Time Nick Message 22:18 bag hmm looks like kyle was pushing today :) 21:57 * cait waves 21:37 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 21:37 rangi @later tell drojf I cant delete the user, because they have made changes on bugs 19:00 oleonard bye #koha, happy weekend 18:58 oleonard I thought we had a bug report for removing Mozilla Persona support but I can't find it 18:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5670 - DBRev 16.06.00.036 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2578d8cd968fe00d5e413ce7911f7e14e77cf951> / Bug 5670: Add a confirmation message on delete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5dc05c0d0f3500ff385767e1242b8c1d96b5384> / Bug 5670: Use the fa icon for the save button <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d05c8e92f895919f8f718 18:30 oleonard ashimema: I like the idea of the template plugin because we embed a lot of JS right in the template when our JS depends on template variables 18:25 ashimema https://metacpan.org/pod/Mojolicious::Plugin::AssetPack 18:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17425 [QA Followup] - Remove superfluous tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e99e05e8d75ba26ebb556746ea8dd4e38b85aa96> 18:13 oleonard Want: https://metacpan.org/pod/Template::Plugin::Filter::Minify::JavaScript 17:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17425: Add the Object::MethodNotCoveredByTests exception <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23c86c3769407a2387011ac82ee97685f1841d48> / Bug 17425: Add Try::Tiny dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=60fc63ef4dd14fc6068ae5cfc202e5c200f0575b> / Bug 17425: Make Koha::Object raise exceptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7 17:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16965: Allow Koha::Objects->result_class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c9a2ee9da5618764067c3e896a3af5553bf7875> / Bug 16965: [Follow-up] Adjust get_object_class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8df96082ec84097aac24e2128e6b8d1a34c463e> / Bug 16965: search_related returns an instanciated Koha::Objects-based object <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p 17:23 paul_p hi tcohen. back to Argentina/home without any trouble ? 17:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17445: Move the params check after the authentication check <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ebffcdb106d46c9f8b1877a086407ecfb1cbae1> / Bug 17445: Just some refactoring <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=038ad70fb31b787509c30c6499f3fab77356005a> / Bug 17445: Add 'malformed query' error response <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h 17:16 tcohen hi paul_p 17:16 meliss paul_p lunch was very good. Yes, almost dinner time for you 17:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16907: Make sure the log will be written only if the patron has been deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9af2e9731ef17af3d35090e5bae3af65a8d08c4> / Bug 16907: Koha::Patrons - Move HandleDelBorrower to ->delete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4a923bdf7eacce4de1efd4c5bdd2fe4010ad4b1> / Bug 16907: Koha::Patrons - Move DelMember to ->delete <http://git. 16:42 paul_p meliss_lunch good lunch ! almost dinner time for me :D 16:40 huginn paul_p: magnuse was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: * magnuse hopes bug 17427 shows up in a stable release soon 16:40 paul_p @seen magnuse 16:40 paul_p !seen magnuse 16:37 LibraryClaire hi paul_p :) 16:36 paul_p (hello #koha) 16:36 paul_p magnuse : are you here ? 16:34 oleonard What is the guideline for when one can mark something as closed/fixed? Is it reserved for release maintainers? 16:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17318: Allow chosing fixed normalization routines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fb994257ecf74f65b0951564341561dd40df3a5> / Bug 17318: Make C4::Matcher::_get_match_keys handle 'norms' param <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4579f1ad906b28a78c0ef7a1669b0a08138745d1> / Bug 17318: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0 16:16 LibraryClaire bye AndrewIsh! 16:16 tcohen it does the job 16:15 tcohen ashimema: you can find this line - $env->{REMOTE_ADDR} = $ip; 16:11 tcohen ashimema: http://search.cpan.org/~miyagawa/Plack-Middleware-ReverseProxy-0.15/lib/Plack/Middleware/ReverseProxy.pm 16:10 AndrewIsh the weekend has arrived, bye #koha! 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table 16:05 ashimema bug 17196 16:05 ashimema biblioitems.marcxml ;) 16:05 ashimema oh.. i'm thinking about the wrong bug 16:04 tcohen ashimema: it is pushed AFAICT 16:03 * ashimema hopes his comments didn't stall that one 16:03 ashimema :D 16:02 tcohen farewell, biblioitems.marc 16:00 reiveune bye 15:51 ashimema :) 15:51 tcohen so Kyla can push it :-D 15:51 tcohen I'll review it today 15:51 tcohen ok 15:50 ashimema I've added the alteration to the test in a followup.. would apreciate your final thoughts :) 15:50 ashimema so.. no need to package a new json-validator or swagger2.. 15:50 ashimema I was wrong :D Swagger is ok, i was just testing the wrong thing :S 15:49 ashimema tcohen.. cities fixed :) 15:42 tcohen alrigth 15:42 oleonard tcohen: I would like to design a search by keyword which excludes results with a specific item type 15:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17251: Koha::AuthorisedValues - Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesMapping <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8323db303dd6d1c486574e7750ad58df2c25c744> / Bug 17250: Do not retrieve marc subfield structure when the authorised value is not... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b6f129ac32e5ea3a2d1357d8e19ba3e24519757> / Bug 17250 - Koha::AuthorisedValues - Remove GetA 15:41 tcohen oleonard: what are you trying to do, specifically? 15:39 oleonard tcohen: Advanced search with "more options" gives the option of using "not" for keyword, title, etc, but not for ccode or itemtype 15:38 * LibraryClaire waves 15:36 tcohen that's what advanced search does 15:35 tcohen oleonard: yes 15:33 oleonard Is it possible to seach the OPAC and exclude a certain collection code or itemtype in your query? 15:20 huginn ashimema: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 15:20 ashimema huginn soup 15:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17249: GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField - rm GetAuthValCodeFromField <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15506a7569145cf566aab28e1b7639be56058a26> / Bug 17249: Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c913a3482bcca547d371931261a8831f2cd4ecaf> / Bug 17249: Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField - (follow-up) inventory <http://gi 15:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17411: Remove 3 other occurrences of exit 1 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1a8ca13028411384847615fbdeeaaedd9703382> / Bug 17411 - Change exit 1 to exit 0 in acqui/basket.pl to prevent Internal Server... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01636dca2f1bd132fcc8d16f7a91fa4a45a90668> / Bug 16687 - Translatability: Fix issues in Administration preferences <http: 14:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16245: [QA Follow-up] Replace typeofrecord2 by biblevel <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=556a4870d6beced7df52dbbc2ad472769e79e148> / Bug 16245: RIS export file type incorrect <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a74329af022eeb857e1f936c13274c0e41497472> / Bug 17368: Update KitchenSinkPlugin.kpz <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f 14:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10455 - DBRev 16.06.00.034 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35101c91279849ee2df0c4d5bc1c6529feaddf0c> / Bug 10455 (QA Followup) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47b6f454abb45b13a6f405d0517d8f26512a1c71> / Bug 10455: Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5de488038d29964f6bd5a29b24e934a3af7c73de> / Bug 10455: Remove MARC 14:46 oleonard Oh I see, the UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin *must* have a space after the colon. That seems very picky (and not obvious from the description) 14:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17426: Do not set AutoCommit in tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ede157e9c09e08b772aaaaacd1a7eb64a2ecc9f6> / Bug 17405 Edit record uses Default framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f060709df0ed07c0ff3dbc20404fa5b3b2aa8651> 14:32 LibraryClaire see ya laters #koha 14:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17393: Fix non-Latin chars handling in self reg <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35de8aa1ef07b04cfc7c977f7168cd36b40d7941> 14:27 oleonard Is the UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin system preference not working? Doesn't look like it is to me. 14:22 * ashimema thinks he's got too into the world of REST and having clientside and serverside apps developed independently 14:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17477: Duplicating a subfield yields an empty subfield tag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbe75e66ccb93a6a4d973e3066ca1ebad169a5b6> / Bug 10337: (followup) Upper case MARC flavour <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=31cb200e0d97106f6e2a009b4cbbd0a295bbaaf5> / Bug 10337: (QA followup) Allow choosing MARC flavour <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g 14:17 * ashimema sees no upsides to server-side session storage, except when you have specific need to have state on the server ;) 14:14 Joubu tcohen: do you remember why WWW::CSRF and Sereal are not packaged? 14:13 AndrewIsh oleonard: oooooh! that's exactly the sort of thing i was looking for! thanks :) trying to disassemble existing markup (with all the TT conditionals) to figure out the YUI grid structure was proving somewhat tedious 14:11 oleonard AndrewIsh: You only need to know about the YUI grid. https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns#Page_layouts 14:06 * eythian sees no upsides to client-side session storage, expect when you have a specific need to keep the server as stateless as possible. 14:05 AndrewIsh eythian: you were *so* right... 14:05 * ashimema should really look into our sessions system in koha.. remind myself exactly what we need such sessions for.. I'm sure there's 'a better way' ;) 14:05 eythian AndrewIsh: told you so 14:05 * AndrewIsh immediately goes cross-eyed reading the YUI docs and decides a cup of tea is in order... 14:04 ashimema (we don't do search history or the likes in those apps) 14:04 ashimema in fact.. I don't use cookies at all in my other project.. we use jwt bearer tokens and are in general stateless 14:03 eythian because they have to go back, forth, back, forth, every request. 14:03 eythian Also, they take up network space unnecessarily. 14:03 eythian yes, that's good. 14:03 * ashimema relies happily on signed hmac cookies 14:03 eythian there have been popular systems where, well, guess what happened when someone set a cookie "admin=1" 14:02 eythian but there's also safety concerns 14:02 eythian probably not a lot :) 14:02 ashimema what session data do we actually need.. I'm trying to remember what we do with our sessions ;) 14:02 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies 14:02 eythian wahanui: cookies 14:01 eythian just a token that accesses the local session storage. 14:01 Joubu cookies are not good with beers 14:01 eythian cookies are fine, but they're not the place to cram all session data 14:01 * ashimema wonders what eythian find so offensive about cookies? 14:00 eythian you don't want to do that 14:00 eythian no you don't 14:00 * AndrewIsh realises he somehow has never worked with YUI and suddenly realises he needs to, off to read the docs... 13:59 LibraryClaire cool! :D 13:59 eythian if you want to load all session data into a cookie, well, I won't talk to you any more :P 13:59 AndrewIsh LibraryClaire: it's awesome, makes CSS considerably less of a nightmare to create / maintain :) 13:59 eythian ashimema: what would you have other than server side session storage? 13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17427 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace CGI::Session with Data::Session 13:57 * ashimema reads mojolicious::sessions for inspiration to session management and how it relates to bug 17427 13:57 * LibraryClaire wants to learn about Sass 13:57 * ashimema for a moment wonders why we have serverside session storage at all 13:55 AndrewIsh oleonard: indeed, Sass does seem to be in favour, that is, until another CSS preprocessor comes along 13:54 oleonard Yeah LESS doesn't appear to have a future 13:54 AndrewIsh s/LESS/Sass/ 13:53 AndrewIsh oleonard: a conversion to LESS is on my to-do list too... 13:53 AndrewIsh oleonard: only that i wish i'd adopted it at the start of the project rather than thinking about it 18 months in, so my css bears an uncanny resemblance to staff-global.css, only slightly less structure... 13:52 oleonard AndrewIsh: I'd be interested to hear if you have opinions about it based on your non-Koha work 13:52 AndrewIsh oleonard: sounds like a good plan :) 13:51 AndrewIsh tcohen: indeed, i'm finding that's the case for most things i'm asking, he really is a fount of all knowledge 13:51 oleonard AndrewIsh: I plan to convert staff-global.css to Sass, and that would be a good time to re-think how to manage our CSS in a more modular way if it makes sense for us to do so 13:50 tcohen the best advise is that you ask oleonard :-P 13:50 AndrewIsh thanks both 13:50 AndrewIsh ok, sounds good. i'll keep all my styles together and keep their scope suitably small :) 13:49 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.1°C (3:48 PM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 13:49 eythian @wunder ams 13:49 tcohen even though there is no structure 13:49 tcohen well, we try to put things together 13:49 oleonard Correct 13:48 AndrewIsh i guess it's just a case of appending new style definitions to the end? there doesn't appear to be any particular structure to that file 13:48 tcohen he, ok 13:48 tcohen koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css 13:47 ashimema lol 13:47 AndrewIsh tcohen: aha! that looks promising, despite finding the directory in which it lives, i somehow missed that particular file... 13:46 tcohen staff-global.css maybe? 13:46 AndrewIsh quick question that i couldn't find the answer to on the wiki. when creating a template for the admin interface, where would new css styles be added? 13:44 tcohen magnuse: have you tested it? 13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17427 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace CGI::Session with Data::Session 13:42 * magnuse hopes bug 17427 shows up in a stable release soon 13:42 rsantellan one little question, are the koha jenkin project setup available somewhere? 13:25 tcohen hi jenkins_koha 12:51 tcohen hehehe 12:50 wahanui hi oleopard 12:50 AndrewIsh hi oleonard 12:47 ashimema love that meme eythian 12:44 tcohen cait: ? 12:43 oleonard Someone please ban digitalmarketing.xperts12@gmail.com from Bugzilla >:( 12:40 LibraryClaire :D 12:38 wahanui hi oleopard 12:38 tcohen hi oleonard 12:37 LibraryClaire hallo oleonard 12:37 oleonard Hi all 12:34 drojf later #koha 12:34 AndrewIsh hola tcohen 12:33 AndrewIsh eythian: aha, *that's* what it is ;-) 12:33 tcohen hola rsantellan 12:32 rsantellan good morning #koha 12:31 tcohen =D 12:31 LibraryClaire hola tcohen 12:30 tcohen hola #koha 11:42 eythian http://www.robbomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/tasks.gif <-- AndrewIsh, it's because you're working as a team. 11:37 * AndrewIsh waves back at cait 11:17 * cait waves 11:04 AndrewIsh drojf: lol 11:03 drojf AndrewIsh: getting done more than i do 10:56 * AndrewIsh thinks his coding buddy isn't pulling his weight today https://goo.gl/photos/KErVK7pBuHLjvfJF7 10:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17476 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Failed test 'Create DateTime with dt_from_string() for 2100-01-01 with TZ in less than 2s' 10:18 drojf bug 17476 fixes the koha nightlies. it's trivial, could someone qa it please? 10:18 drojf Joubu++ 10:09 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 10:09 drojf @later tell rangi can you kick digitalmarketing.xperts12@gmail.com from BZ? 10:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , When automatically deleting expired borrowers, make sure they didn't log in recently 10:09 Joubu see bug 16276, no it's not 10:05 alex_a Does anyone know if the borrowers.updated_on column is visible anywhere in koha ? 09:56 eythian warming up 09:56 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 9.8°C (11:42 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 09:56 eythian @wunder ams 09:55 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 8.1°C (11:50 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 09:55 drojf @wunder txl 09:38 cait i got here safe and dry :) 09:37 * cait doesn't know what she is talking about 09:36 eythian I don't recommend it, you end up in the wrong place. 09:25 LibraryClaire I took the wrong bus the other week 09:20 eythian (and I'd taken the wrong bus by accident.) 09:20 eythian that was summer, too. 09:13 * LibraryClaire makes note not to get a ground floor apartment 09:09 LibraryClaire eek 09:08 eythian https://goo.gl/photos/5u2KzVYWj7bEYgWC8 <-- LibraryClaire, it does that 09:05 LibraryClaire Germany rained on me 09:05 * LibraryClaire is finally dry 08:59 ashimema tuits :) 08:41 atheia (that was the easy one — though both are quite trivial). 08:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Display title 08:41 atheia bug 17472 should be ready for signoff :-) 08:35 smon ah wait, the feed already lists marcxml records, nevermind 08:33 smon aaaand another question: what about the loc's update feed (http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/feed/1)? is there a tool to crawl that and update koha/generate marc authority records? 08:23 atheia Joubu ah, yeah — no they are enhancements. They make sense. I have them on my 'when I get a chance' pile :-) 08:23 smon where should I leave a note? :D 08:23 smon ok 08:22 ashimema I'm sure there's somthink out there to do the rdf -> marc21? conversion already.. but not sure who wold be best to ask 08:21 Joubu are* 08:20 smon ok, so b) I will have to see if the scripts do what I want, but for a) transforming loc's rdf into marc I'd have to write something myself? 08:19 ashimema hehe 08:19 Joubu atheia: sorry I thought the 2 bugs were regressions, but they and enh indeed, feel free to ignore them! 08:17 ashimema cait uses them regularly for their union catalogue stuff I believe ;) 08:16 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 08:16 eythian @later tell marcelr in case you need help with the language, https://twitter.com/nuttyxander/status/789242044610936832 08:16 mtj ashimema: hmm, i dont think ive used those scripts via cli, thanks 08:15 smon that worked quite well so far 08:15 smon no, i already produced my own authority files and uploaded them to koha 08:15 ashimema mtj, you realise you can use the stage scripts from the commmand line too right ;) 08:15 smon i see 08:15 ashimema it was supposed to indicate that I couldn't remember if it handled authorities as well as biblio's 08:14 mtj smon, they basically do the same thing - commandline script is more 'reliable' (ive found) 08:14 ashimema the two importers 'should' match each other for functionality.. but they do sometimes fall out of sync 08:14 smon i was just wondering what ashimema's `might` in quotations was supposed to indicate :D 08:14 ashimema cait knows about stage-marc-import 08:14 mtj np ashimema :) 08:13 smon i am thinking about using that or stage-marc-import.pl 08:13 smon ok thx mtj 08:13 ashimema it's been ages sin'ce i've looked at those scripts ;) 08:13 mtj ^..ive used that script for authority import, it works well :0) 08:13 ashimema thanks mtj 08:12 mtj smon: perl ./bulkmarcimport.pl -a -m ISO2709 -file ./authorities.mrc 08:09 smon are there tools for rdf->marc? 08:09 atheia Definitely, mythical tuit payment would be a lovely company perk ^^ 08:09 smon it only might? 08:09 ashimema indeed Joubu :) 08:09 ashimema smon^ 08:09 ashimema bulkmarcimport.pm 'might' do it if you can get the loc authorities in a mass marc file 08:08 Joubu ashimema: it's more or less what I try to do every day ;) 08:08 ashimema I'm not sure of the answer to your question.. 08:08 ashimema continueing smon 08:07 smon sorry, i am somewhat confused: are you talking about my question or continuing a conversation from before I joined the chat? :D 08:07 ashimema round tuits is interchangable 08:07 ashimema it's use in the context of "I've love to, but I don't have enough tuits right now" 08:06 * AndrewIsh is intrigued by the concept of "mythical payment" 08:06 ashimema I'd like to arrange 'tuits' to be dished out within the company.. i.e alloted time for us devs to just do what we think needs doing to better koha without it being driven by the boss or the client ;) (QA, Signoff, Minor Enhancements like the above) 08:05 ashimema :) 08:05 ashimema kind of a 'mythical payment' for work you 'might never get around to' 08:05 atheia It will be in my circles now too :D 08:04 ashimema it's fairly common in oss circles I've lurked in in the paste 08:04 atheia nope 08:04 atheia I like 08:04 ashimema you never heard that before atheia? 08:04 ashimema or http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tuit perhaps is a better explanation ;) 08:04 atheia Ooh, that's a fun word. 08:03 ashimema tuits https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round_tuit 08:03 atheia sure… tuits? 08:02 ashimema OSS = open source software 08:02 ashimema that should be /open time oss tuits/ really.. i.e unsponsored work time 08:02 * atheia goes off to find out what or who OSS Tuits is. 08:02 * ashimema hasn't yet got round to scheduling OSS Tuits for AndrewIsh and atheia yet.. but likes the idea of those two getting done at some point too 07:58 smon hi! how would I bulkimport loc authority data? i am new to ILSs: is there already some script/program that can map loc's rdf to marc? 07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Display title 07:55 magnuse bug 17472 07:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17471 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Date of last checkout 07:54 magnuse bug 17471 07:54 magnuse archer121: people here are mostly developers, not necessarily the ones who set the price. my recommendation would be to write up what you want in an email, send it to the list and ask for prices/offers. that will reach more people and give some time to think about it 07:54 atheia Joubu, yeah, both sound sensible and eminently doable. 07:52 * atheia waves 07:52 atheia Joubu, sure will do. 07:52 drojf hi atheia 07:52 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 07:52 atheia Good morning! 07:52 drojf i don't think it is possible to answer that. i'd say you should pay joubu to write the spec to get an estimate how much the feature would cost :) 07:48 archer121 ashimema: I need to ask my boss. What she will be asking first is how much it will cost. Can I know how much (atleast max amount), so that I can propose this to my boss? How much do developers usually charge for such things? 07:47 Joubu atheia: hi! Would you like to take a look at 17471 and 17472 please? 07:47 Joubu haaa atheia :) 07:45 Joubu or ask the developer to write the spec and validate it :p 07:42 ashimema but you need to write a good spec explaining exactly what it is you want.. for any developer to stand a chance getting it right to your specifications ;) 07:41 * ashimema hints at Joubu being a good contractor for this sort of thing ;) 07:41 Joubu archer121: whoever you ask, make sure the code will be submitted on bugzilla 07:39 Joubu it depends on the number of hours it needs and who are you going to ask to implement it I guess :) 07:39 archer121 I just need the approximate figure so that I can talk with my superiors 07:38 Joubu heh 07:37 archer121 much* 07:37 archer121 If I sponsor some developer, how muck would it cost? 07:36 Joubu there* 07:35 Joubu But it would be the first behavior specific for batch checkouts, so I guess they are some hidden problematics 07:35 Joubu I don't think so 07:35 Joubu It depends 07:34 archer121 Joubu: Is it difficult to implement? 07:34 archer121 forced checkout will bypass all limits. All I want is the staff be allowed to renew books to the patron when he tries to checkout the book (that is already in his account) 07:33 Joubu We do not have specific behavior for batch checkout so far 07:33 Joubu no 07:32 archer121 Hi, we use the batch checkout facility to issue books to the patrons. But through this feature, it is not possible to renew the books. I know that the "forced_checkout" permission will do the job, but is there a permission that will just allow renewals only from batch checkout? 07:29 magnuse woohoo! 07:29 AndrewIsh magnuse: i think it does! 07:28 magnuse does that mean i can take the rest of the week off? 07:28 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 07:28 magnuse @wunder boo 07:16 * AndrewIsh peeks outside, shivers and returns to the warmth of the office 07:15 LibraryClaire hi ashimema 07:15 AndrewIsh hi ashimema 07:13 AndrewIsh wunder, you wrong! it's 2.5C 07:13 huginn AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, United Kingdom, United Kingdom is 4.3°C (8:06 AM BST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). 07:13 ashimema mornin' #koha 07:13 AndrewIsh @wunder machynlleth 07:13 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.9°C (8:13 AM BST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 07:13 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 07:13 AndrewIsh hi drojf 07:13 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 4.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). 07:13 liw @wunder helsinki 07:09 drojf hi eythian and AndrewIsh 07:08 AndrewIsh hi LibraryClaire 07:05 LibraryClaire hi AndrewIsh 06:55 eythian Chilly 06:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 4.8°C (8:54 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 06:55 eythian @wunder ams 06:53 reiveune hello 06:53 AndrewIsh g'morn all 06:52 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:52 magnuse @wunder bodø, norway 06:52 alex_a :-) 06:51 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:51 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:51 magnuse :-O 06:51 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:51 magnuse @wunder boo 06:46 * LibraryClaire thinks 06:45 LibraryClaire ok 06:45 Joubu yes, that's it 06:45 LibraryClaire the first pref doesn't change current functionality unless turned off - am I understanding correctly? 06:44 Joubu So maybe I should invert everything 06:44 Joubu no the first pref is on by default 06:44 LibraryClaire ok 06:44 LibraryClaire the first pref excludes people, yes? 06:44 Joubu OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup 06:43 LibraryClaire what's the first pref called? 06:43 Joubu that would work if the first pref did the contrary 06:43 * LibraryClaire searches for brain 06:43 LibraryClaire brrrrr 06:43 Joubu the name sounds wrong in that case 06:43 Joubu so it's an exception for something true 06:42 Joubu It's but it's "if available" not "not if available" 06:42 * cait grabs the umbrella and heads out 06:42 drojf a nice acronym for holdsifavailableatpickup. HIAAP :P 06:42 cait i like exceptions 06:41 LibraryClaire it's still relatively long 06:41 LibraryClaire OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickupExceptions ? 06:41 LibraryClaire hehe 06:41 LibraryClaire hello 06:38 Joubu cait, LibraryClaire maybe? 06:37 dcook hehe 06:35 Joubu OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickupUnlessForCategories sounds... a bit ... too long... isn't? 06:34 Joubu I need a pref to list the patron categories which won't be affected by the behavior of the other pref is it's switched off 06:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17453 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Inter-site holds improvement 06:34 Joubu I am stuck with a pref name... cf bug 17453 06:30 alex_a salut LibraryClaire 06:30 LibraryClaire hi alex_a 06:29 wahanui que tal, alex_a 06:29 alex_a bonjour 06:29 dcook Oooh. I've been hoping someone would fix the server to use UTC as per the spec.. 06:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15108 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , OAI-PMH provider improvements 06:28 Joubu dcook: bug 15108 06:27 dcook And learning the hard-way the joys of test-driven design. I wish I'd written the tests from the start rather than after.. 06:27 drojf and hi Joubu. thanks for the key, i'll try to add it somewhen this weekend 06:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Patch doesn't apply , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 06:27 dcook Joubu: Cool. I figure people are going to be asking for lots of tests with bug 10662 so I'm trying to provide as many as possible 06:27 dcook heya drojf :) 06:27 drojf hi dcook! 06:26 Joubu iirc someone asks on a bug to get test for it, but not sure we got them 06:26 dcook I'll keep it in mind, and see what I come up with :) 06:26 Joubu I don't think we have tests already 06:26 dcook In fact, I suppose those all could be tested together? 06:26 dcook But it could be used for the Koha::OAI modules as well.. 06:26 dcook For my purpose, I'm using it to mock a OAI server, so my OAI client can be tested 06:26 dcook I suppose so 06:26 dcook I wonder if having a mock server would be helpful to people.. 06:25 dcook Agreed :) 06:25 Joubu but we need to centralise some stuffs 06:25 Joubu yes we have not put enough code yet in lib 06:24 dcook I've been using Test::TCP and Net::Server::HTTP within individual tests, but it would probably be nicer to have a module shared among tests for it.. 06:24 dcook Joubu: I was thinking of adding a module for mocking servers... 06:23 dcook Joubu: Nothing at all. I just didn't realize it existed until just the other day, and remembered again today :) 06:23 * LibraryClaire recommends an umbrella 06:23 cait but it's raining! 06:23 * cait guesses she should hurry up to join LibraryClaire at work 06:23 fridolin hie there 06:21 * LibraryClaire goes on a coffee hunt 06:20 LibraryClaire I will be getting coffee as soon as the machine has finished making it! 06:20 * drojf wants tea. or coffee. omg decisions before first tea or coffee 06:17 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 06:17 Joubu @later tell dcook what's wrong with t/lib? 06:17 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 7.3°C (8:15 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 06:17 drojf @wunder txl 06:17 cait lol 06:17 drojf wtf 06:17 drojf Wensin ist eine Gemeinde am Ufer des Wardersees im Kreis Segeberg in Schleswig-Holstein 06:16 cait about the same 06:16 drojf stop giving me wensin, whatever that is 06:16 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Segeberger Straße, Wensin, Germany is 7.5°C (8:12 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:16 LibraryClaire hi drojf :) 06:16 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 06:16 cait ;( 06:16 LibraryClaire and my bag broke on my way in 06:15 LibraryClaire completely soaked through 06:15 drojf hi cait and LibraryClaire 06:15 cait brr 06:15 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 8.4°C (8:14 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 06:15 LibraryClaire @wunder Konstanz 06:15 LibraryClaire morning #koha 06:12 * cait waves 06:11 drojf morning #koha 05:35 magnuse \o/ 05:33 * cait waves 05:32 * magnuse waves 04:21 dcook Or is that just too much work today.. 04:16 dcook Cool, I'm going to make a t::lib::MockServer, or something 04:15 dcook t/lib... 04:14 dcook t::lib::Mocks? 04:14 dcook I seem to recall there being test builder scripts.. 02:09 dcook :D* 02:09 dcook "D 02:08 wizzyrea haha 02:08 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 02:08 dcook @later tell wizzyrea I may have popped on to IRC just to say that... 02:08 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 02:08 dcook @later tell wizzyrea this made me think of you for some reason http://imgur.com/gallery/6z6Wp 01:55 mtj apache+shib+mod_shib+mod_proxy = ezproxy 01:48 mtj ^ ..i think that would work as an ezproxy substitue, even? 01:47 mtj apache and shib is probably the best option 01:39 mtj ..but afaik, its trivial to fake a referer... so perhaps a bad idea? :'( 01:36 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded. 01:36 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded. 01:36 huginn mtj: The operation succeeded. 01:36 mtj @later tell CrispyBran: http://webauth.stanford.edu/auth.html 01:36 mtj @later tell CrispyBran: https://perishablepress.com/eight-ways-to-blacklist-with-apaches-mod_rewrite/ 01:36 mtj @later tell CrispyBran: try apache + mod_webauth or mod_rewrite modules 01:33 mtj http://webauth.stanford.edu/auth.html 01:32 mtj http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/auth.html 01:31 mtj oops, typo.. sorry to bother chris :) 01:30 mtj rangi: https://perishablepress.com/eight-ways-to-blacklist-with-apaches-mod_rewrite/ 01:30 mtj ..was going to suggest apache + mod_webauth or mod_rewrite modules 01:28 mtj ahh, i see crispy is no longer online 01:27 mtj hi #koha