Time  Nick       Message
20:53 JesseM     night magnuse
20:48 magnuse    night
19:47 rangi      morning
17:51 tcohen     need to test something
17:51 tcohen     anyone has kohadevbox open now?
16:27 drojf      bye #koha
16:27 drojf      tcohen: sorry got to go. can you try again and @later or email me if it worked? i'll check the logs later if it does not
16:16 tcohen     can you paste the logs somewhere?
16:16 tcohen     still fails
16:16 tcohen     apt update
16:15 tcohen     yes
16:14 drojf      tcohen: can you open https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/Packages in a browser?
16:12 tcohen     drojf: https://snag.gy/B9WK0v.jpg
15:55 * oleonard snarks a snarky snark to himself
15:40 reiveune   bye
15:33 drojf      else you might be missing the koha-nightly part in the deb url? https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly. i managed to miss that first when i tried
15:32 drojf      does it work for you too now?
15:32 tcohen     oh
15:32 drojf      tcohen: works for me
15:28 bag        Are ya ready to party like pirates?
15:28 bag        http://talklikeapirate.com/wordpress/
15:21 tcohen     drojf: let me know if there's anything I can help with
15:21 drojf      tcohen: thanks. not really time to look into this atm. i'll reboot the server and see if that helps for now
15:16 oleonard   wahanui is sassy today
15:14 tcohen     https://snag.gy/Mkhtrs.jpg
15:14 wahanui    everywhere is a suburb
15:14 drojf      or everywhere?
15:14 wahanui    like is, like, hard to say, could adapt to yes, but doesn't feel intuitive
15:14 drojf      like where?
15:14 drojf      oh
15:14 tcohen     on your nightly
15:14 tcohen     i got some 404
15:13 eythian    he was talking about you, not to you.
15:13 tcohen     hi, yes
15:13 drojf      you rang?
15:13 drojf      hi tcohen
15:10 huginn     tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 20 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <drojf> i gues that did not work
15:10 tcohen     @seen drojf
14:24 * oleonard packs the Voight-Kampff machine
14:18 ashimema   lol
14:15 * tcohen   is not sure the guy he met in REno was actually oleonard
13:54 ashimema   it does not compute
13:44 eythian    ha! foiled!
13:44 eythian    ashimema: try to deny it, I bet you can't as no one has before, so you have no chain entries to do so with!
13:38 ashimema   moving on
13:37 * ashimema is slightly disturbed that he was just called a mathematical construct
13:36 oleonard   that must be why I thought I saw ashimema playing a dead body on an episode of Law & Order: SVU.
13:36 eythian    like most people on IRC, he's really just a markov chain
13:35 oleonard   the person I met who claimed to have been ashimema could have been an actor hired on Cragslist by the ashimema chatbot AI
13:35 ashimema   it makes perfect sense now
13:35 ashimema   I wondered what was wrong with me all this time..
13:35 ashimema   he is?
13:34 eythian    but ashimema is a chatbot.
13:34 ashimema   lol
13:34 oleonard   I don't have to prove to ashimema that I'm not a chatbot, we've met in person. Still have to convince magnuse though.
13:32 * ashimema looks forward to seeing everyone again.. and remembering how koha fits together :p
13:32 * ashimema finally booked his train and hotel for hackfest :)
12:48 cait1      hi JesseM :)
12:48 JesseM     :D
12:48 JesseM     cait1
12:48 JesseM     Hi cait
12:48 * cait1    waves
12:47 * oleonard crosses his fingers for luck
12:46 paul_p     tcohen = oleonard arrives on sunday 10:10AM
12:46 paul_p     tcohen = could you mail me & claire your arrival & departure information ? (to organize the pick-up, going to the flat,...)
12:45 tcohen     hi paul_p !
12:45 paul_p     tcohen = 'morning
12:43 tcohen     mornin!
12:40 rsantellan there is no way to do it globally?
12:39 huginn     04Bug 16329: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Koha::Logger->sql(). Unified interface to log SQL statements OR use DBIx::Log4perl
12:39 rsantellan I have seen the https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16329
12:38 rsantellan Hi, good morning. Can anybody knows a way to show on the log all the sql runned?
11:58 oleonard   Nice. The closest we get to a staff retreat is retreating to a meeting room for a day.
11:56 khall      Denver, ByWater staff retreat
11:55 oleonard   Where you off to khall ?
11:54 khall      first time I make it to the airport with plenty of time to spare and my flght has been delayed : \
11:43 cait1      hi oleonard :)
11:43 oleonard   Hi all
11:42 cait1      I think it would be good to have it before release ideally
11:42 cait1      deleting authorised value categories you no longer need :)
11:41 cait1      Joubu: TODO is to be done soon?
10:06 cait1      as we have no sample values for STACK and noone seems to know what it's for
10:05 cait1      i was just noting that it doesn't make a lot of sense
10:05 cait1      it's not a bad thing or a blocker
10:05 cait1      it just looks differnt than before
10:05 cait1      the new pull down thing
10:02 Joubu      if the field is mapped with a AV and there are no AV, what happens?
10:02 Joubu      I don't understand why the behavior is different in master actually
10:01 Joubu      no idea...
10:00 cait1      and i wondered if we should just kill it
10:00 cait1      which irritated me a bit
10:00 cait1      so you get a list with 'no match found' or something
10:00 cait1      it just has no values by default
10:00 cait1      ah
09:59 Joubu      when editing items
09:59 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17216 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Add a new table to store authorized value categories
09:59 Joubu      cait1: bug 17216: what's the issue with STACK?
09:59 cait1      failed on that... but some things are gone
09:59 cait1      i tried hard to get a 5 in front
09:59 Joubu      cait1: hi! Thanks for your QA work this week-end :)
09:59 cait1      sorry for the double up - i think the other laptop is connected too
09:58 cait1      yep
09:58 Joubu      cait1: around?
09:43 cait1      then change it :)
09:43 ashimema   there's a bunch of people out there I'd like to meet who tend to attend a few of these conferences..  I've never managed to attend one myself yet :(
09:42 ashimema   I like the idea
09:42 ashimema   :)
09:30 eythian    In case you feel like visiting me, here's an excuse: "YAPC::EU in Amsterdam will take place from 8 till 11 August 2017. As venue we have contracted B.Amsterdam. We expect 350 up to 500 participants, and already have affirmation of some eminent speakers!"
09:16 ashimema   lol
09:16 eythian    I'm fine. Back to work after having some holiday time, so it's hard to be much better than just "fine" :)
09:16 ashimema   morning cait1
09:16 * cait1    waves
09:16 ashimema   how are you eythian?
09:15 ashimema   hehe
09:15 eythian    I was hoping maybe it'd reply to itself
09:15 huginn     eythian: ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 minute and 13 seconds ago: <ashimema> @seen tcohen
09:15 eythian    @seen ashimema
09:14 huginn     ashimema: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi nengard
09:14 ashimema   @seen tcohen
08:49 eythian    hi drojf, cait1
08:49 drojf      i gues that did not work
08:49 drojf      i wrote you a while ago
08:49 drojf      hi cait
08:49 * cait1    waves
07:36 drojf      hi gaetan_B
07:35 wahanui    salut, gaetan_B
07:35 gaetan_B   hello
07:33 drojf      dinner tonight with joann, then i have to let her go. more nz people should come to berlin, they are all so nice
07:32 huginn     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:32 drojf      @wunder berlin, germany
07:32 drojf      hi eythian
07:31 huginn     eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.4°C (9:27 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:31 eythian    @wunder ams
07:30 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 18.7°C (9:25 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:30 magnuse    @wunder marseille
07:30 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 19, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:30 magnuse    @wunder boo
07:30 eythian    dcook: you can get all manner of things like that, it wouldn't surprise me if that was one of them.
07:30 magnuse    \o/
07:29 drojf      only 3 weeks left until marseille :O
07:29 drojf      hei magnuse
07:28 magnuse    moin drojf
07:28 drojf      morning #koha
07:24 * dcook    heads off for dinner
07:20 dcook      eythian: Is gouda with cumin actually a thing in Amsterdam, or is that just for tourists? :p
07:20 dcook      hey eythian
07:11 wahanui    bidet, eythian
07:11 eythian    hi
06:51 fridolin   hie
06:46 reiveune   hello
06:43 magnuse    dcook: nice!
06:42 dcook      magnuse: That libris rdf server managed to take down my entire browser :p
06:38 alex_a     bonjour
06:19 magnuse    hehe
06:19 dcook      sharp little demon teeth...
06:18 * dcook    waves with one hand while his child devours his other
06:18 * magnuse  waves
06:07 dcook      The Europeans should be here any moment!
06:07 dcook      tfw you look at the clock and see it's already after 4pm :p
02:58 mtompset   Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha dcook rangi wizzyrea
01:54 mtompset   2016-6 = 2010. I was right about pre-2012. :)
01:51 dcook      ?
01:51 mtompset   Bingo. :)
01:50 huginn     mtompset: nelsonf was last seen in #koha 6 years, 22 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <nelsonf> thanks chris, I'll look into virtualbox.  hope my little laptop can handle it :-)
01:50 mtompset   @seen nelsonf
01:50 mtompset   That must be a pre-2012 quote.
01:50 mtompset   dashboard quote: < nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough...
01:50 mtompset   Who is nelsonf?
01:49 dcook      It seems that would be rather inefficient though, although yeah... I should remember the world doesn't work on efficiency
01:48 mtompset   You would be surprised. It's in the land of LiveDVDs.
01:48 dcook      Although nothing should surprise me anymore
01:48 dcook      mtompset: No, but I imagine that company don't use LiveDVDs?
01:48 mtompset   dcook: LiveDVD users aren't usually forward thinking types.
01:47 dcook      Barbara Walters	0	5
01:47 dcook      Also from the dashboard:
01:44 dcook      You can say that again
01:44 rangi      libraries don't deal in sane
01:43 dcook      ' ..."Koha\'s initial FRBR implementation was sane."' (random quote from the dashboard)
01:40 dcook      They do warn that the customization won't be available for the next version, so that would certainly deter forward thinking people I imagine
01:22 mtompset   You would be surprised how many people don't read fine print.
01:07 wahanui    really is more trouble than she's worth.
01:07 BobB       really?
01:07 BobB       yeah, scummy, but not long term viable either - except people sign up for 10 years!
01:06 BobB       ooh I did miss that bit
01:05 mtompset   It's really scummy.
01:05 mtompset   BobB: You didn't read the agreement did you? They custom code off Koha, and then don't contribute the patches, which means they keep charging people to reimplement their changes over and over and over when a version change breaks their custom code.
00:52 BobB       rangi, wizzyrea, mtompset that crowd won't be around long; they don't have a viable business model
00:20 mtompset   Congrats on bumping me down to 5th on the 2016 signoff rankings, rangi.
00:20 wizzyrea   ^ what he said
00:13 rangi      yup
00:13 mtompset   Yes, LiveDVD country. *cringe*
00:12 rangi      in the country where this is causing problems
00:12 rangi      most people don't even know that listing (whole koha website) even exist
00:12 mtompset   Right... push the badness to a different location. :(
00:11 rangi      apart from maybe make you feel better
00:11 rangi      and truth be told, it won't change anything
00:11 rangi      so not keen on revisiting
00:10 rangi      yeah that was voted down
00:10 mtompset   Which we actually considered doing at one time.
00:10 rangi      they have a link, they offer koha services, thats all we say to get listed
00:10 rangi      once we start making value judgements, its a massive mess, and the only thing would be remove all
00:08 mtompset   *sigh* Okay.
00:08 rangi      yeah thats not how it works
00:07 mtompset   I request that OpenLX be removed from the support provider list, given that they merely pay lip service and not actually support the community.
00:06 mtompset   http://www.bestbookbuddies.com:8080/register/library_hosting_agreement.pdf
00:06 mtompset   I have a strange request.
00:03 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.