Time Nick Message 04:24 * cait waves 04:25 wizzyrea ~ 04:25 wizzyrea ! 04:25 wizzyrea hi 04:25 cait hi wizzyrea :) 04:27 wizzyrea good morning 04:27 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 04:27 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 04:27 wahanui thanks cait :) 04:33 wizzyrea hehe 04:38 cait wizzyrea: long day? 04:38 wahanui rumour has it long day is over. Now for the long night. Have a great day, #koha 04:39 wizzyrea naw, it's only 16:30 04:39 cait oh 04:40 wizzyrea and it's getting into spring so the sun's even still up \o/ 04:41 cait dark earleer here :) 04:42 wizzyrea yeah, the long slow descent to the dark time ^.^ 05:34 dcook wizzyrea: And our triumphant return to the light! 05:35 * magnuse waves 05:36 dcook hey magnuse :) 05:36 magnuse hey dcook 05:36 dcook @later tell tcohen yeah that does sound interesting 05:36 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 05:36 magnuse september equinox is about a week away, i guess 05:40 dcook :D 05:40 dcook I'm a summer person through and through, despite my Canadian origin 05:40 dcook Not that I mind cold and the winter. Just love me a good summer. 06:07 dcook should be an olympics for coding with a baby in one hand and a keyboard with the other 06:34 alex_a bonjour 06:34 wahanui hey, alex_a 06:58 reiveune hello 07:02 akawa hello! 07:56 drojf morning #koha 07:57 magnuse moin drojf 07:57 drojf hei magnuse 08:01 LibraryClaire morning #koha 08:09 magnuse kia ora LibraryClaire and paul_p 08:10 LibraryClaire hi magnuse, paul_p, drojf :) 08:11 LibraryClaire @wunder London, UK 08:11 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 20.0°C (7:20 AM BST on September 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 08:11 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire 08:11 * LibraryClaire prepares for day 2 of heatwave 08:11 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:11 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 20.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 08:15 magnuse i was gonna say "back to normal", but i guess it's early yet... 08:19 LibraryClaire yeah 08:19 LibraryClaire skies are clear, sun is out, trains are malfunctioning ;) 08:54 drojf eurgh warm 09:06 jransom Hi everyone. 09:07 jransom I am here in Vienna with the IST library staff 09:07 jransom and I have a few questions 09:07 drojf hi jransom, marton, patrick ^^ 09:08 jransom Hi Mirko :) 09:09 jransom so can you update me with elastic search. 09:09 jransom is it now fully operational now? 09:10 drojf jransom: most is implemented, but it needs more testing. if IST has time to test, they should try it. not in production though 09:10 drojf or, i would not try it in production yet. they can, if they are adventurous :) 09:10 jransom also another question about searching. can you limit or extend a search to include/exclude abstracts 09:10 jransom thats what thez said! 09:11 jransom they 09:11 jransom is there a test bed server somewhere which can be used 09:11 drojf we need people that try it so they report bugs 09:11 drojf erm. not sure 09:12 drojf rangi wants to update it to do use newer elasticsearch versions. that is the only thing i am aware of that is planned atm 09:12 drojf but i don't know if someone has a test server with es 09:12 drojf have you checked the demo page on the koha website? 09:12 jransom ok. I will ask at hackfest in marseilles 09:14 drojf i am not sure if abstracts are in the any index. otherwise you may have to adjust zebra to have an index that contains what you want (assuming by abstract you mean a 5xx field) 09:14 drojf 520 or what it is (i did not have coffee yet) 09:15 jransom oh thats funny 09:15 jransom well we have some things to follow up on 09:15 jransom thanks <mirko 09:15 drojf have fun :) 09:18 jransom ok thanks mirko 09:20 magnuse gah, missed joann again! 09:22 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:22 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 23.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on September 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 09:22 drojf it feels like 29 already 09:23 LibraryClaire @wunder London, UK 09:23 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 24.0°C (9:20 AM BST on September 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). 09:23 drojf you win 09:26 drojf today justin bieber, tomorrow joann. all the celebrities come to berlin 09:30 magnuse yay! 09:35 magnuse drojf: and you'll get to see them both? 09:36 drojf magnuse: only justin 09:36 drojf lol 09:36 drojf nope, skipping the biebs 09:36 magnuse ah, good choice 09:36 drojf i wish david hasselhoff would come to berlin again 09:38 LibraryClaire ^ that quote needs saving 09:39 drojf you can. i don't now how it works though. @quote add or something 09:39 drojf @quote random 09:39 huginn drojf: Quote #243: "only when yousend no patches at all you will never break something" (added by cait at 02:37 PM, April 26, 2013) 09:39 drojf @quote help 09:39 huginn drojf: downloading the Perl source 09:39 drojf no manual ^^ 09:40 drojf @help quote 09:40 huginn drojf: Error: There is no command "quote". 09:40 drojf erm. yes. yes there is 09:40 drojf >:( 09:40 drojf @quote drojf 09:40 huginn drojf: downloading the Perl source 09:41 drojf no idea how stuff works in here 09:41 * drojf stops pushing all knobs in panic 09:42 drojf list quote 09:42 drojf hm. works in a private window with huginn 09:42 drojf @list quote 09:42 huginn drojf: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats 09:42 drojf ha 09:47 magnuse but you have to register with the bot somehow, i think? 09:47 magnuse @quote stats 09:47 huginn magnuse: There are 306 quotes in my database. 09:47 magnuse @quote 123 09:47 wahanui @quote get 123 09:47 huginn magnuse: I suck 09:47 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 09:47 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 09:48 magnuse @quote get 306 09:48 huginn magnuse: Quote #306: "<cait> i can not not plan! i am german!" (added by eythian at 06:23 AM, June 30, 2014) 09:48 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 09:48 magnuse it's been a long time since i saw anyone adding a new quote 09:48 drojf @quote add magnuse: it's been a long time since i saw anyone adding a new quote 09:48 huginn drojf: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 09:49 drojf yep 09:49 drojf not in the inner circle of the quote people 09:50 drojf magnuse: i guess all the cool stuff has already been said 09:51 magnuse @quote add <drojf> i wish david hasselhoff would come to berlin again 09:51 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. Quote #321 added. 09:51 magnuse @quote get 321 09:51 huginn magnuse: Quote #321: "<drojf> i wish david hasselhoff would come to berlin again" (added by magnuse at 09:51 AM, September 14, 2016) 09:52 magnuse ok, pm huginn and say "register <name> <password>" + identify <name> <password> 09:52 magnuse et voila! 09:52 drojf magic! 09:52 magnuse yes! 09:53 magnuse @quote add <cait1> log all the things! 09:53 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. Quote #322 added. 09:55 magnuse add a quote is pm huginn and say "register <name> <password>" + "identify <name> <password>" 09:55 magnuse add a quote? 09:55 wahanui i think add a quote is pm huginn and say "register <name> <password>" + "identify <name> <password>" 09:56 drojf magnuse++ # documenting all the things 09:56 magnuse hehe 10:27 vfernandes hi #koha 10:28 vfernandes the members of Koha committee in this page https://koha-community.org/about/koha-project-organization/ are updated? 11:40 oleonard Hi #koha 11:42 drojf hi oleonard 11:42 wahanui hi oleopard 11:55 oleonard Joubu++ # Thanks for the koha-devel update 12:28 magnuse @karma Joubu 12:28 huginn magnuse: Karma for "Joubu" has been increased 353 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 353. 12:28 magnuse yeah Joubu++ 12:28 magnuse @karma Joubu 12:28 huginn magnuse: Karma for "Joubu" has been increased 354 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 354. 12:28 magnuse @karma 12:28 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (391), "Joubu" (354), and "tcohen" (251). Lowest karma: "ie" (-31), "failed" (-28), and "<-" (-26). You (magnuse) are ranked 13 out of 641. 12:30 Joubu Thanks, happy to hear it's useful :) 12:33 drojf ie-- 12:38 oleonard drojf: Was that just for good measure, or are you forced to use it? 12:38 tcohen morning 12:38 LibraryClaire hi tcohen 12:42 drojf oleonard: just because it showed up in the karma ranking 12:42 drojf i don't think anyone can force me to use ie anymore :P 12:42 tcohen Joubu: around? 12:43 Joubu tcohen: yep 12:48 drojf later #koha 12:59 vfernandes the members of Koha committee in this page https://koha-community.org/about/koha-project-organization/ are updated? 13:03 barton Joubu++ 13:04 barton ^^ for "What's on Koha devel #4" 13:04 barton I love reading those. 13:05 magnuse vfernandes: i think bag should be on that list? and Frédéric Démians is not Translation Manager any longer... not sure how up to date it is 13:13 vfernandes thanks magnuse 13:42 Joubu serials search is broken in stable branch, see bug 17300 for a fix 13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17300 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Serials search does not return any results 13:53 aroussos Joubu: I'm keen to test and sign off on this one, but how do I set my git install to work on the stable branch? 13:54 Joubu aroussos: test it against master 13:56 aroussos Joubu: OK thx 13:59 Dyrcona Whee! Fun with Internet connections. 14:01 LibraryClaire @wunder London, UK 14:01 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 26.0°C (2:50 PM BST on September 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 14:02 Dyrcona So, I can't get to freenode. I'm going to stay oftc until I get freenode working again so as not to spam the channel with connect and disconnect messages. 15:00 reiveune bye 16:05 oleonard Joubu's git-bz auto-dependency handling is magical! 17:16 Guest374 Hello kohaphiles 17:17 Guest374 i need assisting in setting up a hold / transfer mini system 17:17 Guest374 help 17:18 Guest374 koha is very techie, and i just need to find out where do I need to go in KOHA to be able to set everything up 17:22 Guest374 is there a specific help desk? contact? support? If I am in the wrong place? 17:23 oleonard Guest374: This is the right place to talk about Koha, but it isn't a help desk 17:23 oleonard People will help if they can, but it helps to have specific questions 17:23 oleonard See other support options here: https://koha-community.org/support/ 17:25 confused_ hello 17:25 wahanui hola, confused_ 17:25 confused_ hola 17:25 confused_ I accidently logged before 17:26 JesseM Guest374: Have you had a chance to look through the manual? http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.22/en/html-desktop/#libtransferlimits 17:26 confused_ I need assistance in setting up a hold / transfer mini system 17:27 JesseM http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.22/en/html-desktop/#transfers 17:31 confused_ I have gone over the manual 17:33 confused_ Is there a support email contact? 17:35 tcohen confused_: you can subscribe the General Koha mailing list, and ask your questions there 17:35 tcohen if you want professional (read paid) support, there's a section on the wiki for that 17:36 tcohen do you speak spanish? there's a spanish-speaking list too 17:36 confused_ okay 17:36 tcohen what was your question? it was too general 17:36 tcohen it won't work on the list either 17:37 tcohen everything is set on the Administration section in Koha 17:38 confused_ well the thing is, I can read the manual but it is another thing trying to make sense of all this code 17:38 tcohen ah 17:38 tcohen you want to code? 17:38 tcohen like, writing Perl code to hook into your Koha? 17:39 confused_ i need to find out (1) how to have only certain people receive a hold request notification by email - I can't even find out where to do this 17:40 tcohen You need to ask to the list, if it is possible to have that functionality in Koha 17:40 confused_ (2) I need to have these people who receive the hold notifications to be be able to set transfer 17:41 confused_ I wil look into this list tcohen as I am not a coder... 17:42 confused_ thank you 17:42 tcohen you are welcome 17:42 tcohen i'm sure you will find those answers you'er looking for 17:42 tcohen asynchronously 17:42 tcohen but you will 17:42 confused_ ` 18:02 aroussos I've written a small patch that fixes the issue described in bug 7046 18:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7046 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , subscription renewal period should be a pull down 18:02 aroussos then I realised that the bug has an Assignee (even though its status is still NEW) 18:03 aroussos unfortunately the bug history does not list _when_ it was assigned to that person 18:03 aroussos so, is it considered bad manners to take ownership of the bug at this point? 18:03 tcohen aroussos: not really, but it won't hurt it you email Colin 18:04 tcohen your call 18:05 aroussos tcohen: yeah I'll give that a shot if only to have a clear conscience 18:05 aroussos thanks 18:09 tcohen aroussos: u r welcome 18:14 oleonard Anyone know why I wouldn't be able to create a label batch from the 'Manage staged MARC records' page? 18:14 oleonard "Error attempting to create label batch. Please ask your system administrator to check the log for more details." 18:14 oleonard "manage-marc-import.pl: create_labelbatch_from_importbatch() : Call to C4::ImportBatch::GetItemNumbersFromImportBatch returned no item number(s) from import batch #23. at tools/manage-marc-import.pl line 198" 18:28 aroussos oleonard: the only Action I see on the 'Manage staged MARC records' page is 'Clean' 18:28 aroussos oleonard: how does one create a label batch? 18:29 oleonard aroussos: To the left of the "actions" column is the "# Items" column which should have a "Create label batch" link for any batch which contained items 18:30 aroussos oleonard: ah, the test .mrc file I just downloaded contained no items, hence the missing link 18:36 oleonard khall around? 18:36 khall yo 18:36 khall what's up? 18:36 oleonard Testing Bug 17297 18:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17297 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Give librarians the ability to add messages to an item 18:37 oleonard I don't understand what the drop-down list is for 18:37 oleonard "Test 1, Test 2" etc. 18:37 khall ah, without having tested the old patch, there's no context for it ; ). Basically, in the production version, the pulldown will be the "message type" 18:37 khall The message types will be defined by a list of authorised values 18:38 khall The type will be optional 18:39 oleonard What kind of feedback are you looking for on this patch? The idea? The interface? 18:40 khall really, it's an example to help with the question "Should we adopt React or Angular for Koha?" 18:40 khall I should put something on the mailing list to ping everyone about it 18:42 oleonard khall: I think it requires not just a ping but a detailed summary of what you think React can help us do and what your suggested path forward with it is. For instance, is the goal to "convert" existing pages to use it where currently we have jQuery and/or vanilla JS 18:44 khall oleonard: I'll do what I can. I think the power of React is that we can create React widgets to drop in wherever we want. It also makes ajax stuff far more sane to work on. 18:47 oleonard Bye the way khall, I notice your patch makes a lot of whitespace changes to staff-global.css. I don't think that belongs. 18:51 khall yeah, I'm not sure what happened there oleonard. I think maybe something in my vimrc or gitconfig decided the whitespace needed fixed ; ) 18:52 khall oleonard: I think it's the "Automatically fix whitespace errors in patches" bit I use from the Koha wiki 18:52 khall https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Automatically_fix_whitespace_errors_in_patches 18:53 khall we should probably remove that from the wiki if we don't want patches to do that ; ) 18:54 oleonard I would think that only applied to lines changed in the patch 18:58 oleonard Bye all 20:20 wajasu_ greetings! 20:23 tcohen hi 20:23 wahanui hola, tcohen 20:45 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 20:46 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 21.5°C (5:45 PM ART on September 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 21:21 tcohen @seen dcook 21:21 huginn tcohen: dcook was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 13 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <dcook> should be an olympics for coding with a baby in one hand and a keyboard with the other 21:35 * wajasu wonders if a migration from koha 3.10.02 to 16.05.23 will be easy :) 21:36 cait it should be 21:36 rangi well in 20 more months 21:36 rangi you could find out 21:36 rangi :) 21:36 * rangi guesses you meant .03 :) 21:38 wajasu probably, but not likely. grabbed the version it from the intranet file. 21:38 wajasu probably need to move forward to a newer debian release as well. 21:39 rangi we havent released 16.05.23 21:39 wajasu you are correct. 16.06.03 21:39 wajasu you are correct. 16.05.03 21:40 rangi it shouldnt be too bad 21:40 rangi theres a bunch of new dependencies 21:40 rangi including on apache 2.4.8 (or higher) if you want to use plack (and you do, it's too slow otherwise) 21:40 wajasu what debian release would it be on? wheezy or jessie? 21:40 rangi and some gotchas with mysql 5.7 or higher 21:40 rangi those are the main ones to watch for 21:43 wajasu are we using DBIC or plack yet? i haven't been around for some time. 21:43 rangi both 21:44 rangi thats why you need plack DBIC is too slow without it 21:55 wajasu well, maybe things are not as in flux(long bug dependency chains) and I can reasonably rework some outstanding patches I had done. 21:56 tcohen Jessie 21:57 wajasu thats what i wanted to hear :) 21:58 tcohen just load the old DB on a fresh 16.05 instance 21:59 tcohen and let koha-upgrade-schema <instance> 21:59 tcohen do its thing 21:59 tcohen rebuild solr, start the sphinx server, etc 21:59 tcohen kidding 21:59 tcohen remember to reindex zebra he 22:01 tcohen bye #koha 22:01 wajasu i was going to be inmpressed if you moved to solr, etc. 22:02 wizzyrea there is a reasonably urgent need to get this elasticsearch thing going properly 22:03 wizzyrea make it easy (documented well, anyway) to install, make it a bit more feature complete 22:03 wizzyrea and get people using it in the wild 22:03 wajasu are you running elastic search on jessie or another server. Its java based, so I could see if I'll be of use when I get my dev environment set. 22:04 wizzyrea I know almost 0 about it, it's on my list but other stuff keeps getting pushed ahead of it 22:04 wizzyrea which I suspect is a problem for most people 22:04 * wajasu looking at bugs related to search. 22:04 wizzyrea currently I think there is work in progress to upgrade our support to ES2 22:05 wajasu do you have specific bug numbers that i should look at? 22:08 wizzyrea bug 16660, bug 16838, bug 17169 22:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Elasticsearch broken if OpacSuppression is activated 22:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16838 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Elasticsearch - mapping tables are not populated on new installs 22:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, NEW , Add facets for ccode and language to elasticsearch 22:08 wizzyrea bug 14899 22:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Mapping configuration page for Elastic search 22:08 wizzyrea bug 17255 22:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17255 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ 22:09 wizzyrea bug 17132 22:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17132 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Availability search broken when using Elastic 22:10 wizzyrea a search will get most of those 22:11 wizzyrea but mostly, improving docs and installation instructions 22:11 wizzyrea and getting people using it in the wild 22:11 wizzyrea so they can report bugs so we can fix them 22:12 wizzyrea https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Elasticsearch/Implementation possibly useful. 22:13 wizzyrea https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Elasticsearch and this 22:13 wajasu i'll try to look at them when i get my jessie, 16.05.3 system up. do these need to be backported to some 3.x versions? 22:13 wizzyrea naw 22:13 wajasu when did ES arrive? 22:13 wajasu ok 22:13 wizzyrea 3.22 I think 22:13 wizzyrea 2 versions back - but no one is using it in 3.22 22:14 wizzyrea (that I know of) 22:14 wizzyrea it was basically experimental 22:14 wajasu do you deploy with ES on the same debian server or another one? 22:15 wizzyrea https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Elasticsearch the instructions for Koha that I know of are here 22:15 wizzyrea https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Elasticsearch#Basic_.27Get_Started.27_Steps specifically 22:17 hank_bank quit 22:17 wajasu i see now. this is not a big deal, but i see java8 on jessie should be sufficient. 22:25 wajasu i had alot of docker based testing locally for things like ldap, mysql, maria_db etc, so i might just add Elastic search, its been over year since i worked this stuff. Will try the vagrant as well. 22:29 wizzyrea we missed you :) 22:29 wizzyrea the devbox is pretty ok 22:29 wizzyrea just be sure to use the ansible one 22:33 wajasu i guess i can run it on my archlinux, since its starting large virtualbox instances. i did it that was some time back but the docker was more lightweight and i could swap newer/other distros easily. 22:36 wajasu tcohen did alot of work 22:36 wajasu tcohen++ 23:09 mtompset @seen mveron 23:09 huginn mtompset: mveron was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 15 hours, 50 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <mveron> Hi #koha 23:09 mtompset mveron++ # pointing at a good bug reference 15690 23:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 23:11 mtompset Anyone care for an easy sign off? bug 15690 23:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15690 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Unconstrained CardnumberLength preference conflicts with table column limit of 16 23:56 mtompset Have a great day, #koha