Time Nick Message 00:32 * dcook waves 05:21 * magnuse waves 05:28 * dcook waves to liw, magnuse, and sophie_m 05:28 magnuse kia ora dcook 05:28 sophie_m hi dcook and #koha 05:28 sophie_m and magnuse :) 05:29 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 05:52 drojf morning #koha 06:07 magnuse moin drojf 06:09 drojf hei magnuse 06:11 * cait waves 06:14 alex_a bonjour 06:17 * dcook waves to the Euro Kohaers 06:22 magnuse \o/ 06:22 magnuse oh don't forget gbsd on friday! 06:24 drojf ~o~ 06:39 reiveune hello 06:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:40 reiveune salut magnuse :) 06:52 fridolin hie 06:56 mtj here's a question for the #channel.. is it a bug that jQuery code doesnt work, when pasted into a 'OpacMain' or 'OpacHeader' syspref? 06:57 mtj ..or have i just experienced a 'feature' 07:00 mtj ^ i think loading jquery.js a little bit earlier in the page, would fix that 07:03 Joubu jquery.js should already be loaded at this point 07:07 mtj hmm, no.. its loaded after OpacFooter' too 07:10 mtj my nasty fix has been to manually load the jquery.js in the 'opacheader' syspref 07:10 mtj <script type="text/javascript" src="/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/lib/jquery/jquery.js"></script> 07:11 mtj seems to work ok.. but i'd love to fix it properly 07:12 Joubu ha yes indeed, at the OPAC all the JS code is loaded at the end 07:14 mtj i've read thats its a 'recommended performance enhancement', to have JS moved to the end of the page.. 07:14 mtj .. but, im curious if that also means _externally_ loaded *.js files too? 07:15 mtj perhaps we are doing it wrong, atm? 07:17 mtj some info... 07:17 wahanui some info is apparently drawn from from administration - libraries and groups, but other than that bg is right 07:17 mtj https://betterexplained.com/articles/speed-up-your-javascript-load-time/ 07:18 magnuse wahanui: forget some info 07:18 wahanui magnuse: I forgot some info 07:32 mtj hey magnuse, thanks for the gbsd reminder ^, im planning to help out on friday :) 07:33 mtj https://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#js_bottom 07:34 drojf how am i supposed to start a casual conversation about the world weather situation without huginn? :/ 07:40 Joubu LibraryClaire: Hi and thanks for you signoffs! :) 07:41 Joubu LibraryClaire: just a note: If something does not apply, switch the status to "does not apply" 07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: Hi! :) no problem 07:41 LibraryClaire Joubu: will try to test again later hopefully 07:41 LibraryClaire and will do! - I was unsure about changing status 07:42 LibraryClaire and hello #koha 08:05 magnuse yay for Bug 10407 08:05 magnuse @seen gmcharlt 08:05 magnuse gah! 08:08 drojf hello again 08:11 LibraryClaire hi drojf and magnuse 08:11 magnuse hiya LibraryClaire 08:14 LibraryClaire is huginn still sleeping in a gutter? 08:17 drojf hi LibraryClaire 08:18 LibraryClaire o/ 08:38 magnuse LibraryClaire: probably 08:38 LibraryClaire poor huginn 08:39 magnuse yeah, let's hope gmcharlt takes care of him today 08:55 magnuse kia ora paul_p 09:11 david hello, I have a search issue on KOHA where i cannot search for all the books in my koha database. 09:12 david We have tried reindexing the database but we could only search 3 books out of the 40000 records we have 09:12 david has anyone encountered this problem before? 09:13 magnuse david: do you get any errors when you reindex? 09:13 magnuse how do you do the reindexing? 09:15 david we used koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v <instance> 09:15 david we did not encounter any errors 09:16 david the error i came across while searching is this 09:16 david No results found No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: english' with limit(s): 'mc-itype,phr:BK'. 09:19 magnuse that's just koha saying what it did and what it found 09:19 magnuse and yo uhave books with itemtype = BK that should match "english"? 09:20 magnuse try to leave off the itemtype limit? 09:20 magnuse sorry, no better ideas come to mind and i gotta run off for lunch 09:37 drojf @seen marcelr 09:38 drojf ah, no bot 09:38 drojf >:( 09:43 LibraryClaire bot is still sleeping 10:00 * kidclamp waves 10:09 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp 10:09 kidclamp hello LibraryClaire 11:41 oleonard Hi #koha 11:42 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 11:42 wahanui hi olé onard 11:43 oleonard I hope you all enjoyed your American-free Monday 11:49 * cait waves 11:50 cait oleonard: totally... nice, quiet... boring 11:50 oleonard :) 12:39 magnuse whut, there was american-free monday? 12:40 LibraryClaire I noticed this when I put in a support call to the states yesterday. timing. 12:44 oleonard magnuse: National holiday here, Labor Day 12:44 magnuse nice 12:44 oleonard I'm told we don't celebrate Labor Day on May 1 because we hate commies. 12:44 * magnuse thought labour day was may 1st 12:44 magnuse ah, of course 12:44 magnuse ;-) 12:44 drojf lol 13:02 nengard morning all 13:07 kidclamp morning nengard 13:22 drojf espresso! 13:28 nengard hehe 13:38 vfernandes hi #koha 13:38 vfernandes i still need some help with koha 3.22 13:38 vfernandes i'm using koha 3.22 + memcached 13:39 vfernandes opac-search.pl very slow to totally load because of opac-image.pl concurrency 13:40 vfernandes bug #16309 13:40 vfernandes https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16309 13:41 vfernandes not using plack 13:43 vfernandes 30 opac-image.pl -> 3s for each .pl 13:44 vfernandes why this is so slow 13:44 Joubu because you are not using plack 13:46 vfernandes right, but if I want to run without plack isn't possible to get less loading time? 13:48 vfernandes my Koha is installed in a single folder (not installed from Ubuntu/Debian packages).... How to make Koha running on Plack? 13:49 drojf backup the db, import it in a debian installation, ???, profit 13:51 vfernandes drojf: that instructions are for me? 13:52 vfernandes I can't do that... 13:53 drojf vfernandes: it's for everyone that does not use the debian packages ;) 13:53 drojf there should be some info on setting up plack manually in the wiki 13:53 drojf but don't know how recent or out of date those are 13:54 drojf vfernandes: not running a debian based system? 13:54 vfernandes i'm running Koha on a debian system, but one requirement was to install Koha to a specific folder 13:55 vfernandes so everything needs to be done manually 13:56 vfernandes drojf: why 3.22 is more slow than 3.20 (without plack)? 13:56 vfernandes because of the database connector? 14:03 tcohen bonjour 14:04 drojf vfernandes: i think there are a lot of entries in the bug tracker related to performance 14:04 drojf hola tcohen 14:04 tcohen magnuse: i'd say bash completion is incomplete 14:05 vfernandes drojf: but must be a reason for that performance decrease 14:07 LibraryClaire hi tcohen o/ 14:08 Joubu vfernandes: the problem is that there is an non-compressible ~0.6sec to load the DBIx::Class schema 14:08 Joubu the schema is loaded only once with plack 14:09 vfernandes can I start plack manually? 14:10 Joubu vfernandes: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack#Plack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29 14:11 vfernandes Joubu: I've checked that page... I know that there is a script called koha-plack 14:12 drojf no there is not 14:12 Joubu so you know how to start it :) 14:12 drojf for you 14:12 drojf it's a package thing 15:07 reiveune1 bye 15:08 vfernandes Joubu: I'm getting "Not found" acessing to starman (running on port 5000) 16:33 kidclamp @later tell Joubu ping me about memcached/plack/sysprefs issues when you have a chance 16:47 tcohen kidclamp: 3.22? 16:47 wahanui it has been said that 3.22 is in good shape, some minor issues are raised by jenkins (devs, please take a look just in case is my fault or just want to fix something to feel good) 16:49 kidclamp yes tcohen 16:50 tcohen bug 16140? 16:50 tcohen @seen huggin 16:51 nengard uh oh 16:53 oleonard @seen huginn 16:57 nengard huggin is all gone ..... 16:58 cait gmcharlt is also gone - he could restart 16:58 wahanui okay, cait. 16:59 oleonard At least wahanui is still here, dutifully recording important information 17:03 nengard :) 17:04 drojf @later tell huginn if you were here this would work 17:05 * cait waves 17:05 kidclamp hi cait 17:06 gmcharlt @quote random 17:06 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls." (added by druthb at 07:49 PM, December 07, 2012) 17:09 cait :) 17:25 kidclamp tcoehn++ 17:25 kidclamp tcohen++ 17:30 LibraryClaire evening #koha 18:04 cait1 oleonard: around still? 18:04 oleonard Yes 18:04 cait1 :) 18:05 cait1 i was wondering for gbsd 18:05 cait1 there are some bugs with screenshots/design ideas 18:05 cait1 i'd like to make an emai lof those to the general list 18:05 oleonard Oh I thought you were going to ask if I could please fix all the bugs. I would if I could! 18:05 cait1 of course you would :) 18:06 cait1 no iw as going to ask you what you think of that idea and if you have bugs in mind 18:06 cait1 in was thinking about th enew holds page we did 18:06 cait1 just looking for the bug number now 18:06 cait1 and i think there was one in acquisitions 18:08 cait1 found it 18:08 cait1 bug 16421 18:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move hold edit actions into dropdown menu 18:08 oleonard Bug 16640 18:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Move actions on acquisitions receipt summary page into menu 18:08 cait1 and 16640 18:08 cait1 ah 18:08 cait1 yep :) 18:09 cait1 something else you can think of you#d like feedback on? 18:10 oleonard Bug 11375 18:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11375 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron permission names are untranslatable 18:12 cait1 this one is a bit odd to me 18:12 cait1 we don't have translatable system preferences either... 18:13 cait1 ah, i like the new view 18:13 cait1 can you still fold it? 18:13 cait1 ah yeah, with details 18:14 cait1 cool, 3 is good, something else? 18:15 oleonard I don't think so 18:16 cait1 thx! 18:22 magnuse what do y'all think of adding an easy way to change the due date after a loan has been issued? 18:22 magnuse the use case is a book that has the wrong itemtype and gets a wrong dure date 18:22 magnuse s/dure/due/ 18:23 cait1 i know some libraries would love it 18:23 magnuse now you have to return it, change things and make a new loan, which is a lot of clicking, especially if you have reservers on it 18:23 cait1 the problem now is if you miss to do it on checkout... and you send renewal and issue slip mails there is no way to correct without sending an email to the patron 18:24 cait1 hm probably you should send emails... but i have library that would like the feature for sure 18:24 magnuse there could be a "due date changed" message, perhaps 18:26 magnuse thanks cait1, not a totally crazy idea then, at least :-) 18:26 magnuse i have a library asking for it too 18:27 cait1 i know some other ils where you can do it 18:27 cait1 it doesn't seem totally crazy at all :) 18:27 LibraryClaire would it be logged in some way so it could be checked if there was an issue around due dates from the user? 18:29 LibraryClaire or at least apparent that it had been changed :) 18:30 magnuse LibraryClaire: that would be something to keep in mind, yeah 18:30 cait1 an entry to action_logs should be easy to do 18:30 cait1 could be helpful :) 18:30 LibraryClaire :D 18:30 cait1 log all the things! 18:30 cait1 hm sorry 18:30 cait1 :) 18:31 kidclamp do the pfts-europe sandboxes have elasticsearch? 18:31 magnuse @quote add <cait1> log all the things! 18:31 huginn magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:31 cait1 kidclamp: no idea 18:31 LibraryClaire huginn is back ^^ 18:31 huginn LibraryClaire: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 18:32 cait1 still the same 18:32 wahanui hmmm... the same is true i think for some other 'hidden' things, like hiding lots or damaged items by pref 18:32 magnuse i'll see if my customer wants to pay me to work on it, then :-) 19:53 tcohen hi 19:53 wahanui privet, tcohen 19:54 tcohen if there's someone that likes tricky bugs, please look at bug 17262 19:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17262 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Plack on packages is not having memcached set properly 19:54 cait1 hi :) 19:55 tcohen bug 17261 highlighted a problem, and the solution seems to highlight some more fun 19:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add memcached configuration info to about.pl 19:56 tcohen need to go home noe 19:56 tcohen now 19:56 tcohen later #koha 19:57 rangi morning 19:57 cait1 morning rangi 20:03 LibraryClaire hi rangi 20:04 rangi brb gotta shutdown my computer for a sec, something is making a high pitched whine and it is driving me nuts 20:19 eythian rangi: it's not nice to talk about your co-workers like that. 20:19 rangi heh 20:20 rangi it's super hard to test for not hearing something 20:20 eythian My parents are here, but they are sleeping off 38 hours of travel and so I have no living room at the moment. So went out to have some beers. 20:21 eythian Heh yeah, it'll all be phantom noise 20:22 cait eythian: they must really like you :) 20:22 cait eythian: going to any museums while they are visiting? 20:23 eythian cait: my mother wants to go to the MC Escher museum in Den Haag which is good (I went there years ago.) 20:23 cait cool 20:23 cait that's the one with the impossible drawings I think? 20:24 cait ahyep 20:25 eythian Yeah, but his older stuff is less mathematical and more artistic. 20:25 eythian It's interesting to see the history progress 20:26 cait sounds interesting 20:26 eythian It is. 20:26 eythian Hopefully I'll get the chance to take photos and write stuff. 20:35 LibraryClaire hi eythian 21:04 rangi hmmm 21:35 eythian Evening LibraryClaire 21:35 LibraryClaire o/ 21:36 rangi whoa 21:36 rangi there's something pretty missed up with plack on current master 21:39 rangi ahh mismatch between plack.psgi 21:47 wizzyrea oh yeah I've had to sort that one 21:47 wizzyrea frustrating for sure 21:47 wizzyrea eythian: I resemble that whiny co-worker remark 21:48 wizzyrea also awesome that your parents are there to visit. I still haven't been able to convince mine to come here 21:49 wizzyrea maybe it has something to do with the 85 steps up to my house? 21:51 * Francesca waves 21:54 LibraryClaire night #koha 21:56 wizzyrea hi Francesca, goodnight LibraryClaire 21:56 Francesca sup wizzyrea 21:57 wizzyrea little of this, little of that :) how are you? 21:57 wizzyrea school back in session? 21:57 Francesca yup 21:57 Francesca and the essays are already coming to destroy my soul 23:34 dcook wizzyrea: How does spud manage 85 steps up to the house? 23:34 wizzyrea one step at a time? 23:35 wizzyrea :) 23:35 wizzyrea (same as us) 23:35 dcook hehe 23:35 dcook I suppose I could do 85 steps with Ripley, although I wouldn't be able to carry much else than them. 23:35 dcook Well... 23:35 dcook I suppose spud must be pretty big these days though 23:36 wizzyrea ah yeah you couldn't probably carry him now 23:36 dcook rangi: I once heard a really weird high pitch whine in my bathroom... drove me nuts a bit until I realized it was the washing machine. It wasn't running, so it was something it was doing while "powered down". Damn phantom load... 23:36 dcook wizzyrea: I want to say challenge accepted, but my hip is bothering me a bit at the moment... :p 23:37 dcook With Ripley, it's taken constant carrying just to build up the ability to carry them for extended periods of time... O_O 23:40 wizzyrea well you, I mean "one" 23:40 wizzyrea I could do it but I'd have to go slowly. heh. 23:40 dcook hehe 23:40 dcook I've seen some amazing kid carries... 23:41 dcook Where the kid seems like they're the same size as the parent and just hanging off their front O_O