Time Nick Message 00:00 wizzyrea that was our challenge 00:01 jcamins Also, I need to find one that doesn't require drilling a hole in the wall, since the preferred location is directly over my ethernet run. 00:01 wizzyrea magazine racks might also work 00:04 jcamins I suppose I could also save space if I had some sort of loop that I attached to the wall to run the cables through. Then at least I could have the cables behind my desk when the tablets aren't there, and when they are, stack them in the corner. 04:53 wizzyrea papa++ because he's awesome 04:53 Oak papa++ 04:53 * Oak waves 04:54 Oak hello wizzyrea ! 04:54 papa oh hi :) 04:54 Oak :) 06:28 drojf morning #koha 06:29 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 06:29 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 06:48 morgane hi #koha 07:01 fridolin hie 07:15 reiveune hello 07:24 gaetan_B hello 07:47 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:47 cait morning LibraryClaire, #koha 07:48 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire und cait 07:48 LibraryClaire hi cait, hi drojf :) 07:58 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 07:58 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 20.0°C (8:50 AM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). 07:58 * LibraryClaire waits for the heat to begin 08:01 eythian hi LibraryClaire, cait, drojf, huginn 08:01 LibraryClaire hi eythian 08:01 eythian hi also reiveune, gaetan_B 08:01 eythian @wunder ams 08:01 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.6°C (10:00 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 08:02 eythian forecast for 30 today o.O 08:07 LibraryClaire same here 08:07 LibraryClaire and for tomorrow 08:07 eythian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KszJHdraSY <-- this is hilarious 08:28 * LibraryClaire wonders if cait has any muffins left... 08:49 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:49 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 08:49 drojf "heatwave" 08:49 drojf @wunder txl 08:49 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 20.6°C (10:41 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 08:51 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 08:51 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 22.0°C (9:20 AM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 08:51 eythian @wunder ams 08:51 LibraryClaire slowly creeping up 08:51 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 22.4°C (10:47 AM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 08:51 eythian yep, same here 10:46 akawa anyone has experience with koha-rfid? Id like to ask a few questions. 11:02 drojf akawa: your chance to get an answer might be better if you just ask a question 11:12 cait LibraryClaire: sorry, all gone in minutes yesterday 11:12 LibraryClaire :'( 11:12 cait and hi drojf 11:12 * cait promises to bake more another time 11:12 LibraryClaire :D 11:48 oleonard Hi #koha 11:53 LibraryClaire hi oleonard :) 11:59 * cait will never see oleonard the same way again 12:00 cait oh leopard... 12:05 LibraryClaire :D 12:06 oleonard Soon I will be more leopard than man. 12:07 cait you shoud get you a leopard print outfit for marseille :) 12:07 LibraryClaire onesie 12:07 cait lol 12:07 cait with hoodie and ears? 12:08 LibraryClaire yes! 12:09 oleonard My official Koha patching outfit 12:09 LibraryClaire pics or it didn't happen 12:12 Joubu @later tell rangi from the release notes of 3.20.14 : "The branch for this version of Koha and future bugfixes in this release line is 3.20.x. The last Koha release was 3.16.9, which was released on March 29, 2015" 12:12 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:12 Joubu hum, same for 16.5 12:13 Joubu @later tell fredericd from the release notes of 16.5.3 "The branch for this version of Koha and future bugfixes in this release line is 16.05.x. The last Koha release was 3.22.8, which was released on June 24, 2016." 12:13 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:23 eythian @wunder ams 12:23 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 26.3°C (2:22 PM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Falling). 12:24 eythian sheer madness 12:27 akawa @drojf You're right. The question is: Is is possible after a newly created book, to add some data of it in an RFID tag within koha? 12:27 huginn akawa: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 12:34 oleonard The catalogers here just tried Rancor for the first time and are very excited 12:34 cait :) 12:34 cait i think we'd use it too... but we are missing the authority linking 12:35 * oleonard fears Rancor will be abandoned now that pianohacker isn't around to maintain it 12:35 nengard no no no no no 12:36 nengard someone has to pick it up 12:36 nengard don't let it die 12:36 nengard Koha needs it!!!!! 12:37 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 12:37 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 29.0°C (1:20 PM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). 12:37 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 12:37 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 23.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 12:43 tcohen bonjour 12:43 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:43 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 10.0°C (9:00 AM ART on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 12:45 nengard @wunder 78754 12:45 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 25.7°C (7:43 AM CDT on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 12:45 marcelr hi #koha 12:45 * cait waves 12:46 * nengard waves 12:46 marcelr :) 12:46 tcohen hi cait nengard marcelr 12:46 marcelr hola tcohen 12:46 tcohen vagrant up & get a coffee 12:47 marcelr coffee! 12:49 LibraryClaire hi marcelr 12:49 marcelr hello LibraryClaire 12:49 LibraryClaire and hi tcohen 12:49 tcohen hey LibraryClaire 12:49 wahanui i heard LibraryClaire was the monster under my bed 12:49 oleonard Scary. 12:49 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui 12:49 wahanui ouch! 12:50 LibraryClaire >:) 12:52 marcelr wahanui is a monster 12:52 Joubu marcelr: hi! I understand the security (bug 17110), but don't you think you should not extend it a bit to cover the use case I described? 12:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17110 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Lower CSRF expiry in Koha::Token 12:52 marcelr Joubu: of course we can 12:53 Joubu marcelr: I agree it's hard to know what would be the best for the most common uses 12:53 marcelr well 24 hours then? 12:54 Joubu if you agree it's fine by me 12:54 marcelr just something similar is the very high value of the timeout pref 12:54 marcelr i reduced it to 4 hours 12:55 Joubu and why not to use the same value? 12:55 marcelr heh 12:55 Joubu it's a bit related 12:55 marcelr do you expect me to send a follow-up ? 12:55 marcelr for the csrf expiry only, i mean 12:55 Joubu not necessarily, I can write it 12:55 marcelr ok 12:56 Joubu I'd like to make sure we agree first :) 12:56 marcelr very good 12:57 Joubu tcohen: could you have a look at 17110 and tell use if you agree to set maxAge => pref('timeoutsomething') 12:57 Joubu s/use/us 12:59 marcelr Joubu: the default is very high, and you could extend 7 days to 4 months 13:00 marcelr or test if the pref is smaller than 7 days LOL 13:01 Joubu I thought you sent a patch to reduce the default value 13:02 marcelr no sorry i reduce this locally 13:02 tcohen Joubu: I don't understand the problemd domain :-DD 13:02 marcelr but could send a patch :_ 13:03 marcelr tcohen understands everything, i heard 13:04 Joubu MaxAge will invalidate token. the default is 7 days, which is too high 13:04 Joubu marcelr suggested to decrease it to 8 hours 13:05 Joubu I think 8 is too low, because of the use case I described on the bug (comment 3,4 or something) 13:05 Joubu so maybe the best would be to set it to the value of timeout pref 13:05 Joubu (too many discussions for a number) 13:08 Joubu oleonard: let me check again the code of the discharges 13:14 Joubu oleonard: I will PQA it, and see if we should remove the other check on another bug report. 13:15 marcelr Joubu: pick the minimum of timeout pref and 24 hours 13:18 oleonard Disappointing to hear Tim Spalding bad-mouth Koha and Evergreen. http://libux.co/038-tim-spalding/ (around 20:00). 13:18 oleonard I guess I shouldn't expect otherwise. 13:19 tcohen Joubu: I agree on setting it to whatever the session timeout pref is set 13:22 drojf oleonard: patches welcome 13:23 oleonard Some people would prefer to develop and sell a competing product rather than contribute to something. 13:23 oleonard He must not have /really/ thought open source was going to change things if he never got involved. 13:37 Joubu oleonard: on 17147 why did you decide to remove the "type" of message to display? 13:37 Joubu for instance .... 13:37 Joubu 1sec 13:37 oleonard I understand Joubu 13:37 Joubu great :) 13:38 oleonard The type was being used to change the style of the dialog. In my update the type is used to display a different icon instead 13:38 oleonard I thought that would allow the display to be more compact. 13:38 drojf oleonard: and "open source did not do whatever" is a cheap excuse to do proprietary junk 13:41 kidclamp bug 16918 would be a nice thing to get in to master 13:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16918 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , opacmain.pl is not running under plack 13:41 Joubu oleonard: there is something weird. If I select a template without action, I get the warning in the msg box, but not centered 13:41 Joubu it's text-align: left; padding-left: 25%; 13:42 oleonard Okay Joubu I will take another look 13:42 Joubu oleonard: do you want me to let a comment? 13:43 oleonard No I'll look right now 13:44 Joubu tcohen: you are cheating 13:45 tcohen i don't think so 13:45 Joubu you are author, and you qaed 13:45 tcohen i just did a qa followup 13:46 Joubu ;) 13:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17050: (QA followup) Use Mojo::Transaction to get the remote address <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=adbcaa99f4f1a0dc3c739cb15b4d3039d2a79c9e> / Bug 17050: Do not kick the session out when accessing the REST API <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5fc3d29373d2b6eecd9f3d26c798d603dae7d84> 13:56 cait fredericd: around? 13:58 oleonard Joubu: What is the text of the error message which is displaying incorrectly? 13:59 Joubu oleonard: The selected template (id=11) does not exist or no action is defined. 14:07 Joubu oleonard: I think it's the same for other messages as well 14:07 oleonard Thanks. In this revision all errors are displayed in an unordered list which use icons as bullets. It looks a little odd when there is only one list item. 14:07 oleonard But the padding might need to be adujsted 14:46 eythian @wunder ams 14:46 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 27.2°C (4:37 PM CEST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). 14:46 eythian why am I still inside? 14:47 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 14:47 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 30.0°C (3:20 PM BST on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 14:47 LibraryClaire 45 mins til I go find pimms 14:48 oleonard @wunder 45701 14:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 24.6°C (10:48 AM EDT on August 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 14:50 LibraryClaire mind you, bed would also be nice 14:54 marcelr khall: please look at bug 14390 (again) thx 14:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14390 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Fine not updated from 'FU' to 'F' on renewal 14:58 * Joubu fell into the trap 14:59 marcelr careful Joubu 14:59 marcelr oh i see what you mean :) 15:00 eythian LibraryClaire: yeah, I have plans to go biking a bit around the west part of the city followed by beers. 15:01 LibraryClaire eythian: sounds nice 15:02 drojf great picture in my head 15:02 drojf followed by beers 15:02 drojf are they on bikes? 15:02 Joubu :D 15:02 Joubu sounds scary 15:02 drojf or, tasty 15:02 eythian http://www.stag-amsterdam.com/images/katakt/Beer_bus(1).jpg 15:02 eythian sometimes, yes 15:03 Joubu Amstel light... 15:03 LibraryClaire light... 15:03 eythian Joubu: now you see the need to escape! 15:03 LibraryClaire hah 15:08 drojf Joubu++ 15:08 drojf why is the other paul on the dev list in the first place? :/ 15:08 oleonard So that he can post messages like that, of course. 15:09 drojf ok, better than on the main list. i guess 15:09 drojf less chance to do damage 15:09 oleonard I wonder if he subscribes to other software-related mailing lists so that he can tell people not to upgrade there too? 15:09 drojf or… find somebody that takes him seriously 15:09 drojf he is a mysql hipster 15:09 drojf he only likes ancient koha i guess 15:09 drojf so that he has something to talk about 15:09 drojf it makes him special 15:10 francharb the demo was good 15:10 francharb ;) 15:11 drojf koha 3.8 with mysql 5.7 15:13 tcohen ha 15:22 drojf hm ok. 3.8.24 is only 26 months old. how many security fixes can we have had in that time 15:23 Joubu I wanted to list them, but... it could have scared him a bit 15:29 morgane bye #koha 15:31 drojf Joubu: do it! :D 15:31 Joubu drojf: I decided to dedicate my time to something useful indeed :) 15:33 drojf maybe we can crowdsource it. and send them one by one 15:33 LibraryClaire laters #koha 15:33 kidclamp bye LibraryClaire 15:43 gaetan_B bye 15:48 drojf bye #koha 16:02 fredericd cait: yes 16:03 cait there is a patch for fixing broken fine calculation 16:03 cait that i was hoping we could get into the maint release 16:03 cait it's bug 14390 16:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14390 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Fine not updated from 'FU' to 'F' on renewal 16:06 fredericd Ok. Do you mean you would like to get this patch into stable branch before it is pushed into master branch? 16:08 cait more to get it into this maintenance release maybe 16:08 cait not sure if we can make it work 16:08 cait the bug description is misleading 16:08 cait sec 16:09 cait what we are trying to do is fix bug 17135 there 16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one 16:10 cait a problem that has been introduced more recently than the other bug 16:11 fredericd So it's a regression on 17.05 (bug 17135), which is bad 16:11 cait yes 16:12 cait caused by 15675 16:12 cait bug 15675 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15675 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines 16:12 cait I think we might need another day to figure things out as t looks like 16:13 cait I think tomas also sent an email about something related to the API 16:13 cait oh, i just relaized there is already a 16.05.03 - too late? 16:14 fredericd cait: Yes, you're correct about Tomas demand, but it's not that bad, from my perspective, since it isn't a regression. It's just about REST API 16:14 cait hm isn't it a security leak? 16:14 cait because the rest api is automatically activated I was told 16:14 cait i am still trying to understand it actually, i have added a few question to tomorrow's dev meeting actually 16:15 fredericd A mid-term 16.05.03 could be released in a week if necessary 16:16 fredericd Since when bug 17135 is there. 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one 16:17 cait ok 17:05 kidclamp_webinar Joubu++ 17:06 kidclamp that was a nice solution to that bug 17:17 vbman213 greetings! I have a quick question concerning match rules and importing. I'm trying to migrate my school's old LibSoft MARC records into Koha. LibSoft includes the barcode as a 949$i field. I am having a hard time matching incoming records against current records by comparing the 949$i value 17:17 vbman213 I have a match rule with a threshold of 1, and one match point 949$i with a score of 1 17:22 drojf try score 2 17:28 cait vbman213: in order to match there needs to be an index on the field 17:28 cait 949 is probably not indexed 17:28 cait for search 17:30 vbman213 is it possible to add fields to the index? 17:33 vbman213 I added a search field for 949i 17:34 vbman213 trying again 17:36 vbman213 can search index be blank? 17:37 cait i am not sure, i have never treid it - maybe it falls back to a keyword search, but that's not usually waht you wnt 17:50 Joubu Can we deliberate add hidden features? 17:54 Joubu I did on bug 17173... 17:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17173 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Quick edit a subfield in frameworks 19:18 cait Joubu++ 19:18 cait ... reading today's mailing list mails 19:49 Chris_ Good day. Can anyone assist with an issue I aM having with my koha? 19:49 kidclamp what's the issue Chris_? 19:49 Chris_ Staff members are not allowed to discharge borrowers, nor borrowers to request a discharge. 19:50 Chris_ this happens when I try to checkout aything 19:53 cait which version are you using? 19:53 Chris_ 3.22.08.00 19:54 cait what happens when you checkout? a message is shown? 19:54 Chris_ yes 19:55 cait what does it say? 19:56 Chris_ Staff members are not allowed to discharge borrowers, nor borrowers to request a discharge. 20:04 kidclamp Chris_ : https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16670 20:04 huginn 04Bug 16670: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , CGI->param used in list context 20:05 kidclamp it looks like a bug that is fixed in the next release 20:06 Chris_ Thanks let me check 20:12 cait ah sorry, got distracted (cooking dinner) 20:20 cait trying not to burn things 20:21 cait kidclamp++ 20:22 tcohen @seen ashimema 20:22 huginn tcohen: ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 6 hours, 56 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <ashimema> took me a while to get down there ;) 20:26 rangi @later tell Joubu ahh yep thanks, ill fix that in the template for the next release 20:27 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:29 tcohen hi rangi 20:29 rangi heya tcohen 20:29 tcohen rangi: it seems tonight I'll be using my PS3 overnight until some dev meeting he 20:30 rangi heh 20:34 drojf tcohen: ithe problem is only http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=0f706677bd4016816f903c740a8ac0e361aa9f78 right? 20:34 tcohen exactly 20:34 drojf or are more commits relevant? 20:35 tcohen and the next one 20:35 wahanui the next one is from you: 4373 20:36 tcohen this: 20:36 drojf hm ok i think i will leave them out then for this one 20:36 tcohen https://snag.gy/HXFwPJ.jpg 20:36 tcohen that's from the 16.05.x branch 20:36 drojf yes i have the same window open ;) 20:37 tcohen it's a pity 20:38 tcohen it is fixed by bug 14868, which needs to go the QA process 20:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14868 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, larit, Needs Signoff , REST API: Swagger2-driven permission checking 20:39 drojf next month :) 20:39 tcohen sure, I asked fredericd if he would backport it 20:39 tcohen otherwise we need patches for 16815 20:40 cait bug 16815 20:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16815 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , API routes to list, create, update, delete holds need permissions 20:41 tcohen if he doesn't backport 14868 I'd vote to just revert the patches 20:42 * tcohen really likes that patchset 20:42 cait heh 20:42 cait qa it? :) 20:43 tcohen i started today 20:43 cait cool :) 20:43 tcohen i have doubts about several things 20:43 tcohen i'm not a swagger expert as others might be here 20:44 tcohen but the way it introduces permissions on the swagger file is really handy 20:44 tcohen maintainable 20:44 tcohen i really like it 20:44 tcohen anyway, things to talk later I guess 20:49 rangi @later tell joubu cherry-picked the commit over, thanks 20:49 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:56 tcohen later #koha 21:11 drojf who would set 7 UTC as a meeting time? :/ 21:16 cait drojf: ? 21:16 cait weren't you there? 21:17 drojf cait: never! 21:17 cait believe what you want 21:18 drojf that's my style :D 21:25 wizzyrea hi' 21:28 cait hi wizzyrea 21:31 drojf hi wizzyrea 21:31 drojf and good night #koha 21:31 cait night drotsk 21:31 cait night drojf