Time  Nick            Message
03:31 wizzyrea        @later tell cait for translating the home page, I guess I need a .mo file see https://cyberchimps.com/forum-topic/translation-homepage/
03:31 huginn          wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:36 dcook           wizzyrea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za4BKMMdrXA
03:37 wizzyrea        hehe wut
03:37 dcook           .mo... moe... moe...
06:03 reza_           Hello, I have a problem with opac search.
06:03 reza_           It's incredibly slow! i have 8gb of memory with 8 core.
06:03 reza_           148,133 biblioitems and running on Debian package Koha version 3.2209000 (just minor upgraded from 3.2204000). 45,097 borrowers.
06:03 reza_           yaz client search result:
06:03 reza_           Z> f linux
06:03 reza_           Sent searchRequest.
06:03 reza_           Received SearchResponse.
06:03 reza_           Search was a success.
06:03 reza_           Number of hits: 235, setno 3
06:03 reza_           SearchResult-1: term=linux cnt=235
06:04 reza_           records returned: 0
06:04 reza_           Elapsed: 0.000647
06:04 reza_           but when I use the opac to search it may take 40 seconds to show the results. Do you know what is the problem??
06:04 reza_           My uname: Linux lib 3.19.0-64-generic #72~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 24 17:59:48 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:04 reza_           anyone can tell me why is it so slow?
06:55 morgane         hi #koha !
06:58 * cait          waves
06:58 cait            :)
06:58 morgane         hi cait :)
06:59 drojf           morning #koha
07:00 reza_           anyone can help?
07:05 Joubu           Are you using plack? Is memcached correctly configured?
07:05 reza_           I didn't configure plack
07:06 Joubu           you should
07:07 reza_           will it cause downtime during configuration?
07:09 reza_           I've enabled the plack. but it's still the same :(
07:10 Joubu           reza_: sudo koha-plack --enable your_instance; sudo koha-plack --restart your_instance; sudo service apache --restart;
07:10 Joubu           you need to enable, restart plack then restart apache
07:11 Joubu           last cmd is sudo service apache2 restart
07:12 reza_           i have done it. but the search is still very slow.
07:12 reza_           do i need to configure anything after enabling the plack?
07:12 Joubu           reza_ how many results are returned by the search?
07:13 reza_           for the query "test result" 17438
07:13 Joubu           try to change the value of use_zebra_facets in your KOHA_CONF file
07:13 Joubu           configure memcached correctly
07:14 Joubu           and that should be faster
07:14 reza_           what value should i change use_zebra_facets to?
07:15 reza_           0 ?
07:15 Joubu           yes
07:16 reza_           wow
07:16 reza_           it's a lot faster now 0_o
07:16 reza_           what was the problem!?
07:16 Joubu           see bug 13665
07:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13665 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from zebra is slow
07:18 reza_           thank you very much :D
07:18 Joubu           what is "a lot faster"?
07:19 reza_           less than 8 seconds
07:20 reza_           it was about 20 over seconds...
07:20 cait            how many records do you have reza?
07:20 Joubu           still slow IMO
07:20 cait            yes
07:21 reza            148,133 records
07:22 reza            Debian package Koha version 3.2209000
07:22 reza            45,097 borrowers
07:22 Joubu           reza: configure memcached :)
07:23 reza            in config?
07:25 reza            ok, found it. environment variable
07:25 Joubu           reza: you need to set it in the psgi file
07:27 reza            let me find where is it..
07:29 reza            should I follow this: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Performance#Configuration
07:31 Joubu           no
07:32 fridolin        hie
07:32 Joubu           reza: /etc/koha/plack.psgi OR /etc/koha/sites/YOUR_SITE/plack.psgi
07:32 reza            yes. I found the file
07:32 reza            what should I add to the file?
07:32 Joubu           then $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211";
07:33 Joubu           if localhost:11211 is where your memcached server is
07:33 reza            OK
07:33 gaetan_B        hello
07:33 wahanui         hi, gaetan_B
07:34 Joubu           hi BibLibre ;)
07:40 reza            @Joubu: shall i paste  $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211";         anywhere in the plack file?
07:40 huginn          reza: downloading the Perl source
07:41 Joubu           reza: before the app defs should be ok, around l.56
07:41 Joubu           57 my $intranet = Plack::App::CGIBin->new(
07:45 reza            OK. it's less than 6 sec now
07:50 eythian         hi
07:50 LibraryClaire   hi eythian
07:52 eythian         how is jolly old England doing?
07:54 LibraryClaire   raining ^^
07:56 cait            sunshine here )
08:01 reza            thanks everyone. I guess my problem is solved :D
08:01 reza            thank you <Joubu>
08:08 eythian         @wunder ams
08:08 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.9°C (10:08 AM CEST on August 19, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
08:09 eythian         http://www.weer.nl/verwachting/nederland/amsterdam/1812872/ <-- damn, guess who didn't bring a jacket
08:16 drojf           hi again
08:17 LibraryClaire   hi drojf
08:17 LibraryClaire   @wunder LCY
08:17 huginn          LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 18.0°C (8:50 AM BST on August 19, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
08:17 drojf           hi LibraryClaire
08:40 marcelr         @later tell khall please look at bug 14390 and bug 17135
08:40 huginn          marcelr: The operation succeeded.
08:55 cait            marcelr: thx for taking on the F/FU patch
08:58 marcelr         hmm
09:02 cait            just read your comment - sounds nasty
09:07 marcelr         cait: yes i think you picked the best road
09:08 cait            hm?
09:08 marcelr         in correcting UpdateFine
09:08 cait            ah, it seems the logical one
09:08 cait            but i hope we won't miss something again
09:08 marcelr         removing an id is a workaround thing
09:09 cait            but glad now Julian didn't push it - was good to wait
09:09 marcelr         no but look at 17135
09:09 marcelr         actually the same problem already in stable
09:09 marcelr         a fix should go in fast
09:10 cait            ah, got confused about versions
09:10 cait            so yeah, we need to get on that fast
09:11 cait            ugh.
09:14 cait            will be back in a bit
09:32 marcelr         Joubu?
09:32 wahanui         Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly
09:32 marcelr         yeah
09:32 marcelr         :)
09:32 Joubu           marcelr: !
09:32 marcelr         hi JoubuL could you add a follow-up to 16276 for kohastructure
09:32 marcelr         s/L//
09:33 Joubu           marcelr: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=54592 ?
09:34 marcelr         hm did i spot somewhere last_seen ?
09:34 Joubu           lastseen
09:34 Joubu           erk
09:34 marcelr         last_seen            => $last_seen
09:35 marcelr         my $filterlastseen   = $params->{'last_seen'};
09:35 marcelr         what did i see last? :)
09:35 Joubu           yes, tt and pl use last_seen
09:35 Joubu           but column name is lastseen
09:35 marcelr         ok
09:36 Joubu           because...
09:36 Joubu           I don't know why actually
09:36 marcelr         $patstodel lol
09:36 Joubu           I guess it was because the borrowers table did not contain columns with _
09:36 Joubu           but now some exist
09:37 arshad          hi
09:37 arshad          how are you?
09:37 Joubu           marcelr: it would make sense to rename it
09:38 Joubu           marcelr: do you want a follow-up?
09:38 arshad          to which have to rename
09:38 marcelr         please wait a while
09:38 Joubu           k
09:38 marcelr         still thinking about lastseen though
09:38 marcelr         what about if you just checkout a book to that patron
09:39 marcelr         or he returned one etc
09:39 marcelr         should it not be last login or so?
09:39 Joubu           unless someone wants to extend the feature
09:40 marcelr         in that case he can rename too ..
09:40 Joubu           yes :)
09:41 marcelr         another point: should we not just update if the pref is set?
09:41 marcelr         and do it in Koha::Patron
09:41 marcelr         $patron->track_login or something
09:43 Joubu           we could update it only if the pref is set, but if you want to enable the pref it would be useful to already have the data in the table
09:44 marcelr         i would say : we start tracking if you enable Track.. (just do what you say)
09:44 marcelr         if you say do not track, now you are tracking
09:45 Joubu           hum?
09:45 marcelr         in Auth.pm
09:45 marcelr         just always updating
09:45 Joubu           yes, for the reason above
09:46 Joubu           but we could add a switch if you think it's better
09:46 Joubu           I don't have a strong preference
09:46 marcelr         or update the pref description
09:46 marcelr         you always track, but the pref shows or hides
09:54 cait            Joubu: please only update when pref is set
09:54 cait            that way people can choose to collect the data or not- seems nicer
09:55 marcelr         i tend to agree cait
09:55 marcelr         so 2>1 ?
09:55 marcelr         Joubu: i add a follow-up
09:56 marcelr         and hurt your child ;)
09:56 cait            ouch
09:56 Joubu           marcelr: I am ok with that
09:56 * cait          leaves again... house chores
11:49 oleonard        Hi #koha
11:50 LibraryClaire   hi oleonard :)
11:50 eythian         Hi oleopard
11:50 LibraryClaire   :D
11:50 druthb          hi, oleonard! :)
11:50 oleonard        What's the plan for today?
11:51 eythian         It's friday, so it may involve beers. We'll see.
11:57 oleonard        No other suggestions, so I'm going with eythian's plan.
11:58 druthb          "Why is the rum always gone..?"
11:58 oleonard        8AM isn't too early to start planning is it?
12:15 druthb          8 AM is too early to start *living*.
12:26 archer121       How do I do a batch patron discharge in koha?
12:27 oleonard        I don't think it's possible archer121
12:27 oleonard        I suppose you could theoretically do it directly in MySQL, but I don't think there is a way to do it via the staff client.
12:28 archer121       We are running a college library. So every year, about 1000 patrons pass out. What should we do with the list of 1000 patrons?
12:28 archer121       What is the usual procedure?
12:30 oleonard        archer121, I work for a public library where discharges aren't part of our process. You might get some good answers on the Koha mailing list.
12:34 Joubu           archer121: it's not possible out of the box, you will have to script
12:37 nengard         morning all
13:03 cait            archer121: do mean Koha's discharge feature or are you looking to delete/debar them?
13:06 archer121       cait: Can we debar patrons in batch?
13:07 cait            i think you could use the patron batch edit feature
13:08 oleonard        I don't see that as an option in the batch patron modification tool
13:09 Joubu           no I don't think so
13:09 cait            sorry, was still checking
13:09 cait            i am slow today
13:09 oleonard        It would be more useful than the option to do a batch update of patron first name ;)
13:09 Joubu           compared to my laptop, I am so fast today...
13:10 Joubu           oleonard: you never know!
13:10 cait            Joubu: still broken?
13:10 wahanui         well, broken is not what we want.
13:10 Joubu           will be broken forever
13:10 Joubu           rip
13:12 cait            hm confirmed.. no batch debarment
13:12 cait            poor thing :(
13:12 cait            working from an old machine now?
13:14 Joubu           old and slow, yes
13:15 cait            any chance for new equipment soon?
13:15 Joubu           I ordered yesterday
13:15 * LibraryClaire is looking for a laptop
13:15 Joubu           should arrive next weel
13:15 Joubu           week
13:16 eythian         in similarly traumatic news, my noise cancelling headphones have died.
13:16 Joubu           LibraryClaire: I ordered at pcspecialist.co.uk, good prices and you can build your laptop
13:16 LibraryClaire   aaah
13:16 eythian         Replacements won't arrive until next week.
13:16 LibraryClaire   yes I know them for desktops
13:16 eythian         how do people work without noise cancelling?
13:16 eythian         I CAN HEAR PEOPLE TYPING!
13:16 Joubu           :)
13:17 Joubu           work at home, you won't have this problem
13:18 eythian         Until I phone my ISP and get them to fix my connection, the VPN won't work.
13:18 eythian         I should get on to that
13:18 cait            eythian: never had noise cancelling...
13:18 eythian         weirdo
13:18 LibraryClaire   I get freaked out by noise cancelling - I can't eavesdrop :P
13:18 cait            once i get used to it, there is no way back it seems
13:18 eythian         though, your office isn't so open plan as this one.
13:18 cait            ... so not sure it's good tostart?
13:18 cait            nope
13:19 eythian         LibraryClaire: you can, you just turn the switch off. But it gives you more choice about when you do it.
13:19 eythian         It's like having a switch that turns off the rest of the room.
13:19 LibraryClaire   i usually have one ear on, one ear off
13:19 eythian         that's weird don't do that :)
13:19 LibraryClaire   :D
13:20 LibraryClaire   but then I get music and I know when people talk to me unnanounced
13:20 eythian         if people want to talk to me unannounced, they can wait.
13:22 * cait          needs to hear the telephone
13:22 Joubu           bug 2735 actually broke the pagination more than it was...
13:22 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2735 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Authority search in OPAC stops at 15 pages
13:22 cait            oops
13:22 drojf           cait: get one with a lamp
13:22 drojf           or a really loud ringtone
13:24 eythian         https://www.bose.nl/nl_nl/products/headphones/over_ear_headphones/quietcomfort-35-wireless.html#v=qc35_black <-- this is what I will be replacing with
13:24 eythian         it's basically newest version of what I had.
13:25 drojf           looks warm
13:25 cait            drojf: don't have much choice there ) and office mates will complain aboutthe really loud ringtone i guess :)
13:25 drojf           lousy coworkers ^^
13:26 eythian         if you have noise cancelling, you can't hear them complain
13:33 cait            heh
13:33 cait            i will think about it :)
13:41 Joubu           patch on bug 17048, the pagination is broken for auth search (opac+staff). Please SO+QA as we can get it in for the next releases
13:41 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17048 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Authority search result list page scrolling not working properly
13:46 eythian         http://www.buienradar.nl/ <-- ruh roh
14:02 sophie_m        hello #koha
14:05 sophie_m        I've got a functional issue : when cataloging, if you duplicate a field, the new one is created empty of data, but if you duplicate a subfield, the new one contains a copy of the data in subfield. Is it on purpose ? Why the new subfield is not empty ?
14:08 cait            I've wondered the same thing in the past
14:08 oleonard        Sounds like a bug
14:09 eythian         you say that, but https://xkcd.com/1172/
14:10 sophie_m        eythian: :) we're just saying the same thing with gaetan_B
14:11 sophie_m        cait, oleonard, should I fill a bug ?
14:11 gaetan_B        that's a strong argument for removing this behaviour if you ask me :)
14:11 gaetan_B        (the xkcd comic)
14:11 cait            sophie_m: i'd sign it off :)
14:12 sophie_m        ok cait :)
14:12 cait            well, can't really promise... but i think it's a bug
14:20 Joubu           I think that it comes from the laziness of devs
14:20 Joubu           it's easy to duplicate a subfield and c/p its data, not for an entire field
14:22 sophie_m        Joubu: do you mean that when duplicating (field or subfield) the new one should not be empty ?
14:24 Joubu           I have always thought that the bug was to get an empty field, not to get a fulfilled subfield
14:24 Joubu           but I am not a librarian :)
14:27 Joubu           maybe not:
14:27 Joubu           110                     inputs[j].value = "";
14:27 Joubu           from the CloneField JS function
14:27 Joubu           so the fields are emptied on purpose
14:33 sophie_m        Joubu, most of the time, when you want a new field/subfield, it is to put different data in it
14:47 cait            agrees
14:54 oleonard        Look what I ran across: Bug 13552
14:54 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13552 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, NEW , Add debar option to batch patron modification
14:54 oleonard        Too bad there isn't a patch on it :(
14:54 cait            yeah :(
14:54 cait            have to go - cya all tomorrow or on monday
14:54 oleonard        Have a good weekend cait
14:55 * oleonard      too slow
15:16 Joubu           oleonard: do not hesitate to create the "depends on" link when you know the bug number which has introduced the issue
15:17 Joubu           I receive the notification
15:17 oleonard        Okay Joubu
15:17 Joubu           oleonard: for instance on bug 17118 you noted the bug# in the bug title, but I was not aware of it before today
15:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17118 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Regression: Bug 15381 triggers error when trying to clear a linked authority
15:18 Joubu           Am I disconnect? :)
15:18 Joubu           bug 17118
15:18 eythian         Joubu: I can't see anything you're saying at all
15:19 Joubu           I did not receive the first huginn msg, weird
15:20 eythian         it sent, but it didn't send again because it doesn't repeat itself I think
15:21 Joubu           make sense, but I received it after the second one
15:22 eythian         weeeird
15:22 kidclamp        Joubu, zaphod
15:22 kidclamp        oops, wrong windows
15:22 Joubu           37% packet loss
15:22 kidclamp        Hi Joubu
15:23 Joubu           not so weird actually...
15:23 Joubu           zaphod kidclamp!
15:23 eythian         kidclamp: zaphod!
15:23 kidclamp        that's totally not the password for my devbox
15:23 kidclamp        just saying
15:23 kidclamp        it's not
15:26 Joubu           the password for your devbox should be 'koha'. That way nobody can guess it when you type it in the wrong window
15:26 kidclamp        that's a good point
15:27 eythian         you should also make it start with a / so it's harder to accidentally IRC
15:27 kidclamp        even better
15:27 wahanui         rumour has it even better is what oleonard said just after that
15:28 eythian         wahanui: rumour =~ s/oleonard/oleopard/
15:28 wahanui         I didn't have anything matching 'rumour', eythian
15:28 oleonard        Ha, I wonder what I said just after that?
15:28 eythian         wahanui: even better =~ s/oleonard/oleopard/
15:28 wahanui         OK, eythian
15:29 eythian         ok...
15:29 * eythian       &
15:30 oleonard        Bye #koha, maybe I'll see you later
15:57 morgane         bye #koha !
16:06 Joubu           have a good week-end #koha!
16:12 kidclamp        you too Joubu
16:16 bag             @seen alvet
16:16 huginn          bag: alvet was last seen in #koha 1 year, 31 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 56 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <alvet> hi wizzyrea :)
16:38 gaetan_B        bye
16:58 eythian         @later tell marcelr I hope you drive this https://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/two_third_slider/public/cars_images/gb-40-vl-klein-wm-9855.jpg?itok=gjG8h0C_
16:58 huginn          eythian: The operation succeeded.
17:04 tcohen          bonsoir
17:30 tcohen          Joubu?
17:30 wahanui         Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly
17:33 tcohen          @seen Joubu
17:33 huginn          tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <Joubu> have a good week-end #koha!
17:36 barton          larryb: ping about littleelm
18:19 tcohen          ashimema: please review bug 17050 patches and stamp your signature!
18:19 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17050 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Accessing the REST API through Plack kicks the session out
18:19 tcohen          (if you agree with them)
19:15 aliki           Hello everybody, i'm trying to test a bug and it's the first time that I'm asked for credentials
19:16 aliki           this is the url I'm trying to test
19:16 aliki           http://pro.test1.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/installer/install.pl
19:41 aliki           No, still can't log in :(
20:33 nengard         hi tcohen
20:34 tcohen          hi nengard !
20:34 nengard         :)
20:37 tcohen          git diff origin/master --name-only
20:37 tcohen          oops :-D