Time Nick Message 00:32 wizzyrea would you expect an item linked via 773o to a host item to display in the search results as available? 00:32 wizzyrea I think I would... 07:01 morgane hi #koha ! 07:02 cait morning morgane :) 07:02 morgane hello cait :) 07:27 gaetan_B hello 07:27 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 07:27 drojf morning #koha 07:31 marcelr hi #koha 07:36 fridolin hie 07:37 marcelr bonjour fridolin 07:44 marcelr morning LibraryClaire 07:44 LibraryClaire hi marcelr :) 07:51 wizzycrayfish eythian that sounds like the best way to respond to things like that. 07:52 drojf @wunder txl 07:52 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 15.6°C (9:51 AM CEST on August 18, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 07:52 drojf hrmpf 07:52 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 07:52 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 17.0°C (8:20 AM BST on August 18, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 07:57 drojf hi marcelr and LibraryClaire 07:57 marcelr gute morgen drojf 07:57 LibraryClaire hi drojf :) 08:02 * Joubu 's laptop just died... 08:03 * drojf sends condolences :( 08:06 LibraryClaire oh no :(( 08:07 eythian hi 08:07 drojf hi eythian 08:08 LibraryClaire hi eythian 08:13 marcelr goedemorgen eythian 08:15 eythian wow, I ordered something from amazon.de and paid for the superfast shipping (new headphone cable for mine that's failing.) It left Swansea yesterday afternoon, and apparently went out for delivery here before 7am today. That's quite speedy. 08:16 LibraryClaire yay, Swansea... 08:16 LibraryClaire hm that's where they ship stuff from to mainland Europe? 08:16 eythian I guess. It seems that amazon also has a warehouse there. 08:17 LibraryClaire yeh they do 08:17 eythian Crymlyn Burrows specifically 08:17 LibraryClaire isn't Wales lovely 08:17 eythian I've never been :) 08:19 eythian https://goo.gl/maps/p2LCUGTmNv72 <-- not the most inspiring looking university campus however 08:20 drojf space for imagination, i like it 08:20 LibraryClaire on the plus side, there's a tesco express... 08:20 LibraryClaire hm 08:23 * LibraryClaire goes to make coffee 08:24 * drojf waits patiently 08:24 Joubu eythian: you should go to Wales, it's beautiful (and they brew good beers) 08:24 * drojf practices the meow 08:24 drojf they have good perry too 08:24 drojf (and cider for the apple people) 08:26 drojf [off] http://www.gwyntcidershop.com/ i should get some 08:26 drojf [off] it's to early for perry o'clock, right? 08:27 drojf pear-fection. *giggles* 08:28 LibraryClaire Wales is beautiful, it just rains a fair amount 08:28 cait Joubu: ouch :( 08:32 cait hm Wales sounds like a place for me :) 08:32 drojf let's have kohacon there 08:33 drojf or a koha hiking trip 08:34 drojf the national botanic garden of wales has koha, apparently 08:34 drojf ashimema: can we have a kohacon there please? ^ 08:34 cait heh 09:50 drojf hello again 09:51 * LibraryClaire waves 10:01 sameeenz Hey all! 11:36 eythian wahanui: status 11:36 wahanui Since Thu Jun 16 21:59:33 2016, there have been 538 modifications and 202 questions. I have been awake for 62 days, 13 hours, 37 minutes, 0 seconds this session, and currently reference 49163 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. 11:36 drojf @karma wahanui 11:36 huginn drojf: Karma for "wahanui" has been increased 5 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 4. 11:37 drojf poor bot 11:37 wahanui i heard poor bot was probably just tired 11:37 drojf @karma 11:37 huginn drojf: Highest karma: "cait" (387), "Joubu" (345), and "tcohen" (248). Lowest karma: "ie" (-30), "failed" (-28), and "<-" (-27). You (drojf) are ranked 10 out of 630. 11:37 drojf ie-- 11:38 eythian <-++ 11:38 eythian @karma 11:38 huginn eythian: Highest karma: "cait" (387), "Joubu" (345), and "tcohen" (248). Lowest karma: "ie" (-31), "failed" (-28), and "<-" (-26). You (eythian) are ranked 4 out of 630. 11:38 drojf wahanui++ 11:38 drojf @karma LibraryClaire 11:38 huginn drojf: Karma for "LibraryClaire" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6. 11:38 drojf LibraryClaire++ 11:39 druthb @karma druthb 11:39 huginn druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. 11:39 drojf druthb! 11:39 drojf if we had a counter for "druthb!" … :) 11:40 * LibraryClaire resists singing Boy George 11:41 druthb drojf! 11:47 oleonard Hi all 11:51 druthb hi, oleonard 11:53 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 12:52 drojf oleonard++ # fighting off marcedit questions ;) 12:53 oleonard I'm not just being a grouch, I genuinely think people could better help elsewhere! 12:53 oleonard /also/ being a grouch. 12:56 * druthb is being a grouch also. 12:58 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 12:58 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 25.0°C (1:50 PM BST on August 18, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 12:58 eythian @wunder ams 12:58 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 23.7°C (2:49 PM CEST on August 18, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 12:59 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 12:59 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on August 18, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 13:00 drojf who is gonna get a heatwave next week? 13:00 * drojf is 13:00 drojf yay. now that my body adjusted to autumn 13:00 eythian we're in the middle of it here right now apparently. 13:00 drojf lol 13:00 eythian you can tell because the number starts with a 2 13:00 drojf we will have > 30. they say 13:00 drojf :/ 13:01 eythian shoulda visited amsterdam 13:02 drojf :( 13:02 drojf i want to. but no time 13:02 drojf how is amsterdam in winter? 13:02 drojf probably more of a marcelr question 13:03 marcelr not that much different from north germany i guess? 13:03 drojf attractivity level medium 13:04 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:04 drojf but i guess your bike paths are cleaned from ice and snow :) 13:04 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 22.2°C (9:04 AM EDT on August 18, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 13:05 marcelr winters with ice and snow? 13:05 eythian drojf: last winter was apparently very mild so my perceptions may be coloured. 13:05 marcelr real winters? 13:05 eythian there was no ice nor snow in amsterdam 13:06 marcelr like that one in 1942? 13:06 eythian Not sure it even went below 0. 13:06 drojf ha 13:06 drojf ok 13:06 drojf then it's different from northern germany 13:06 drojf attractivity level rising 13:07 marcelr medium plus 13:07 drojf do you have a special winter drink? like glühwein or glögg? 13:07 eythian http://www.weer.nl/verwachting/14dagen/nederland/amsterdam/1812872/ <-- the next week actually looks a bit alright, except the rainy patches. 13:07 drojf (without cheese please) 13:07 marcelr tulips 13:07 eythian drojf: I think they just stole glühwein, at least I saw it around a bit. 13:07 eythian they drink it out of clogs though 13:08 drojf oh a way to make glühwein even worse. awesome :P 13:09 LibraryClaire gluehwein is amazing 13:09 drojf eythian: we should have some in a windmill 13:10 eythian drojf: no, you misunderstand. The clogs are made of cheese! 13:10 drojf LibraryClaire: if by amazing you mean tons of headache 13:10 eythian And are worn in windmills! 13:10 eythian Something something tulips! 13:10 LibraryClaire drojf: I've not had that problem with it :D 13:10 drojf clogs made from cheese. that's were the käsefuß was invented. i see 13:11 drojf LibraryClaire: it's usually cheap wine and cheap booze. at least if you go to a christmas market around here. may have been different in southern germany 13:12 drojf (or where your glühwein experience comes from) 13:13 eythian It was pretty cheap plonk in the christmas markets here too 13:14 eythian When I moved into my apartment in December, there was an olieballen truck parked on a nearby corner. I was sad when it vanished in January, I didn't realise it wasn't a permanent fixture. 13:15 drojf heh 13:16 eythian but, pepernoten are back in the supermarkets already, so maybe the olieballen truck will be unseasonably early too. 13:16 eythian I can hope. 13:20 marcelr eythian: zijn ook de kluts kwijt 13:20 marcelr btw: oliebollen please 13:21 eythian marcelr: I'm sure you say that every year when you start hearing christmas music in September :) 13:21 eythian err, bollen, ja 13:22 drojf what is the difference between bollen and ballen? 13:22 eythian one is spelt right 13:22 drojf i remember gehaktballen. or is that only in belgium? 13:22 drojf i think i have seen it there 13:23 drojf https://www.rtvnh.nl/nieuws/182498/ballen-versus-bollen-gedoe-over-nieuw-voetbalcomplex-in-de-egmonden 13:24 eythian I think bal is more like ball, bol is more like sphere, or something along those lines. 13:27 marcelr drojf it is indeed gehaktbal and oliebol; as well as oliedom en amsterdam :) 13:28 drojf marcelr: is it a vowel harmony thing? 13:28 marcelr let sing it 13:28 drojf lol 13:29 marcelr appelflap 13:29 eythian appelflap met appelsap 13:29 marcelr no 13:29 marcelr btw appelbol 13:30 eythian heh 13:30 marcelr google it 13:30 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/1n6mH4N.jpg 13:31 eythian why am I not surprised. 13:31 marcelr and bamibal 13:31 eythian Unsurprisingly, the only articles on wikipedia about it are in nederlands and polski. 13:31 marcelr eythian: de bollen are always sweet and de ballen are not ;) 13:32 eythian important to know :) 13:32 drojf ha 13:32 drojf interesting 13:32 wahanui interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad 13:32 marcelr have to go 13:33 eythian also, bitterballen will burn your mouth out of your head 13:34 drojf why? 13:34 eythian they're basically deep-fryed nuclear material, as far as I can tell. 13:35 eythian deep-fried in the sun, that is. 13:35 drojf lol 13:35 eythian like, inside the sun 13:35 drojf ok i thought chili burn like, not temperature 13:35 eythian no, temperature. 13:35 drojf you could wait until they are colder… but that may be against the law 13:35 eythian I think about 3,000° is the standard serving temperature. 13:36 drojf served on lead plates? 13:36 eythian no, you see, they're surrounded by a layer of insulation. 13:36 eythian probably asbestos or something similarly fireproof 13:36 drojf ah. lead 13:36 drojf lol 13:36 drojf they do like deep frying stuff 13:37 eythian yep 13:53 oleonard Don't anyone challenge my country's supremacy in the realm of deep frying everything http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/recipe/fried-oreos-rule-fairground-6798288 13:57 LibraryClaire oh my word 13:58 LibraryClaire I hear rumours of the deep fried mars bar in Scotland, but have never seen one. I have friends who claim they've had them 13:59 Joubu I tested that! 13:59 Joubu (well, just a quarter) 13:59 LibraryClaire oooh :D 14:00 LibraryClaire was it... nice? 14:00 Joubu not really 14:00 LibraryClaire lol 14:00 Joubu too heavy 14:00 Joubu (not a surprise :)) 14:00 LibraryClaire I imagine it to be some kind of molten caramel sugar death snack 14:02 Joubu I think my brain decided to forget this tasting moment 14:02 LibraryClaire hahaha 14:03 LibraryClaire probably safest 14:35 eythian LibraryClaire: we had them in NZ too. I did half of one once. 14:35 LibraryClaire eythian: good effort 14:40 tcohen drojf? 14:40 wahanui drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! 14:40 tcohen are you going to sign the nightly repo? 14:40 tcohen or should I workaround it in kohadevbox? 14:41 drojf tcohen: no plans to do that 14:41 tcohen alright 14:41 drojf i could only use a key without passphrase. i dont see much win 14:41 tcohen besides making life easier for the kohadevbox maintainer? 14:41 tcohen :-P 14:41 drojf and atm no time to play with them 14:41 drojf if you need it, i can do it. but not very soon 14:42 mveron Hi #koha 14:43 tcohen drojf, I can just use a shell command with --force if needed, just prefered a cleaner solution 14:43 LibraryClaire hi mveron :) 14:43 mveron hi LibraryClaire :-) 14:43 * mveron waves to cait and drojf 14:43 liw LibraryClaire, when I tried a 1/4 deep fried Mars bar in Edinburgh, it tasted like fish (they fried in the same oil as fish and chips) 14:44 LibraryClaire liw: niiiiiiiiice... :/ 14:45 * cait waves 14:46 drojf liw: that sounds interesting 14:47 liw drojf, I sign my code.liw.fi/debian apt repo on my laptop (with reprepro), then publish that via rsync to the actual server, in case that helps 14:48 drojf liw: that is what i do with the official packages. but the nightlies are done nightly (heh) and i won't sign three packages every morning 14:49 drojf the automation part is less cool when it is unautomated ;) 14:49 liw drojf, :) 14:58 tcohen drojf, I managed to make it work in a kohser way 14:58 drojf tcohen: like how? 14:59 tcohen like this: https://snag.gy/eg1QOc.jpg 14:59 drojf ah. nice. did not know that works 15:00 * tcohen wasn't confident about the apt_repository ansible's module 15:00 tcohen but it just puts whatever value you give a variable 15:01 tcohen here: https://snag.gy/NzYiuI.jpg 15:01 tcohen sorry 15:01 tcohen anyway, kohadevbox is now ready 15:02 tcohen using nightly packages 15:11 drojf tcohen: nice. and the additional patches are not necessary anymore, they are in master now 15:11 drojf so it's a true nightly ;) 15:11 * tcohen is ware ;-) 15:13 tcohen btw, awesome work with the nightly packages 15:14 drojf it was fun, but took much longer than it should have :P 15:27 drojf later #koha 15:28 morgane bye #koha 15:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16615: Update OPACSearchForTitleIn to access openlibrary.org via https <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a7266cd0d12f8933e9598a4e954ecd2977b89b8> / Bug 16615: Follow up - missed a spot <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0ac389c1ec5422795bd6976a29e140a945f967d> / Bug 16615: Open Library API fails for full-site-SSL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha 15:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16955: Do not clear from cache when adding a new framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84812129c979557cd2232c3a8b5b0f01c368a634> / Bug 16996: (follow-up) Do not explode if mandatory fields are missing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cd1891ffe5903a09e2deb04e852e967a2187ba0> / Bug 16996: Do not explode if mandatory fields are missing <http://git.koha-c 15:54 nitc We are trying to setup KOHA with remote db. 15:56 nitc We are trying to setup KOHA with remote db. In the koha wiki, for debian we are asked to create /etc/mysql/my.cnf but there are no such instructions for ubuntu. Please help. 16:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17117: Patron personal details not displayed unless branch update request is... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb449aaede3f23ee71e9e50286a26035bb3ef640> / Bug 17124: Fix tests in DecreaseLoanHighHolds.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bc34e31e9c371d8f60a074f13e933d15a31e20e> / Bug 17097: [QA Follow-up] Exit after redirect <http://git.koha-community.org/ 16:01 gaetan_B bye 16:06 kidclamp nice catch on bug 16834 Joubu - I was looking all over and missed that 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16834 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Changing the "Set Inventory Date to" date doesn't do anything, date last seen always defaults to current date. 16:07 Joubu kidclamp: yes, it was tricky! 16:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17107 - Add ident and Identifier-standard to known indexes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4884f3a00a99c959059b7d12544c271a1e1ab616> / Bug 17095: (bug 16849 follow-up) Fix regression if patron does not exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ec898b401670c822e159e3ae6f0e0ecb36bc789> / Bug 17009: Speed up the framework duplication <http://git.koha-community. 16:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17106 - DataTables patron search defaulting to 'starts_with' - doc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=29b4ee5c74949d9706387b1d02b858cd697a57d6> / Bug 16741 - Remove dead code "sub itemissues" from C4/Circulation.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97552074f028eefe81d27a4cba681bd5f0f1cd95> / Bug 17100: Restore previous logic <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw 16:35 Joubu khall: bug 16686 comment 34, are you sure it was 16272? 16:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16686 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Fix "Item in transit from since" in Holds tab 16:35 khall Joubu: haven't submitted the followup yet 16:35 Joubu khall: heh ok :) 16:36 Joubu I was trying to recreate the failure, but it worked for me 16:37 khall Joubu: ok, it's up 16:39 Joubu khall: Are you sure about the bug number? 16:39 Joubu 16272? 16:39 khall Bug 16272 [QA Followup] - Indexer fails on indexing temparary testing records 16:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Transform checkout from on-site checkout to regular checkout 16:42 Joubu khall: t/db_dependent/Koha/Items.t is not added by 16272 16:42 oleonard khall: Can you show me an example of where Koha::Biblio->subtitles is used? 16:42 Joubu oleonard: Koha/Biblio.pm:my @subtitles = $biblio->subtitles(); 16:43 Joubu sorry, it's the pod :-/ 16:43 Joubu but it's how it's used: my $biblio = Koha::Biblio->find(42); my $subtitles = $biblio->subtitles; 16:44 oleonard Looks like it's not actually used anywhere yet? 16:45 Joubu in one test: t/db_dependent/Koha/BiblioUtils.t 16:46 Joubu oleonard: it's used in templates 16:47 Joubu opac-user: [% FOREACH subtitl IN RESERVE.biblio.subtitle %] 16:47 Joubu +s! 16:55 meliss back 16:58 Joubu FYI: I applied 16686 and 16272 without your QA followup and the tests pass 16:59 Joubu khall: ^ 16:59 Joubu have to run, see you tomorrow #koha 16:59 khall k 17:10 nitc hi 17:10 wahanui kia ora, nitc 17:11 nitc hi 17:11 nitc How do I run the indexer manually? 17:16 nitc When I try to run the rebuild_zebra.pl, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23068009/ 17:58 oleonard nitc: How did you install Koha? 18:25 drojf evening 18:33 cait hello 18:33 wahanui hola, cait 18:36 drojf hi cait 19:03 * kidclamp *clamp* *clamp* 19:16 cait clamp? 19:21 kidclamp was just being silly 19:21 kidclamp (and meant to be in #bywater :-) ) 19:27 * andreashm waves 19:57 barton jessem: I just called Monica back one more time -- drumroll please.... rt 37054 19:57 barton oops, wrong channel. 19:58 JesseM :D 20:00 cait :) 20:06 bag @seen oleonard 20:06 huginn bag: oleonard was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <oleonard> nitc: How did you install Koha? 20:10 andreashm cait: yet another question for you - for automatic renewals, if we set the "no renewal before" to 0, will it then renew at the last day of the loan period? Or will it simply not work? 20:10 cait hm 20:11 cait i dunno ) 20:11 cait what i would test maybe - if you set it to 0 without automatic, can you renew? 20:11 cait then i'd probably say it should work that way... but only one way to make entirely sure 20:12 andreashm because we have set that. and our automatic renewals are not working. looking for possible problems. 20:13 andreashm but I'll check your suggestion! thanks 20:17 cait maybe also check bugzilla 20:20 andreashm looking now actually 20:20 cait if you use ALL at the beginning of your search term you can se older closed bugs too 20:21 cait i know there was some discussion about date calculation somewhere 20:22 andreashm ok thanks 20:37 andreashm cait: bug 14101 seem to indicate that a zero in no renewals before should work. 20:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14101 major, P5 - low, ---, h.meissner.82, CLOSED FIXED, auto renewal is tied to 'no renewal before' 20:38 cait hm really not sure then 20:38 andreashm I'll look for other issues then 20:38 cait HN 20:38 cait HM 20:38 cait other thought 20:38 cait are there fines on the items that don't get renewed? 20:39 cait are your cronjobs running in the right sequence? 20:39 cait i have a long standing bug for that somewhere... auto renew - fines - overdue notices 20:39 cait if fines runs before auto renew a fine could block the renewal dpeending on your other configuration 20:40 drojf bug 11144 20:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11144 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, In Discussion , Fix sequence of cronjobs: automatic renewal - fines - overdue notices 20:47 andreashm ciat: yes, I saw that bug too. Not sure about the sequence of cronjobs. will ask. 20:49 andreashm cait I meant. =) 20:54 andreashm as always, thanks for your help. 20:54 andreashm cait++ 20:54 cait yw 20:54 cait was it the sequence? 20:58 andreashm idunno 20:58 andreashm hope so. 20:59 andreashm will probably get an answer tomorrow 20:59 andreashm Hm. Bug 17058 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17058 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Automatic renewals broken when BorrowerRenewalPeriodBase is set to current day 20:59 andreashm Is this only for 3..22? 21:03 andreashm (As indicated in Version)