Time Nick Message 21:25 mveron Good night / daytime #koha 21:19 * hortlibrarian does a happy dance 21:19 hortlibrarian huzzah I imported from OCLC into ABLE 21:16 wizzyrea it's sunny here :D 21:10 mveron Rain came in horizontally here... 21:09 cait yep 21:09 bag BOOM 21:09 cait it's loud :) 21:09 mveron cait: I see the thunderstorm on te radar above Konstanz... Seems to be the same that hit Allschwil earlier... 21:05 hortlibrarian I was able to get Z-link working for OCLC 21:05 hortlibrarian for OCLC Z39.50 searching 21:05 hortlibrarian also I can't figure out how to get the z-link mapping to work 21:04 cait hm not at the weatherstation apparently 21:03 huginn cait: The current temperature in LuisenstraÃŸe, Konstanz, Germany is 21.7°C (11:02 PM CEST on August 17, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 21:03 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:00 cait mveron-away: thunderstorm just arrived 21:00 hortlibrarian but not sure how to do this Zebra stuff 21:00 hortlibrarian I just like computers and am good with searching 20:59 * hortlibrarian is not the IT Librarian 20:59 hortlibrarian bag: that is Greek to me 20:55 bag once you uncomment those sections in the koha-conf.xml and restart zebra - you can :) 20:54 hortlibrarian and get in 20:54 hortlibrarian I was just hoping I could plunk in a host address and port 20:54 hortlibrarian hmm yea makes sense 20:54 wahanui somebody said zebra was a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses 20:54 hortlibrarian what is zebra 20:53 hortlibrarian wow that is greek to me haha 20:50 hortlibrarian thank you 20:50 hortlibrarian oooh okay 20:43 bag hortlibrarian: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Koha_as_a_Z39.50_server try that 20:39 bag sorry really slow internet connection currently - trying to find the page you need 20:38 bag yes but you’ve got to turn it on ;) 20:35 hortlibrarian for this ABLE stuff? 20:35 hortlibrarian but is there a way to go into our ILS as well? 20:34 hortlibrarian so we import from OCLC 20:34 hortlibrarian we use the Z39.50 search for cataloging items 20:34 hortlibrarian yea I just started checking the wiki now 20:34 bag or in there for turing on your z-server 20:34 wahanui it has been said that wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org 20:34 bag wiki? 20:34 hortlibrarian http://ablein.hfgroup.com/com/ProgrammingConcepts/Able/Help/R6-zlink.htm 20:34 hortlibrarian here's what ABLE wants 20:34 bag you could start there hortlibrarian 20:33 wahanui manual is probably at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 20:33 bag manual? 20:33 hortlibrarian Hello I'm looking for some help, I want to connect my Koha ILS through a Z-Link connection in ABLE (a database used for binding prep from HF Group) and I'm looking ofr information on the host and port address for my ILS 19:47 agoforth How do people usually catalog publisher data? Is there some way to make the Corporate Name authority work or do I have to do something else? 19:47 agoforth I'm having trouble figuring out how to catalog publisher data in Koha. It seems like MARC fields 260$a, 260$b, and 260$c are what I want, but I also want to make the publisher name and place an authority value. It seems like I could use the Corporate Name authority type and fill in the 110$a and 110$c subfields, but then the data gets put into the subfields backwards in the MARC record of the book. 18:56 mveron Hi cait 18:56 cait hi mveron-away :) 18:55 mveron-away Good evening / daytime #koha 18:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14642 - DBRev 16.06.00.015 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=090c0fc6c49e448b1ee506808e5f157c4ba88414> / Bug 14642: Make sure the log will be written only if the hold has been deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4a08cad608b8b8aebfebd5a6e058554a7b4bf59> / Bug 14642: (QA followup) Add tests for Koha::Hold->delete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= 18:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16829 - DBRev 16.06.00.014 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0caed05779b886229d2a02c168bdb38453c67bb4> / Bug 16829: Unit tests for logaction's 'interface parameter' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a7aaf1339247689405e769349faaca6fe359950> / Bug 16829: DBIx update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25cdf478958b4fd6c0e6d2510dce49 18:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14844: Corrupted storable string. When adding/editing an Item, cookie LastCreated... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9237fe676336f5908a9acc26a3b70b70d25602ae> / Bug 17103 - Google API Loader jsapi called over http <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fcd32a75c41c7815a883cc4952899ea24045b3c> / Bug 17084 - Automatic debian/control updates (master) <http://git.k 17:30 kidclamp brb 17:23 archer121 Thanks for trying to help, oleonard. 17:21 oleonard Sorry I don't know anything about that archer121 17:20 archer121 oleonard: Should I be setting up a new instance? What I am trying to do is to create a readonly mirror of the koha server. 17:13 oleonard If you're setting up a new instance, you have to run the web installer via the staff client 17:13 oleonard archer121: It looks like you're hitting the OPAC, not the staff client. 16:59 archer121 is there some other place I need to be looking? 16:59 archer121 /var/log/koha/koha_nitc/intranet-error.log has nothing 16:58 kidclamp not sure off top of my head, anything in the koha logs? 16:57 archer121 nope, I get the error when I do that 16:57 kidclamp do you get the installer if you access via the intranet archer121? 16:56 archer121 would someone please help me out with this? 16:55 archer121 am* 16:55 archer121 I ama trying to set up a second koha server with readonly database access to the main koha server on a Ubuntu 14.04 system. So I did the create-db, created the table and user on the main server, ran populate-db, but I get this error message when I try to access the koha website: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23065160/ 16:53 archer121 hi 16:05 kidclamp thanks 16:04 oleonard Yes I would agree with that change if it was clear visually that the menu worked differently than the "More" one. 16:03 kidclamp oleonard: would you agree with the change is what I should have asked :-) 16:03 rocio definitely. there's nothing like it 16:03 nengard after a week away from my babies I needed the puppy love 16:03 rocio oh that is precious! 16:03 nengard it was so much fun 16:03 nengard rocio those are my friend (at Red Hat) Gina's poms and they were so happy to see me that they climbed all over me 16:02 oleonard kidclamp: Seems like it should be possible since you can do it with buttons (split buttons) 16:02 rocio was about to ask you about the poms! 16:01 rocio and there's Bailey in a sink! I love it when cats do that 16:01 nengard and he is!! He grew so fast 16:01 nengard The poms in those pics are not mine hehe 16:01 cait bailey looks all grown up too 16:01 nengard Coda passed in April and Beau was lonely 16:01 rocio I saw the pic of the pups on your bed, taking over the whole thing lol 16:01 nengard yes cait 16:00 nengard For others: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard 16:00 cait a new dog? 16:00 rocio YES!!! she's beautiful!!! sweet Ariel!! 16:00 nengard I miss you too 16:00 rocio YOU are!! I miss you!! 16:00 cait i like that idea 16:00 nengard rocio did you see my new fluffy baby? 16:00 nengard rocio, you are so cute :) hehe 16:00 kidclamp oleonard: do you think we could make the dropdown for search only show if you click the arrow and have the 'Search' link still go directly to the Adv. Search page? 15:59 rocio yaaay!! 15:59 rocio :-) 15:59 nengard LOL 15:59 wahanui somebody said nengard was the queen of documentation. 15:59 rocio nengard!!!!!!!!!! 15:58 nengard rocio!!!!! 15:53 oleonard archer121: Yes, it's called opacuserlogin 15:53 archer121 If so it would be okey to make the koha system public. 15:53 archer121 oleonard: Is there a system preference that will completely disable OPAC login? 15:36 amyk i am so happy to hear it! :) 15:35 nengard amyk i'm doing awesome!! 15:26 morgane bye #koha 15:25 archer121 I see. Thanks for the hint. 15:24 drojf so you would have to setup a new apachje config for the existing site 15:24 drojf archer121: those are not compatible. if you install koha, it will deinstall that package 15:23 amyk how ya doing nengard? 15:23 nengard hi amyk 15:23 archer121 drojf: I don't see that package listed in dpkg -l. But I see this: apache2-mpm-prefork 15:21 drojf so you should check what is installed now 15:20 drojf archer121: koha uses libapache2-mpm-itk to allow multiple instances. if you are using a different apache engine, that will probably lead to problems 15:19 amyk hi nengard! 15:12 nengard :) 15:11 JesseM hiya nengard 15:11 nengard tgoat just saying :p 15:10 nengard peek a boo 15:10 nengard jessem 15:10 archer121 I already have a running ubuntu 14.04 machine with apache installed and running. Is it okey to install koha on this system? I am asking this because the instructions in koha wiki is to install ubuntu server and then not install apache/mysql before isntalling koha. 15:06 archer121 oleonard: Alright, thanks! 15:03 oleonard He crashed his IRC client by pasting too many heart emojis at once. 15:03 nengard uh oh i scared jessem away 15:01 nengard I couldn't leave you all - you're my family 15:01 nengard I told my team I'm gonna keep working on Koha documentation 15:01 nengard I'm so sorry - but I'm not gone!! I'm still here 15:01 * oleonard indicates the devastation all around. 15:01 nengard LOL 15:01 oleonard Everything has fallen apart without you nengard. Just look at this place. 15:01 nengard my new team isn't as big on IRC and I miss chatting with folks every day 15:00 nengard how's things? 15:00 nengard hiya oleonard 15:00 nengard now I can be in here all day :) hehe 15:00 kidclamp hah! 15:00 nengard DUH 15:00 kidclamp huzzah! 15:00 nengard it was a space ..... 15:00 nengard kidclamp, i got it working on my irc client 15:00 oleonard Hi nengard! 15:00 nengard hola all 15:00 kidclamp hiya nengard 14:58 oleonard archer121: I don't know how to advise you on that, but I do think worrying about the OPAC being a security risk is not necessary. 14:57 oleonard archer121: If you're talking about limiting the OPAC to an intranet, it seems like you could do something with your Apache setup to accomplish that without creating a separate Koha server 14:54 archer121 We just set up koha. currently we have just setup the username and password to be the same. We plan to roll out user login and those advanced features only in a later stage. 14:53 LibraryClaire :) 14:53 kidclamp Hi LibraryClaire 14:53 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp 14:53 * kidclamp waves 14:52 oleonard archer121: You could require that users of the OPAC log in before they can use it. 14:50 archer121 And we don't want anyone from outside the intranet to use these facilities. 14:48 oleonard archer121: Making your OPAC read-only will prevent the creation of lists, holds, patron modification requests, patron self-registration, etc. 14:48 archer121 Maybe he is not very keen to make the koha system public. 14:48 archer121 I really don't know. I am a student admin and my professor suggests that we do it like this. 14:47 oleonard Our OPAC has always been public. 14:47 oleonard What security problems do you think you'll have archer121? 14:46 archer121 We are asked to make our OPAC available publicly over the internet. Due to security reasons, it was decided to set up a separate koha server for this purpose. We are planning to give this koha instance readonly access to the main koha database. What go you guys think about this? Is there a better/safer way to do this? 14:44 vfernandes can anyone help me starting plack on Ubuntu? 14:43 archer121 hi, 14:37 tubaclarinet drojf: thanks :-) 14:36 drojf so when i add a patron, the save button is now floating on top, but when i set the permissions, it is at the bottom? hmm 14:35 drojf that seems like something google would know how to do 14:34 tubaclarinet but i still need to set up a spf record on our domain :-( 14:33 tubaclarinet cait and drojf: I think that i have changed all applicable email adds in koha appropriately- thanks 14:30 cait there are matching prefs too - for the e-mais not sent from the branch email address 14:29 tubaclarinet i'm tweaking the branch records now... 14:28 cait if you don't want to end up in spam 14:28 cait i think return-path is also a critical one 14:27 tubaclarinet cait: thank you, yes i changed the branch email add and koha admin email add this morn 14:27 cait we have a noreply@... that is the 'branchemail' and kohaadmin... and a return-path and only reply to is from the library 14:26 cait that's how we do it 14:26 cait i think either that - or changing your branchemail to be from the domain you send from and use the other email fields like reply-to for the library's address 14:26 tubaclarinet drojf: i submitted support ticket to BWS, but haven't heard back from them yet 14:21 tubaclarinet I spoke with a colleague at a lib which was also blacklisted by hotmail and creating a spf record was 1 of the step to remedy problem 14:19 tubaclarinet yes, we have a domain (basinlibraries.org) which is diff than BWS' domain 14:19 cait it's the main reason you can now specify a different reply-to and return-path address in koha 14:19 cait ashimema has put some notes ont he wiki https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MRenvoize/Email 14:18 cait mail servers don't like it when your from/sender e-mail is a different domain than the mail server... something like that 14:17 tubaclarinet cait: do tell 14:17 cait different domain thing? 14:17 cait hm i think i know what it is 14:17 drojf do BWS know? that sounds like a problem that not only you will have then 14:15 tubaclarinet drojf: our instance of koha is hosted by BWS & I need to convince hotmail that mail sent from BWS server is from us 14:15 cait drojf: probably not... 14:12 drojf tubaclarinet: that does not sound like a koha problem 14:10 drojf is there a law against line breaks in bibliographic records? because there should be 14:08 tubaclarinet can anyone help me with this? 14:08 tubaclarinet Good morn everyone. we got blacklisted by hotmail & now i'm trying to create a spf record on our domain. 14:07 vfernandes plack works on Ubuntu Server 16.04? 13:45 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 13:35 * cait waves 13:33 oleonard Hi all 13:09 vfernandes plack is giving the following error: Response needs to be 3 element array, or 2 element in streaming at /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Plack/Middleware/Lint.pm line 112 11:37 marcelr :) 11:37 LibraryClaire hi marcelr :) 11:37 marcelr hi #koha 10:09 vfernandes i don't even know what's causing the problem: Apache, MySQL, Koha, Perl... :/ 10:09 vfernandes thanks anyway cait :) 10:08 cait sorry, no idea 10:07 vfernandes these differences are huge 10:07 vfernandes the same paged called from opac-search.pl HTML -> +- 3s 10:07 vfernandes http://catalogo2.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-image.pl?thumbnail=1&biblionumber=74781 -> 0.5s 10:06 vfernandes but the code is very simple... only reads a file from the filesystem and builds the HTML 10:05 vfernandes yes 10:05 cait hm is that a custom page? 10:04 vfernandes the same paged called from opac-search.pl HTML -> 3/4s 10:04 vfernandes http://catalogo2.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-lastdocuments.pl -> 1.7s 10:03 vfernandes yes... specially when called from another .pl 10:01 cait are specific pages apart from covers slow? 09:43 vfernandes updating didn't solve the problem 09:28 vfernandes ok... I will update from koha 3.22.6 to koha 3.22.9 09:24 cait but they will probably tell you to use the latest 3.22.x as a start - there have been security fixes and speed improvement stuff i am quite sure 09:23 cait it's quiet in here today - maybe try again a bit later 09:22 cait sorry, wrong person to talk to 09:22 vfernandes How I can activate Koha cache? 09:22 vfernandes but I don't think is that 09:22 vfernandes *one installation 09:21 vfernandes I can update on installation 09:21 cait 3.22.9 - so yours is 3 months old already again 09:21 cait there has been work on improving speed 09:21 cait you should probably try to update to the most recent 09:20 cait koha's caching 09:20 cait yeah, that's a different thing 09:20 vfernandes 3.22.6 09:20 vfernandes cait: i'm using Cache::Memory and cache on Apache 09:20 cait are you using the latest version of 3.22? 09:20 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Benchmark_for_3.22 09:20 cait Joubu, tcohen or someone else will be better to talk to about this 09:19 cait benchmarks? 09:19 cait 3.22 without caching and plack is slower 09:19 cait yes 09:18 vfernandes cait: besides opac-image having a problem other scripts are taking more time in Koha 3.22 09:16 vfernandes cait: i'm not using plack 09:15 cait Joubu: maybe you know? 09:15 cait i thin opac-image had some problem, but I don't remember what it was 09:15 cait vfernandes: are you using plack? caching? 09:13 vfernandes a simple SQL query to get a systempreference is more slow in Koha 3.22 09:09 vfernandes why such difference between these versions? 09:09 vfernandes koha 3.22 -> 2/3s each opac-image.pl script 09:09 vfernandes koha 3.20 -> 0.3ms each opac-image.pl script 09:08 vfernandes for example: OPAC search with 20 results -> 20 opac-image.pl scripts 09:07 vfernandes after many debug and installing koha 3.22 in Debian and in Ubuntu to test, Koha 3.22 has a poor performance comparing to Koha 3.20 and I don't know why 09:06 vfernandes I need some help 09:05 vfernandes hi #koha 08:30 LibraryClaire hi eythian 08:30 drojf hi eythian 08:29 eythian hi LibraryClaire, drojf, cait 08:29 LibraryClaire :) 08:29 drojf i see :) 08:27 cait ah... just like every nrmal day 08:25 drojf cait: why chaos? 08:25 drojf if i had to do packaging, i would want to migrate data 08:25 cait sorry... another chaos day 08:25 drojf but i want to play with packages 08:24 drojf must. migrate. data. 08:24 drojf hi cait. i said hi earlier :) 08:24 LibraryClaire hi cait! 08:24 LibraryClaire hi drojf! 08:24 cait mornign drojf :) 08:24 cait morning LibraryClaire 08:24 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire 08:23 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:43 wahanui hello, eythian 07:43 eythian hi 07:43 * sameeenz waves back 07:43 drojf hi cait 07:37 * cait waves 07:35 sameeenz Evening all 07:14 wahanui bidet, gaetan_B 07:14 gaetan_B hello 06:49 morgane hi #koha ! 06:43 drojf also, why do you not want to upgrade your whole system? 06:42 drojf koha-common_3.22.09_all.deb 02-Aug-2016 11:56 60M 06:39 drojf that sounds like the size of the file 06:30 reza am I doing something wrong? 06:30 reza but it's downloading 63mb of file 06:29 reza I'm trying to minor upgrade my koha from 3.2204 to the latest 3.22xx with apt-get install --only-upgrade koha-common 05:44 * cait waves 05:12 * dcook waves to cait 05:03 drojf hi dcook 05:02 dcook yo drojf 05:01 drojf morning #koha 03:39 reza thanks wizzyrea ;) 03:38 wizzyrea i *think* /var/spool/koha but I might be wrong 03:34 reza do you know where is the zebra indexing db folder? 03:33 reza I'm trying to move the Koha to amazon web service 03:32 reza cool 03:32 wizzyrea and stable becomes 16.11 and so on 03:32 reza so Nov is the next stable release 03:32 reza yeah. I see that 16 is out 03:31 wizzyrea so in november, that will change to 16.05 03:31 wizzyrea note that when a new major version is released, oldstable becomes the next version up 03:30 reza great. thank you 03:30 wizzyrea yep 03:30 reza looks good? 03:30 reza deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha oldstable main 03:29 wizzyrea series* 03:29 wizzyrea and that will pull from the 3.22 seris 03:29 reza critical point :D 03:29 wizzyrea so where it says "stable" change it to "oldstable" 03:29 reza oh, mine is in koha.list 03:28 wizzyrea others in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 03:28 wizzyrea some people put them in /etc/apt/sources.list 03:28 reza yes. I am using package 03:28 wizzyrea assuming you run from packages 03:28 wizzyrea wherever you put in the koha apt sources 03:27 wizzyrea config 03:27 wizzyrea it'll be in your apt confi 03:27 reza is oldstable in configuration? 03:27 wizzyrea and I don't think you want that :) 03:27 wizzyrea be careful when you do the upgrades, make sure your repo is set to oldstable, otherwise you'll do a full version upgrade! 03:26 wizzyrea no worries 03:26 reza :) thanks man 03:26 * wizzyrea knows all about it 03:26 wizzyrea as you do :) 03:26 reza yeah. I have to wait till library is closed :/ 03:25 wizzyrea very generously. 03:25 wizzyrea the packages will upgrade the schema, something like, generously, 10 minutes. 03:25 reza ;) 03:25 reza thank you 03:25 reza ah OK. 03:25 wizzyrea it'd be pretty short downtime 03:24 reza I mean the minor upgrade 03:24 reza can I do it without downtime? 03:24 wizzyrea and make sure that local covers are turned off if you're not using them 03:24 wizzyrea ah yeah, you'll want to do the minor upgrades 03:24 reza no. I'm using amazon 03:24 reza Koha version 3.2204000 03:23 wizzyrea and what version of Koha? 03:23 wizzyrea reza do you have local book covers? 03:20 reza My uname: Linux lib 3.19.0-64-generic #72~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 24 17:59:48 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 03:19 reza but when I use the opac to search it may take 40 seconds to show the results. Do you know what is the problem?? 03:18 reza Elapsed: 0.000647 03:18 reza records returned: 0 03:18 reza SearchResult-1: term=linux cnt=235 03:18 reza Number of hits: 235, setno 3 03:18 reza Search was a success. 03:18 reza Received SearchResponse. 03:18 reza Sent searchRequest. 03:18 reza Z> f linux 03:17 reza yaz client search result: 03:16 reza Hello, I have a problem with opac search. It's incredibly slow! i have 8gb of memory with 8 core. 148,133 biblioitems and running on Debian package Koha version 3.2204000. 45,097 borrowers.