Time Nick Message 22:56 drojf hm no perseids for me i guess 22:55 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 17.3°C (12:51 AM CEST on August 13, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 22:55 drojf @wunder txl 22:51 tcohen hi drojf 22:49 drojf hi tcohen 22:20 tcohen Joubu: pong 22:19 tcohen hiç 22:07 otinine shqiptar? 19:47 Tylathos Bye #koha :) 19:44 huginn 04Bug 14514: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , LocalHoldsPriority and the HoldsQueue conflict with each other 19:44 huginn barton: The operation succeeded. 19:44 barton @later tell wizzyrea can you take a look at https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14514#c18 ? thanks! 19:31 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded. 19:31 kidclamp @later tell mtompset I didn't get my license until I was 30 - I can understand hesitation :-) 19:30 mtompset Have a great weekend, kidclamp #koha. 19:30 mtompset I wish my wife would get her driver's license. 19:30 mtompset Well, chauffeur duty calls. 19:28 mtompset All my email is IMAP, so I'm good. :) 19:27 mtompset And none of my work was done locally during that time. 19:27 mtompset Thankfully, I had a 3 day old back up. 19:27 mtompset I just am recovering from computer crash this week. 19:26 kidclamp hopefully you are like me, a good theory will tide you over for the weekend, monday is for disappointing realities 19:25 kidclamp heh 19:25 mtompset But I'm not feeling conscious enough to test that theory. 19:24 mtompset I wouldn't be surprised if this ties in. 19:23 mtompset Because I was complaining to wizzyrea the other day about zebra facets not working. 19:23 * mtompset grins, "I know that feeling." 19:23 kidclamp I didn't test but general theory seems right 19:22 kidclamp as far is you can believe anything I say late on a friday afternoon 19:21 mtompset So the counter patch I propose makes sense then? 19:20 kidclamp i think that makes sense mtompset 19:14 kidclamp looking 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16746 major, P5 - low, ---, juan.sieira, In Discussion , Can not find duplicated authorities cataloguing a new one 19:12 mtompset What think you of bug 16746 -- my observation of the zebra and elastic search versions getting different parameters? 19:11 mtompset Greetings, kidclamp. 19:10 kidclamp Greetings mtompset 19:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:05 mtompset Greetings, @koha/ 19:05 * mtompset grins, "That's a nice song to sing." 19:04 huginn mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: * wizzyrea sing the package building song 19:04 mtompset @seen wizzyrea 17:14 gaetan_B bye 17:01 Tylathos drojf: oh i see. I will correct both :9 17:01 drojf do you want to change the info for the one that is there? you can just obsolete it and attach a new one from git bz 17:00 drojf or what do you mean? 17:00 drojf in BZ 17:00 drojf you can go to details and edit 16:59 drojf Tylathos: now it has kind of inconstistent behaviour between message types. some display a message when the checkin was successful (yours), others don't. for consistency i think it would be better to display it in the style that is used now. after checkin there is "Checked-in items" with a table. you could use the same style for the headline and just say that no items were checked in. or show the table and say what was not checked in explicitly, but 16:58 Tylathos drojf: is there a way to change the name of the attachment with git bz? 16:52 drojf oops 16:52 drojf right 16:52 drojf yeah 16:52 drojf oh 16:52 cait someone told me not to work :) 16:51 drojf cait: you can start QA :P 16:51 cait but Tylathos++ - doing well there it seems :) 16:51 cait :) 16:51 * cait let's drojf handle it 16:50 drojf Tylathos: you shoukd indicate it's a followup and what it changes /adds in the commit message 16:50 cait drojf: um no idea - some hide the column with jquery i think 16:50 Tylathos 17101 16:50 drojf Tylathos: yep, so people know there is more to signoff 16:50 * cait can take a look 16:50 wahanui hmmm... which bug number is it? 16:50 cait hm which bug number? 16:48 Tylathos drojf: should i change the status again, becaus of the new changes? (quit unsure and feeling stupid atm) 16:47 Tylathos wow -.-' git bz didn't take my last change, and displayed the compltly text again -.-' 16:37 drojf cait: so if i want to avoid that i have to block circulation people from borrower permissions? 16:36 cait drojf: i think the return from patron details misses some other things as well 16:31 Tylathos thats a good idea :) 16:30 drojf apart from that, it seems to work for me 16:29 drojf what you could do is add some kind of message when the anwer is "no". because atm there is nothing that indicates what happened after you click it 16:29 Tylathos i think they can also override holds in that case 16:29 drojf not your fault, it seems to be the general structure. just wondering 16:28 drojf but it seems weird to have a message in one place and not in the other. and in your case, people can override the whole quesion 16:27 Tylathos drojf: my first thought is that when you check in from the patron detail, the check in is made without calling the return.pl 16:21 drojf (found it while (testing Tylathos' bug but it's a general question) 16:20 drojf when i check in stuff from within patron details, the whole checkin message thing does not work. is it supposed to be like that? 15:47 Tylathos So now -.-' I know why at work mostly other persons do this kind of work for me :D 15:42 drojf i got it from the list of shared searches 15:42 drojf that worked for me 15:42 drojf https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&list_id=173201&namedcmd=3.x%20Unmaintained&remaction=run&sharer_id=12 15:41 drojf :( 15:41 oleonard Well then, I guess I can't share a saved search. 15:40 drojf :/ 15:40 drojf no 15:40 wahanui hey now now, sing this corrosion to me 15:40 oleonard How about now? 15:40 drojf The search named 3.x Unmaintained does not exist. 15:39 drojf same 15:39 oleonard yes 15:39 drojf oleonard: the same url? 15:39 drojf you can amend your patch and send it again 15:38 Tylathos Ah **** i forget to add sponsered by :D 15:38 oleonard drojf: Can you try it again? 15:37 Tylathos drojf: yes i was looking at the moment what to do next :D 15:37 drojf Tylathos: you should set the bug status to "needs signoff" 15:37 oleonard Maybe I shared it incorrectly. Anyone know what group I should share it with? editbugs, Koha, Testers? 15:36 oleonard :( 15:36 drojf from the devel list 15:36 drojf oleonard: your link gives me The search named 3.x Unmaintained does not exist. 15:36 Tylathos Yeah it worked :D 15:28 Tylathos kidclamp: thx ^^ 15:28 kidclamp much easier for attaching patches 15:28 kidclamp use this: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 15:28 Tylathos Good :) 15:28 kidclamp ignore the mailing patch part Tylathos 15:28 Tylathos is the part git send-email still necessary or should it be enough to push it to the bug at bugzilla? 15:27 Tylathos https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git <== im following this guide. 15:25 Tylathos he writes endlessly y :D 15:25 Tylathos i crashed my git i think :D 15:23 drojf testers love test plans 15:22 Tylathos writing the testplane :D it's annoying :D 15:20 * cait cheers Tylathos on 15:16 * drojf waits 15:09 Tylathos Yes! Now i'm ready to make my first patch ^^ (for koha) 15:00 * LibraryClaire grumbles 15:00 LibraryClaire Wishing I wasn't wearing jeans and a jumper. It was not this warm this morning 15:00 cait not so warm here currently 14:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Luisenstraße, Konstanz, Germany is 21.7°C (4:52 PM CEST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 14:59 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:59 LibraryClaire we're meant to have another 'heatwave' over the weekend 14:59 wahanui ouch! 14:59 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui 14:59 wahanui apparently is vitally important to librarians 14:59 LibraryClaire apparently 14:59 drojf you got all the summer 14:58 LibraryClaire eurgh 14:58 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 28.0°C (3:50 PM BST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 14:58 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 14:57 drojf not sure how that gif matches what i said but it's cute anyway 14:57 cait :) 14:57 wahanui http://cdn4.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/penguin.gif 14:57 drojf cait: go to bed 14:57 * drojf gives up on the cloud 14:57 drojf i think i don't want to know 14:53 drojf Output: /home/koha/yourlibrary/koharoot/koha-tmpl/cloud-subject.html 14:52 oleonard Nothing, I guess. 14:52 drojf oleonard: that is only a cronjob? what is the url in koha supposed to be? 14:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 35.1°C (10:48 AM EDT on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 14:48 oleonard @wunder 45701 14:48 drojf mostly word cloudy 14:48 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 20.7°C (4:41 PM CEST on August 12, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 14:48 drojf @wunder txl 14:47 drojf what have word clouds ever done for us? 14:47 * oleonard doesn't care about word clouds 14:46 drojf if you delete it you will find out 14:46 oleonard I would sooner delete cloud-kw.pl and close outstanding bugs related to it if I knew no one used it. 14:46 drojf if it is broken right now and nobody complained… koha does not need it anyway 14:45 drojf fly 14:45 drojf yes i thought ES could probably just do that in the fl 14:45 drojf you have to run a command line script to generate the file. and choose which field to use. AFAIR 14:45 eythian I think ES might let you access stuff to make word clouds. Don't quote me on that though. 14:42 oleonard Hey static site generators are all the rage these days 14:40 drojf sounds like tech of the future :P 14:40 oleonard The example conf file doesn't work for me so I'm not sure if it still works 14:40 oleonard Yes. Generates static HTML files 14:39 drojf i think i have used that somewhen 6 years ago. the word cloud thing? 14:38 oleonard I wonder if anyone still uses cloud-kw.pl 14:22 cait :) 14:20 LibraryClaire yay, fireworks 14:19 drojf nice 14:19 drojf oh nic 14:19 cait i hope I'll feel better tomorrow - we got the big fireworks on the lake tomorrow night 14:19 cait thx :) will try 14:19 drojf feel better! 14:18 LibraryClaire :( 14:18 * cait got a cold :( 14:18 cait yeah... time to go home and stay in bed 14:18 drojf early weekend? :P 14:17 drojf bye cait 14:17 LibraryClaire bye 14:17 cait bye all 13:52 Tylathos cait: thx ^^ 13:52 andreashm cait: good to know, danke! 13:51 cait the matching fails for us when zebra is down 13:51 cait andreashm: i agree with joy - it's done against indexes 13:51 * cait sends Tylathos cookies 13:50 Tylathos Yeah ^.^ my virtual machine is corrupt, and all work from yesterday is lost -.-' 13:49 talljoy yw 13:49 andreashm thanks talljoy 13:48 talljoy so it has to have something matched first. 13:48 talljoy my understanding of matchchecks is that you need to come up with a match based on the rules, then the matchcheck is the final check of the record it matched to the record you are importing. 13:48 talljoy we have had to add the 035 to the standard number indexes on sites where they need to match on the 035$a 13:47 talljoy I don't believe you can have matchcheck only rules. 13:47 talljoy ok 13:46 andreashm cait or talljoy, maybe? 13:39 andreashm (we would like to match using 035a, which is proving difficult) 13:39 andreashm and if it is possible to build a rule using only match checks, not having any match point? 13:39 andreashm my second question is then if required match checks match against zebra indexes or directly against the database? the documentation is unclear. 13:38 andreashm ok thanks 13:38 talljoy my understanding is that it only works for isbn 13:37 cait talljoy: does the normalization rule n the matching rules do something? 13:37 wahanui i think that is fine 13:37 talljoy whats that? 13:37 cait andreashm: i don't know it :) 13:37 cait talljoy: might know this 13:36 talljoy noice!! 13:36 druthb not much. lazy day off. :P 13:36 talljoy whats up druthb 13:35 talljoy hiya!! 13:35 * druthb sees talljoy, and waves frantically. 13:32 andreashm cait: well, for starters I'm wondering if there actually is a normalization rule? or if anything that is put into that field is useless? 13:25 * druthb gives wahanui a cookie 13:24 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. 13:24 cait what's the problem? 13:24 cait around... but not good 13:18 andreashm anyone around who is good at record matching rules? 12:50 * andreashm waves 12:49 kidclamp reading it over it looks good, but should test more too 12:49 Joubu kidclamp: feel free! :D 12:49 Joubu heh :) 12:48 kidclamp or we should just pass your bug :-) 12:48 kidclamp If I drop the ENV variables in to koha-plack it works, it should be possible to do that 12:47 Joubu :) 12:47 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 12:47 Joubu @later tell tcohen ping! 12:46 kidclamp creating a second instance with --use-memcached seems to have the same result 12:42 Joubu kidclamp: the koha-create cmd used by kohadevbox does not pass --use-memcached, it would be good to test if passing it correctly set it 12:41 kidclamp :-) 12:39 Joubu forget that, it's not useful 12:39 Joubu when I hit koha mainpage 12:38 Joubu Default caching system: memcached at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 514 12:38 Joubu but 12:38 Joubu on restarting plack 12:38 Joubu Selected caching system: Cache::Memory=HASH(0x26c8f20) at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 514. 12:38 Joubu kidclamp: I get: 12:35 oleonard Thanks Joubu I will take another look 12:34 kidclamp yeah, i set DEBUG=1 and the select caching system is Cache::Memory 12:33 Joubu oleonard: just answered, tell me if it's still not clear 12:30 Joubu kidclamp: put warn "IS CACHED!"; in Koha::Cache l.150 (just before the return) 12:29 Joubu kidclamp: it looks to work with my kohadevbox 12:20 kidclamp plackup seems to work fine 12:20 kidclamp hmm...USE_MEMCACHED set as yes in the koha-sites.conf, it looks like those envs still never come through to koha-plack though, at least I can't make it happen 12:18 Joubu It looks like it's what it does yes 12:15 kidclamp does that set envs so the package command works? 12:15 kidclamp joubu not sure - I was testing in kohadevbox so likely not, and I don't know on the other site we were testing 12:13 Joubu kidclamp: did you try to koha-create with --use-memcached? 12:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16579 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use separate memcached namespace for caching koha-conf.xml 12:11 kidclamp bug 16579 definitely is an improvement 12:10 kidclamp or you need to add the memcached envs into koha-plack 12:09 kidclamp Ah, so I am right that you can't use koha-plack and expect memcached 12:09 Joubu which contains 29 $ENV{MEMCACHED_SERVERS} = "localhost:11211"; 12:09 Joubu kidclamp: I use plackup with misc/plack/koha.psgi 12:09 kidclamp question for you, how do you go about getting memcache working with plack? 12:08 Joubu hi kidclamp :) 12:08 kidclamp Hi Joubu 12:07 Joubu oleonard: no I did not! 12:07 kidclamp hot but otherwise well 12:07 kidclamp hi LibraryClaire 12:07 oleonard Going fine kidclamp, how about you? 12:07 * LibraryClaire waves 12:06 kidclamp morning oleonard, how goes it? 12:06 oleonard Hi kidclamp 12:06 * kidclamp waves 11:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16763 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Remove the use of "onclick" from record matching rules form 11:56 oleonard Joubu: Did you see my question on Bug 16763? 11:56 marcelr bye #koha 11:54 LibraryClaire hi oleonard :) 11:52 oleonard Hi #koha 11:49 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded. 11:49 marcelr @later tell khall please put bug 15407 on your early push list; thx 11:45 Tylathos nice :D now my virtualbox won't work -.-' 11:00 cait I think so :) 10:59 drojf i hope he has another holiday :) 10:56 cait yeah 10:55 drojf didn't magnuse just say that a couple of weeks ago? 10:55 drojf huh? 10:54 magnuse have fun #koha - see y'all in a couple weeks! 10:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16942 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Confirm hold results in ugly error 10:28 Joubu marcelr: duplicate of bug 16942 I guess 10:26 marcelr Joubu: almost done but lunch goes first :) 10:20 Joubu marcelr: yep, will do 10:19 marcelr maybe open a report ? 10:19 marcelr ok can be it is not your change 10:19 Joubu marcelr: looks like a master bug 10:12 wahanui yep. 10:12 Joubu yep? 10:12 marcelr Reserves.t 10:12 marcelr Joubu: please help me again :) 10:08 marcelr wasn't it moved 10:08 marcelr on the test 10:07 Joubu marcelr: what kind of conflicts? use statements or more? 10:07 marcelr thx 10:07 Joubu marcelr: follow-up added, feel free to squash it with the original patch to clean the git log 10:04 marcelr Joubu: we will have some merge conflict with Ratings (the other one already in PQA) 10:02 marcelr easier while doing things in parallel 10:01 marcelr i am in the middle somewhere 10:01 Joubu k 10:01 marcelr no please add a follow-up 10:01 Joubu marcelr: I will amend the patch, ok for you? 10:01 marcelr ok you can also add it again 10:00 Joubu looks like a merge conflict issue 10:00 Joubu marcelr: I am not sure why GetName is gone actually 09:53 Joubu s/work/fun 09:48 marcelr ok Joubu; i have some more work coming for you ;) 09:45 Joubu marcelr: will submit a followup soon (~5min) 09:44 marcelr translatability is another topic 09:44 marcelr criteria loopfilter 09:43 marcelr it is just a <p> in the template 09:43 marcelr Joubu: I prefer just the string Patron category actually 09:40 marcelr somewhere else they put Query in 09:39 marcelr :) 09:39 marcelr i prefer foobar above cathash, that is sure 09:39 marcelr hmm 09:37 Joubu s/with/it 09:37 Joubu I can replace with with "foobar" if you like, but not sure it will be more relevant :) 09:37 Joubu it's just a string, so let it like it was before 09:37 marcelr the var does not exist ! 09:37 marcelr why not 09:36 Joubu marcelr: there is no change 09:34 marcelr i am in the second patch still 09:34 marcelr Joubu: please submit your change, I will have a look 09:32 Joubu marcelr: agreed? 09:19 Joubu So I guess it was expected, not to change the string (wherever it will be displayed) 09:18 Joubu marcelr: it's just a string actually :) 09:18 marcelr will examine your followup later :) 09:17 marcelr should have a better look, trusting you here 09:17 Joubu it seems that crit should be filled with the patron cat, don't you think? 09:17 marcelr at least pass {} :) 09:17 marcelr with something undefined? 09:16 drojf cat and hash. a winning combination 09:16 Joubu I understand the problem, but do not know how to fix it quickly 09:16 Joubu yes but it seems that we should keep it filled 09:16 marcelr where is cathash? 09:16 Joubu no :) 09:16 marcelr crit=>"\%cathash 09:15 marcelr you're kidding 09:15 Joubu marcelr: no idea what to do 09:08 magnuse :-) 09:07 * cait likes busy #koha 09:06 cait :) 09:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::Patron::Categories - part 2 09:05 marcelr Joubu: I will paste a small error on bug 15407; please solve it in a follow-up 08:54 Joubu no worries, I do not read what's going on there :) 08:53 drojf *testing 08:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Passed QA , Automatic debian/control updates (master) 08:53 drojf Joubu: sorry for spamming with bug 17084. i'm done soon, testint a few changes 08:12 magnuse moin drojf 08:01 drojf hi cait and magnuse 07:51 * LibraryClaire waves 07:46 * magnuse waves 07:44 LibraryClaire hi cait 07:43 * cait waves 07:41 LibraryClaire hi drojf 07:41 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire 07:40 LibraryClaire morning #koha 07:34 drojf morning #koha 07:27 marcelr hi cait gaetan_B 07:17 * cait waves 07:12 gaetan_B hello 06:45 marcelr :) 06:45 morgane hi marcelr 06:45 marcelr hi morgane 06:42 morgane hi #koha :) 06:39 marcelr hi #koha 05:38 dcook Ugh, I hate CRUD