Time  Nick            Message
04:46 cait            mag
04:46 cait            hm no magnuse
06:30 fridolin        hie
06:40 morgane         hi #koha!
06:49 gaetan_B        hello
07:21 marcelr         hi #koha
07:26 marcelr         hi magnuse
07:37 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
07:37 marcelr         hi LibraryClaire
07:37 LibraryClaire   hi marcelr :)
08:10 drojf           morning #koha
08:11 marcelr         hi drojf
08:12 drojf           hi marcelr
08:12 LibraryClaire   guten morgen drojf
08:12 drojf           guten morgen LibraryClaire
09:33 * cait          waves
09:33 LibraryClaire   morning cait
09:34 cait            morning LibraryClaire
09:42 Joubu           drojf: Is the patch on bug 17084 waiting for a signoff?
09:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, ASSIGNED , Nightly build bot bug
09:42 drojf           Joubu: yes. as you can clearly see from the status that i updated a second ago :P
09:43 drojf           oh no it clashed
09:43 drojf           now
09:45 drojf           hi cait
09:45 drojf           and Joubu :)
09:45 Joubu           hi #koha
09:46 Joubu           drojf: Is there a reason not to continue the 1 package per line structure in control[.in] files?
09:46 Joubu           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=54192
09:46 * cait          waves again
09:47 Tylathos        Hey Koha <waves>
09:47 * cait          waves some more
09:47 Tylathos        Is a patch medium or small, when just a new value can be written in the sql db?
09:48 drojf           Joubu: the most part is perl dependencies, they are added on the fly from the perl modules, listed one per line. those are misc and other ;) and it just was like that when i took over, so i added the font dep in the same style
09:48 cait            is it just a new option for an exiting pref or areal new entry?
09:48 Tylathos        new option :)
09:49 drojf           Joubu: it's a different part of the file which is not created by a script but added automatically
09:49 drojf           err
09:49 cait            hm small might be ok
09:49 drojf           added manually
09:49 Joubu           drojf: ok thanks
09:49 cait            does it include a database update script?
09:49 Tylathos        cait: not needed (i think)
09:50 eythian         happy birthday magnuse
09:50 magnuse         thanks \o/
09:50 Tylathos        oh happy birthday magnuse <set everybody such silly partyhad's on> ^^ And now party hard ^^
09:51 magnuse         \ô/
09:52 cait            heh
09:52 cait            happy birthday :)
09:52 cait            Tylathos: then small shoudl be fine
09:53 Tylathos        cait: thx ^^
09:54 LibraryClaire   magnuse: happy birthday :)
09:55 magnuse         thanx! thanx!
09:55 * Joubu         sends cheese to magnuse
09:56 drojf           happy birthday magnuse!
09:59 * cait          sends chocolate
10:06 Joubu           drojf: bug 14629 adds libbusiness-issn-perl, which is in jessie only. Should I add "nowheezy" in the keyword list or you prefer to do it yourself when it's pushed?
10:06 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14629 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add aggressive ISSN matching feature equivalent to the aggressive ISBN matcher
10:06 drojf           Joubu: please do
10:08 drojf           Joubu: it seems to be available for wheezy?
10:08 drojf           rmadison libbusiness-issn-perl
10:08 drojf           libbusiness-issn-perl | 0.91-2 | wheezy          | source, all
10:08 Joubu           https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stable&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libbusiness-issn-perl
10:08 Joubu           I used to check on packages.debian.org
10:09 drojf           when you follow the link it has wheezy too https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libbusiness-issn-perl
10:09 drojf           maybe their search is stupid
10:10 Joubu           ha!
10:10 drojf           or you searched for jessie :)
10:10 Joubu           https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libbusiness-issn-perl
10:10 Joubu           I see it there
10:10 Joubu           suite=stable!
10:14 Joubu           drojf: so if a patchset adds a deps, we wait for the bot to update control files?
10:14 Joubu           (sorry, too many questions)
10:16 drojf           Joubu: we push the patch the normal way and then the bot will pick it up. and either complain about a missing dependency (if it is not in jessie) or send a patch. if that works as expected for a while we could ask khall_away or bag to just push the control file updates when they appear
10:16 drojf           *push the patch: the one that adds the dep, not the control file
10:17 Joubu           yep ok
10:17 drojf           otherwise i would do the same thing the bot does, but manually and so not every day, but once a month or something. meaning packages would not work in between
10:18 drojf           it just updates apt and apt-file and then runs debian/update-control
10:18 drojf           and sends a patch for debian/control if there was a change which is not "EEEK" (unmet dependency)
10:19 drojf           i will add that for 16.05 and 3.22 too
11:42 Joubu           drojf: there are 2 EEEK on the last patch of bug 17084
11:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Passed QA , Nightly build bot bug
11:44 drojf           Joubu: oh thanks. that went to the wrong bug i think
11:45 drojf           i wanted ti set it uo for stable, that should not be there
11:45 drojf           i'll obsolete it
11:46 drojf           wow i suck at typing today
11:46 drojf           *wanted to set it up
11:48 drojf           oh yes i changed the bug number everywhere, just not in the git attach line :P
11:56 oleonard        Happy birthday magnuse!
12:31 magnuse         thanks oleonard
12:31 tcohen          morning
12:34 drojf           hola tcohen and oleonard
12:35 LibraryClaire   hi tcohen
12:36 tcohen          hi LibraryClaire
12:37 * cait          waves some again
12:37 cait            heh
12:37 cait            locating mistakes in xslt can be unfun
12:40 drojf           cait: same for pbuilder. want to switch?
12:44 cait            not really
12:44 cait            but grr
12:46 tcohen          drojf: is it possible that the missing master deps are on the stable pocket and not the unstable?
12:46 tcohen          (libswagger2 and mojo)
12:48 drojf           you mean the files are missing, not the declarations?
12:48 drojf           then i misunderstood you :) sorry
12:49 drojf           libswagger2-perl:
12:49 drojf           0.77-1~kohadev+1 0
12:49 drojf           500 https://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
12:49 drojf           that should be high enough
12:49 tcohen          the files are there, but are not declared to be available on the master/nightly pocket
12:50 tcohen          ah
12:50 * tcohen        will retry installing the nightly on kohadevbox
12:50 drojf           ah. the nightly server only has the koha-common packages. you need to use the regular repo together with it
12:50 drojf           otherwise i would have to repack everything
12:50 tcohen          yes, kohadevbox sets both repos, and gives the nightly higher priotiry
12:51 drojf           hm ok. then it should work as far as i can tell
12:51 tcohen          you just need to set koha_pin_custom_repo: true
12:52 drojf           libmojolicious-perl:
12:52 drojf           *** 6.15+dfsg-1~kohadev+1 0
12:52 drojf           500 https://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
12:53 tcohen          drojf: https://snag.gy/TagRK6.jpg
12:53 tcohen          vagrant up & get_some_coffee ; back to desktop
12:54 tcohen          hehe
12:54 drojf           tcohen: but that has the official repo disabled?
12:54 tcohen          nope
12:54 tcohen          sorry
12:54 tcohen          that's the user.yml file, that overrides the default file
12:55 tcohen          so no override for the default on the official repo
12:56 tcohen          https://snag.gy/tl7eaK.jpg
12:56 tcohen          i plan to change my nightly for yours
12:56 tcohen          *in favour of yours*
12:56 drojf           ah ok
12:56 drojf           now i get it
12:58 tcohen          drojf: if you are aware of deps that are not already packaged but required, please let me know so I update kohadevbox to use cpanm on them
12:58 tcohen          we might agree on such a workflow
12:59 drojf           i hope to get dependencies done before they are in master. which sould work if devs tell me about it when they add it and are not too fast with the qa process
12:59 drojf           *should
13:00 drojf           in theory, things with unmet dependencies should not be pushed. IMHO
13:03 tcohen          drojf: can u sign 16885?
13:03 tcohen          sorry, 16974
13:03 tcohen          well, maybe both
13:03 wahanui         maybe both are related
13:06 drojf           tcohen: i will try to test it tonight. code looks ok
13:08 tcohen          drojf: https://snag.gy/lUaxOu.jpg
13:09 tcohen          hahahahaha
13:09 wahanui         hmmm... hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask?
13:09 tcohen          bummer
13:09 tcohen          on pinning
13:09 tcohen          I set priority for the nightly repo to 610
13:09 tcohen          and community's to 10
13:10 tcohen          so libmojolicious is picked from debian's
13:10 drojf           ha
13:10 drojf           yeah
13:12 drojf           if you do not set any priority, it should just work, right? :P
13:13 tcohen          i'm not sure
13:13 tcohen          it might pick the master package from unstable?
13:14 oleonard        wahanui: forget hahahahaha
13:14 wahanui         oleonard: I forgot hahahahaha
13:14 drojf           it should use the ones with the highest number. which should be nightly. at least that is the idea. else it is an error
13:14 ashimema        remind me anyone.. can you configure the public z/sru server to hide the hidden items from results.. for instance remove any results where 942$n=1?
13:14 ashimema        my z config foo hasn't been stretched hard of late ;)
13:15 tcohen          i'd say you can accomplish that by using an XSLT
13:17 ashimema        coolios... I'd forgotten that the publix z server goes through XSLT for the output
13:17 * ashimema      tries to remember how this all fits together
13:18 tcohen          you can run more than the declared publicserver
13:18 tcohen          you can define your own on different sockets, with different XSLTs
13:18 tcohen          that'd be my approach
13:19 tcohen          i'm even thinking of removing Z39.50 support adn just stick to SRU (through apache :-P)
13:20 ashimema        I think we're actually binding on SRU come to think of it in this case.
13:21 tcohen          I basically didn't  want to keep track on multiple instances ports
13:22 tcohen          so I added this to my apache-site.conf.in
13:23 pastebot        "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "ashimema: this" (58 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/77
13:23 tcohen          ;-)
13:24 tcohen          ashimema: does it make sense?
13:24 * ashimema      is reading it
13:25 tcohen          http://sru.famaf.biblio.unc.edu.ar/biblios?version=1.1&operation=searchRetrieve&query=dc.title=calculus&startRecord=1&maximumRecords=1&recordSchema=marcxml
13:26 tcohen          famaf's site was configured using that apache-site.conf.in
13:26 ashimema        i see
13:26 ashimema        it's the proxypass at the bottom that's interesting to me for this case.
13:26 tcohen          i think we should definitely drop support for Z39.50 at some point
13:26 ashimema        took me a while to get down there ;)
13:27 drojf           we should add SRU import for auth before that
13:27 drojf           just a thought :P
13:27 tcohen          marcelr will write it, eventually
13:27 marcelr         heh
13:28 tcohen          also, this is why i mention it: https://libraries.io/github/xbib/elasticsearch-plugin-sru
13:29 tcohen          oh, removed!
13:30 eythian         marcelr: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/83011298/Foxton-hoping-for-a-visit-from-Dutch-King-and-Queen ... at least they have a Koha a library there
13:30 marcelr         hoop doet leven :)
13:31 tcohen          or reuse this http://search.cpan.org/~nics/Dancer-Plugin-Catmandu-SRU-0.0403/lib/Dancer/Plugin/Catmandu/SRU.pm
13:31 Tylathos        Ah now :D
13:31 eythian         I dunno, I don't feel that I would hope to go to Foxton really...
13:46 drojf           is anyone using nullmailer and does it actually work?
13:46 tcohen          drojf: it works for relaying emails
13:47 drojf           it never worked for me for anything, but it gets in the way a lot
13:49 Tylathos        Nice ^^ actualy change made with no problem, but now the last items are no longer displayed :D #reasonswhyiloveperl
13:50 drojf           i doubt that is perl's fault :P
13:52 Tylathos        i know ^^
13:52 Tylathos        but maybe it's not even my fault, and i just found a bug :D
13:54 drojf           that happens. sometimes
13:54 Tylathos        i will test it.
14:06 Tylathos        Nevermind, hasn't restart the apache :D
14:35 bag             magnuse: Happy Birthday!!! knuckles ;)
14:44 tcohen          magnuse: happy birthday!
15:25 morgane         bye #koha !
15:37 Oak             magnuse, Happy birthday!!!
15:48 magnuse         thanks bag tcohen Oak
15:48 magnuse         bag: HI
15:48 wahanui         hi, magnuse
15:49 bag             you’re welcome magnuse
15:49 magnuse         \ô/
15:51 Oak             :)
17:54 drojf           bug 15200
17:54 wahanui         bug 15200 is the last one needed to get true nightly master builds
17:55 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Passed QA , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
17:55 drojf           @later tell khall_away could you push 15200 please? it's the last one missing for nightly builds
17:55 huginn          drojf: The operation succeeded.
17:57 oleonard        @quote get random
17:57 huginn          oleonard: Error: 'random' is not a valid id.
17:57 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
17:58 oleonard        @quote random
17:58 huginn          oleonard: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 10:15 PM, November 16, 2009)
18:32 beatsforthemind Hello
18:32 wahanui         what's up, beatsforthemind
18:33 beatsforthemind I have some experience with using the Zebra SRU and adding indexes
18:34 beatsforthemind I am looking to do a Zebra SRU search (through an API URL) on the 650$9 field
18:34 beatsforthemind this is a authority controlled field
18:35 beatsforthemind If anyone has any knowledge on how to do that I would appreciate any help
18:36 beatsforthemind I have been able to add search indexes with the help of the Koha WIKI, however this 650$9 field I am having trouble with
18:39 beatsforthemind Also, I am wondering if, in general, the work you guys are doing on elasticsearch will some day replace the Zebra SRU API for searching Koha through an API?
20:48 rangi           joubu++
20:49 rangi           beatsforthemind: eventually maybe but not in the short term future
20:49 cait            Joubu++
20:49 cait            ?
20:49 rangi           beatsforthemind: maybe for 17.05 release
20:50 beatsforthemind Will elasticsearch have an API?
20:50 rangi           apart from the one it already comes with?
20:51 beatsforthemind apart from Zebra, yes?
20:52 rangi           you wouldnt search elasticsearch indexes via zebra?
20:52 rangi           elastic comes with an api built in
20:52 rangi           we store data in it, and search it using that api
20:53 beatsforthemind ah ok
20:53 rangi           so in theory you could build a shim, that converts SRU queries into elasitc ones
20:53 rangi           and you would have an SRU server over top of elastic
20:53 beatsforthemind i haven’t worked with the elasticsearch api, but i would wager it might be easier to work with than the sru
20:53 rangi           its a lot easier
20:53 beatsforthemind awesome
20:54 beatsforthemind i patiently wait :)
20:54 rangi           elastic deals in json
20:54 rangi           https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/search-search.html
20:54 beatsforthemind sounds great to me
20:55 rangi           so what the work we have done so far is, convert marc to json, store in elastic search, add routines to fetch the data back from elasticsearch
20:55 rangi           so in Koha when you turn elasticsearch on it stores the data in both zebra and elastic, but your searches in the opac and staff site now search elastic
20:56 rangi           the really cool thing is, it doesnt care what type of data you store in it, as long as you describe it
20:56 rangi           so its not just limited to marc, in the way that zebra is
20:56 rangi           the reason we left zebra though, is that we dont want to have to write a z3950 server just yet
20:57 * rangi         has to go now, i hope that makes some sense
21:44 atcher121       Hi, I have the cardnumber with me in a javascript/jquery variable, and would like to move to his particular batch checkout page. How do I do this?
21:44 atcher121       (from jquery)
21:50 andreashm       a (hopefully) quick question: is there anything I need to do to be able to test the rest api with kohadevbox?
21:56 atcher121       How do I check from within jquery wheather I am in the batch checkout page?