Time  Nick       Message
21:47 * wizzyrea sing the package building song
21:47 wizzyrea   (and no dislike because you should have to justify why you think a thing is bad with a comment.)
21:46 wizzyrea   a thing that doesn't send an email, but lets people know that you've seen their comment and you approve.
21:46 wizzyrea   I think bugzilla needs a "like comment" thing
21:40 wizzyrea   hi
20:51 andreashm  (And yes, before you think I'm a total moron, I've been testing the OAI-PMH harvester, record matching rules and repeated harvests of the same record)
20:48 andreashm  a report, is the only idea I have.
20:48 andreashm  any ideas for an easy way to get biblio-numbers so I can batch delete?
20:47 andreashm  yeah, but same issue there. 240 batches of the same record. =)
20:47 cait       your import i mean
20:47 cait       can you undo?
20:47 cait       heh
20:45 andreashm  (ok, I'm just whining...)
20:45 andreashm  for when you like me, mistakenly have imported a lot of duplicate records. =)
20:44 andreashm  yup
20:44 cait       andreashm: hm? for merging?
20:44 * cait     waves
20:42 andreashm  why isn't there a "select all" function when you do a cataloging search?
20:08 drojf      evening
20:08 andreashm  evening
20:06 rangi      morning
19:54 andreashm  hi #koha
19:47 Tylathos   Have a good night :)
19:44 * kidclamp waves
19:42 * cait     waves
18:05 oleonard   Or is it not intended that items in a course reserve be checked out only to students in the course?
18:04 oleonard   I would think that course reserves functionality would require that you be able to assign patrons to the course
17:20 cait       c
17:20 cait       hm wonder if i can just put that with 260
17:18 drojf      right
17:18 drojf      i think you are tight
17:18 drojf      eythian: ha yeah
17:18 eythian    Which I fancy is unwarranted
17:18 eythian    drojf: you assume people remove unneeded 'use' declarations
17:17 cait       just saying
17:17 drojf      lol
17:17 cait       that's not a lot fo info huginn
17:17 huginn     cait: Period covered
17:17 cait       @marc 513 b
17:17 cait       hmm
17:17 huginn     cait: unknown tag 513$b
17:17 cait       @marc 513$b
17:16 huginn     cait: unknown tag 513b
17:16 cait       @marc 513b
17:14 drojf      so in theory it should be possible to git grep for all the stuff in the deps file and see what is not there
17:13 drojf      apart from that i think we have proper declaration of dependencies
17:13 drojf      there are still some weird things going on in tests
17:12 eythian    drojf: yeah. Especially if they have automatic imports. Though I bet that's a solved problem.
17:04 Tylathos   HEy folks
16:58 drojf      it would probably also take forever to check if we still need all of them
16:57 drojf      heh
16:48 eythian    drojf: to be fair, it took me forever to do that from liw
16:30 drojf      i have not even started taking over the maintenance of eythian#s stuff
16:30 drojf      heh hi liw
16:28 * liw      waves a little "packaging is fun" flag from a galaxy far, far away
16:26 drojf      that packaging thing is becoming a full time hobby :P
16:26 * drojf    spreads confusion on the bug tracker
16:24 cait       thx a lot
16:22 mveron     cait: I will file a bug (later) to document the findings
16:22 mveron     cait: with lang="en", thousand separators space and ' are a problem, comma works
16:15 cait       i got not much timr right now :(
16:14 cait       thx again
16:14 mveron     not
16:14 mveron     cait: nor sure, I will test with en
16:14 Joubu      mveron: sorry no idea, I did not follow the discussion
16:14 cait       hm might cause problems if you enter the thousands separator
16:13 mveron     (the latter seems to work with , and with .  as decimal separator)
16:13 mveron     cait, Joubu: What to do? - Replace input fields of type "number" or give them a language attribute lang="en" ?
16:05 morgane    bye #koha
16:02 mveron     :-)
16:02 cait       mveron++
16:02 cait       mveron verified
16:02 cait       requires me to use a comma when german is selected
16:02 cait       Joubu: the new entry field for manual fines reacts to your browser locale
15:57 mveron     Joubu: Just was testing the weird de-DE thing with number format.
15:57 mveron     Cait: Regarding the format: Yes, I think it will be the best bet to change to Price.
15:57 Joubu      mveron: Are you working on prices formatting all around the interface?
15:56 mveron     It's my own test libray, so it well be even...
15:55 cait       i don't trust the credits
15:55 mveron     cait: You can do the same :-)
15:54 cait       heh
15:54 * mveron   tests with credits , not with invoices - will soon be a rich man, virtually.
15:54 mveron     100'000.90 works (with de-CH), but not with de-DE (needs 100'000,90)
15:52 cait       and then the only thing we need to figure out still is the question of how to show the currency symbol
15:52 cait       mveron: hm ok, so we change all the displays to Price.. and then we do whtever we did there and will be fine? :)
15:51 gaetan_B   bye
15:51 mveron     We use . as decimal separator  it makses sense. But it accepts comma as well.
15:51 cait       100'000?
15:51 cait       because i think you use ' for the 100.000?
15:51 cait       does it not recognize de-CH or is it just ok with . there?
15:50 cait       ah that makes sense
15:50 mveron     Same if I give the input field an language attribute: lang="en"
15:49 mveron     cait: Found. If I set the Koha language to de-DE and then, with firebug, set HTML source from <html lang="de-DE"> to <html lang="en">, the field accepts bouth 5.50 and 5,50
15:37 mveron     drojf: Thanks anyway for the hint :-)
15:36 mveron     drojf: Per accident, I'm on a new VM.  I was not aware of, changed settings today. Next commit should be OK.
15:35 drojf      *on
15:34 drojf      mveron: i have seen a few "Signed-off-by: Marc <veron@veron.ch>". is your last name missing un purpose or by accident?
15:33 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
15:33 drojf      could someone take a look at bug 15200 please?
15:29 drojf      libfile-slurp-perl (>=9999.13) <- that looks fishy. but debian actually has that :D
15:28 eythian    nice
15:28 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, ASSIGNED , Generate debian/control with version numbers from PerlDependencies.pm
15:28 drojf      eythian tcohen: i built and installed a package with it, seems to work ok so far. bug 17092
15:20 cait       what happens when you try to enter with , in de-CH?
15:20 cait       yeah my guess was something html5 field validation too
15:19 * mveron   digs the differences between de-DI an dde-CH
15:19 mveron     cait: Strange enough, with en, if I give a wrong number like 5xxx98, it says "Bitte geben Sie eine Nummer ein" as well (in German). Maybe it's a Firefox thing.
15:17 cait       mveron: i wonder what happened there
15:17 wahanui    i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
15:17 cait       mveron: interesting
15:05 mveron     cait: Regarding "Bitte geben Sie eine Nummer ein": I can reproduce with de-DE, but with de-CH it works
15:04 mveron     Hi again #koha
14:18 Tylathos   ah now
14:18 Tylathos   Test
13:48 eythian    so you should probably do something about that.
13:48 eythian    well, there's eels
13:48 * magnuse  gotta run
13:48 magnuse    :-)
13:48 eythian    magnuse: Luftputebåten min er full av ål, yes
13:46 magnuse    my hovercraft is full of eels?
13:44 tcohen     :-)
13:44 tcohen     is bugzilla running in plack?
13:42 tcohen     is that greek?
13:42 drojf      lol
13:42 eythian    next you should try "Myn hovercraft sit fol mei iel"
13:41 drojf      :P
13:41 drojf      i have not even started yet!
13:41 eythian    drojf: no, you mean "hoi tcohen", did you learn nothing from that course?
13:40 tcohen     hey drojf
13:38 drojf      hi tcohen
13:37 tcohen     bonjour
13:24 eythian    that does sound like awkward timing.
13:24 drojf      makes sense to learn frisian while in the area though :D
13:23 drojf      eythian: it's during 3 weeks where i will be on a northern frisian (!) island, then marseille, then maschinenfest. with virtually no home time in between. might be complicated
13:14 eythian    I just like the idea of it as being the language most close to English that's in use. And the other close-to-it language is the one I'm studying anyway :)
13:13 drojf      sometimes 1-3 go together too
13:13 drojf      for me it's like 1) german 2) english 3) all other languages i ever looked at
13:12 eythian    oleonard: well, one's a language that I'm already familiar with but need practice in certain areas, the other is a very introductory course. Hopefully they won't conflict in my head :)
13:11 oleonard   jajm around?
13:10 drojf      yeah tempting. i would be interested. not sure if i will actually have time
13:10 oleonard   Learning two languages simultaneously sounds very confusing.
13:07 eythian    3 weeks at 3 hours per week, it's not a huge time investment (which is good as I'll have Dutch classes at the same time.)
13:07 eythian    I thought I might
12:58 drojf      eythian: are you doing that?
12:57 drojf      eythian: oh cool
12:57 drojf      Tylathos: of course it does, i wrote it :P
12:57 drojf      easiest signoff ever
12:56 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17087 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Set Test::WWW::Mechanize version to 1.42
12:56 drojf      bug 17087
12:53 eythian    https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/frisian <-- drojf, don't forget to get some language practice in before you visit here or you won't know what's going on anywhere
12:52 Tylathos   that sound funnys :)
12:51 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube
12:51 oleonard   Bug 14168
12:51 oleonard   Tylathos: I think it's for embedding video
12:50 oleonard   We should have a bug-squashing day just for cleaning up the 'Failed QA' list. 259 bugs long.
12:50 Tylathos   WWW::YouTube::Download <== Why do koha need this modul?
12:48 drojf      we can talk about it once somebody does koha-win :P
12:48 eythian    s/backported into/upgraded in/
12:48 drojf      yes
12:48 eythian    drojf: that's probably also why 1.44 hasn't been backported into Debian, no practical changes.
12:47 Tylathos   This is so typical for a cpan modul :D
12:47 drojf      so long, 1.44
12:46 drojf      Fixed test failures on Win32.  Thanks, Jerry Gay.
12:46 drojf      [FIXES]
12:46 drojf      There is no new functionality in this release.
12:46 drojf      ------------------------------------
12:46 drojf      1.44    Sat Jun 30 20:32:04 CDT 2012
12:46 drojf      1.44 was the latest version on cpan when marcelr added the dep
12:45 * Tylathos complaining just for drojf ^^
12:45 eythian    people will have been using it with the older version for years now
12:45 eythian    assuming it's only used for testing, that's what I'd do
12:43 drojf      i'm tempted to set it to 1.42 and wait for someone to complain
12:43 huginn     04Bug 8300: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Koha should have mechanized testing suite
12:42 drojf      from that comment i'd assume that it was fine with whatever was in whatever debian or ubuntu people used in 2012 https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300#c4
12:41 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Koha should have mechanized testing suite
12:41 drojf      bug 8300
12:41 magnuse    phew
12:40 drojf      magnuse: you're off the hook. for now :P
12:40 huginn     drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:40 drojf      @later tell marcelr do we actually need ibtest-www-mechanize-perl 1.44 and not 1.42 which is in wheezy and jessie?
12:40 drojf      marcelr did it first apparently. you redid the patch
12:40 magnuse    what he said :-)
12:40 magnuse    i did?
12:40 oleonard   Don't ask me about anything oleonard from 3 years ago did. That guy was an idiot.
12:39 drojf      you have to! you added it only 3 years ago :P
12:38 magnuse    dunno
12:37 drojf      magnuse: do we actually need ibtest-www-mechanize-perl 1.44 and not 1.42 which is in wheezy and jessie?
12:23 drojf      it's URI::Escape 3.31. which comes with liburi-perl
12:22 drojf      ok
12:21 drojf      and it is 1.71 on cpan. i guess that is just wrong
12:18 drojf      the only one that looks really off is liburi-perl >=3.31 vs actual 1.64-1
12:14 eythian    better than I expected
12:14 drojf      *too
12:14 drojf      eythian: blindly trying with version number gave me 3 (out of a million or how many we have) that were not found. does not look to bad
12:12 drojf      :D
12:12 cait       heh
12:12 cait       drojf humansnack gluten free cookie
12:12 cait       hi drojf
12:11 drojf      hi oleonard and cait
11:55 * cait     waves at oleonard
11:45 Tylathos   hi oleonard :)
11:41 oleonard   Hi all
11:12 drojf      there is even a $ver in list-deps, it is just not used
11:12 drojf      yeah makes sense
11:11 eythian    sure, I think it would be a good addition. I also wanted to add the non-required ones as "recommended"
11:09 drojf      eythian: ok. my laziness told me that i don't want to add more expections for required versions by hand. if i have to add them for the package version, it would not be much win :P but i'll have a look
11:07 eythian    drojf: not really, except that the perl package version style doesn't always match the cpan version style, so you'll need to be aware of those cases (there shouldn't be many, but I have seen it before.) Otherwise, just laziness :)
11:05 huginn     drojf: The operation succeeded.
11:05 drojf      @later tell eythian is there a reason why the version numbers from PerlDependencies.pm are not automatically set in debian/control?
11:02 magnuse    moin drojf
11:01 drojf      hei magnuse
10:53 magnuse    drojf++
10:30 Tylathos   hey folks
10:17 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
10:17 drojf      bug 15200 is the last one needed to get true nightly master builds
10:15 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6499: [QA Follow-up] Trivial adjustments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b4259be9c237c7773f6af9f6c83894718be603d> / Bug 6499: Add Zebra index "Other-control-number" covering MARC21 035$a, 035$z and... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84f51549c94a5f5fdc227e6febb472946ca2b71c>
09:35 wahanui    i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:35 cait       interesting
09:35 cait       sounds like something was stuck somewhere
09:35 morgane    s/jully/july
09:34 morgane    for my two emails
09:34 morgane    cait: I received all of them yesturday but the date on it is the 22nd of jully
09:32 cait       morgane: no idea - you got the email from days ago?
09:30 drojf      hi #koha
09:19 eythian    never rains but it pours eh
09:04 morgane    morning cait! I finally received my wiki logs ! Now I have three accounts on the wiki :p do you know what happened?
08:01 cait       good morning #koha
07:32 fridolin   hie
07:08 gaetan_B   hello
07:02 morgane    hi #koha !
06:42 magnuse    wb cait
06:37 magnuse    [off] the reason i forgit it was i had to go to our cabin to look for my wife's wallet
06:27 dcook      :p
06:27 * dcook    was just trying to be funny...
06:27 dcook      I assume it's a nice thing?
06:27 dcook      You forgot to upgrade the production server
06:24 magnuse    ?
06:23 dcook      magnuse: This is why we can't have nice things :p
06:12 * magnuse  forgot to upgrade the production server last night...
06:12 magnuse    \o/
05:59 * cait     waves
05:40 * magnuse  waves
05:25 huginn     cait: The operation succeeded.
05:25 cait       @later tell oleonard could youtake another look at bug10848 maybe?
05:25 huginn     cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes
05:25 cait       @oleonard could you take another look at bug 10848  maybe?
03:43 wizzyrea   later
03:41 mtompset   Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea rangi
03:19 mtompset   Thanks for some ideas.
03:19 tcohen     talk tomorrow mtompset, good luck!
03:19 mtompset   no problem...
03:19 tcohen     sorry but I need to leave
03:18 wizzyrea   much easier to get those right than to hack in DOM support
03:18 wizzyrea   to get a 3.22 to generate a koha-conf and replace the relevant entries/passwords
03:18 wizzyrea   it's easier, in most cases
03:18 wizzyrea   i've had this happen with conversions too :/
03:17 mtompset   Wasn't dom default for 3.18?
03:17 wahanui    really is more trouble than she's worth.
03:17 tcohen     really?
03:17 mtompset   koha-conf says dom.
03:17 tcohen     best is, create a fresh new instance, move the apache config and load a DB dump. period :-D
03:16 mtompset   steps to check that?
03:16 rangi      and you don't want to be doing that
03:16 rangi      yeah
03:16 rangi      you also need to make sure its using DOM
03:16 tcohen     mtompset: its because you are still using a GRS-1 configunraiton
03:16 mtompset   At this point in time, I'll take it.
03:15 rangi      it will, but the old ones
03:15 mtompset   turning it to 0 gave me facets.
03:15 rangi      3.22.08 is working fine with zebra facets for me
03:15 mtompset   It was 1.
03:14 rangi      it doesnt build the facets in zebra unless you have it switched on
03:14 mtompset   I did a full reindex
03:14 rangi      and do a full zebra reindex
03:14 rangi      switch it back on
03:14 wizzyrea   I'm sure you will track that down :)
03:14 wizzyrea   I don't know why the zebra facets are busted but
03:14 wizzyrea   now mind you
03:13 mtompset   let there be facets!
03:12 wizzyrea   try 0?
03:12 mtompset   1.
03:12 wizzyrea   is it 1 or 0?
03:12 mtompset   And the system information tab in the about mentions no warnings.
03:12 mtompset   Yes, that exists in the koha-conf.
03:11 mtompset   let me check....
03:11 wizzyrea   something like this
03:11 wizzyrea   <use_zebra_facets>1</use_zebra_facets>
03:11 mtompset   Oh... missing xml entries?
03:11 mtompset   Hmmm... from 3.18.x if I recall.
03:11 wizzyrea   tcohen would know more about that
03:10 wizzyrea   or do you have the pref at all
03:10 wizzyrea   ah, do you ahve use zebra facets enabled in your koha-conf?
03:10 mtompset   can't remember from what to what.
03:10 mtompset   We upgraded...
03:10 wizzyrea   like an upgraded one
03:10 wizzyrea   is this an old install?
03:09 mtompset   I know the $facets is empty for some reason, but I haven't tried to trace it deeper.
03:09 wizzyrea   :) that's pretty specific
03:09 mtompset   tonnes of search results.
03:08 mtompset   specific: "Where are the facets... it's blank!"
03:06 wizzyrea   yeah gonna have to be specific there
03:05 tcohen     'loss of facets displayed'?
03:05 mtompset   ^Any^Anyone^
03:05 mtompset   Any experience a loss of facets displayed using 3.22.09?
03:01 mtompset   Greetings, #koha
02:39 wahanui    zebra is a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses
02:39 wizzyrea   zebra?
02:39 wizzyrea   zebra
02:39 wizzyrea   aw I thought wahanui said something funny for that.
02:39 wizzyrea   is your zebra running?
02:01 wizzyrea   like this sort of thing ldapsearch -H ldaps://host.name  -s base -x  -w "" -d 1 does stuff?
02:01 tcohen     no problem actually
02:00 wizzyrea   I'd have you paste me your config but that might be awkward
02:00 tcohen     I can
02:00 tcohen     yes, but VPN connexion would kick me out of IRC :-D
01:59 wizzyrea   from your koha to your ldap?
01:59 wizzyrea   can you ldapsearch from the command line?
01:59 wizzyrea   most of ours are auth by bind
01:59 tcohen     i'm not sure what people tend to use
01:58 tcohen     and just need it to compare passwords, or auth by bind
01:58 tcohen     to figure how the authentication would work
01:58 tcohen     i'm just testing against a replica of a production LDAP
01:58 tcohen     i disabled most of the mappings
01:57 wizzyrea   i can't recall if we fixed that bug.
01:57 wizzyrea   extended borrower attributes on?
01:57 tcohen     why do i get that :-D
01:57 tcohen     https://snag.gy/uH6wZG.jpg
01:56 wizzyrea   but I have done it :)
01:56 wizzyrea   i wouldn't call myself an expert
01:56 wizzyrea   a bit yeah
01:56 tcohen     LDAP authentication
01:56 tcohen     wizzyrea: do u have experience in setting LDAP in Koha?
01:55 tcohen     pull requests for improving it are welcome
01:55 tcohen     besides that, did you like it? :-D
01:54 wizzyrea   yeah sok I was just like, is this really how this is supposed to go :)
01:54 tcohen     I haven't had the time to spend on it
01:54 tcohen     so they get installed later, and the next run is ok
01:53 tcohen     (inside Test::DBIx::Class)
01:53 tcohen     i think it is bad dependencies
01:53 tcohen     no, you are not
01:53 wizzyrea   race of some kind?
01:53 tcohen     it is a bit recent
01:53 wizzyrea   YES. that's exactly it ok I'm not losing my mind :D
01:53 tcohen     i haven't found why recent Test::DBIx::Class fails to build the first time
01:53 wizzyrea   >.< really?!
01:52 tcohen     :-D
01:52 tcohen     you need to do it twice actually
01:52 wizzyrea   afaik I followed the instructions lol
01:52 wizzyrea   so I just used the ansible devbox for the first time, and I'm wondering if it's normal that you have to provision like 3 times before it works?
01:51 tcohen     hi wizzyrea, yes
01:51 wizzyrea   are you around for a lil bit?
01:51 wizzyrea   hi tcohen
01:43 tcohen     hi