Time  Nick          Message
21:55 andreashm     Yup, I guess it's about time I get the ansible version runing
21:53 wizzyrea      cuz yeah the .sh version is out of date by quite a lot now.
21:53 wizzyrea      heh, guess it's time for me to actually get the ansible one going on my machine
21:48 andreashm     too
21:48 andreashm     well, that sounds good. makes it easy to tell them apart to.
21:47 wizzyrea      they shouldn't interfere, but they will have different ports to access the interfaces iirc
21:47 wizzyrea      ahh
21:46 andreashm     wizzyrea: sounds like a good idea. might be over my skill level though. =)
21:45 andreashm     Can I keep that old one and install a new version of Kohadevbox? Or will they interfere with one another?
21:44 wizzyrea      put it in /vagrant which is shared with your computer
21:44 wizzyrea      is dump the db
21:44 wizzyrea      (and you're free to do something different)
21:44 wizzyrea      what I'd do there
21:44 andreashm     Yeah. Problem is that the one I've been using so far actually has data loaded in to it. Makes stuff easier to test.
21:43 wizzyrea      vagrant boxes are meant to be expendable :)
21:42 andreashm     guess I'll have to upgrade, or download a new version of the devbox then
21:42 drojf         we deprecated wheezy, and master does not work there any longer
21:41 andreashm     crap
21:41 drojf         because it#s only in jessie, which is 8
21:41 drojf         andreashm: then you are out of luck
21:41 andreashm     drojf: debian-7.8 apparently
21:41 drojf         wizzyrea: i happily announced having packaged libserial-* :) i think those modules just want to be spelled wrong
21:40 drojf         andreashm: are you on wheezy?
21:39 andreashm     I looked at that one, and also found some comments in the log, but can't seem to found out how to install the dependancy
21:37 wizzyrea      my internal speller had a real problem with it lol.
21:36 huginn        04Bug 16715: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization
21:36 wizzyrea      https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16715#c31 this comment specifically
21:35 drojf         libsereal-encoder-perl and libsereal-decoder-perl
21:35 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization
21:35 wizzyrea      :) i forget what the exact package is it was a bit of a strange name but bug 16715 should help some
21:34 andreashm     thanks wizzyrea
21:34 huginn        bag: cait was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <cait> did you try running fines.pl from the koha-shell?
21:34 bag           @seen cait
21:34 wizzyrea      er, sorry that shouldn't have ended with a ?
21:33 wizzyrea      because you need to install that dependency?
21:33 andreashm     Anyone got any clue as to why my Kohadevbox shows the error "Can't locate Sereal/Encoder.pm in @INC"?
21:33 andreashm     hi wizzyrea
21:31 wahanui       hello, wizzyrea
21:31 wizzyrea      hi
21:28 * andreashm   waves
20:03 liw           hello, rangi
20:02 rangi         morning
18:53 barton        I've currently got it set up like this: http://paste.koha-community.org/61 -- that puts the release candidate at 2.0.62-1.indexdata
18:51 barton        ahoy, does anyone have any experience using pinning with apt-get? I'm trying to install idzebra-2.0:2.0.60-1 from the ftp.indexdata.dk repo, and setting up /etc/apt/preferences.d/indexdata.pref is giving me fits -- I'm not sure where to put the version number.
17:02 drojf         but not when building packages
17:02 drojf         which on my dev install passes with and without KOHA_CONF set
17:02 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
17:02 drojf         now there is only bug 15200
17:01 drojf         thanks!
17:01 drojf         khall++
17:01 drojf         tcohen++
16:13 morgane       bye #koha
15:56 gaetan_B      bye
15:28 kidclamp      Scott-CSPL, Mike-CSPL can you poke Debs computer to stop the rejoins?
15:26 oleonard      deb-CSPL: Are you really trying to join #koha or this just an automatic reconnect?
15:26 oleonard      too slow
15:26 oleonard      deb-CSPL: Are you really trying to join #koha or this just an automatic reconnect?
15:25 craigbutosi   Would this issue be in any way related to an apache (mis)configuration?
14:51 craigbutosi   I don't have a directory called /usr/lib/cgi-bin/img which is the strange part
14:50 craigbutosi   Yes, I did. Ran sudo koha-shell library2; then /usr.share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl; script looked like it ran from the comman line (i.e., no errors). intranet-error.log reports at the same time: [Mon Aug 08 10:47:52.397869 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 12107] [client] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/img, referer: http://rel.rcmusic.ca:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/members-home.pl [Mon Aug 08 10:47:57.464597 2016] [cgi:error]
14:47 cait          did you try running fines.pl from the koha-shell?
14:46 cait          ah sorry, i meant finesmode :)
14:46 craigbutosi   Fineslog is set to Log; finesmode is set to Calculate and Charge
14:45 cait          is fineslog set to 'calculate and charge'?
14:45 craigbutosi   [Mon Aug 08 09:16:58.142412 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 7391] [client] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/img, referer: http://rel.rcmusic.ca:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=14361 [Mon Aug 08 09:27:05.148322 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 7821] [client] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/img, referer: http://rel.rcmusic.ca:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/member.pl [Mon Aug 08 09:27:
14:45 craigbutosi   Hi cait, yes, I think the error is bigger than fines.pl. It looks like it's effecting many scripts. Here's a more thorough image of intranet-error.log:
14:44 cait          do you get an error when the fines script runs?
14:44 cait          i thnk the image one is not related to your fines
14:43 * cait        waves at craigbutosi
14:43 craigbutosi   Intranetuserjs is blank. We're running a pretty vanilla staff client
14:42 Joubu         craigbutosi: something in the intranetuserjs?
14:41 kidclamp      that is odd craigbutosi
14:40 pastebot      "craigbutosi" at pasted "Intranet-error.log - CGI:error script not found or unable to stat" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59
14:39 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17062 - debian/control.in update: change maintainer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f50e9f686a319a4857f595e46c405f8bc85b48e> / Bug 17019 - debian/changelog update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8102098fa6adea43e71c06641b2705c5b23f29be>
14:37 craigbutosi   I should say too that I installed from packages
14:36 craigbutosi   I've been told by some that this may be a permissions problem. However, I have no idea how to fix this.
14:35 craigbutosi   From /var/log/koha/library2/intranet-error.log: [Mon Aug 08 10:28:29.701076 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 11239] [client] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/img, referer: http://rel.rcmusic.ca:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/tools-home.pl [Mon Aug 08 10:28:34.091716 2016] [cgi:error] [pid 11246] [client] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/img, referer: http://rel.rcmusic.ca:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tool
14:34 craigbutosi   I discovered this error when fines were not posting to patron accounts.
14:34 craigbutosi   We're at the testing stages of our Koha instance (install, data import, borrowers import, have all been completed successfully). However, intranet-error.log is reporting a cgi-error that I've never seen before.
14:33 craigbutosi   Hi all, First time user of the koha IRC channel. I'm hopping on here in the hope that someone can help me with a strange error in Koha (16.05, Ubuntu 14.04). I've already posted this error on the koha list-serv, but was referred here too.
14:29 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17043 - Readonly deps <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c9eace41acfea9e76731cc987cab8df284e7423> / Bug 17043 - master control file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd2f15c486bcbba448cf6bf5b75c74eaf3a11695> / Bug 17043 - debian/list-deps fixes, master edition <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=347c3b68d7a45cd0f3a66fb662ab5f4a0a8
14:03 drojf         later #koha
13:40 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 17.6°C (10:40 AM ART on August 08, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
13:40 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:19 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17030: Make REST api available on packages with plack enabled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4bb70a447c7a6ea5e7498250adbe0e152259974> / Bug 17030: Enable REST api on packages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e38b8b60f118c0721a52fdaa332446063657dd3> / Bug 17065 - Rename C4/Auth_cas_servers.yaml.orig <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
13:19 Joubu         tcohen: Hi! It's this one (it has been set back to NSO when pushed, so no new #)
13:18 tcohen        and hi :-D
13:18 tcohen        the one taht removes the wrapper dep Joubu
13:18 drojf         tcohen: i use a pbuilder environment running debian jessie, which has the koha unstable repo in /etc/apt/source.list. then i run debian/update-control from there. without the patch, you should get a lot of EEEKs in the updated control file, because the path is not found by the regex
13:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization
13:16 wahanui       bug 16715 is, like, passed qa
13:16 Joubu         bug 16715?
13:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16175 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Amazon book covers should use https on public and private lists in the OPAC
13:16 Joubu         bug 16175?
13:15 tcohen        are teh sereal patches pushed already?
13:14 tcohen        drojf: do u have a recipe to build a proper env to test such thing?
13:13 drojf         w00t
13:13 * tcohen      fires a clean debian 8 VM to test it
13:12 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17043 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , debian/list-deps fixes, master edition
13:12 drojf         bug 17043 needs a signoff first
13:11 magnuse       khall++
13:11 tcohen        \o/
13:11 tcohen        =D
13:11 tcohen        khall: I think we could start with 17013, 17043, 17064, 17065 and 17030
13:10 khall         tcohen: get me a bug list and I'll make it happen
13:10 tcohen        at least give them priority
13:10 tcohen        maybe we should ask khall to push all those passed-qa packages-related patches ASAP
13:08 tcohen        yeah, and we should have 17030 in already!
13:08 drojf         und they are interfering
13:07 drojf         the last two are more for cosmetic reasons. i want to have an updated control file with each build
13:07 drojf         it would not build in jessie in general
13:06 drojf         plus some smaller things. 17013, 17043, 17064, 17065
13:05 tcohen        s/pb/b/
13:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
13:05 drojf         bug 15200
13:05 drojf         but technically, yes, somebody needs to fix something and some things have to be pushed
13:05 tcohen        so you say master is broken regarding the pbuild process?
13:05 drojf         and never build
13:05 drojf         the nightlier nightly would stop at tests
13:04 tcohen        then is not a nightly :-P
13:04 drojf         most of them are passed qa by now
13:04 tcohen        how is that?
13:04 drojf         tcohen: a warning: at the moment there are a few patches in there that are not in master yet. because it would not work otherwise
13:03 drojf         on the other hand, if somebody volunteers to enter the passphrase every night … :)
13:01 drojf         tcohen: the reason not to set up a key without passphrase was mainly that it is more work for not really more security. if somebody gets on the server to do weird stuff with unsigned packages, they could also use the key without passphrase then
12:59 drojf         eythian: yep. i think i have deleted the --force-install comment from the website already
12:59 eythian       this means that you're not accidentally covering up another issue
12:58 drojf         not sure if that makes a difference
12:58 eythian       but if you're testing by hand, just answer the question when it asks :)
12:58 drojf         tcohen: yes that would be the other option
12:58 eythian       if you're careful and automating then go for it.
12:58 eythian       oh, sure
12:58 drojf         because i'm not in there then :)
12:57 drojf         eythian: yes. but i did not want to be asked for the automatic setup
12:57 eythian       last I saw, anyway.
12:57 eythian       *it
12:57 eythian       I think it's asks you on install.
12:57 drojf         yes it's a repo
12:57 tcohen        it can be signed with a an un-protected key
12:57 eythian       oh, but you have a repo
12:57 eythian       signing is managed by apt, not dpkg
12:57 eythian       it's not
12:57 eythian       (because it means that if it doesn't work, it's more work to figure out why.)
12:56 drojf         eythian: i think it's needed for unsigned packages. but not sure
12:56 tcohen        we have koha_pin_custom_repo
12:56 * eythian     recommends against recommending --force options
12:56 drojf         cool
12:56 * tcohen      is trying it in kohadevbox
12:55 drojf         no it's not signed. but you might need to use --force-install
12:55 tcohen        yes
12:55 drojf         tcohen: the nightly?
12:54 tcohen        drojf: does it need a key?
12:50 drojf         learning how tests work is somewhere in the big pile of stuff :P
12:50 drojf         eythian: from looking at other tests, it should maybe mock C4::Context
12:49 drojf         thanks
12:49 tcohen        great job with the nightly
12:49 tcohen        hey drojf
12:49 drojf         hi tcohen
12:45 tcohen        great!
12:44 magnuse       i bought my hotel and tickets about a week ago :-)
12:44 tcohen        magnuse: what about you?
12:44 wahanui       That'll be €1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
12:44 magnuse       awesome!
12:44 tcohen        magnuse, that's righr!
12:43 magnuse       kia ora tcohen! rumour says yo uare coming to marseille?
12:43 tcohen        morning
12:25 drojf         it does not work on the build server which should have an up to date koha-conf.xml. so it's maybe just the fonts
12:24 eythian       yeah
12:23 drojf         if not, it should leave me alone
12:23 drojf         i guess so. if it needs the files, it should be a dependency
12:23 eythian       because these have quite different solutions :)
12:22 drojf         eythian: no idea
12:22 eythian       drojf: where is the problem? Is it that the font declaration isn't present when building, or is it that the fonts aren't on the system?
12:20 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15200 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/Creators.t fails when using build-git-snapshot
12:20 drojf         could someone check bug 15200? atm i have to manually delete the test before i can build packages
12:13 marcelr       thx Joubu #QA
12:02 oleonard      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Chaney <-- He would make a great bot
12:02 eythian       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_V._Shaney <-- even better example
12:01 eythian       http://illuminatus.wikia.com/wiki/Markoff_Chaney <-- based on the work of this fellow.
12:00 oleonard      So a bot that eats cookies and checks the weather
11:59 eythian       oleonard: it learns from input (say, conversations on a channel) and uses that to generate new sentences.
11:58 wahanui       rumour has it that is fine
11:58 oleonard      eythian:  what's that?
11:57 eythian       I should get around to writing the markov bot I was going to make.
11:57 drojf         but the best stuff is what the bots say
11:56 wahanui       Can we get some hard data on that?
11:56 drojf         looks like it
11:54 marcelr       so, now someone is analyzing our interesting dialogues here ?
11:45 drojf         leave the bots alone :'(
11:43 test_0101     magnuse, thanks a lot. I appreciate your help!
11:42 magnuse       test_0101: see bottom of page here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
11:42 test_0101     :)
11:42 drojf         bots are just people, stop discriminating against them
11:42 test_0101     drojf, it is a project I am working on which is concerned about extracting dialogues between humans so I want to know the bots names so I can ignore,
11:41 drojf         why?
11:40 test_0101     drojf, sorry I just need to know the names of bots in the channel, can you just help!
11:39 drojf         test_0101: could you test whatever you are testing in some other channel? thanks
11:39 test_0101
11:38 test_0101     \logbot
11:38 test_0101
11:38 wahanui       marcelr: sorry...
11:38 marcelr       wahanui doesn't know
11:38 marcelr       is he dangerous?
11:37 drojf         hi oleopard
11:37 marcelr       hi oleonard
11:37 oleonard      Hi #koha
11:37 marcelr       drojf++
11:34 test_0101     hi, can someone tell me the names of all irc bots for that channel, thanks in advance!
11:34 drojf         marcelr Joubu: the update-control logs on https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly/ are "git diff" after i run debian/update-control. i want to add a bug where the build server can automatically send patches for that if it finds changes. but there are a few bugs that need to be closed before i can do that
11:30 marcelr       thx
11:29 drojf         marcelr: now. sorry, did not pay attention to the mid-air collision warning, i hit send and said it :D
11:29 test_0101     hi, can someone tell me the names of all irc bots for that channel, thanks in advance!
11:29 test_0101     help
11:29 drojf         did not see. mom
11:28 drojf         oh, it clashed
11:28 marcelr       drojf: not seeing your answer?
11:28 drojf         Joubu: done
11:23 Joubu         (lunch)
11:22 marcelr       ok I am having an 0.29 in a wheezy version but it probably was a cpan install
11:22 Joubu         drojf: could you answer on bug 16929 when you have 30sec please?
11:22 wahanui       rumour has it all is quiet on the open source front
11:22 Joubu         0.28-1: all
11:22 Joubu         https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libbytes-random-secure-perl&searchon=names&suite=stable&section=all
11:22 Joubu         heh :)
11:21 marcelr       maybe time for some glasses.. i am seeing a 8 now too
11:21 wahanui       yep.
11:21 Joubu         marcelr: yep?
11:21 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16929 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Failed QA , Prevent opac-memberentry waiting for random chars
11:21 marcelr       Joubu: bug 16929 ?
11:07 druthb        Awr, thanks!
11:06 magnuse       looking forward to you first issue, druthb
11:06 druthb        drojf!
11:06 drojf         druthb!
11:05 magnuse       yay
11:05 druthb        yep, Gabor talked me into it.  :P
11:05 wahanui       magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
11:05 druthb        magnuse!
11:05 magnuse       yeah, and soon to be co-editor of perl weekly, eh? :-)
11:05 wahanui       druthb is an amazing person
11:05 magnuse       druthb!
10:57 magnuse       perfect
10:57 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on August 08, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Falling).
10:57 magnuse       @wunder boo
10:56 drojf         volunteer to run a weather station? :)
10:52 eythian       no, that the one by name is the far side of the airport to the one that is the airport code.
10:50 eythian       I've been trying to find a weather station in the city that it knows
10:50 drojf         ah you did not mean that you need the ", nl" then
10:50 drojf         like berlin
10:50 drojf         eythian: too many amsterdams i guess
10:50 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.1°C (12:48 PM CEST on August 08, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:50 eythian       @wunder ams
10:50 eythian       is slightly further away from Amsterdam than:
10:50 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderdijk, Schiphol-Rijk, Netherlands is 19.8°C (12:47 PM CEST on August 08, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:50 eythian       @wunder amsterdam, nl
10:50 huginn        eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
10:50 eythian       @wunder amsterdam
10:50 eythian       what is weird is that:
10:47 drojf         indeed :)
10:47 marcelr       :)
10:47 marcelr       scary
10:46 drojf         marcelr: i think eythian said that too :D
10:42 marcelr       lol
10:42 huginn        marcelr: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
10:42 marcelr       @wunder museumplein
10:41 huginn        marcelr: The current temperature in Datsja Krim Texel, De Cocksdorp, Netherlands is 19.5°C (12:41 PM CEST on August 08, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
10:41 marcelr       @wunder texel
10:41 marcelr       hi drojf txl reminds me of texel
10:35 huginn        drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 27.4°C (12:35 PM CEST on August 08, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
10:35 drojf         @wunder txl
10:09 mveron        cait: Thanks, I will check in the afternoon
10:08 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
10:08 cait          @later tell mveron happens here for me: /cgi-bin/koha/members/maninvoice.pl?borrowernumber=X - entering 20.00 results in an error (Bitte geben Sie eine Nummer ein) - only Komma works, but that does work alright
10:04 cait          not always it seems - i haven't fount the pattern yet
10:03 marcelr       but the signoff was a general one..
10:02 marcelr       the sec patches do not seem to generate emails ?
10:02 cait          i didn't get that email for some reason - all good then
10:02 cait          cool :)
10:02 cait          aah
10:02 marcelr       has been signed one hour ago
10:01 cait          hm?
10:01 marcelr       no cait: look again
10:01 cait          marcelr: it's alright with the dependency, but stuck now
10:01 cait          marcelr: we need to find someone to sign the base patch :)
09:52 drojf         hello again
09:30 morgane       yes the demo was from an older version, but I run several times the updatedatabase.pl and now it seems to work.
09:24 eythian       cool :) I'd have guessed that the demo was from a different version and the update didn't kick in for some reason.
09:23 morgane       eythian: I droped and created it then I put a demo dump. and I just solved my problem :) thanks
09:21 eythian       how did you reset it?
09:14 morgane       hi, I try to reset my database, so I recreate it then when I do a updatedatabase.pl I have the following error : DBIx::Class::Row::get_column(): No such column 'serialseq_x' on Koha::Schema::Result::Serial at installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 11518. I don't know what to do, any idea ?
08:43 mveron        welcome :-)
08:43 marcelr       mveron++ # fast response
08:20 marcelr       hi #koha
08:14 huginn        mveron: The operation succeeded.
08:14 mveron        @later tell cait Could not reproduce comma problem with manually adding fine / fee, may be I did not search at the right place
08:12 eythian       hi
07:54 cait          have to go, bbl
07:54 cait          it seems to be related to the new entry thing - and it's only in that one place
07:54 cait          mveron: did you notice that you have to enter amounts with a comma now when adding a fine/fee manually?
07:53 cait          glad it worked for you too - Christopher got me a bit worried last night, but it worked really well for me
07:51 mveron        welcome :-)
07:51 cait          thx mveron
07:37 drojf         later #koha
07:34 drojf         mveron: yay. the bug sounds bad though
07:32 mveron        drojf++
07:32 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17069 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't create new patron category on the intranet
07:32 mveron        drojf: Cool, your koha-nightly, just tested it to confirm Bug 17069 with an additional server...
07:19 drojf         hi gaetan_B
07:18 gaetan_B      hello
07:14 drojf         cats++
07:14 drojf         which is totally not worldcat day
07:13 drojf         apparently it's world cat day
07:04 morgane       :)
07:02 magnuse       cool!
07:01 morgane       hi magnuse, during the hackfest my university course will have begun :s but I will do my best to come sometimes.
06:58 magnuse       morgane: will you be at the hackfest, or is your job done by then?
06:58 magnuse       hi morgane
06:57 morgane       hi drojf :)
06:56 drojf         hi morgane
06:56 morgane       hi #koha !
06:56 drojf         looks like it works
06:56 drojf         if somebody feels like playing: https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly/
06:54 mveron        :-)
06:54 drojf         hi mveron
06:54 mveron        Hi again #koha
06:43 magnuse       moin drojf
06:43 drojf         hei magnuse
06:42 * magnuse     waves again
06:38 drojf         hola dcook
06:37 dcook         yo drojf
06:28 drojf         morning #koha
05:10 dcook         wizzycrayfish: But yes. Withering look... stayed in my memory :p
05:10 dcook         Ugh, I need to stop reading this. I can never stand records of me fromt he past :p
05:09 dcook         I must have come in with a different nick earlier... as I don't see jcamins getting short with me :p
05:09 dcook         laters magnuse
05:09 magnuse       bbl
05:09 * dcook       shouldn't even be here right now
05:09 dcook         And now I'm busy with non-Koha work so I can't upstream stuff..
05:08 dcook         Of course, we still have way too many local customizations...
05:08 dcook         We were on 3.2 and so behind the times
05:08 dcook         At that stage for sure
05:08 magnuse       and your whole job was dealing with customizations?
05:07 dcook         That's the thing I remember most... haha
05:07 dcook         ^
05:07 dcook         "05:52	cait	customizations are always trouble"
05:06 dcook         But I suppose I didn't start really working on Koha until later
05:06 dcook         I started in January that year..
05:06 dcook         This is really shaking my memory confidence... haha
05:06 magnuse       "05:50 	dcook 	I installed 3.8.0 back in May" :-)
05:06 dcook         As I didn't think I was really going to be sticking around :p
05:05 dcook         So maybe I did use whatever nickname was autogenerated
05:05 dcook         Originally... I did use a web client
05:05 dcook         Mmmm
05:05 dcook         That must be it
05:05 * dcook       ponders
05:05 dcook         I would doubt it... but maybe
05:05 wahanui       Maybe is a momentaneous error
05:05 dcook         Maybe?
05:05 dcook         And after I permitted you to get up at that time...
05:05 magnuse       did you change your nick?
05:05 dcook         Tricksy!
05:05 dcook         lol
05:05 magnuse       i disconnected you so i could say it first
05:04 dcook         Bizarre
05:04 dcook         Lost my connection for a sec though :p
05:04 dcook         Yeah I was just about to post that
05:04 magnuse       http://irc.koha-community.org/search.pl?nick=dcook;channel=koha;q=;offset=750
05:04 magnuse       the irc log search has 2012-06-27 as the first date
05:03 dcook         But surely I was on IRC before I sent in that patch..
05:02 dcook         Google seems to think this is my earliest mention http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2012-03-16
05:02 dcook         It's weird...I'm not finding my earlier stuff
05:01 dcook         Just a little bit!
05:01 dcook         lol
05:01 wizzycrayfish clearly it was memorable :P
05:01 dcook         So it couldn't have been one of the first things you ever said to me
05:01 dcook         I wonder why that was 2013...
05:00 dcook         lol
05:00 wizzycrayfish loool
05:00 wizzycrayfish http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2013-02-05#i_1176687
04:59 dcook         Hmm maybe it wasn't withering..
04:58 dcook         2012 i mean
04:58 dcook         H'okay... 2013 ... probably march..
04:58 dcook         #koha has been so good for me
04:57 dcook         Funny how time changes things
04:57 wizzycrayfish lol maybe
04:57 dcook         I could probably find it in the archives..
04:57 wizzycrayfish I'm not sure I've said that to anyone else!
04:57 dcook         Me and jcamins were having a bit of a heated back and forth
04:56 dcook         hehe
04:56 dcook         I think I said something rather stupid, and you gave me a withering one
04:56 wizzycrayfish that can't be tru
04:56 magnuse       lulz
04:56 wizzycrayfish seriously?
04:56 dcook         haha yep
04:56 dcook         Well, worded slightly differently
04:56 wizzycrayfish hehe no way
04:56 dcook         <withering stare>
04:56 dcook         Back in 2012
04:56 wizzycrayfish what?
04:56 dcook         wizzycrayfish: You know, that's the first thing you ever wrote to me on IRC :p
04:56 dcook         I see a lot of wealthy people pushing around prams
04:56 wizzycrayfish <withering stare>
04:55 dcook         It is handy being in one's twenties when having a baby... no doubt about that
04:55 magnuse       i'm getting old
04:55 wizzycrayfish now get down in to the 2-3-4's and I'm a right wreck
04:55 magnuse       hehe
04:55 dcook         Or.. or... 2 hours. I had some good times in uni on 2 hours of sleep
04:55 magnuse       with less than 8 i'm a wreck
04:55 wizzycrayfish I'm ok with 6-7
04:55 dcook         I used to be a 9 hour person myself
04:54 * dcook       hasn't gotten 8 hours in...
04:54 dcook         Yeah?
04:54 dcook         I don't know why people even get more than 5
04:54 * magnuse     needs 8 hours
04:54 dcook         Yeah, it's a good night of sleep
04:54 wizzycrayfish that's enough to get some dreams in
04:54 wizzycrayfish 5 is alright tho
04:54 magnuse       :-)
04:54 dcook         ^_^
04:54 magnuse       ouch!
04:54 dcook         np
04:54 magnuse       thanks
04:54 * dcook       went to bed at 3am and woke up at 8am?
04:54 dcook         magnuse: Ok, that doesn't seem so bad. You have kids so I'll allow it
04:54 magnuse       24
04:54 dcook         wizzycrayfish: Ok, that does sound amazing
04:54 magnuse       23 minutes
04:53 dcook         magnuse: How long have you been awake?
04:53 wizzycrayfish appropriately sized in order :P
04:53 magnuse       our coins have all the wrong sizes
04:53 dcook         How big is your 50 cent piece?
04:53 dcook         Yeah?
04:53 dcook         I can have a pocketful of $2 coins and have it add up without weighing me down
04:53 wizzycrayfish nz does it properly.
04:53 dcook         I like that they're smaller
04:53 dcook         hehe
04:53 wizzycrayfish pft
04:53 dcook         Because good things come in small packages?
04:53 wizzycrayfish MAKES NO SENSE
04:52 * magnuse     is up at the regular time, but noone else is up yet, so i might as well try and work a little
04:52 wizzycrayfish why are the 2's smaller than the 1s?
04:52 dcook         Yeah?
04:52 dcook         wizzycrayfish: They're the royals of coins!
04:52 wizzycrayfish though oz's ones are so bewildering
04:52 dcook         Loonie and toonie...
04:52 dcook         One of my favourite things about Australia? They call them "one dollar coin" and "two dollar coin"
04:52 wizzycrayfish i loooove $1 and $2 coins
04:52 dcook         Back at my parents' house, I actually still have a few old Canadian $1 bills
04:52 wizzycrayfish hehe loonie and toonie
04:52 dcook         Fun fact ^
04:51 dcook         being used for money laundering and organized crime."
04:51 dcook         "Some of the most significant recent developments in Canadian currency were the withdrawal of the $1, $2, and $1,000 notes in 1987, 1996, and 2000 respectively. The $1 and $2 denominations have been replaced with coins, colloquially referred to as the "loonie" and "toonie" respectively. In 2000, the $1,000 note was removed at the request of the Solicitor General of Canada and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, as it was reported that they were largely
04:51 wizzycrayfish yeah I was just thinking that
04:51 dcook         Also...
04:51 dcook         Isn't magnuse up super early?
04:51 dcook         hehe
04:51 wizzycrayfish (also I'm on a different computer and I can't be bothered to set up my bouncer lol)
04:51 wizzycrayfish blame eythian
04:50 magnuse       crayfish?
04:50 wizzycrayfish magnuse \o/
04:50 wahanui       rumour has it wizzycrayfish is up early
04:50 magnuse       wizzycrayfish!
04:50 wahanui       bonjour, wizzycrayfish
04:50 wizzycrayfish hi
04:44 * magnuse     waves
02:36 dcook         Ahhhhhhh
02:36 dcook         But they're growing up!
02:36 dcook         Yeah, for sure
02:30 wizzycrayfish well I mean not nice becaues teeth hurt and stuff.
02:27 dcook         :)
02:16 wizzycrayfish noice!
02:15 dcook         Getting their first tooth :3
02:15 dcook         Mmm almost 6 months
02:12 wizzycrayfish i forget ^.^
02:12 wizzycrayfish how old is baby now?
02:11 dcook         And now organizing old photos on my desktop via an app on my phone as I hold a sleeping baby all evening
02:11 dcook         Been sidetracked by Outlander
02:11 dcook         I'm still only midway through TOS at the moment
02:10 dcook         hehe
02:10 wizzycrayfish because we all know picard is better. :P
02:10 wizzycrayfish as if there is a debate to be had there.
02:10 dcook         Or debating Captain Kirk vs Captain Picard
02:09 dcook         If we were arguing specific details from particular episodes... that would be full nerd
02:09 dcook         Nah, I think this is still low level nerd
02:09 dcook         lol
01:46 wizzycrayfish we have gone full nerd.
01:46 wizzycrayfish dunno crusher gave his mum some serious trouble occasionally :P
00:40 dcook         Wesley Crusher seemed eager to please, and that was the opposite of what I wanted to do
00:40 dcook         I was a bit more of a moody teenager
00:40 dcook         I think I disliked how chipper he seemed
00:40 dcook         hehe
00:39 jcamins       Everyone disliked brilliant young Wesley Crusher.
00:38 dcook         Maybe I just liked the borg aesthetic and order :p
00:38 dcook         Quite the paradox
00:38 dcook         I think I was pro-borg and yet anti-conformity
00:37 dcook         It's been a long time since I watched TNG, but I think I disliked Wesley Crusher :p
00:32 jcamins       dcook: you would've been brilliant young Wesley Crusher?
00:26 * dcook       probably would've preferred something from a sci fi movie rather than a suit and tie though
00:26 dcook         Although I think I liked the idea of a uniform just so that I didn't have to pick out clothes to wear when I did drag myself into the classroom..
00:26 dcook         Teenage dcook would not have been fond of tying a tie during high school
00:25 * dcook       read scrollback