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00:00 wizzyrea https://mentaltruths.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/blank-stare-incredulous-internally-screaming-stare-stink-eye-gif.gif?w=457&h=274
00:07 dcook lol
00:08 dcook wizzyrea: yes.
01:03 wizzyrea looking through that stuff is like staring into a gaping maw of evil
01:05 dcook I imagine everyone turns away from it and that's part of the problem :)
01:28 wizzyrea be rangi
01:28 wahanui Send a patch!
01:28 wizzyrea teehee
01:34 dcook hehe
01:50 mtompset if you look, your face will melt off. ;)
01:56 wizzyrea https://media.giphy.com/media/L4caiF7GTkgJa/giphy.gif like this?
03:41 mtompset wizzyrea: Yes, like that.
03:41 wahanui like that is hard to vote on. :)
03:43 mtompset Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea dcook :)
03:45 dcook Huh... didn't know that an underscore counted as whitespace to a regex
03:45 dcook At least to grep's
05:57 * magnuse waves
06:35 fridolin hie
06:40 magnuse bonjour papa fridolin
06:41 fridolin bonjour dady magnuse
06:41 fridolin ;)
06:41 magnuse :-)
06:41 fridolin I have a natural clock waking me up now
06:42 fridolin its the baby phone :D
06:42 magnuse hehe
06:42 magnuse i bet it is kind of hard to set it to wake you up exactly when you want it to?
06:49 papa bonjour et adieu at the same time, have to run off
07:01 magnuse bonjour sophie_m paul_p
07:02 sophie_m hi magnuse
07:02 sophie_m hello #koha
07:08 morgane hi !
07:10 drojf morning #koha
08:23 drojf oh, that's not very promising https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=KohaCon17_Proposals&action=historysubmit&diff=16910&oldid=16729
08:25 cait drojf: hm?
08:26 drojf "Tulong Aklatan backs out due to lack of planning by hosting parties."
08:26 cait oh
08:26 cait need to reread
08:27 cait yeah, not so promising :(
08:30 magnuse ouch
08:39 eythian https://blog.thimbleweedpark.com/books_desktop <-- relevant to your desktops perhaps
10:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16436 [QA Followup] - Use debug instead of info <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bcf7268f4f37ead02db8bc2da457ddfc9ce425c0> / Bug 16436 - Allow action logs to be logged to the koha log file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce8c55fba055e856af406587894c6d67c68bc681>
10:32 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:32 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 17.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 02, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
10:32 * drojf gets a coat
10:44 cait @wunder Konstanz
10:44 huginn cait: The current temperature in Luisenstraße, Konstanz, Germany is 22.2°C (12:37 PM CEST on August 02, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
10:45 cait drojf: want to switch?
10:51 magnuse @wunder boo
10:51 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 02, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
10:58 drojf cait: i think i'll keep mine
10:59 cait hmpf
11:03 marcelr hi #koha
11:21 magnuse druthb!
11:21 wahanui druthb is, like, an amazing person
11:22 eythian @wunder ams
11:22 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 16.8°C (1:19 PM CEST on August 02, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
11:22 druthb magnuse!
11:22 wahanui well, magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
11:22 druthb :D
11:23 magnuse hehe
11:25 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
11:25 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Stevenage, England, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 19.1°C (12:25 PM BST on August 02, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
11:48 oleonard Hi #koha
11:48 marcelr hi oleonard
11:49 drojf as far as i understand it, at the moment we have those things in PerlDependencies.pm, that we actively use in our code. i wonder if implicit dependencies should go in there too. or if that is a rule already and there are just a few missing
11:50 drojf like IO::Socket::IP, which is not in there, but needed… for the rest api i think
11:54 drojf opinions? ^
11:55 eythian If Koha depends on it, it should be in there.
11:55 eythian Otherwise you don't know what you're depending on.
11:58 drojf what i would in the long run is a process that ensures that an automatic nightly build of master packages will mostly work and sometimes fail, not the other way round like it would be now. declaring dependencies properly would definitely help
11:59 drojf *would like
12:00 drojf it will be easier without wheezy. i guess
12:06 drojf ah the thing with io::socket::ip was that it is a perl core module in 5.20. so maybe adding it to the file will create problems?
12:08 marcelr drojf: no need to add perl core modules to Dependencies
12:08 drojf marcelr: it is not for wheezty
12:08 drojf and i added it for the 16.05.01 package apparently
12:08 marcelr yeah that is 5.14?
12:09 marcelr but deprecated?
12:09 drojf but supported
12:09 drojf so people assume i build packages now :P
12:09 marcelr good for you LOL
12:09 drojf hey!
12:09 drojf :P
12:10 drojf anyway i did that last month apparently and people did not complain, so i add it to the file. and the exeption regarding perl version
12:11 drojf i wonder if i did not upload that to bz
12:12 drojf which i should have. then i would not have to do it again :P
12:24 oleonard Joubu: I can commit to testing Bug 15758 again this week if you can rebase again
12:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 4
12:26 Joubu oleonard: I can do anything for a signoff on this one :)
12:26 oleonard Yeah I know you're tired of rebasing :(
12:27 cait if someone could take a look at the latest comments on bug 6934 that would be nice too
12:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6934 enhancement, P3, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , New report Cash Register Statistics
12:28 cait i wonder if it's me :)
12:28 cait and a native speaker opinion on bug 13796 please
12:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Alert in OPAC when renewing an item with a rental charge
12:30 oleonard 13796 is a strangely difficult one
12:31 cait i think if someone said 'variant X' that would help
12:33 * oleonard voted for variant III
12:35 drojf why are some variants more expensive than others?
12:35 oleonard drojf: Don't just vote with your wallet
12:36 drojf that's a very privileged thing to say!
12:37 * oleonard lights a cigar with a $100 bill
12:38 drojf a $5 cigar
12:39 tcohen hola #koha
12:40 drojf hi tcohen
12:40 drojf tcohen: want to do another kohacon?
12:40 tcohen alright!
12:41 drojf w00t. you have a week to put the proposal in the wiki
12:41 drojf hurry!
12:41 tcohen hahaha
12:42 drojf i read that as "alright i have already started"
12:43 * tcohen is still recovering from the last one
12:43 * magnuse too
12:43 tcohen so I only have 1 week?
12:44 Joubu oleonard: rebased. Could you confirm 15407 apply correctly? (I was lazy and just attach the patch in conflict, but a previous one may fail)
12:46 oleonard Joubu: Yes 15407 applies okay for me
12:47 Joubu oleonard: thx!
12:48 * oleonard was going to try to test Bug 16955 but couldn't reproduce the error
12:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16955 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Internal Server Error while populating new framework
12:49 Joubu oleonard: using plack?
12:51 oleonard Joubu: I ran the 'start' command and then the 'enable' command for my instance. Is there more I should do?
12:51 Joubu oleonard: you need to enable, then restart plack
12:52 oleonard Okay thanks I'll try it again later
13:02 eythian drojf: there might be a system to detect things that are core modules, e.g. "libio::blah | perl-modules (>5.20)" sort of thing
13:02 eythian either that or you could manually put it in to the script
13:03 drojf i did that manually now (again). how would i check if something is a core module?
13:04 eythian there is a way
13:04 eythian I can't remember what it is
13:04 eythian drojf: corelist
13:05 eythian that's the way
13:05 eythian $ corelist IO::Socket::IP
13:05 eythian Data for 2015-12-13
13:05 eythian IO::Socket::IP was first released with perl v5.19.8
13:05 drojf excellent, thanks!
13:07 eythian or from a script: my @ms = Module::CoreList->find_modules(qr/^$mod$/);
13:07 magnuse yay! flights to and from marseille booked!
13:07 drojf nice
13:07 cait woohoo :)
13:07 drojf where are you staying?
13:07 * cait got her train tix
13:08 magnuse dunno where i'll stay yet, wanted to book flights first
13:08 drojf ah ok
13:08 cait when are your flights?
13:08 magnuse was looking at a place called paradise. cheap, and the pictures looked promising
13:08 drojf cait: how long does it take by train?
13:08 drojf ah cool
13:08 drojf i think i have a booking there
13:08 magnuse cait: i'll arrive very very late on sunday and leave really early on friday
13:09 drojf cait: is that the one you showed me?
13:09 tcohen oleonard: restart apache after teh enable
13:10 cait yep
13:12 drojf eythian: thanks, i will play with that later
13:12 magnuse kia ora paul_p!
13:13 magnuse paul_p: a little bird told me you were looking at getting a group discount at a hotel. any luck with that?
13:16 paul_p magnuse the little bird is right, but it seems the hotel forget me :(
13:16 magnuse stupid hotel ;-)
13:16 * cait nods
13:18 magnuse i think i'll just book at paradis and get it over with
13:19 drojf good idea
13:20 drojf i should find out how long i can attend so i can get flights
13:21 LibraryClaire I still think it's funny there's a direct train from London - marseille :D
13:21 cait heh
13:22 oleonard Are you going LibraryClaire?
13:24 LibraryClaire Investigating it. Have been told I could go, need to check prices etc though
13:25 magnuse room booked in paradise!
13:26 oleonard magnuse: Do they cancel your reservation if you misbehave?
13:26 LibraryClaire :)
13:26 magnuse i guess st. peter will be the concierge...
13:28 * magnuse wanders off
13:31 cait heh
14:11 tcohen Joubu: where are those Sereal removing patches?
14:11 Joubu on the original bug report
14:11 Joubu tcohen: bug 16715
14:11 wahanui i guess bug 16715 is passed qa
14:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Passed QA , Koha::Cache - Use Sereal for serialization
14:15 cait i tested it yesterday
14:16 cait seems to work ok - no more errors for me without the installed dependency
14:16 cait can we get this pushed?
14:27 tcohen khall: can we?
14:27 khall tcohen: can do!
14:28 * tcohen should finish configuring the 16.04 jenkins node
14:28 ashimema is LibraryClaire going to marseille
14:30 * ashimema tries to dig out when marseille is this year
14:30 tcohen 10~14 October
14:30 ashimema cheers
14:30 * tcohen just failed to buy his tickets, retrying
14:31 tcohen iberia+paypal--
14:34 * cait crosses fingers for tcohen's ticket booking
14:34 cait tcohen: which dates are you aiming for?
14:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16715: Use Sereal::Decoder and Sereal::Encoder instead of Sereal <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6d3e5a50b0c3fa104cae61211f3d2259dc60f52>
14:35 cait nice
14:43 Joubu common drojf, you broke my flush with 17027!
14:43 drojf Joubu: huh?
14:44 drojf it's not complete anyway
14:44 drojf so i will change it. what did i break?
14:44 Joubu drojf: I opened 17020-17026 and 17028-29, you took 17027
14:44 drojf ha
14:44 drojf sorry :D
15:12 cait khall: around?
15:12 khall yo
15:12 cait hah one sec finding bug
15:13 cait bug 16960 - could you take a look? I keep runnign into that
15:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16960 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Patron::Modifications should be fixed
15:14 cait one side effect is possibly broken self reg emails (the token is missing)
15:14 khall can do!
15:14 cait thx!
15:16 cait oleonard++ thx for renewal fee bug :)
15:18 tcohen can anyone give 16974 some love? it really breaks people plack setups
15:18 tcohen and it happens to be a bit trivial
15:19 cait bug 16974
15:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16974 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-plack should check and fix log files permissions
15:25 cait oleonard: can i ask you about one more?
15:25 cait native speaker thing :)
15:25 oleonard Sure
15:25 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6934#c103
15:25 huginn 04Bug 6934: enhancement, P3, ---, bouzid.fergani, Signed Off , New report Cash Register Statistics
15:26 cait it's about "active transactions" - what it means is 'everything where the patrons give money to the library'
15:26 drojf tcohen: i'll signoff 16974 when your kohacon bid is up :)
15:26 cait but i didn't get hte meaning and i think it would be nice to have something easier to understand
15:26 cait maybe 'Payments and credits'?
15:29 cait drojf: Benutzer mit dem meisten Ausleihen
15:29 cait it seems it has been there at least from 3.4
15:30 cait hm 3.2 too
15:38 drojf cait: ouch. have you changed it in pootle?
15:39 drojf cait: bug 17017
15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17017 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , Dependency fixes for 16.05
15:39 drojf i used it in the packages without even a signoff. any objections to pushing it?
15:39 cait drojf: all of them
15:40 cait nope - trusting you there
16:04 drojf cait: trusting me is always a good idea ;)
16:06 cait tsk
16:11 MauricioBR Good morning colleagues. Please I need your help. I need to import/update users from ldap to koha automatically, I do not remember if there is a perl script to do this??? ... please help me.
16:11 cait there is no way
16:12 cait sorry, currently you can't do 'push updates' automatically like that - the update is triggered by the user loggin in
16:12 cait you can do a patron import via csv - if that is an option - to update your data
16:16 MauricioBR ok i see. Thank you Cait. And do you think if there is a way to give the necesary parameters to import_borrowers.pl script with another perl script for this work automatically? Sorry my english is not good.
16:17 cait i think it's not so easy to do patron import from command line at the moment
16:17 cait there is no specific script for that -mostly done from the GUI
16:18 MauricioBR ok. Thank you very much for the information.
16:19 cait maybe try the mailing list
16:19 cait someone else might have solved your problem
16:27 cait oleonard: thx!
16:38 cait drojf ++
16:38 cait oleonard++
16:38 cait bye all
17:34 tcohen drojf: I trust you
18:23 oleonard UGH. Just lost hours of notes on Bug 15758 to a browser crash. So stupid of me not to save it earlier.
18:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 4
21:06 agoforth I just upgraded to Koha 16.05.02 with the Debian package and created a new instance. When I try to create a patron via the web interface I get this error: "DBIx::Class::Row::store_column(): No such column 'checkprevcheckout' on Koha::Schema::Result::Borrower at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm line 731" Did I do something wrong or is that a bug?
21:07 cait where did you update from?
21:07 cait it might be a bug, but i haven't seen it reported so far
21:08 agoforth I have http://debian.koha-community.org/koha in my apt sources and I upgraded with "apt-get upgrade".
21:09 cait i meant the version :)
21:09 agoforth Oh sorry, 16.05.01
21:13 agoforth If I comment out line 727 in Members.pm ($new_member->{checkprevcheckout} ||= 'inherit';) then the patron creation seems to work correctly. I guess the question is if the column should be in the borrowers table in my version.
21:17 cait hm
21:17 cait i am not aware of that column in master, let me see
21:18 cait seems to be a column in the categories table in mater
21:18 cait master
21:19 cait introduced by bug 6906
21:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Pushed to Master , show 'Borrower has previously issued $ITEM' alert on checkout
21:19 cait no, it shouldn't be there
21:19 cait could you file a bug pleaes?
21:20 cait the feature is only supposed to be in 16.11 (november release)
21:22 agoforth Sure, be glad to. I haven't filed a Koha bug before. I should create a new bug in Bugzilla, right?
21:24 cait yes - for product Koha
21:44 agoforth I wrote bug 17034
21:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17034 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Creating a new patron fails due to DB error
21:52 rangi ahh yeah i see the error
21:53 rangi this was introduced with commit 878402689eb652b09bed0d4f2c7e458d5c5493f4
21:53 rangi agoforth: are you comfortable editing a file?
21:53 agoforth Yes
21:54 rangi sudo vim /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm
21:54 rangi line 727
21:54 rangi try commenting that line out
21:54 rangi (you don't have to use vim of course whatever editor you choose)
21:55 agoforth Yep, I already figured out that would fix it. I even included that in the bug report. :)
21:55 rangi ah cool
21:55 rangi i foudn the patch
21:55 rangi it just needs a revert so ill leave a note on the bug for that
21:56 rangi Bug 16917 - Error when importing patrons, Column 'checkprevcheckout' cannot be null
21:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16917 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Error when importing patrons, Column 'checkprevcheckout' cannot be null
21:56 rangi that one, shouldnt be in 16.05
21:57 rangi hopefully can get a quick revert then a new package/tarball made
21:58 drojf that's what i get for doing the packages fast :P
21:58 rangi hehe
22:00 cait drojf: go to bed heh
22:01 cait i will :) night!
22:33 drojf uploading 16.05.02.01 without the patch
22:35 rangi thanks drojf
22:37 drojf done
22:38 drojf agoforth: if you feel adventurous you could try an upgrade and see if the problem is gone
22:42 agoforth drojf: I did the upgrade and tested again. Patron creation now works properly.
22:42 agoforth Thanks for the fast turnaround on the fix!
22:43 rangi yay!
22:43 drojf cool thanks for trying
23:44 drojf good night #koha