Time Nick Message 01:50 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea Boil watermelon long enough, and it will taste like candied sweet potato. It's very peculiar. 01:50 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 01:53 wizzyrea that sounds interesting 01:53 wizzyrea what compelled you to find this out? 01:54 jcamins Watermelon was inexpensive. 01:54 wizzyrea but why boil it? 01:54 jcamins Watermelon syrup for cookies! 01:54 jcamins Naturally. Why else? :P 01:54 wizzyrea hehe 01:55 wizzyrea my first reaction was 01:55 wizzyrea "naturally!" 01:55 wizzyrea o/*HIGHFIVE*\o 01:55 jcamins o/ 06:09 alex_a bonjour 06:40 gaetan_B hello 06:49 reiveune hello 07:27 fridolin hie 07:54 LibraryClaire morning #koha 08:28 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 08:28 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 18.0°C (9:20 AM BST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 08:36 atheia G'morning! 08:38 LibraryClaire morning atheia :) 09:21 asgeirr After having created at MARC framework, is there any way I can make this my preferred framework? When I copy catalogue via Z39.50, the default framework is chosen unless I actively choose to use my new framework 09:33 drojf asgeirr: you can choose a framework when you hit the right side of the import via z39.50 button 09:34 drojf asgeirr: if you want to change the behaviour of the import button itself, you could probably do that with jquery 09:34 drojf i don't think there is a syspref to set it (may be wrong) 09:49 drojf is it just me, or is it not possible to delete intranetuserjs? it does not want to save if i clear the field 09:50 asgeirr drojf, thanks for your reply. I know I can choose it from the dropdown. I was wondering if there was any way it would be preferred without making the cataloguer make this choice every time. 10:18 drojf asgeirr: you can do that with jquery. if there is an easier way i don't know it 10:24 pastebot "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "asgeirr: change default z3950 import server" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14 10:25 drojf asgeirr: something like that ^ there are probably several ways to do it 11:15 drojf hi again 11:17 eythian hi drojf 11:17 eythian @wunder ams 11:17 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 16.3°C (1:13 PM CEST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 11:18 eythian It's official, summer was on Sunday 11:18 drojf lol 11:18 drojf was it good? 11:18 eythian I was at a beer festival, so yeah 11:18 drojf great timing! 11:18 drojf "2016 i spent all summer at a beer festival" is a cool thing to say 11:19 eythian yep, it looked a bit risky a few days out. 11:19 eythian haha 11:21 drojf rangi protected his twitter account. bad luck for lurkers without a proper account :/ 11:21 drojf now i miss all the secrets 11:47 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 11:47 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 19.0°C (12:20 PM BST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 11:47 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 11:47 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). 11:54 oleonard Hi #koha 11:55 druthb Hi, oleonard. 11:55 drojf druthb! 11:55 drojf hi oleonard 11:55 druthb drojf! :D 11:56 druthb @wunder 77098 11:56 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 27.7°C (6:53 AM CDT on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening... 11:56 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 11:57 * oleonard wishes druthb happy air conditioning today 11:58 druthb :) Gonna be toasty here. With the humidity, it'll feel like up near 110F by mid-afternoon. 11:58 oleonard We had a rainy Fourth yesterday, but I'll take that over blazing hot any time 11:59 druthb yeah. It was wicked hot here, all weekend. 12:26 oleonard When the $Price template plugin is used, should the currency symbol be displayed? 12:56 tcohen hola #koha 12:57 drojf hi tcohen 12:58 tcohen hey drojf 13:22 * tcohen hopes US friends had great time on their independence day holiday 13:31 mveron Good afternoon / daytime #koha 13:50 drojf hi mveron 13:50 mveron hi drojf 14:10 mveron @later tell Joubu : Test plan of Bug 16849 needs clarification (should a restriction prevent discharges?) 14:10 huginn mveron: The operation succeeded. 15:19 bag morning 16:03 gaetan_B bye 16:25 TGoat hey #koha - can anyone tell me if a library currently using RFID can use the RFID UID in place of a barcode for an item? The library I'm speaking with doesn't want to use or create barcodes anymore and would like to consolidate down to just the RFID UID and not worry about adding barcodes anymore 16:26 druthb I would think so, TGoat, if the readers can handle that and treat 'em as if they were barcodes. 16:26 TGoat thank you druthb! 16:59 reiveune bye 17:58 kidclamp sql access 17:59 kidclamp stupid mouse drift 18:53 tcohen anyone to talk about logging? 18:55 nengard logging is good ;) 18:55 tcohen it seems to me that every place we log stuff 18:55 tcohen we log (on the info field) the old thing 18:55 tcohen so, logging happens before the action takes place 18:55 * kidclamp only dresses like a lumberjack, is not a logger 18:56 tcohen on logging holds 18:56 tcohen does it hold' 18:56 tcohen ? 18:56 tcohen :-D 18:58 nengard hmmmm 18:59 nengard that's a good question ... 18:59 nengard I kind of wish it logged the before and the after on all logs 18:59 nengard but for holds - the before is 'not on hold' so what are you logging? 18:59 nengard for patrons we log 'adding' 18:59 nengard and for catlaoging and items too 18:59 tcohen nengard: 18:59 tcohen in that case, you would log the creation 18:59 nengard we log the addition of an item - so could it be the addition of a hold 18:59 tcohen that's not the case i'm thinking of 19:00 kidclamp what case tcohen? 19:00 tcohen i was looking at ModReserve 19:00 tcohen which (of course) modifies a reserve 19:00 nengard oh 19:00 nengard hmmm 19:00 tcohen you pass several params, what to change 19:00 nengard again i'd like to see the old and the new - i want to know that it used to be pick up at library b and now it's pick up at library a 19:01 tcohen ok 19:01 kidclamp I think you'd have to log the whole thing (or all the fields it can affect) or log the hold as is and all parameters passed in 19:02 pianohacker diff is easy to calculate for a basic hashref, that would be great for the logs 19:02 tcohen ModBiblio puts something like BEFORE=> 19:02 tcohen pianohacker++ 19:03 tcohen do we have some lib for that already? 19:07 pianohacker hmm 19:09 tcohen how does the import diff work? 19:18 barton tcohen: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=798088 19:20 tcohen the import does it using a js lib 19:20 barton oh nevermind, that's doing a 'qx' 19:26 pianohacker yeah 19:26 tcohen DBIx should have something 19:26 tcohen it knows the dirty values 19:26 pianohacker tcohen: hashref could be as simple as %new{grep {$old{$_} ne $new{$_}} keys %new} 19:27 tcohen -.- 19:29 pianohacker whaaaat 19:29 pianohacker don't perl at me in that tone of voice 19:31 tcohen hahahaa 19:42 barton my new goal in life is to get pianhacker to say that to me. 19:42 barton *pianohacker. 19:43 pianohacker oh, I have confidence you'll find a way 19:43 * barton would be even more impressed if -.- was valid perl. 19:45 pianohacker in perl 6 everything can find a waaaay 19:45 pianohacker concatenates the set difference of two strings or some nonsense 19:45 tcohen hahahahahahahaha 19:47 * tcohen leaves the oneliner as plan b, tries Text::Diff for now 19:58 tcohen later #koha 20:03 agoforth I'm working on migrating a library from a different ILS to Koha and I want to migrate the current fines and the checkout history for each patron. Is there a way to do that through the "official" import methods (like the "Import patrons" tool), or should I just write some Perl and/or SQL to insert them into the database? 20:04 pianohacker I don't think there's an official method for fines or checkout history... DB insertion is your best bet 20:04 pianohacker agoforth: one thing; if you're inserting into old_issues, you'll need to reset auto_increment on the issues table 20:08 agoforth What should it be reset to? 20:09 agoforth You mean reset the auto-increment counter on issue_id to 1? 20:13 agoforth As an alternative strategy, would it make sense to call AddIssue() and AddReturn() for each checkout and let Koha handle the details of the database? 20:13 pianohacker agoforth: too many moving parts for too little benefits 20:14 pianohacker agoforth: reset it to whatever the highest issue_id is in old_issues, plus 1 20:14 agoforth Okay, that makes sense. 20:17 agoforth Are there any other tables or gotchas I need to be aware of, or can I just insert into accountlines for the fines and issues and old_issues for the current and historical checkouts? 20:34 eythian You can just add, it's how I always did it. The structure can get fiddly but isn't terrible. 20:55 agoforth Cool, thanks a lot for your help pianohacker and eythian. I appreciate it.