Time  Nick          Message
01:50 jcamins       @later tell wizzyrea Boil watermelon long enough, and it will taste like candied sweet potato. It's very peculiar.
01:50 huginn        jcamins: The operation succeeded.
01:53 wizzyrea      that sounds interesting
01:53 wizzyrea      what compelled you to find this out?
01:54 jcamins       Watermelon was inexpensive.
01:54 wizzyrea      but why boil it?
01:54 jcamins       Watermelon syrup for cookies!
01:54 jcamins       Naturally. Why else? :P
01:54 wizzyrea      hehe
01:55 wizzyrea      my first reaction was
01:55 wizzyrea      "naturally!"
01:55 wizzyrea      o/*HIGHFIVE*\o
01:55 jcamins       o/
06:09 alex_a        bonjour
06:40 gaetan_B      hello
06:49 reiveune      hello
07:27 fridolin      hie
07:54 LibraryClaire morning #koha
08:28 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
08:28 huginn        LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 18.0°C (9:20 AM BST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
08:36 atheia        G'morning!
08:38 LibraryClaire morning atheia :)
09:21 asgeirr       After having created at MARC framework, is there any way I can make this my preferred framework? When I copy catalogue via Z39.50, the default framework is chosen unless I actively choose to use my new framework
09:33 drojf         asgeirr: you can choose a framework when you hit the right side of the import via z39.50 button
09:34 drojf         asgeirr: if you want to change the behaviour of the import button itself, you could probably do that with jquery
09:34 drojf         i don't think there is a syspref to set it (may be wrong)
09:49 drojf         is it just me, or is it not possible to delete intranetuserjs? it does not want to save if i clear the field
09:50 asgeirr       drojf, thanks for your reply. I know I can choose it from the dropdown. I was wondering if there was any way it would be preferred without making the cataloguer make this choice every time.
10:18 drojf         asgeirr: you can do that with jquery. if there is an easier way i don't know it
10:24 pastebot      "drojf" at pasted "asgeirr: change default z3950 import server" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14
10:25 drojf         asgeirr: something like that ^ there are probably several ways to do it
11:15 drojf         hi again
11:17 eythian       hi drojf
11:17 eythian       @wunder ams
11:17 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 16.3°C (1:13 PM CEST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
11:18 eythian       It's official, summer was on Sunday
11:18 drojf         lol
11:18 drojf         was it good?
11:18 eythian       I was at a beer festival, so yeah
11:18 drojf         great timing!
11:18 drojf         "2016 i spent all summer at a beer festival" is a cool thing to say
11:19 eythian       yep, it looked a bit risky a few days out.
11:19 eythian       haha
11:21 drojf         rangi protected his twitter account. bad luck for lurkers without a proper account :/
11:21 drojf         now i miss all the secrets
11:47 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY
11:47 huginn        LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 19.0°C (12:20 PM BST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
11:47 drojf         @wunder berlin, germany
11:47 huginn        drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 25.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
11:54 oleonard      Hi #koha
11:55 druthb        Hi, oleonard.
11:55 drojf         druthb!
11:55 drojf         hi oleonard
11:55 druthb        drojf! :D
11:56 druthb        @wunder 77098
11:56 huginn        druthb: The current temperature in Montrose (Mandell Place), Houston, Texas is 27.7°C (6:53 AM CDT on July 05, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling).  Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening... 
11:56 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
11:57 * oleonard    wishes druthb happy air conditioning today
11:58 druthb        :)  Gonna be toasty here.  With the humidity, it'll feel like up near 110F by mid-afternoon.
11:58 oleonard      We had a rainy Fourth yesterday, but I'll take that over blazing hot any time
11:59 druthb        yeah.  It was wicked hot here, all weekend.
12:26 oleonard      When the $Price template plugin is used, should the currency symbol be displayed?
12:56 tcohen        hola #koha
12:57 drojf         hi tcohen
12:58 tcohen        hey drojf
13:22 * tcohen      hopes US friends had great time on their independence day holiday
13:31 mveron        Good afternoon / daytime #koha
13:50 drojf         hi mveron
13:50 mveron        hi drojf
14:10 mveron        @later tell Joubu : Test plan of Bug 16849 needs clarification (should a restriction prevent discharges?)
14:10 huginn        mveron: The operation succeeded.
15:19 bag           morning
16:03 gaetan_B      bye
16:25 TGoat         hey #koha - can anyone tell me if a library currently using RFID can use the RFID UID in place of a barcode for an item? The library I'm speaking with doesn't want to use or create barcodes anymore and would like to consolidate down to just the RFID UID and not worry about adding barcodes anymore
16:26 druthb        I would think so, TGoat, if the readers can handle that and treat 'em as if they were barcodes.
16:26 TGoat         thank you druthb!
16:59 reiveune      bye
17:58 kidclamp      sql access
17:59 kidclamp      stupid mouse drift
18:53 tcohen        anyone to talk about logging?
18:55 nengard       logging is good ;)
18:55 tcohen        it seems to me that every place we log stuff
18:55 tcohen        we log (on the info field) the old thing
18:55 tcohen        so, logging happens before the action takes place
18:55 * kidclamp    only dresses like a lumberjack, is not a logger
18:56 tcohen        on logging holds
18:56 tcohen        does it hold'
18:56 tcohen        ?
18:56 tcohen        :-D
18:58 nengard       hmmmm
18:59 nengard       that's a good question ...
18:59 nengard       I kind of wish it logged the before and the after on all logs
18:59 nengard       but for holds - the before is 'not on hold' so what are you logging?
18:59 nengard       for patrons we log 'adding'
18:59 nengard       and for catlaoging and items too
18:59 tcohen        nengard:
18:59 tcohen        in that case, you would log the creation
18:59 nengard       we log the addition of an item - so could it be the addition of a hold
18:59 tcohen        that's not the case i'm thinking of
19:00 kidclamp      what case tcohen?
19:00 tcohen        i was looking at ModReserve
19:00 tcohen        which (of course) modifies a reserve
19:00 nengard       oh
19:00 nengard       hmmm
19:00 tcohen        you pass several params, what to change
19:00 nengard       again i'd like to see the old and the new - i want to know that it used to be pick up at library b and now it's pick up at library a
19:01 tcohen        ok
19:01 kidclamp      I think you'd have to log the whole thing (or all the fields it can affect) or log the hold as is and all parameters passed in
19:02 pianohacker   diff is easy to calculate for a basic hashref, that would be great for the logs
19:02 tcohen        ModBiblio puts something like BEFORE=>
19:02 tcohen        pianohacker++
19:03 tcohen        do we have some lib for that already?
19:07 pianohacker   hmm
19:09 tcohen        how does the import diff work?
19:18 barton        tcohen: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=798088
19:20 tcohen        the import does it using a js lib
19:20 barton        oh nevermind, that's doing a 'qx'
19:26 pianohacker   yeah
19:26 tcohen        DBIx should have something
19:26 tcohen        it knows the dirty values
19:26 pianohacker   tcohen: hashref could be as simple as %new{grep {$old{$_} ne $new{$_}} keys %new}
19:27 tcohen        -.-
19:29 pianohacker   whaaaat
19:29 pianohacker   don't perl at me in that tone of voice
19:31 tcohen        hahahaa
19:42 barton        my new goal in life is to get pianhacker to say that to me.
19:42 barton        *pianohacker.
19:43 pianohacker   oh, I have confidence you'll find a way
19:43 * barton      would be even more impressed if -.- was valid perl.
19:45 pianohacker   in perl 6 everything can find a waaaay
19:45 pianohacker   concatenates the set difference of two strings or some nonsense
19:45 tcohen        hahahahahahahaha
19:47 * tcohen      leaves the oneliner as plan b, tries Text::Diff for now
19:58 tcohen        later #koha
20:03 agoforth      I'm working on migrating a library from a different ILS to Koha and I want to migrate the current fines and the checkout history for each patron. Is there a way to do that through the "official" import methods (like the "Import patrons" tool), or should I just write some Perl and/or SQL to insert them into the database?
20:04 pianohacker   I don't think there's an official method for fines or checkout history... DB insertion is your best bet
20:04 pianohacker   agoforth: one thing; if you're inserting into old_issues, you'll need to reset auto_increment on the issues table
20:08 agoforth      What should it be reset to?
20:09 agoforth      You mean reset the auto-increment counter on issue_id to 1?
20:13 agoforth      As an alternative strategy, would it make sense to call AddIssue() and AddReturn() for each checkout and let Koha handle the details of the database?
20:13 pianohacker   agoforth: too many moving parts for too little benefits
20:14 pianohacker   agoforth: reset it to whatever the highest issue_id is in old_issues, plus 1
20:14 agoforth      Okay, that makes sense.
20:17 agoforth      Are there any other tables or gotchas I need to be aware of, or can I just insert into accountlines for the fines and issues and old_issues for the current and historical checkouts?
20:34 eythian       You can just add, it's how I always did it. The structure can get fiddly but isn't terrible.
20:55 agoforth      Cool, thanks a lot for your help pianohacker and eythian. I appreciate it.