Time  Nick            Message
22:18 Dyrcona         rangi: Thanks.
22:18 * cait          waves
22:17 rangi           lament, its about the land wars in the 1860s
22:16 Dyrcona         rangi: Powerful... Is it a lament or a warning?
21:36 * wizzyrea      doesn't begin to understand, but likes it all the same
21:28 rangi           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSpWI7nGs1Q  <-- i cant stop watching this
21:27 wizzyrea        magnuse: I ended up at least getting the thing up and running again, and rangi finished it off. And now I know a new thing about plack instances
21:13 kidclamp        lololol
21:13 rangi           and i just dont have the energy
21:13 rangi           can someone with advice that isnt actually horrible answer that OS upgrade mail, or the poor person will follow paul A advice
21:13 rangi           oh god
19:10 cbrannon        When adding an item in the default framework, 952 a and b default to your branch, but when using the fast cataloging framework, 952 a defaults to the top of the list.  I also notice these fields are labeled differently from the default framework.  Can anyone confirm these for me before I file a bug?
18:46 jrm             i've got this fiurged out now, I can use a custom separator and then after run it and save it, in libre office I can split the column later. I need to delete the list of duplicates but keep one of the numbers in the list
18:06 oleonard        I agree with nengard, but I'm not an SQL wizard.
18:05 nengard         I might be wrong
18:05 nengard         not sure you can ... that's why we wrote it the way we did - cause it could be 2 or it could be 30
18:05 jrm             im pretty new to sql and all of this, im pulling up a duplicate report, how would i separate the 2 biblio numbers in the first column into 2 separate columns?
17:54 jrm             i just ran it to see the difference, got it!
17:54 oleonard        jrm: The reports in the SQL library are all written by different people for different reasons.
17:53 oleonard        jrm: So you can see the details of those records, I assume.
17:52 jrm             so another question then, whats the purpose of the links to the opac and staff client?
17:51 jrm             unfortunately I'm on the production server now which is ubuntu 14.04 and there is no support for our cannon printer in linux. so if someone needs to print while im working on here, i need to reboot into windows
17:51 oleonard        You're welcome.
17:50 jrm             i just read the logs to catch up, thank you
17:50 oleonard        jrm: Did you see my reply?
17:44 oleonard        jrm: Only the output is different. The latter has links to the OPAC and staff client.
17:44 oleonard        I see: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#All_bibs_without_items
17:43 oleonard        jrm: Are those in the SQL reports library?
17:37 jrm             question, whats the difference between the 2 reports " All bibs without items" and " Records without items"?
17:32 cait            bye all
17:29 cait            magnuse++
17:25 magnuse         cait++
17:25 magnuse         ah yes there was something odd about the db. no idea how that happened, but fixed now
17:15 magnuse         yeah, i tried to look at the db but maybe not enough
17:11 cait            i would compare the database structure - the tables
17:11 cait            ah.. you said you did
17:11 cait            hm >0
17:11 cait            <0?
17:11 cait            did you fill in the delay correctly?
17:08 magnuse         nope, not in the intranet-error.log at least
17:07 cait            maybe a mysql error showing
17:07 cait            did you check the logs?
17:07 cait            hmm
17:07 magnuse         this 3.22.7, they have not been updated a lot
17:07 cait            http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha/41240
17:06 magnuse         but that is a lie! a blatant lie, i tell you!
17:06 cait            are you sure the update ran fine?
17:06 cait            there was an email on the mailingl ist about this
17:06 magnuse         when saving there is a blue box that says "INPUT SAVED"
17:03 magnuse         oh, Restrict saves, but not Email, Print and SMS
17:02 magnuse         anyone else seen that?
17:02 magnuse         Delay and Letter save fine, but not Restrict, Email etc
17:01 magnuse         gah. one of my libraries can't save transport types on the "Overdue notice/status triggers" page
16:45 huginn          magnuse: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Joubu> tcohen: is it a question? :)
16:45 magnuse         @seen Joubu
16:41 cait            or note  on the bug :)
16:41 cait            pianohacker: might be too late - maybe send an email?
16:40 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Allow the use of Template Toolkit syntax for slips and notices
16:40 pianohacker     Joubu: so, to clarify, is bug 14757 ready to push or no?
15:10 magnuse         druthb_away: am now
15:07 reiveune        bye
14:20 eythian         http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/06/30/amsterdam-thief-steals-justice-ministers-bike/ <-- crime is out of control here
14:10 druthb          magnuse: read something somewhat startling the other day, and wanted to see what you knew about it...you around?
13:21 oleonard        Of course the patron import tool is so brittle it's probably a lost cause anyway
13:20 kidclamp        true, I was more positing that as a reason no one sponsored a development :-)
13:19 oleonard        kidclamp: Using reports requires that you keep your SQL up to date with changes to the database
13:18 nengard         let's get it written :) hehe
13:18 nengard         oleonard we need that tool!!!
13:08 kidclamp        oleonard: because no one asked for it? and you can use reports?
13:00 oleonard        Is there any particular reason why there isn't a tool in the staff client for exporting patrons?
12:38 oleonard        It should not be that fragile
12:37 oleonard        I do not like that patron search can fail because of bad data creating invalid JSON.
11:56 * LibraryClaire waves
11:44 * cait          waves
11:43 marcelr         hi oleonard
11:42 oleonard        Hi #koha
10:18 wahanui         hmmm... lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
10:18 magnuse         oh well, lunchtime
10:18 magnuse         restarting plack seems to have fixed that - not thrown out with every click
10:17 magnuse         nothing interesting in the logs
10:15 magnuse         oh neat, now i am thrown out with every step i take...
09:58 * magnuse       takes it to the mailing list
09:55 magnuse         timeout is the default too
09:44 cait            ah, was only an idea
09:43 magnuse         cait: yes, session storage is the same for all instances
09:43 magnuse         psgi files in /etc/koha/sites/instance/ are probably not updated, i think the only one koha knows about is the genera one in /etc/koha/plack.psgi
09:42 magnuse         i just went from 3.22.7 to 16.05.01, so i dunno about 3.22.8
09:41 magnuse         yay!
09:39 drojf           oh i have, working on koha :D
09:38 drojf           i want fun time too
09:38 wizzycray       with my problems sorted, I'm away to fun time now. :)
09:37 wizzycray       thank you for your attention drojf :) always better to troubleshoot with a friend
09:27 drojf           heh. i know that feeling
09:25 wizzycray       I wish i had all the time in the world to understand exactly how every bit works >.<
09:25 wizzycray       generally because maybe there are exceptions and I don't know about it
09:24 wizzycray       well I don't think (but I don't know!) if there was something special about it or whether it was just not updated because it was in /etc and generally speaking, we don't update files in /etc/koha/sites/instance/
09:24 drojf           but if that explodes for everyone that had their own config… :/
09:22 wizzycray       well, it's working now so yay
09:19 drojf           that sounds weird. and wrong
09:19 drojf           no it really shouldn't
09:19 wizzycray       an upgrade from 3.22.05 to 3.22.08 should not be this dramatic >.<
09:18 wizzycray       this one, plack was running before the upgrade
09:18 wizzycray       well... i'm trying to think, maybe it only generates that file when plack is enabled? I dunno I'd have to test it
09:17 drojf           which would not be nice, but possible
09:17 drojf           wizzycray: i don't know, but it may be the case that it just does not expect plack to be enabled manually before. i just turned it on when it was in koha
09:13 wizzycray       and it exploded rather spectacularly
09:13 wizzycray       because ermmm mine weren't
09:11 wahanui         Hmm.  No matches for that, wizzycray.
09:11 wizzycray       are the plack.psgi configs supposed to be updated when you install a new version of Koha? the one in /etc/koha/sites/instance/
09:11 wizzycray       this will sound like a dumb question, it is I admit...
09:10 wizzycray       yeah wow, it was a mismatch in my plack config
09:05 drojf           *upgraded
09:05 drojf           hm no have not seen it. i will have a look later, but i think i already upgrades koha with plack to 3.22.8
09:05 wizzycray       the error was in the plack log
09:05 wizzycray       admit* even
09:05 wizzycray       admt not trying theintranet
09:05 wizzycray       opac was where I noticed it
09:04 wizzycray       in general
09:04 drojf           wizzycray: where did you get it? or in general?
09:03 wizzycray       i mean maybe? idk.
09:03 wizzycray       it rather looks like there's a mismatch between my plack.psgi and the canonical one for 3.22.8
09:02 wizzycray       oh gotya
09:02 cait            wizzycray: no installations with plack and that versions here
09:02 cait            maybe drojf or magnuse?
09:02 wizzycray       ?
09:02 cait            we are nto there yet
08:53 wizzycray       with plack
08:53 wizzycray       Can't locate object method "clear_syspref_L1_cache" via package "C4::Context" at /etc/koha/sites/hlt/plack.psgi line 51. has anyone spotted this on on 3.22.8?
08:51 cait            hm the sesseion storage setting is the same for both?
08:37 magnuse         turning off plack makes the logging out go away, so it is deffo plack-related
08:36 magnuse         also, the logged-in-branch-name shows with garbled æøå
08:26 magnuse         all sites use memcached, including for storing sessions
08:26 magnuse         same behaviour before and after upgrade 3.22.7 -> 16.05.01
08:26 magnuse         i do not get thrown out when deleting items, but at other random times
08:24 magnuse         weird, on my prod server i have a couple sites that have been running under plack for a while, without any complaints. i added another couple the other day, and here the librarians are thrown out with a "session expired" error every now and then, and apparently always when trying to delete an item
08:22 magnuse         what he said
08:22 drojf           eythian: only one way to find out
08:21 eythian         I wonder if anyone would really notice if I just went home to watch TV. (Also, I have a shiny new TV I want to play with. Need to find some 3D blurays to see how they go.)
08:19 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.6°C (10:11 AM CEST on June 30, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
08:19 eythian         @wunder ams
08:02 * LibraryClaire waves
08:00 eythian         hello magnuse
08:00 magnuse         kia ora eythian
07:49 eythian         hi
07:47 LibraryClaire   hi marcelr
07:46 * magnuse       waves at all the cool people
07:45 cait            hi marcelr :)
07:45 drojf           hi marcelr and cait
07:45 marcelr         magnuse:
07:45 marcelr         hi LibraryClaire cait drojf
07:39 LibraryClaire   hi cait
07:39 * cait          waves
07:38 LibraryClaire   hi drojf
07:38 drojf           hi LibraryClaire
07:36 LibraryClaire   hi #koha
07:25 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 22.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on June 30, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:25 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
07:13 magnuse         w00t!
07:13 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:13 magnuse         @wunder boo
07:13 * magnuse       waves
06:52 fridolin        hie
06:49 wahanui         privet, reiveune
06:49 reiveune        hello
06:41 marcelr         hi #koha
06:40 gaetan_B        hello
06:22 drojf           morning #koha
06:10 alex_a          bonjour
01:56 dcook           heya wizzyrea :)
01:31 wizzyrea        hi dcook
00:35 * dcook         waves