Time  Nick            Message
00:00 irma            good morning jamesb and welcome back
00:00 irma            we are keen to hear some highlights downlights and dimlights ;-)
00:00 irma            how were the two last weeks?
00:03 BobB            back to base irma :)
00:04 irma            have a nice day all in #koha ;-)
00:04 irma            indeed back to base for me
05:48 reza            Can anyone give an advise?
05:49 reza            I have 140,000 bibliography records and 11,000 users on my Koha. How much RAM and CPU do I need for the best performance????
06:10 mtj             reza:  hmm, perhaps 8gig ram,  and some 4 core cpu
06:52 reiveune        hello
06:52 wahanui         privet, reiveune
06:55 reza            I'm running it on 8gig RAM and 8 Core CPU and any opac search takes 20 sec. I've checked Zebra is running and if I search with Zebra in command line it's so very fast. It seems that something is making Koha so slow. The server is only running Koha latest version  (debian) on Apache.
06:55 * magnuse       waves
06:58 magnuse         @wunder boo
06:58 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
06:58 magnuse         \o/ summer!
06:59 alex_a          bonjour
07:04 magnuse         god dag!
07:04 wahanui         hmmm... god dag is later?
07:05 magnuse         nah, god dag is now!
07:05 magnuse         @wunder marseille
07:05 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:05 magnuse         huh, same as here?!?
07:05 magnuse         @wunder thessaloniki
07:05 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 27.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
07:12 drojf1          morning #koha
07:13 magnuse         moin drojf
07:13 drojf           hei magnuse
07:22 gaetan_B        hello
08:03 magnuse         kia ora Francesca and cait
08:03 * magnuse       joins #folio on freenode
08:03 eythian         hi
08:03 * cait          waves
08:03 cait            only here this morning for a bit
08:04 magnuse         hiya eythian
08:05 * magnuse       wonders if joann would like to visit the hackfest in marseille
08:05 eythian         @wunder ams
08:05 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 15.2°C (10:04 AM CEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
08:05 eythian         not a very summery day
08:05 magnuse         @wunder boo
08:05 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
08:06 magnuse         a *very* summery day
08:06 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
08:06 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:06 drojf           a so-so summery day
08:09 drojf           ok so i found the patch that removes readonly and readonly::xs. i readded it to perldeps because it was readded to the control file. it would be nice to know if koha needs it or not :P
08:09 eythian         remove it, and try it out.
08:09 drojf           bug 14066
08:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14066 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Koha code does not really use Readonly
08:09 drojf           bug 16588
08:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16588 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , libreadonly-perl (and libreadonly-xs-perl) need to be added as dependencies
08:16 eythian         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmmVGPdcItM
08:17 reza            my zebra is taking so much RAM and Disk Space
08:17 eythian         (a talk from the current Perl pumking)
08:17 reza            and it keeps getting worse
08:19 eythian         zebra is not known to be RAM hungry, ime. Disk is proportional to the amount of records you have.
08:19 reza            I have 140,000 records
08:19 reza            11,000 users
08:20 Francesca       hi
08:20 eythian         I can't remember the rough ratio of record count to index size any more. But I'd expect that to be reasonably substantial.
08:21 eythian         hi Francesca
08:22 Francesca       sup
08:22 eythian         cloudy, drizzly, not warm. Typical summer's day.
08:58 magnuse         oh my. my test server with 30 odd koha instances did not like the deamonization of zebra, methinks
09:09 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
09:11 magnuse         hiya LibraryClaire
09:12 LibraryClaire   hey magnuse :)
09:16 mahmud          hello
09:16 mahmud          any one here
09:17 mahmud          help me regarding staff patron creation
09:17 magnuse         mahmud: just state your question and if anyone can answer they will :-)
09:18 mahmud          i am new in koha. i have fresh installed but i can not create staff patron as it was described that i have logged in as database administrator
09:18 mahmud          but there shows a message
09:19 mahmud          Cannot add patron  There are no patron categories defined. Please add a patron category.
09:19 magnuse         hm. debian/koha-common.default has setting relating to the indexer, but where does it end up on the server after installation?
09:19 mahmud          i added a patron category
09:20 mahmud          i don't know this
09:20 mahmud          actually i have no idea
09:20 magnuse         mahmud: don't mind my question :-)
09:21 magnuse         what happens after you create a patron category?
09:21 mahmud          patron category creates but can not relating from to the staff patron
09:22 magnuse         mahmud: when you go to Patrons and click on Add patron, the category you created does not show up?
09:22 mahmud          yep
09:23 mahmud          oh i gotta go now someone is calling me very urgent situation
09:24 mahmud          i will be back after one hour
09:24 magnuse         welcome back!
09:24 wahanui         cait abducted me.
09:25 mahmud          oh
09:25 mahmud          i need to go
09:25 mahmud          very urgent
09:26 mahmud          it will be very appricitated
09:26 mahmud          if we meet again
10:42 magnuse         bbiab
11:30 magnuse         bag++ nengard++ for going on floss weekly to talk about koha!
11:31 magnuse         druthb: looking forward to seeing your interview with larry when i can find the time for it
11:31 druthb          :)
11:33 magnuse         hm, guess my 20 year anniversary with perl is coming up next year
11:36 * druthb        would sing "Happy Birthday" to nengard, but it's more entertaining to watch her turn red.  Y'all don't wanna hear me sing anyway.
12:23 magnuse         @wunder boo
12:23 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 21.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling).
12:23 magnuse         weird it is
12:27 liw             @wunder hel
12:27 huginn          liw: Error: No such location could be found.
12:27 liw             @wunder helsinki
12:27 huginn          liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 15.0°C (3:20 PM EEST on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
13:32 oleonard        Is there an advantage to having both userflags and user_permissions, or is it just an artifact of Koha's history?
13:37 Joubu           oleonard: I have always thought that it was for performance
13:37 Joubu           we do not need to check the permission if a module is flagged
13:37 Joubu           permissions*
13:39 Joubu           ha no, you are not asking about borrowers.flags
13:39 Joubu           :)
13:39 oleonard        Joubu: I'm asking about the whole thing, and I think I understand your response
13:40 Joubu           the 2 tables userflags and user_permissions make sense to me
13:42 oleonard        Joubu: But not borrowers.flags? :)
13:42 Joubu           oleonard: yes, for perf
13:44 Joubu           but it should be confirmed by a benchmark to make sure it's really useful
16:03 reiveune        bye
17:20 drojf           evening
17:49 tcohen          @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:49 huginn          tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.3°C (2:45 PM ART on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
17:49 oleonard_       @wunder 45701
17:49 huginn          oleonard_: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 37.2°C (1:49 PM EDT on June 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
17:50 * oleonard_     packages up a few degrees in a box and sends them to tcohen
17:51 tcohen          thanks oleonard!
18:51 * magnuse       proffers the evening wave
18:58 oleonard        Bye #koha
19:41 archer121       I am trying to import patrons to koha and I get this: Software Error: DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Duplicate entry 'B15497CE' for key 'cardnumber' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm line 731
19:41 archer121       But I can confirm that 'B15497CE' for key 'cardnumber' is unique in the csv file.
19:42 archer121       What could have gone wrong?
19:46 archer121       but the error goes away if I don't give a default value for registeration date
19:47 archer121       is it a bug?
20:02 * cait          waves
20:15 LibraryClaire   hi cait
20:15 rangi           morning
20:15 LibraryClaire   hi rangi
20:19 * cait          waves at LibraryClaire
20:19 cait            and hi rangi too
20:21 * LibraryClaire waves
20:33 eythian         Ssh, Game of Thrones is on
20:35 LibraryClaire   seen it
20:35 wahanui         I haven't seen 'it', LibraryClaire
20:35 LibraryClaire   :D
20:35 drojf           that person everybody likes dies
20:36 LibraryClaire   don't give it away ;)
20:38 cbrannon        Can anyone tell me if there is a way to supress the item type column in a record on the OPAC, aside from jQuery?
20:38 cbrannon        Just wondering if there is a setting that I am missing.
20:44 eythian         drojf: that happened at the start
21:39 cbrannon        Can anyone tell me if there is a way to supress the item type column in a record on the OPAC, aside from jQuery?
21:42 cait            css
21:43 cbrannon        So, no pref?
21:43 cait            css will do it :)
21:44 cait            just make sure you hide th th and the td - they have probably different names
21:44 cait            the heading and the cells below
21:44 cait            no pref
21:46 cbrannon        okay  Thanks
23:37 mtj             hey #koha, is anyone about to test a url for me ?
23:39 rangi           yep
23:42 mtj             hiya rangi, i'll pm you ;0)