Time Nick Message 06:03 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 06:11 drojf morning #koha 06:37 reiveune hello 06:49 * magnuse waves 06:49 magnuse @wunder boo 06:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 07:00 fridolin hie ther 07:03 alex_a bonjour 07:03 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:43 gaetan_B hello 08:08 LibraryClaire hi #koha 08:18 eythian LibraryClaire: hi, former EU citizen 08:18 LibraryClaire oh, don't :( 08:18 drojf eythian: nl is next 08:19 eythian Nobody actually listens to Wilders 08:19 drojf german media does 08:19 eythian they should stop it 08:19 drojf i agree 08:19 eythian > From the Haha, not funny-Dept: "'Brexit' to be followed by Grexit. Departugal. Italeave. Fruckoff. Czechout. Oustria. Finish. Slovakout. Latervia. Byegium." 08:20 drojf i saw that. there is none for germany ^^ 08:20 eythian I assume it'd be Netheragain here or something 08:22 drojf germs 08:22 drojf no 08:22 drojf germans 08:22 drojf i dont know how that worked 08:23 eythian wahanui: germs 08:23 wahanui i guess germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 08:23 eythian wahanui: germs 08:23 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 08:45 magnuse noway 08:45 magnuse oh, guess we never joined 08:46 eythian http://www.der-postillon.com/2016/06/brexit-insel.html <-- "Punishment for Brexit: EU bans british to a desolated rainy island in the north atlantic ocean" 08:58 magnuse iceland? 09:02 eythian "When the british leave the EU, the EU has free space again. Exactly 1 GB" 09:09 magnuse lulz 09:14 atheia eythian: space is cheap, and it's virtually always worth trading space for performance -> bad deal :-( 09:26 eythian And that's ashimema out 09:29 drojf i hope the uk can stay in our internet 09:30 atheia ^^ 10:19 * cait waves 10:22 LibraryClaire hi cait 11:13 LibraryClaire sorry, i should let you work 11:13 LibraryClaire eurgh brain malfuntion 11:41 oleonard Hi #koha 11:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16527: Restore sticky due date behavior <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33f1354b7b50390b43e5a2f66e1abe58817e6d4d> / Bug 16534: (followup) - Tidy AddIssue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1fa65f6375b73b8e2aff3139885971f08bb27a3> / Bug 16534: (followup) Correct tiny typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe02c9fdf0550caf0b9a7e 11:46 cait hi oleonard :) 11:53 Tylathos Hey :) 11:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16612 - Cannot set "Until date" for "Enrollment period" for Patron Categories <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2af028bb13273d2b13f6e5cf417436fc0c8764f7> / Bug 16591: Fix CSRF in opac-memberentry <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=779fa7c6da03fd3173de4a5c21d5615b83ac3ee4> / Bug 11490 - DBRev 16.06.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm 12:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16737 - Error when deleting EDIFACT message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f2dcfd2e93dc444cc92e62cd8be2dbb29f7cb08> / Bug 16731: Use INSERT IGNORE when inserting a syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5bb0fac3f9953379b80752cd9df2120ccc0612f> / Bug 16724: Fix link to the online documentation links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=c 12:40 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 12:40 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 34.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 12:41 eythian @wunder ams 12:41 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 20.9°C (2:26 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 12:41 eythian drojf: I win 12:41 drojf no, it's nice 12:41 drojf ;) 12:41 eythian no, it's 34° 12:43 nengard @weather 78754 12:43 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 24.4°C (7:31 AM CDT on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 12:43 drojf it's really not bad 12:43 drojf just the work part ;) 12:43 drojf or, no lake office part 12:44 magnuse @wunder boo 12:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (2:20 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 12:45 drojf i forgot a beer in the freezer last night. i remembered when it was already frozen, but before it could explode. now its in the fridge waiting for me to come home. could be worse 12:45 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:45 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 21.1°C (8:45 AM EDT on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 12:46 oleonard Doing pretty good here, except that it's cloudy and I live in Ohio. 12:46 drojf but i think i will postpone figuring out why the control file looks very different depending on the koha repo i used to the more thunderstormy weekend 12:46 drojf packaging and thunderstorms seems like a good combination 12:47 drojf oleonard: ohio in general, independent of the weather? 12:48 eythian drojf: in my experience, a) it'll be decarbonated, b) it probably won't defrost in the freezer very fast at all 12:48 eythian err 12:48 eythian defrost in the fridge 12:49 oleonard drojf: I have good reasons to live in Ohio, but none of them have to do with the fact that it is Ohio. 12:49 cait drojf: thunderstorms? i am jealous 12:49 cait *melts* 12:49 drojf eythian: i defrosted in the bath tub because it was night and i was not sure if would survive 12:49 drojf *it 12:49 eythian drojf: ah OK 12:49 drojf but yeah it will probably not be very fresh 12:50 drojf cait: they are promised for tomorrow, we will see 12:50 eythian I've never let one sit for a while after melting though, it might recarbonate 12:50 drojf they love to just pretend and then skip berlin :/ 12:50 eythian yeah, they often do that here too 12:50 eythian except the other night where it came past in full force 12:51 drojf and then you complain 12:51 drojf ;) 12:51 eythian well of course 12:51 eythian that's what the weather is for 12:51 drojf true 12:51 drojf i should complain more about the heat and like it secretly 12:52 drojf i already made sip auth work today, don#t feel complainy 12:52 drojf ah that is something to complain about 13:04 oleonard Idea: Bugzilla email announcing the anniversary of your bug report with no changes. "Hey maybe you ought to give some more details or close it or something?" 13:04 drojf +1 13:04 cait hehe 13:05 nengard +1 13:06 magnuse +1 13:06 nengard oleonard many years ago I remember doing a batch update at the request of the community - closing MANY old bug reports 13:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16644: Plack: Use to_app to remove warning about Plack::App::CGIBin instance <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d69d874a3f749687c2ff9a8d2a400378dfc94ff6> / Bug 16462 - Change default sorting of circulation patron search results to patron... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=38d1a1862dcc26e284953fd383150816a183a7d5> 13:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16718 - Translatability: Fix problems with sentence splitting by in... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0712048030c44ba731780916935f6d9d352d4c0b> / Bug 16697: Translatability: Fix problem with isolated "'s"in request.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2289c8c93014b7d9c14444d121651277bcee6232> / Bug 16742: (follow-up)Remove unused template subject.tt <http: 13:23 tcohen morning 13:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16751: What is sitemaper? <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e566de51fe6f2e966158f97682f9a5aaecab974> 13:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16400 [Follow-up] Proposal to uniform the placement of submit buttons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b77bd31fbf9c3a1b1feaa29a61e9d0805a1dec2d> / Bug 16400: Use the fa-times icon for Cancel <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9d239dabad5459bf08dbf135f57d8186ff11e3c> / Bug 16400: Restore the previous stack order behavior <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 13:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16494 - Remove the use of "onclick" from some patron pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0336f32b6592fa4a714eeb9c217bf7150e2fc90f> / Bug 16490: Tidy updateLink and updateAllLinks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9282eca291e44da795cc62bc8ff5593107c5cb5> / Bug 16490 - Add an "add to cart" link for each search results in the staff client <http://git.koha-c 13:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16602 - Remove the use of "onclick" from several templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=458ce34a1dbfff9a5c5a696560ffdc5b8afa041a> / Bug 16601: Update of italian MARC21 files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=718a0a7d143a1291021836b570e597cb564fa7c2> / Bug 16557 - Remove the use of "onclick" from several include files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb 14:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16772 - Change label from 'For:' to 'Library:' to ease translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4747e6155efc9902003ae3ae4c14535fc7ece015> / Bug 16770: Remove 2 other occurrences of libmemoize-memcached-perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=735789d71aa802385b282c79edad43d2a6fb58d6> / Bug 16770: Remove Memoize::Memcached dependency <http://git.koha-commun 14:21 cait khall: bug 12178 - does the page now reload? 14:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12178 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Serial claims: exporting late issues with the CSV profile doesn't set the issue claimed 14:22 khall cait: not sure what you mean 14:22 cait when you claim - it didn't reload the page 14:22 cait so you didn't see you claimed 14:23 cait and were likely to claim again - because the page doesn't refresh 14:23 cait see my last comment 14:23 khall I see now, I missed that comment. I'll re-check and add a followup if need be 14:25 cait thx! 14:30 Joubu cait: it sounds like another bug to me 14:34 cait Joubu: but it's a new feature that the csv-button claims...i just worry about the error potential 14:34 cait it's not as bad as if it was the email one, as you don't send something 14:35 cait but it's still quite confusing to the user - i'd have to explain that in every training i think to avoid them from wondering 14:35 cait = unexpected behaviour 14:36 Joubu it's more a bug fix than a new feature. 14:36 Joubu Anyway it must be fixed 14:36 Joubu just saying it could be on another bug report 14:36 cait ok 14:36 cait khall: culd you post your follow-up to a new bug? 14:36 Joubu this patch is 2 years old... 14:37 cait i can file it 14:37 khall cait: definitely! 14:37 Joubu 1 14:37 cait 1? 14:37 wahanui hmmm... 1 is default, it would seem. 14:37 khall cait: just give me the bug # 14:38 Joubu The patch is 1 year old, the bug is 2, nevermind :) 14:38 cait i am filing it right now 14:40 cait khall: bug 16808 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16808 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Serial claims: claiming via CSV export doesn't reload the page 14:40 khall thanks cait! 14:40 cait made it a bug and linked it 14:40 Joubu khall: did you read the discussion on bug 11144 before passing qa on it? 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11144 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Fix sequence of cronjobs: automatic renewal - fines - overdue notices 14:41 Joubu I don't think it should be pushed as it 14:41 cait i have to reread 14:41 cait hoped khall would take a look 14:41 cait i am working too much currently and am training libraries the next 2 weeks :( 14:41 cait if someone want to adopt and fix it that's fine by me 14:42 cait as long as the basic sequence is kept - because i really think that is the right one, even if we have no dependencies on finished or not 14:42 cait renew - fine - overdues (because you can print the fine in the overdues - and otherwise it will be 0 when there actually IS a fine a few minutes later...) 14:43 khall Joubu: so your issue is with the possibility that automatic_renewals.pl or fines.pl could fail and halt the sequence? 14:45 Joubu khall: see comments 31 and 32, the behavior differs from package and non-package installs 14:46 cait i might have been wrong about that smeone said 14:46 cait it hought that for packages they wait on finishing... but i am not sure if that's totally true 14:46 cait if it fails, the next one might still start 14:46 cait maybe we could fix sequence now and worry about dependencies separately - this seems to be a bigger topic 14:47 cait the worry galen had initially i thik was that one job has actually not finished when the next one starts 14:47 Joubu what I suggested in my last comment 14:47 cait i think we shoudl be able to avoid that at least somehow? 14:58 khall Joubu: so are you suggesting we split the patch and move the crontab.example issue to a new bug? 15:00 stjAthenITguy Hey guys, anyone around? I have a few questions about some reports. Thanks in advance! 15:00 khall Joubu: cait: if you have issues with those bugs, why did you not set them to Failed QA? 15:01 Joubu khall: when I want to get other QA pov, I do not change the status 15:02 cait khall: I did, then Joubu (dev) answered and wnated me to respond 15:02 Joubu khall: I suggested to fix the order in this patch and move the errors handling to another bug 15:02 cait it's always good to read the last comments 15:02 cait ah 15:02 khall cait: I do, but sometimes that don't sink in ; ) 15:02 cait i was talking serials claims... are we taling about the cronjobs oneß 15:03 khall I think maybe we need a new status to flag bugs as looking for a second QA opinion 15:03 Joubu I think so :) 15:03 Joubu khall: maybe a bz tag "important" would be usefull 15:04 Joubu at comment level I mean 15:04 khall Joubu: as long as we can get everyone on the team to do that. I'm all for it. I also think maybe a tag *would* be a good idea 15:04 khall something where a qa team member can just pull up a list of all bugs that need a second opinion on them 15:05 khall brb 15:14 cait tags are personal 15:14 cait i think we need a keyword 15:14 cait hm comment level 15:14 cait i think my brain is not running well... too hot 15:14 cait nooo... not in discusson... 15:15 khall cait: only for a bit ; ) 15:15 khall cait: I think the keyword is the way to go, who can add one? 15:15 cait @wunder konstanz 15:15 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 31.2°C (5:15 PM CEST on June 24, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 15:15 cait rangi i think 15:15 cait i can't 15:16 khall something like "QAinput" or something 15:16 cait not sure how to add something on comment level 15:16 khall cait: any opinion on what it should be? 15:16 khall Joubu: ^ 15:18 Joubu I think I am lost 15:18 Joubu I wanted to say: a tag at comment level 15:18 Joubu to highlight important comments on a given bug 15:18 khall Joubu: we want to add a keyword to indicate a bug is looking for a second opinion from the qa team. 15:19 Joubu ok so 2 different needs 15:19 khall I proposed QAInput, but I don't care for it. Maybe qa_opinion? 15:19 Joubu I really don't care :) 15:19 khall me neither ; ) 15:20 Joubu THIS_IS_AN_IMPORTANT_BUG_AND_QA_POV_ARE_REQUESTED? 15:20 Joubu maybe a bit too long 15:20 khall @later tell rangi can you add a new keyword to bugzilla to indicate it needs a second opinion from the qa team? qa_opinion or whatever you think it should be. 15:21 huginn khall: The operation succeeded. 15:21 khall Joubu: check by followup up 11144 15:21 khall on bug 11144 that is 15:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11144 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, In Discussion , Fix sequence of cronjobs: automatic renewal - fines - overdue notices 15:22 cait Joubu: i like that :P 15:23 drojf "FOLIO, which stands for the Future of Libraries is Open". press release written in microsoft word, docx 15:23 drojf sorry, i like detail :P 15:23 cait hehe just reading it too 15:33 Tylathos wow a new project, which want to change the way software works in an area. How new and surprising 15:34 cait heh 15:35 Tylathos and the project name is an acronym, that is so innovative 15:37 cait I guess we will have to wait and see how it turns out 15:57 khall oleonard: is in line css verboten? 15:57 khall bug 16794 15:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16794 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , Revise layout for Admistration > Patron categories 15:57 oleonard khall: Not necessarily, but I'll take a look 15:57 khall thanks! 16:26 reiveune bye 16:29 gaetan_B byebye 16:31 oleonard khall: Your instinct is correct about Bug 16794. The inline style is an error. 16:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16794 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Signed Off , Revise layout for Admistration > Patron categories 16:40 kidclamp Joubu - I will double check on 14902 - I thought I was hitting issues when I didn't add USE Koha 16:43 Joubu kidclamp: I did not test, but it should work without 16:46 Joubu bye #koha! 16:47 kidclamp bye Joubu 18:02 oleonard I didn't realize Firefox didn't have tab groups anymore 18:28 oleonard have a good weekend #koha 18:48 eythian @later tell drojf https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16588 18:48 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 18:48 huginn 04Bug 16588: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , libreadonly-perl (and libreadonly-xs-perl) need to be added as dependencies 19:45 nengard anyone around? 19:45 wahanui no one but us, nengard 19:45 nengard ooooo 19:45 nengard scary 19:51 talljoy HI NENGARD 19:51 talljoy Friday afternoon in the Koha channel...check the tumbleweeds roll 19:55 nengard poo 19:55 nengard wanted to ask if i found a bug 19:55 nengard oh well - reported it and can wait and see 19:55 talljoy what was it? 19:58 nengard https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16810 19:58 huginn 04Bug 16810: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fines note not showing on checkout 19:59 nengard was updating the manual with new screenshots 19:59 nengard and found it 19:59 ccordova hi, 20:01 ccordova I have a problem with Koha 16.05 when I update an item "withdrawn" no becomes available. this is log http://pastebin.com/ks8HszWG 20:03 talljoy looks like a mismatch in your table structure. the old field was wthdrawn but is now withdrawn. I'd check your items table in the db. 20:03 talljoy update database should have caught that, but you can manually alter the table 20:04 nengard talljoy++ 20:12 ccordova talljoy : tranks in my database items is correct http://paste.koha-community.org/11 20:12 talljoy curious. 20:12 ccordova this problems is the moment update items 20:13 talljoy let me see if i can replicate on master 20:14 talljoy how are you updating and item? batch item modification/ or on the item details scree? 20:16 ccordova in details item 20:16 ccordova this screen 20:16 talljoy okay, i'm trying to get to my install of master. having problem with the site. 20:17 ccordova https://snag.gy/N6yiuT.jpg 20:17 talljoy ok thanks, let me see 20:18 ccordova thanks :) 20:20 talljoy okay, i can't replicate that on a master version. 20:20 talljoy sounds like it may be something about your install. if it is referencing wthdrawn that is old code. 20:20 talljoy i'm afraid my expertise is in the data, not the code or system setup 20:22 ccordova this is update 3.22.x a 16.05 20:22 ccordova :( 20:26 ccordova search for "withdrawn" in /usr/share/koha/ this is the result http://pastebin.com/xZKu6aPE 20:28 talljoy i'm wondering now about your frameworks. 20:28 talljoy one of those updatedatabase commands is updating the frameworks to map the 952$0 to the withdrawn field and maybe it is still mapped to wthdrawn. 20:34 ccordova that's https://snag.gy/rULns2.jpg 20:34 ccordova :) 20:36 talljoy bingo 20:37 ccordova talljoy : thanks 20:37 talljoy your welcome! 21:04 tcohen hi 21:10 eythian Tsipouro o'clock 21:11 cait :) 21:47 eythian Small bottle of Tsipouro is significantly better than large bottle 😠21:48 eythian I need to find a local source.