Time Nick Message 03:33 dcook Don't suppose rangi or gmcharlt are around? 03:33 dcook Or anyone who does their own Debian packages? 03:48 wizzyrea rangi is away today 03:48 dcook cheers wizzyrea :) 03:48 dcook I think I answered my own question in any case 03:48 wizzyrea \o/ 03:48 * dcook has been looking at building RPMs for an unrelated project 03:49 dcook I'm so not volunteering as RPM package manager... but I'd like to know more about the decisions made with the Debian packages 03:49 dcook In theory... it might not be too hard to make RPMs... although dependencies would still be hell on non-Debian systems 03:50 dcook Well, Perl dependencies at least 03:50 * dcook isn't volunteering to build RPMs for heaps of Perl packages either :p 04:14 drojf evening 04:16 drojf dcook: volunteering as rpm packaging manager? that's awesome! 04:16 dcook :P 05:18 liw dcook, I'm occasionally around Europan daytime, and I might still remember some reasons for my original packaigng decisions for Koha, if that helps 05:19 dcook liw: Thanks :). 05:19 dcook I'm not sure what I have in mind at the moment, as I'm occupied with a different project, but I'll keep that in mind 05:31 * magnuse waves 05:31 dcook hey magnuse 05:32 magnuse dcook: you can go home now :-) 05:33 dcook Nah, it's only 3:33 :p 05:38 magnuse dcook: that's when a typical norwegian workday ends :-) 05:39 dcook I have a head cold at the moment, so I wouldn't be opposed to going home... :p 06:04 fridolin hie 06:06 magnuse bonjour fridolin 06:06 magnuse @wunder boo 06:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 9.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 06:17 LibraryClaire Morning #koha 06:24 fridolin magnuse: bonjour, ouuu cold 06:24 fridolin @wunder montpellier 06:24 huginn` fridolin: The current temperature in Montpellier, France is 18.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling). 06:25 fridolin arf it was sunny yesterday with 30 degrees 06:25 magnuse that's too hot! 06:36 eythian @wunder ams 06:36 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.0°C (8:33 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). 06:45 LibraryClaire @wunder LCY 06:45 huginn` LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London City, United Kingdom is 15.0°C (7:20 AM BST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). 06:50 reiveune hello 06:58 alex_a bonjour 06:58 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 07:18 gaetan_B hello 07:18 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B 09:12 drojf morning #koha 09:12 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:12 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 16.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 09:12 LibraryClaire morning drojf 09:12 drojf hi LibraryClaire 09:13 drojf playing with catmandu until 6 in the morning was a grreat idea 09:14 LibraryClaire ooow :/ 09:35 magnuse lol 09:41 magnuse drojf: did you have fun? 09:43 drojf magnuse: i prepared 1,5 data migrations, it wasn't bad 09:45 magnuse yay! 10:18 cait hi #koha 10:20 LibraryClaire hi cait :) 10:22 cait hi LibraryClaire :) 11:32 khall Joubu: what do you think of this? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15707#c75 11:32 huginn` 04Bug 15707: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add ability to define hierarchical groups of libraries 11:41 oleonard Hi #koha 11:42 cait hi oleonard :) 11:42 LibraryClaire hi oleonard 11:44 oleonard Is there an upcoming dev meeting scheduled? 11:45 cait oleonard: not sure, was on my list to check latr 11:46 cait i think we might have missed one for lack of attendance and no new date was set 11:46 oleonard Yeah that's the way it looks to me too 11:47 oleonard I need to know when to start threatening to break people's legs if they don't vote my way. 11:48 cait lol 11:48 cait we would vote for your suggestions even witout understanding them 11:54 * cait has done that at least once *hides* 11:56 oleonard Yes, my proposal that every dev should be required to wear a jeweled crown went over well. 11:56 cait oh didn't get one yet! 12:09 oleonard fredericd++ # rmainting 12:10 cait fredericd++ :) 12:15 * oleonard didn't mean to close that window 12:15 magnuse fredericd++ 12:24 * oleonard cannot reproduce Bug 16743 12:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16743 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Datatables error when checking overdues in chrome 12:25 oleonard Maybe it would help if that screenshot were cropped a little more :P 12:28 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 12:35 tcohen hola magnuse 12:54 tcohen morning #koha 12:59 blou bonjour koha! 13:01 tcohen hola blou 13:01 cait hi blou! 13:01 blou Hello tcohen! Hello cait! 13:02 blou Any of you is a LDAP expert :^) 13:02 cait sorry, not me 13:02 blou Don't be sorry! 13:02 cait we got one library using it, but thankfully I am not the one to set that up :) 13:07 blou I'm trying to determine if Koha can specify many "base" in its configuration, or only one. Professors and student have differnt info... 13:08 cait hm i think currently only one ldap... but there might be patches around for multiple 13:08 cait it#s hard to get ldap patches tested 13:08 blou I'm trying to determine if I purely suck at LDAP and don't know how to do it. OR Koha config's can't do it. 13:08 cait bug 8993 13:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , LDAP authentication improvements: multiple branch and transformation modules 13:12 blou VERY interesting, cait. 13:13 blou Although, it seems pushed, then not, then... I'm confused. 13:23 blou weather 13:23 drojf no, thanks 13:23 drojf :P 13:24 blou :) 13:26 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:26 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 22.4°C (9:26 AM EDT on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 13:27 blou Well, Julian might be on luck with #8893: I think I'll be able to signoff his patch through testing it live on a production environment. 14:08 khall oleonard: can I get your input on bug 14790? I'm wondering if there is a better icon for the new buttons I've added 14:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14790 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Link to OPAC view from within subscriptions, search and item editor 14:08 oleonard Sure 14:08 khall thanks! 14:14 oleonard khall: I disagree that the toolbar is the correct place for an OPAC view link, because the toolbar is supposed to be for things that you can do /to/ whatever is being viewed (patron, biblio, subscription) 14:15 khall oleonard: where should they go? I'm open to suggestions 14:16 oleonard On the subscription detail view we already have a link to the biblio, so it seems logical that we could add another line under that to link to the OPAC 14:16 oleonard In the catalog we already have a link to the OPAC, so the button is not necessary (IMO) 14:17 khall yes, I see now 14:17 khall I'll drop that patch and update the subscription detail one, how about the others? 14:19 oleonard Others look good to me khall 14:19 khall excellent! thanks! 14:19 khall I'll make those changes 14:32 kidclamp morning all 14:40 oleonard How does the "uncertain price" setting fit into the aquisitions workflow? 15:00 reiveune bye 15:11 gaetan_B bye! 15:15 oleonard Ha ha, 'target="_blank"' is so unreliable! It's almost as if the universe were telling us to cut it out and let the user decide. 15:44 cait oleonard: still interested in uncertain price? 15:44 oleonard Yes 15:44 cait oleonard: you can't close a basket when one of the order lies has set uncertain price 15:44 cait it forces you to resolve that first 15:44 cait you can do so in batch using the uncertain price page 15:44 cait but... I don't know a library which is using it, they usually make something up if they are not sure or use 0 - without doing this extra step 15:46 oleonard cait: I'm curious, why wouldn't a library use it instead of having an order with a 0 price? 15:46 oleonard Because they'll change it in the item later? 15:47 cait because you can't close the order 15:47 cait an when you can't close it - it never goes to 'ordered' status 15:47 cait and can not be received 15:47 cait and you can always give the real price you paid on receive 15:48 cait so it turns up in your budget and should also go into the item 15:49 cait the probelm really is that it blocks you from closing the basket 15:49 cait why the libraries i talked to are not using it 15:49 cait if it was just a flag that would probably be used 15:50 * cait hopes that made sense 15:51 oleonard Yes, thanks cait 15:52 cait it's acquisitions... *sighs* 15:59 cait @wunder Konstanz 15:59 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 19.6°C (5:59 PM CEST on June 15, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 16:56 oleonard Bye #koha 17:12 nengard_library hey #koha, i'm visiting a library trying to find the bug report about how you can use __DATE__ or some such to put the date in the marc record 17:13 nengard_library anyone know what bug i'm talking about? 17:15 kidclamp can you give any more context for the bug? is that the whole purpose? or is it part of batch edit? 17:15 khall nengard_chicktech: I'm not finding anything like that in master 17:16 nengard_library the purpose was to have default values in the frameowkr 17:16 nengard_library so you could do name or date or some other field 17:17 nengard_library and it would fill in on all new records for you 17:17 nengard_library the syntax is what i can't remember but it was something like __DATE__ __USER__ 17:20 kidclamp nengard_library https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7045? 17:20 huginn` 04Bug 7045: minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, druthb, Failed QA , Default-value substitution inconsistent 17:20 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7045 17:20 huginn` 04Bug 7045: minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, druthb, Failed QA , Default-value substitution inconsistent 17:21 druthb gosh, I remember that oldy moldy 17:22 nengard_library kidclamp++ 17:24 kidclamp also for items: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14950 17:24 huginn` 04Bug 14950: normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , A date is not correctly filled in default values from batch mod [was Remove C4::Dates from tools/batchMod.pl] 17:25 nengard_library in pianohacker in? 17:25 nengard_library kidclamp? 17:25 wahanui kidclamp is terrible at time zones 17:25 nengard_library HA 17:25 pianohacker ? 17:25 nengard_library pianohacker!!! 17:25 wahanui regexes are AWESOME 17:25 pianohacker sup 17:25 nengard_library is there a way to use macros in advanced cataloging to enter today's date? 17:26 nengard_library say yes 17:26 pianohacker uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not currently 17:26 nengard_library pooo 17:26 nengard_library how hard would it be? 17:26 pianohacker not terribly 17:27 nengard_library might have another idea from RR for that 17:28 nengard_library thanks all!! 21:05 * mveron can no longer print patron cards with patron images - Bug 16747 21:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16747 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Patron card creator broken with version 16.05 21:07 mveron Good night / daytime #koha 21:32 tcohen hi 21:32 wahanui what's up, tcohen 21:32 tcohen hey wahanui 21:33 CHRIS2 Hello 21:33 CHRIS2 I am here seeking some help 21:33 CHRIS2 anyone available 21:33 tcohen just shoot 21:33 tcohen someone might help 21:34 CHRIS2 I just upgraded to Koha 3.22.07.000 21:34 CHRIS2 I just realized that I am getting 2 errors in the system information area of Koha 21:35 CHRIS2 XML configuration file 21:35 CHRIS2 Warning You are missing the <log4perl_conf> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to the log4perl.conf file for your Koha instance. 21:35 CHRIS2 Warning You are missing the <upload_path> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to the configured file upload directory for your Koha instance. 21:35 CHRIS2 Is there a fix for this. 21:35 tcohen not an automatic one 21:36 tcohen the upgrade scripts currently don't handle that 21:36 tcohen so you get a warning so you fix them 21:36 tcohen what is your instance name? 21:37 tcohen you can check it by running $ sudo koha-list 21:38 CHRIS2 the output of that command is library 21:38 tcohen so 21:38 tcohen you should edit your /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml file 21:39 CHRIS2 one sec let me bring that up 21:40 CHRIS2 its up 21:40 CHRIS2 any particular line or area I should look for. 21:40 tcohen does it mean you opened the file for editing? 21:40 CHRIS2 yes 21:40 tcohen ok, at the bottom 21:40 wahanui at the bottom are the user name and password for Koha. 21:40 tcohen search for upload_path 21:41 tcohen ah, you won't have it 21:41 tcohen hehe 21:41 CHRIS2 yeh 21:41 tcohen sorry 21:41 tcohen search for enable_plugins 21:41 CHRIS2 its not there 21:41 tcohen did u find it? 21:41 CHRIS2 missing 21:42 tcohen no enable_plugins either? 21:42 CHRIS2 enable_plugins is there 21:43 tcohen ok, below the enable_plugins line 21:43 tcohen add 21:43 tcohen <upload_path>/var/lib/koha/library/uploads</upload_path> 21:43 tcohen save the file, and you are done 21:46 tcohen so? 21:46 wahanui rumour has it so is a long road 21:46 CHRIS2 ok that took care of the upload path 21:47 CHRIS2 I still have the log4perl_conf error 21:48 tcohen CHRIS2: cp /etc/koha/log4perl-site.conf.in /etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf 21:48 tcohen then edit /etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf 21:49 tcohen and replace __LOG_DIR__ 21:49 tcohen for /var/log/koha/library 21:50 tcohen then, head to https://koha-community.org/ 21:50 tcohen and use the 'Donate' button to give the community a few bucks 21:50 tcohen :-P 21:52 CHRIS2 one sec 21:53 tcohen the /var/lib/koha/library/uploads needs to exist for the feature to work 21:54 tcohen mkdir -p /var/lib/koha/library/uploads ; chown library-koha -r /var/lib/koha/library/uploads 21:54 * tcohen forgot that 21:58 CHRIS2 invalid option -r 21:58 tcohen -R 21:59 tcohen chown library-koha -R /var/lib/koha/library/uploads 22:00 tcohen (the first command got executed already) 22:00 CHRIS2 yes 22:01 CHRIS2 i did it in two parts 22:01 CHRIS2 I am now editing the log4perl file 22:01 CHRIS2 I notice there are two areas where there is__LOG_DIR__ 22:02 CHRIS2 should I change both of them? 22:02 tcohen yup 22:06 CHRIS2 Error still there 22:07 tcohen chown library-koha /etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf 22:07 tcohen ? 22:09 CHRIS2 yes 22:09 CHRIS2 still there 22:12 tcohen service memcached restart 22:12 CHRIS2 unrecognized service 22:13 wizzyrea you are full refreshing that right 22:13 wizzyrea shift+f5 22:13 tcohen ctrl+shift+r 22:14 CHRIS2 yes I did 22:14 CHRIS2 I even logged out of koha and loged back in 22:16 tcohen CHRIS2: my bad, I forgot something else 22:16 CHRIS2 k 22:17 tcohen you need to point your koha-conf.xml to it 22:17 tcohen edit your koha-conf.xml file again 22:17 tcohen search for queryparser 22:17 tcohen and write this below 22:18 tcohen <log4perl_conf>/etc/koha/sites/library/log4perl.conf</log4perl_conf> 22:18 pianohacker tcohen++ 22:18 tcohen hehe 22:19 CHRIS2 I was wondering about that too seeing that we did that for the first error. 22:19 tcohen yeah, I didn't want you to write it to koha-conf.xml before the file existed 22:19 tcohen because it could make Koha break until the file existed 22:20 tcohen and then, of course, forgot 22:23 tcohen have to leave 22:23 tcohen CHRIS2: hope it is fixed 22:23 tcohen bye! 22:25 CHRIS2 Up up and awayyyyy!!!!! in smoke. Fixed. Thanks a million 23:22 tcohen hi 23:52 wizzyrea hi 23:52 wahanui que tal, wizzyrea