Time Nick Message 04:36 dcook Hmm, any other humans around right now? 04:37 dcook Why won't this plugin upload... 04:39 dcook Bug 16369 04:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16369 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Clean up and improve plugins template 04:53 dcook Ahhh I bet it's the upload_path 04:53 dcook Every time... 04:58 dcook Nope... not it... blah 04:59 dcook This is so frustrating.. 05:01 dcook It's uploading the plugins.. 05:03 dcook Why the hell is it not detecting it.. 05:12 dcook Maybe it's a bad plugin.. 05:13 dcook ... 05:15 dcook I suppose I don't actually see any upload code... 05:18 dcook Or maybe the problem is plugin-home... 05:27 dcook Hmm, might be going crazy... 05:32 dcook Must just be a bad plugin... 05:58 dcook Ahhh I bet it's because I don't have Marc::Lint installed 06:13 drojf hi there 06:13 wahanui hey, drojf 06:13 drojf wahanui: are you at kohacon? 06:13 wahanui drojf: i don't know 06:13 drojf wahanui: you should find out 06:13 wahanui drojf: huh? 06:13 drojf wahanui: yep 06:13 wahanui yep. 06:13 dcook yo drojf :) 06:22 drojf hey dcook 06:22 drojf late for you, isn't it? 06:27 marcelr_greece hi #koha 06:27 marcelr_greece 20 min to go for conference starts.. 06:32 dcook drojf: Nope. It's 4:31pm 06:32 dcook Cheers, marcelr_greece 06:32 marcelr_greece :) 06:32 dcook Alas, I don't think my wife will let me watch during dinner :p 06:32 drojf dcook: so you will be asleep until i have to present 06:32 dcook marcelr_greece: Is it just being streamed live or will there be recordings somewhere? 06:33 dcook drojf: Well, with the baby, I might not be asleep :p 06:33 marcelr_greece hm not sure i think so 06:33 drojf there will be recordings, i had to sign to give consent 06:33 dcook Yay! 06:33 marcelr_greece ok 06:33 dcook drojf: What time are you presenting? 06:33 drojf 16:30 i think 06:33 drojf which is like your time now, but here 06:33 dcook In local time? 06:33 drojf yep 06:33 drojf in 7 hours? 06:34 drojf i got mixed time zones on notebook and phone, slightly confusing 06:36 * magnuse waves from CEST 06:36 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki 06:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 22.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 06:36 magnuse @wunder boo 06:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling). 06:40 * magnuse sets up twitter to keep an eye on #kohacon16 06:40 marcelr_greece hi magnuse you should have been here ;) 06:42 magnuse i know... 06:42 magnuse it's not for a lack of wanting to be there 06:46 reiveune hello 06:46 wahanui que tal, reiveune 06:48 drojf1 @wunder thessaloniki 06:49 huginn drojf1: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 22.0°C (9:20 AM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 06:50 jajm hello #koha 06:55 pianohacker good morning from KohaCon! 06:55 magnuse kia ora pianohacker 06:55 pianohacker hi magnuse :) 06:55 magnuse doing the grand tour of europe, eh? 06:59 drojf1 is the stream flash only or is it just me? 07:00 eythian Url? 07:00 wahanui Url is horrid :) 07:01 drojf1 http://kohacon2016.lib.auth.gr/ 07:01 eythian Yeah, tells me to install flash on my tablet. 07:03 marcelr_greece what does she say ? 07:03 drojf1 no idea 07:03 drojf1 hello 07:03 drojf1 a long hello 07:12 dcook I'm so choked not to be at Kohacon... 07:12 dcook Boss offered to pay but I figured I didn't want to leave the 3 month old at home and didn't neessarily want to cart them over to Greece either 07:13 drojf yeah, lots of small koha children, soon they will be old enough for conferences ;) 07:14 drojf you could also do kohacon in australia ;) 07:15 drojf ah well too much spiders of too uncomfortable size 07:15 eythian Ah good: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825493 07:16 drojf excellent 07:36 fridolin hie there 07:37 * cait2 waves 07:48 magnuse kia ora fridolin cait2 and petter 07:48 * cait2 waves 07:48 magnuse Oak 07:48 petter hello folks! 07:48 Oak magnuse 07:48 cait2 rangi and paul_p just finished their talk about Koha hisotry 07:48 Oak \o/ 07:48 cait2 learning something new every time 07:48 cait2 is the livestream on? 07:48 Oak Guten tag cait2 07:52 magnuse the livestram was working very well 20 minutes ago, at least 07:52 magnuse petter: you're not in greece, right? 07:59 petter No, I'm in rainy Oslo :/ 08:06 magnuse ha, better to be in sunny bodø then! ;-) 08:06 magnuse @wunder oslo 08:06 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 08:06 magnuse @wunder oslo, norway 08:06 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 12.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 08:06 magnuse @wunder boo 08:06 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 08:18 bag magnuse: HI 08:18 wahanui kia ora, bag 08:19 magnuse bag: HI 08:20 rangi /ws 45 08:20 rangi yay, i need more coffee 08:29 mveron Good daytime #koha 08:32 marcelr_greece hallo mveron 08:32 mveron Hi marcelr_greece 08:36 cait2 back - had a quick coffee break 08:40 cait2 noone here? :) 08:54 * mveron waves to cait2 :-) 08:54 cait2 hi mveron :) 08:54 * mveron watches the live stream... 09:10 magnuse the livestream is working perfectly for me in norway, if anyone is curious ;-) 09:11 eythian It doesn't work in Firefox so well. 09:14 magnuse it does for me, but i may have installed some nasty plugin or something 09:18 eythian Firefox will find system codecs these days. I don't seem to have them on my tablet. 09:19 cait2 eythian: you are not supposed to watch the livestream from here 09:21 eythian You and your rules 09:22 cait2 heh 09:23 magnuse wow, DataScouting is really active on twitter 09:28 eythian wahanui: MarcEdit is not free software. 09:28 wahanui ...but marcedit is a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php... 09:28 eythian wahanui: MarcEdit is also not free software. 09:28 wahanui okay, eythian. 09:33 magnuse @wunder boo 09:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 09:33 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki 09:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 25.0°C (12:20 PM EEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 09:36 cait2 koha-ppy! :) 09:57 * mveron thinks that Koha needs a function to generate funds (print money) for acquisitions :-) 09:59 liz serials too. 10:07 rangi this is so offtopic 10:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating the DBrev for a new dev track (unstable). <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b99731e2e0290adddb5e419b8a987a9356fdf631> 10:14 rangi blam 10:30 magnuse boom 11:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16548 - All libraries selected on Tools -> Export Data screen <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=06b9194cdd178f14347b8f9090657dbf5b712450> / Bug 16569 - Message box for "too many checked out" is empty if AllowTooManyOverride... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af43f91335b2258ea39b40247a1492ca41dafe2a> / Bug 16597: Fix XSS in shelves.pl <http://git.koha-commun 11:27 bag hey rangi - I see that the dashboard has changed for 16.11 - is there a spot that I could grab the numbers for the 16.05 release? (that rough number of hours/days stuff) 11:37 rangi ah yep, 2 secs 11:39 rangi if you reload the page now 11:39 rangi its showing the values for 16.05 11:39 rangi lemme know when youre done ill switch it back 11:40 bag got it rangi all set 11:49 rangi sweet will switch it back 11:57 eythian be aware debian/control is severely broken at the moment, package building is currently impossible. 11:59 rangi hmm i wonder how far gmcharlt got 12:00 eythian the file was regenerated but there were errors in the resulting generation that were left in. 12:02 bag ah that was probably me eythian - can we sit together and redo that? 12:02 eythian I'm fixing it at the moment 12:03 bag ok cool - at hackfest can you demo for me? I followed here https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_management#Dependencies_changes 12:05 * magnuse was just checking if there was a package for 3.22.7 yet 12:05 eythian yeah, it was regenerated but never tested, so there were lines like "-Build-Depends: EEEK: unknown package for DBIx::RunSQL," left in it. Also, the line for letsencrypt was incorrect. 12:06 eythian actually, the generation process should shout warnings and return error codes when that happens. I don't think it does. 12:06 cait2 EEK? :) 12:06 eythian it's crying out in shocked surprise! 12:08 cait2 :) 12:17 bag cool we’ll get it squared away :) and eythian please train me at the hackfest 12:17 bag eythian++ 12:18 eythian sure, there'll also be training of drojf which will overlap a whole lot :) 12:19 bag very cool :) go drojf!!!! 12:22 magnuse drojf++ eythian++ bag++ 12:29 rangi bag: do you know if these scripts are all in the migration toolbox? 12:29 bag they should be yes. 12:30 bag could probably use any updates pushed up 12:30 cait2 cool :) 12:30 rangi sweet 12:30 bag for the task list in marcedit - probably not - since that’s so specific to a single library 12:31 bag but I’m sure we could share that no problem 12:32 talljoy hola Koha! 12:33 rangi heya talljoy 12:33 wahanui talljoy is, like, one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box 12:33 talljoy true wahanui 12:33 eythian https://gitlab.com/catalyst-koha-migration-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/tree/master/clients <-- many catalyst client specific ones are here 12:34 eythian we didn't use marcedit though (it's proprietary) 12:35 talljoy nice eythian I have a git repo for our tools, and will check that it is up to date. 12:36 talljoy i'm not even sure what the url is, but will dig through my notes. git and I are still learning to get along! ;-) 12:36 bag correction - git and I are still learning to GIT along ;) 12:37 eythian talljoy: this is a fork from yours from ages ago with a lot of tidying up and documenting etc. 12:37 talljoy bag ha! 12:37 talljoy ethyian you probably got those from druthb. 12:37 tcohen morning 12:37 bag heya tcohen 12:37 talljoy we've not updated anything major in them since her. We've added a few scripts, and tweaked the standard mashers. 12:37 tcohen hi bag 12:37 tcohen hi talljoy 12:38 talljoy hi tcohen 12:38 eythian talljoy: yeah, that's the one. I forked it when druthb left so wasn't merging in patches for it any more. 12:39 bag hmm curious talljoy - we should look at the catalyst ones again - and see what we could merge in - probably good for both sides ;) 12:39 talljoy that's what i was thinking 12:39 talljoy and put out what we've got to show anything we've added. Mainly I think we've written new scripts 12:40 eythian that's why I put it in gitlab, so it's always public 12:40 eythian bag: bug 16617 12:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16617 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , debian/control is broken 12:40 talljoy you and git 'git' along. it's taken me about 5 years to get comfortable with it. 12:40 * talljoy quotes Dr McCoy "Dammit Jim, I'm a librarian, not a git expert" 12:41 * talljoy is learning though 12:41 eythian just break things and fix them enough times, and it'll make sense. 12:41 bag rangi: can I get a sign off on https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16617 and tcohen can you QA that for me? 12:41 huginn 04Bug 16617: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , debian/control is broken 12:41 talljoy eythian i have pianohacker and kidclamp to help me now. I think khall got tired of me breaking things. ha! 12:42 talljoy he walks the other way from me at hackfests. 12:42 pianohacker I heard something about migration 12:42 talljoy <= breaks things very well 12:42 talljoy nothing to see here pianohacker 12:42 pianohacker would you all like some catmandu-flavored kool aid? 12:42 * talljoy whistels 12:42 talljoy YES PLEASE 12:42 pianohacker it's less than 1% mercuray 12:42 * talljoy passes cookies 12:43 eythian pianohacker: if you're on the catmandu train right now, here's fun times for you: 12:43 eythian # Tried to use 'Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer'. 12:43 eythian # Error: Can't locate Catmandu/Importer/MARC.pm in @INC 12:43 eythian (actually, I think the best temporary solution is to stop it getting tested.) 12:43 pianohacker well that's odd 12:44 pianohacker eythian: how are you getting that? 12:44 tcohen bag: I can of course 12:44 eythian when doing a package build 12:44 pianohacker *blink* 12:44 * talljoy passes the ouzo 12:44 tcohen eythian: I promised to tweak the tests so they are skipped in wheezy 12:44 tcohen *sigh* 12:45 pianohacker talljoy: only if it's a grumpy-pianohacker sized bottle... that error makes no sense 12:45 eythian tcohen: is all the needed upstream stuff in jessie now? 12:45 tcohen i don't think so 12:45 tcohen dbix::runsql is missing 12:45 eythian then it's always going to break 12:46 talljoy pianohacker: i can oblige. 12:46 eythian oh, ignore that 12:46 eythian I mean the catmandu stuff 12:46 * talljoy takes the ouzo back from pianohacker then 12:47 pianohacker grr 12:47 pianohacker eythian: I know the catmandu-marc stuff is in a separate package, is that being included? 12:47 eythian no, it needs to be in a repo to be used 12:47 pianohacker your username highlight is INCREDIBLY aggressive 12:47 eythian packages are always built in a clean environment 12:48 pianohacker hrm. 12:48 eythian highlights will be a function of your client, I presume 12:48 rangi bag: yep will check now 12:49 eythian tcohen: I think that testing ES should always be skipped if catmandu is missing 12:49 tcohen exactly 12:51 talljoy did anyone catch what they said Bywater was doing? 12:51 eythian I think wrt training videos 12:51 talljoy ah! thanks! 12:52 eythian @seen gmcharlt 12:52 huginn eythian: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 59 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> my gut reaction: just do the minimum sorting needed to get everything loaded 12:53 pianohacker talljoy: talljoy! 12:53 wahanui talljoy is one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box. 12:53 talljoy ne 12:53 pianohacker idea is too hard to type 12:53 pianohacker false alarm 12:54 talljoy oh. 13:06 * mveron sends cookies to the QA team 13:07 * magnuse too 13:21 magnuse @wunder boo 13:21 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on May 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 13:21 * magnuse wanders off to eat pizza 13:22 bag @later tell pianohacker https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16617 can you QA that for me? 13:22 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 13:22 huginn 04Bug 16617: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , debian/control is broken 13:25 pianohacker bag: bag 13:36 pianohacker bag: done 13:36 bag thanks 13:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16617 - fix issues with debian/control <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e604538283ef3531aaa769dee70c83cdec942656> 13:50 bag drojf looks very professional up there :) 14:22 bag rancor!!! 14:22 wahanui i think rancor is bug 11559 14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Professional cataloger's interface 14:22 rangi my least favourite type of sessions ever 14:23 pianohacker this could be interesting, but the last is _terrifying_ 14:23 rangi i'd much rather here a bunch of potential solutions 14:23 rangi otherwise it quickly descends into a mess, and a sad way to end a day 14:28 eythian bag: "Should be in the November 2016 Release", that's much nicer to be able to say. 14:29 bag :) 14:35 tcohen where's Joubu? 14:35 wahanui Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly 14:35 marcelr_greece he is in kohacon 14:35 marcelr_greece hi tcohen 14:36 eythian where is tcohen? why is he not at kohacon? 14:36 tcohen i'm not, unfortunately 14:37 eythian everybody who is anybody is there 14:37 tcohen i will try to attend to marseille, though 14:38 drojf how bad was it? :D 14:39 marcelr_greece not bad drojf++ 14:39 marcelr_greece better than only migration stories :) 14:39 eythian +1 14:39 mveron KohaCon 2016 ++ 14:39 mveron Live streaming ++ 14:40 drojf thanks :) later #koha 15:40 reiveune bye 16:18 mveron Hi #koha 16:19 mveron Installer(for update) is broken after newest pull. It always goes back to Step 1 16:20 mveron Seems to be related to updatedatabase.pl: $DBversion = "16.056.00.000"; 16:31 mveron Ok, changed line 12602 and commented out lines 12596-12600 of updatedatabase.pl, it works now... 18:04 bag hola 19:50 bag hola talljoy 19:52 bag ok time for me to go to sleep 19:52 bag night night all :D 19:52 talljoy night night 19:52 talljoy go hope in bed 21:20 drojf it's so nice here 21:20 drojf sorry, gotta say it every night 22:48 florent good morning 22:48 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 22:51 wizzycray hi florent :) 22:52 florent wizzyrea: Good morning Liz. 22:52 florent wizzyrea: Pretty quiet in the office today ;-) 22:54 florent wizzycray: Hi wizzycray 22:54 wizzycray hehe yeah 22:54 wizzycray I'm around by chat if you need, I know you probably won't though ^.^ 22:56 florent wizzycray: might have to chat today. Nobody else around ... 22:56 wizzycray hehehe 22:56 wizzycray yeah, I've got a sick kid, and kathryn's away at training. Aleisha might be in at some point 22:57 florent wizzycray: I was wondering today if I should ask on IRC if anyone might be interested in signing off my superbe patch (12587) :-) 22:57 * wizzycray looks 22:59 florent wizzycray: argh, if I can't even type bug number right ... 12598 22:59 wizzycray hehehe it's no worries, I found it ^.^ 23:01 wizzycray oh, yes I'd like to test that. I'll give it a whirl anyway. 23:02 florent wizzycray: that would be great. I wrote the many tests. I think they are good but ... my opinion does not really matter! :-) 23:03 wizzycray hehe 23:03 florent wizzycray: I am going to try signing off 15906 today. Likely I will write some tests for it first 23:04 wizzycray I like your style 23:04 wizzycray :) 23:06 florent wizzycray: sadly, from writing too many tests, I learned not to trust my understanding of code. (ie my tests are always right-er than my code, so annoying) 23:13 wizzycray I like this thing we are doing on the web updater 23:13 wizzycray where we put notices in the "error" text, in red 23:13 wizzycray I wish, however, that it didn't say "ERROR" and instead said "notice" 23:14 wizzycray oh neat, db update on master is stuck in an infinite loop 23:15 florent wizzycray: Yeah. I noticed that this morning. Quite unfriendly :-( 23:18 wizzycray to fix it, just go to installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl and change the 16.056xxxxxxxx to 16.06xxxxxxxx and it should go on properly. 23:18 wizzycray looks like a typo. 23:20 florent indeed, that does the trick 23:23 wizzycray there's a patch on bug 16619 as well 23:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16619 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Installer stuck in infinite loop 23:28 * dcook waves 23:30 dcook Oh my... 23:30 dcook wizzycray: I would've sworn that I just used the web installer yesterday? 23:31 wizzycray you probably did, they did that change overnight I think 23:31 dcook Ahh, yes, that seems like a weird change to make.. 23:31 wizzycray Mon May 30 10:02:31 2016 +0000 < greece time 23:31 dcook "Koha 16.06 - starting a new dev line at KohaCon16 in Thessaloniki, Greece!" 23:31 dcook Also, I'm going to hold in my feelings about not being there... 23:43 wizzycray yeah, I'm pretty upset to be missing out 23:43 wizzycray but so much to do here. 23:51 wizzycray florent - switching the dateformat to match the data, it's correct that the records import (they do)? 23:53 florent if the dates can be parsed with the chosen dateformat, they should import. 23:53 wizzycray coolio :D 23:53 florent the defect was when the date were not parsing, they would be silently overwriten with system default 23:54 florent system default should only be used when no dates are provided 23:57 florent With dateformat, I didn't change the logic. If I remember well , the problem was around the error being push to @missing_critical after that array was last considered in the loop