Time Nick Message 22:25 tcohen hi there 15:18 eythian pianohacker: cait2: http://www.ritter-sport.de/de/besuchen/berlin.html 15:02 eythian pianohacker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKGoVefhtMQ 14:52 drojf eythian: i'll postpone all package thoughts to after liws workshop 14:49 eythian it's just a matter of replacing my name+email with yours in debian/control 14:49 eythian well adopting them is pretty much scriptable. 14:48 drojf oh thats a lot 14:43 eythian https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=robin%40catalyst.net.nz&comaint=yes <-- drojf, you should start adopting these 14:39 eythian look who's decided to show up 14:37 drojf hi #koha 13:45 eythian to produce ES queries directly 13:45 eythian QueryBuilder could also be used 13:44 eythian yeah 13:44 pianohacker eythian: as opposed to the rough melange Koha supports now? 13:44 eythian (that said, CQL might be an OK thing to settle on in terms of search languages perhaps.) 13:43 eythian though, at the moment it produces ES queries directly anyway 13:43 eythian it must be programmable 13:43 pianohacker eythian: Catmandu has a very strong emphasis on CQL, and the builtin Catmandu ES implementation requires an outside mapping. Do you think there's a clever way to use Koha's builtin stuff to create that mapping? 13:20 druthb lawl 13:20 eythian Time actually stops then. 13:19 nengard hi all, i just upgraded to 16.05 ;) and I noticed that the timeline stops at Oct 5, 2015 on the about page 13:18 magnuse eythian++ 13:09 liw eythian, yay! 13:09 eythian it's now been uploaded into Debian 13:09 eythian old DBIx::RunSQL link replaced with this one directly to the deb file: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/s/4Asak2zzKiuO8pF 12:55 paul_p_ thx eythian. will drop him an email then ;-) 12:54 eythian paul_p_: he's in Berlin, but he's gone to nap for the afternoon 12:54 paul_p_ rangi = are u here (or visiting Berlin) ? 12:25 eythian gmcharlt: There's a hopefully debian ready package for DBIx::RunSQL on alioth for your backporting pleasure. 12:17 eythian DBIx::RunSQL package in here: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/s/PdpAnvE0LgIgLoY 12:06 pianohacker eythian: ah, yes you did 12:06 pianohacker ah kk 12:05 eythian I think I found all the places it was referenced and directed them to a dispatch thingy 12:05 eythian pianohacker: I'm fairly sure I put something in for SimpleSearch 11:53 rangi not sure, maybe not, it doesnt really work with anything 11:48 pianohacker rangi: am I missing something, or does C4::Search::SimpleSearch not work with ES? 11:41 pianohacker *blink* interesting code from Catmandu::ES... return unless $total if defined $total; 11:40 magnuse eythian++ 11:39 fridolin sweet 11:34 rangi sweet :) 11:32 eythian ah well. I'll just have to make drojf do it as part of his initiation :) (I have a ready-for-debian package for DBIx::RunSQL.) 11:26 rangi hmm not on this machine 11:20 eythian rangi: do you have the ability to push to git.debian.org? I don't have my old key handy, and it hasn't picked up my new one yet. 11:19 magnuse jambalaya! 11:14 eythian too much jambalaya really 11:10 magnuse too much cheese? 11:10 magnuse heh 11:10 eythian post lunch minor coma 11:08 magnuse cait2: how ya'll doing in berlin? 11:05 magnuse \o/ 11:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 11:05 magnuse @wunder boo 11:02 LibraryClaire hi cait2 :) 11:00 cait2 hi LibraryClaire 10:46 magnuse anyone wanna take the time to check if koha qualifies for a Best Practices Badge? http://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/ 10:38 LibraryClaire hi rangi :) 10:37 rangi hi LibraryClaire 10:18 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:18 Joubu @later tell Brooke Bonjour :) 09:44 LibraryClaire morning #koha 09:41 pianohacker in theory, yes, though I'm not sure of the mechanics 09:40 pianohacker found 'em 09:36 eythian specifically, _convert_marc_to_json at the bottom of that module is where they're referenced. 09:34 eythian snap! 09:34 * Joubu is too slow 09:34 Joubu pianohacker: ES indexing code is in Koha::ES::Indexer (if it was your question) 09:34 eythian Dig through from Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer 09:32 pianohacker eythian: any idea where that code lives? 09:32 pianohacker eythian: I don't think directly, but we could write our own fix 09:30 eythian then you could just have something that generates them 09:29 eythian I wonder if you can provide a module for --fix somehow 09:29 eythian because if so, that'd be pretty neat 09:29 eythian does sending it to ES work with all the fixer rules that Koha uses to make things searchable? 09:20 pianohacker catmandu export Koha::Biblio to MARC 09:20 pianohacker things that are working, if not extraordinarily useful: catmandu move Koha::Biblio to ElasticSearch --index_name koha 09:16 eythian My plan was for it to try in realtime and fall back to a queue if that failed, I think 09:16 eythian that may have changed though 09:16 eythian pianohacker: I have this memory that it would try to do it in realtime 09:16 rangi pianohacker: if you are using packages its done realtime (well close to, it uses the indexing daemon that is on by default now) 09:15 ashimema cheers eythian :) 09:15 pianohacker eythian: out of curiosity, was live reindexing (at time of change) looked at for ES? 09:14 eythian ashimema: happy birthday! 09:10 rangi :) 09:09 Joubu (not what I do!) 09:08 Joubu it's easier to drink beers and use the wifi of the cafés 09:08 rangi cool 09:08 Joubu and then buy another topup to reach 20€ and you will get 2Go for a week, something like that 09:07 Joubu you can get something at Cosmote (1st phone network), it's 15€ the sim card (with 10€ top up included). it's called "internet on the go", but lot of shops do not have this sim card (or they do not want to sell it, did not understand why...) 09:06 * fridolin1 in the place 09:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16608 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Missing entity nbsp in some XML files 09:05 fridolin1 whoooo 1 patch : Bug 16608 09:05 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 09:05 eythian @later tell drojf https://goo.gl/photos/pCApfd8wVfTUdf8fA 09:05 rangi luckily i can use my nz simcard and my nz data for $5 nzd a day there 09:05 Joubu ha something else, if you plan to get a simcard with prepaid data, it's not so easy, and quite expansive 09:04 eythian cait2: https://goo.gl/photos/pCApfd8wVfTUdf8fA 09:04 rangi ahhhh 09:04 liw no I tell a lie. I only arrive on Thursday, actually. 09:04 rangi liw: http://kohacon2016.lib.auth.gr/?page_id=2417 09:03 Joubu (or baseball cap for bag!) 09:03 Joubu Do not forget the sun cream and the hat! 09:02 liw rangi, oh. I though it was hacking? 09:02 pianohacker hehehe 09:02 rangi pianohacker: https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/735847443376394241 09:01 rangi liw: Thursday is the trip to the tombs :) 09:01 rangi Joubu: cool :) 09:01 liw rangi, all of Wednesday is a trip day, I'm going to be exhausted by the time in the afternoon 09:01 Joubu rangi: ok I will try to catch you on #koha when we are around 09:00 rangi in time for the day trip liw :) 09:00 magnuse thanks - it IS rather nice! 09:00 liw magnuse, I congratulate you on a reasonable temperature :) 08:59 * magnuse will never arrive - eternal traveller! 08:59 magnuse hah! 08:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 08:59 magnuse @wunder boo 08:59 * liw will be arriving Wednesday 08:58 rangi Joubu: ill arrive around 10am tomorrow 08:58 huginn liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 16.0°C (11:50 AM EEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 08:58 liw @wunder helsinki 08:57 Joubu We plan to arrive tomorrow in the afternoon, and yes she is here 08:57 liw too hot 08:57 cait2 when are you getting to tessaloniki? is k. coming too? 08:57 cait2 ah ok 08:57 Joubu yesterday it was 35° :) 08:56 Joubu I am not in Thessaloniki yet, but 100kms south 08:56 huginn cait2: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 25.0°C (11:20 AM EEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 08:56 cait2 @wunder Thessaloniki 08:56 cait2 ugh 08:56 Joubu hot! 08:56 cait2 how is it? :) 08:56 Joubu cait2: yep :) 08:54 cait2 Joubu: are you in greece already? 08:52 rangi maybe 08:51 rangi the font is Bitstream Vera Sans 08:51 rangi yeah 08:51 Joubu But would have been great to have the text 08:51 Joubu Yes I think it's what I will do 08:51 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha-egg.svg 08:51 rangi could use this 08:50 rangi ah annoying 08:50 Joubu yes that's the one I found 08:50 rangi found the ones at the bottom here? 08:50 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation 08:49 Joubu rangi: I have found https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha3-staff-client-logo.svg but the inside of the 'o' and 'a' are not transparent (white instead...) 08:49 magnuse and <> vs != seems to do the same thing, but both versions give a reset 08:49 rangi we have svg of the black one 08:49 rangi i dont think we have a good one of the green one 08:48 Joubu the green one if possible 08:48 eythian ah 08:48 magnuse eythian: i'm saving it as a report, so the reset is apache, not mysql, i think 08:48 Joubu I do not manage to find a good Koha logo (png or svg), does someone know where I can find that? 08:47 rangi cool 08:47 Joubu rangi: yes that's a first step. If we get others issues, I will do something better 08:46 eythian I'd also check your mysql logs, because connection reset is not something that should ever be an answer. 08:45 eythian this doesn't really answer your question, however. 08:45 eythian (IIRC) 08:45 eythian typically SQL is <> 08:45 eythian magnuse: is != supposed to work? 08:44 rangi to make it easy to add to other tt pages 08:43 rangi but i was thinking, we could (in a new bug) make the token generation a TT plugin 08:43 rangi Joubu: about to sign off 16591 08:41 fridolin1 Joubu: no i wont, i'think other deserves it 08:41 magnuse whut? if i try to save the report "SELECT borrowernumber, cardnumber, firstname, surname FROM borrowers WHERE LENGTH( cardnumber ) != 14" i get "the connection was reset". if i try to save it as "SELECT borrowernumber, cardnumber, firstname, surname FROM borrowers WHERE cardnumber != 14" (without the LENGTH()) it works fine?!? 08:36 Joubu fridolin1: will you be in Thessaloniki? 08:36 Joubu fridolin1: fwiw I use MariaDB daily in my dev env and never had any issues with it 08:30 fridolin1 ok im online 08:30 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, fridolin1 08:30 fridolin1 wahanui: are u there ? 08:27 t4nk602 can you tell me the requirements for installation of koha 08:27 cait2 it writes to apache logs instead... ubuntu 16.05, apache 2.4 etc. 08:27 cait2 hm anyone ever had problems with apache not writing ot the koha error logs? 08:26 pianohacker rangi: in person ping 08:25 rangi i am not sure what you are asking 08:25 t4nk602 hwen I buy linux OS it comes with Ubuntu? 08:24 rangi ubuntu is a distribution of linux 08:24 t4nk602 ok 08:24 eythian t4nk602: it only works on linux 08:24 wahanui i think Ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. 08:24 t4nk602 or Ubuntu? 08:24 t4nk602 is it working on Linux 08:23 fridolin i'll have a try when I can 08:23 fridolin 16.05 should be tested with mariaDB 10.0/1 08:23 rangi cool 08:22 eythian yep 08:22 rangi is anyone working on packaging dbix::runsql ? 08:16 t4nk602 I understand 08:16 t4nk602 It works on Linux? 08:16 cait2 so you can, but it is really early :) 08:16 t4nk602 I see 08:16 cait2 it is, but there are always some small catches found early 08:15 t4nk602 Isn;t the release stable 08:15 cait2 also, if you are running ubuntu 16.05 just don't 08:15 t4nk602 I thought it was released yesterday 08:15 t4nk602 Oww ok 08:12 magnuse it is recommended to wait at least until the first maintenance release before upgrading a production system. that will be one month from now 08:12 magnuse t4nk602: do you mean 16.05 which is just a few hours old? 08:11 magnuse cait2: yeah, almost lunchtime! 08:11 t4nk602 hello any one here upgraded to latest release 08:11 liw "Fri 27 May 08:11:00 UTC 2016" -- UTC is the only correct timezone, so it's still morning :P 08:08 pianohacker yes.. 08:06 cait2 why toolate? no longer morning yet? 08:05 pianohacker cait2: too late :( 08:05 cait2 good morning pianohacker! 08:00 fridolin I try to share a little bit more in community 08:00 fridolin cool 07:59 pianohacker fridolin: just saw that in the scrollback, thanks 07:58 fridolin I've the solution if u want 07:58 fridolin yesterday i was asking for Zebrasrv+Systemd for Debian Jessie 07:57 fridolin pianohacker: hie 07:45 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 07:45 pianohacker good morning 07:00 liw nice 06:58 fridolin a simple service config file and it runs, it does not need daemon anymore 06:58 fridolin documented in Wiki : https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian_Jessie_development_setup#Configuring_the_Zebra_Indexer 06:58 fridolin i've find a simple solution 06:58 fridolin for my problem yesterday with zebrasrv and systemd, 06:53 magnuse hehe, a little bit, yes 06:53 eythian Flying south for the summer, eh? 06:52 * magnuse kicks himself into migration mode 06:51 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 06:51 alex_a bonjour 06:49 magnuse word! 06:48 fridolin mmmh, encoding is hell 06:46 eythian * what this sends 06:46 eythian fridolin: :-) I'm not actually sure what this sense, but I'd be surprised if it's UTF16 because then everything would be. 06:36 fridolin 6 Hexa chars are a UTF16 character 06:36 fridolin look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16#U.2B0000_to_U.2BD7FF_and_U.2BE000_to_U.2BFFFF 06:36 fridolin ahhhh Robin, nice to see u 06:34 eythian The UTF8 is a Unicode smilie because I'm on my phone. 06:34 eythian fridolin: I've stayed at your house, have you not had coffee yet? 06:32 fridolin ahh NZ. mmm its a UTF character but so large, UTF-16 ? 06:31 eythian fridolin: New Zealand, you know this 🙂 06:31 fridolin my family is from north belgium so i understand a bit 06:31 fridolin eythian: ah neederlands, where are u from ? 06:30 eythian Helaas weer niet zo mooi 🙂 Have to wait for Greece for that. 06:28 eythian Ja, natuurlijk. 06:28 marcelr bonjour fridolin 06:28 fridolin bonjouuuuuur the people 06:24 marcelr alles goed in berlijn? 06:24 eythian Hello marcelr 06:24 marcelr hii eythian 06:17 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 06:17 eythian @later tell rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/80458609/wellington-brewery-panhead-custom-ales-sold-to-lion-group 06:16 marcelr hi #koha 06:06 * magnuse waves 01:58 kathryn hi francesca 01:37 francesca Cool, hi Kathryn 01:35 liz cool, kathryn's there :) 01:35 francesca I'll be in soon 01:35 wahanui privet, liz 01:35 liz hi 01:35 francesca Hello 00:07 Brooke rinse repeat 00:07 Brooke then I unjam it 00:07 Brooke and gives up 00:06 Brooke it staples once 00:06 Brooke this stapler is a metaphor for my life 00:06 * Brooke is way beyond obsession at this hour. 00:06 kidclamp I have been avoiding that one for fear of getting obsessed 00:05 Brooke Yer man is responsible for Oregon Trail being up there 00:05 Brooke ' 00:05 kidclamp The Fool's Errand is still an amazing puzzle game 00:05 kidclamp ooh, I have been playing their games 00:04 Brooke he is *hilarious* in person 00:04 Brooke https://archive.org/details/JasonScottPresentationTheWalkingDeadDigitalFrenimiesNDSR2016May2016 00:03 Brooke http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4546 00:03 Brooke hang on lemme google summat 00:02 kidclamp no 00:02 Brooke have you seen Jason Scott's talk on the emularity? 00:02 Brooke the former is cool, the latter is just kinda excessive ;) 00:01 Brooke oooof 00:00 kidclamp heh, I have two card catalogs and two microfiche readers in my house fwiw 00:00 * Brooke is feeling the when I was your age our code was on punchcards age tonight.