Time  Nick          Message
22:25 tcohen        hi there
15:18 eythian       pianohacker: cait2: http://www.ritter-sport.de/de/besuchen/berlin.html
15:02 eythian       pianohacker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKGoVefhtMQ
14:52 drojf         eythian: i'll postpone all package thoughts to after liws workshop
14:49 eythian       it's just a matter of replacing my name+email with yours in debian/control
14:49 eythian       well adopting them is pretty much scriptable.
14:48 drojf         oh thats a lot
14:43 eythian       https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=robin%40catalyst.net.nz&comaint=yes <-- drojf, you should start adopting these
14:39 eythian       look who's decided to show up
14:37 drojf         hi #koha
13:45 eythian       to produce ES queries directly
13:45 eythian       QueryBuilder could also be used
13:44 eythian       yeah
13:44 pianohacker   eythian: as opposed to the rough melange Koha supports now?
13:44 eythian       (that said, CQL might be an OK thing to settle on in terms of search languages perhaps.)
13:43 eythian       though, at the moment it produces ES queries directly anyway
13:43 eythian       it must be programmable
13:43 pianohacker   eythian: Catmandu has a very strong emphasis on CQL, and the builtin Catmandu ES implementation requires an outside mapping. Do you think there's a clever way to use Koha's builtin stuff to create that mapping?
13:20 druthb        lawl
13:20 eythian       Time actually stops then.
13:19 nengard       hi all, i just upgraded to 16.05 ;) and I noticed that the timeline stops at Oct 5, 2015 on the about page
13:18 magnuse       eythian++
13:09 liw           eythian, yay!
13:09 eythian       it's now been uploaded into Debian
13:09 eythian       old DBIx::RunSQL link replaced with this one directly to the deb file: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/s/4Asak2zzKiuO8pF
12:55 paul_p_       thx eythian. will drop him an email then ;-)
12:54 eythian       paul_p_: he's in Berlin, but he's gone to nap for the afternoon
12:54 paul_p_       rangi = are u here (or visiting Berlin) ?
12:25 eythian       gmcharlt: There's a hopefully debian ready package for DBIx::RunSQL on alioth for your backporting pleasure.
12:17 eythian       DBIx::RunSQL package in here: https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/s/PdpAnvE0LgIgLoY
12:06 pianohacker   eythian: ah, yes you did
12:06 pianohacker   ah kk
12:05 eythian       I think I found all the places it was referenced and directed them to a dispatch thingy
12:05 eythian       pianohacker: I'm fairly sure I put something in for SimpleSearch
11:53 rangi         not sure, maybe not, it doesnt really work with anything
11:48 pianohacker   rangi: am I missing something, or does C4::Search::SimpleSearch not work with ES?
11:41 pianohacker   *blink* interesting code from Catmandu::ES... return unless $total if defined $total;
11:40 magnuse       eythian++
11:39 fridolin      sweet
11:34 rangi         sweet :)
11:32 eythian       ah well. I'll just have to make drojf do it as part of his initiation :) (I have a ready-for-debian package for DBIx::RunSQL.)
11:26 rangi         hmm not on this machine
11:20 eythian       rangi: do you have the ability to push to git.debian.org? I don't have my old key handy, and it hasn't picked up my new one yet.
11:19 magnuse       jambalaya!
11:14 eythian       too much  jambalaya really
11:10 magnuse       too much cheese?
11:10 magnuse       heh
11:10 eythian       post lunch minor coma
11:08 magnuse       cait2: how ya'll doing in berlin?
11:05 magnuse       \o/
11:05 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
11:05 magnuse       @wunder boo
11:02 LibraryClaire hi cait2 :)
11:00 cait2         hi LibraryClaire
10:46 magnuse       anyone wanna take the time to check if koha qualifies for a Best Practices Badge? http://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/
10:38 LibraryClaire hi rangi :)
10:37 rangi         hi LibraryClaire
10:18 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:18 Joubu         @later tell Brooke Bonjour :)
09:44 LibraryClaire morning #koha
09:41 pianohacker   in theory, yes, though I'm not sure of the mechanics
09:40 pianohacker   found 'em
09:36 eythian       specifically, _convert_marc_to_json at the bottom of that module is where they're referenced.
09:34 eythian       snap!
09:34 * Joubu       is too slow
09:34 Joubu         pianohacker: ES indexing code is in Koha::ES::Indexer (if it was your question)
09:34 eythian       Dig through from Koha::ElasticSearch::Indexer
09:32 pianohacker   eythian: any idea where that code lives?
09:32 pianohacker   eythian: I don't think directly, but we could write our own fix
09:30 eythian       then you could just have something that generates them
09:29 eythian       I wonder if you can provide a module for --fix somehow
09:29 eythian       because if so, that'd be pretty neat
09:29 eythian       does sending it to ES work with all the fixer rules that Koha uses to make things searchable?
09:20 pianohacker   catmandu export Koha::Biblio to MARC
09:20 pianohacker   things that are working, if not extraordinarily useful: catmandu move Koha::Biblio to ElasticSearch --index_name koha
09:16 eythian       My plan was for it to try in realtime and fall back to a queue if that failed, I think
09:16 eythian       that may have changed though
09:16 eythian       pianohacker: I have this memory that it would try to do it in realtime
09:16 rangi         pianohacker: if you are using packages its done realtime (well close to, it uses the indexing daemon that is on by default now)
09:15 ashimema      cheers eythian :)
09:15 pianohacker   eythian: out of curiosity, was live reindexing (at time of change) looked at for ES?
09:14 eythian       ashimema: happy birthday!
09:10 rangi         :)
09:09 Joubu         (not what I do!)
09:08 Joubu         it's easier to drink beers and use the wifi of the cafés
09:08 rangi         cool
09:08 Joubu         and then buy another topup to reach 20€ and you will get 2Go for a week, something like that
09:07 Joubu         you can get something at Cosmote (1st phone network), it's 15€ the sim card (with 10€ top up included). it's called "internet on the go", but lot of shops do not have this sim card (or they do not want to sell it, did not understand why...)
09:06 * fridolin1   in the place
09:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16608 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Missing entity nbsp in some XML files
09:05 fridolin1     whoooo 1 patch : Bug 16608
09:05 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
09:05 eythian       @later tell drojf https://goo.gl/photos/pCApfd8wVfTUdf8fA
09:05 rangi         luckily i can use my nz simcard and my nz data for $5 nzd a day there
09:05 Joubu         ha something else, if you plan to get a simcard with prepaid data, it's not so easy, and quite expansive
09:04 eythian       cait2: https://goo.gl/photos/pCApfd8wVfTUdf8fA
09:04 rangi         ahhhh
09:04 liw           no I tell a lie.  I only arrive on Thursday, actually.
09:04 rangi         liw: http://kohacon2016.lib.auth.gr/?page_id=2417
09:03 Joubu         (or baseball cap for bag!)
09:03 Joubu         Do not forget the sun cream and the hat!
09:02 liw           rangi, oh. I though it was hacking?
09:02 pianohacker   hehehe
09:02 rangi         pianohacker: https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/735847443376394241
09:01 rangi         liw: Thursday is the trip to the tombs :)
09:01 rangi         Joubu: cool :)
09:01 liw           rangi, all of Wednesday is a trip day, I'm going to be exhausted by the time in the afternoon
09:01 Joubu         rangi: ok I will try to catch you on #koha when we are around
09:00 rangi         in time for the day trip liw :)
09:00 magnuse       thanks - it IS rather nice!
09:00 liw           magnuse, I congratulate you on a reasonable temperature :)
08:59 * magnuse     will never arrive - eternal traveller!
08:59 magnuse       hah!
08:59 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:59 magnuse       @wunder boo
08:59 * liw         will be arriving Wednesday
08:58 rangi         Joubu: ill arrive around 10am tomorrow
08:58 huginn        liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 16.0°C (11:50 AM EEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
08:58 liw           @wunder helsinki
08:57 Joubu         We plan to arrive tomorrow in the afternoon, and yes she is here
08:57 liw           too hot
08:57 cait2         when are you getting to tessaloniki? is k. coming too?
08:57 cait2         ah ok
08:57 Joubu         yesterday it was 35° :)
08:56 Joubu         I am not in Thessaloniki yet, but 100kms south
08:56 huginn        cait2: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 25.0°C (11:20 AM EEST on May 27, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
08:56 cait2         @wunder Thessaloniki
08:56 cait2         ugh
08:56 Joubu         hot!
08:56 cait2         how is it? :)
08:56 Joubu         cait2: yep :)
08:54 cait2         Joubu: are you in greece already?
08:52 rangi         maybe
08:51 rangi         the font is Bitstream Vera Sans
08:51 rangi         yeah
08:51 Joubu         But would have been great to have the text
08:51 Joubu         Yes I think it's what I will do
08:51 rangi         https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha-egg.svg
08:51 rangi         could use this
08:50 rangi         ah annoying
08:50 Joubu         yes that's the one I found
08:50 rangi         found the ones at the bottom here?
08:50 rangi         https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation
08:49 Joubu         rangi: I have found https://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha3-staff-client-logo.svg but the inside of the 'o' and 'a' are not transparent (white instead...)
08:49 magnuse       and <> vs != seems to do the same thing, but both versions give a reset
08:49 rangi         we have svg of the black one
08:49 rangi         i dont think we have a good one of the green one
08:48 Joubu         the green one if possible
08:48 eythian       ah
08:48 magnuse       eythian: i'm saving it as a report, so the reset is apache, not mysql, i think
08:48 Joubu         I do not manage to find a good Koha logo (png or svg), does someone know where I can find that?
08:47 rangi         cool
08:47 Joubu         rangi: yes that's a first step. If we get others issues, I will do something better
08:46 eythian       I'd also check your mysql logs, because connection reset is not something that should ever be an answer.
08:45 eythian       this doesn't really answer your question, however.
08:45 eythian       (IIRC)
08:45 eythian       typically SQL is <>
08:45 eythian       magnuse: is != supposed to work?
08:44 rangi         to make it easy to add to other tt pages
08:43 rangi         but i was thinking, we could (in a new bug) make the token generation a TT plugin
08:43 rangi         Joubu: about to sign off 16591
08:41 fridolin1     Joubu: no i wont, i'think other deserves it
08:41 magnuse       whut? if i try to save the report "SELECT borrowernumber, cardnumber, firstname, surname FROM borrowers WHERE LENGTH( cardnumber ) != 14" i get "the connection was reset". if i try to save it as "SELECT borrowernumber, cardnumber, firstname, surname FROM borrowers WHERE cardnumber != 14" (without the LENGTH()) it works fine?!?
08:36 Joubu         fridolin1: will you be in Thessaloniki?
08:36 Joubu         fridolin1: fwiw I use MariaDB daily in my dev env and never had any issues with it
08:30 fridolin1     ok im online
08:30 wahanui       bugger all, i dunno, fridolin1
08:30 fridolin1     wahanui: are u there ?
08:27 t4nk602       can you tell me the requirements for installation of koha
08:27 cait2         it writes to apache logs instead... ubuntu 16.05, apache 2.4 etc.
08:27 cait2         hm anyone ever had problems with apache not writing ot the koha error logs?
08:26 pianohacker   rangi: in person ping
08:25 rangi         i am not sure what you are asking
08:25 t4nk602       hwen I buy linux OS it comes with Ubuntu?
08:24 rangi         ubuntu is a distribution of linux
08:24 t4nk602       ok
08:24 eythian       t4nk602: it only works on linux
08:24 wahanui       i think Ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions.
08:24 t4nk602       or Ubuntu?
08:24 t4nk602       is it working on Linux
08:23 fridolin      i'll have a try when I can
08:23 fridolin      16.05 should be tested with mariaDB 10.0/1
08:23 rangi         cool
08:22 eythian       yep
08:22 rangi         is anyone working on packaging dbix::runsql ?
08:16 t4nk602       I understand
08:16 t4nk602       It works on Linux?
08:16 cait2         so you can, but it is really early :)
08:16 t4nk602       I see
08:16 cait2         it is, but there are always some small catches found early
08:15 t4nk602       Isn;t the release stable
08:15 cait2         also, if you are running ubuntu 16.05 just don't
08:15 t4nk602       I thought it was released yesterday
08:15 t4nk602       Oww ok
08:12 magnuse       it is recommended to wait at least until the first maintenance release before upgrading a production system. that will be one month from now
08:12 magnuse       t4nk602: do you mean 16.05 which is just a few hours old?
08:11 magnuse       cait2: yeah, almost lunchtime!
08:11 t4nk602       hello any one here upgraded to latest release
08:11 liw           "Fri 27 May 08:11:00 UTC 2016" -- UTC is the only correct timezone, so it's still morning :P
08:08 pianohacker   yes..
08:06 cait2         why toolate? no longer morning yet?
08:05 pianohacker   cait2: too late :(
08:05 cait2         good morning pianohacker!
08:00 fridolin      I try to share a little bit more in community
08:00 fridolin      cool
07:59 pianohacker   fridolin: just saw that in the scrollback, thanks
07:58 fridolin      I've the solution if u want
07:58 fridolin      yesterday i was asking for Zebrasrv+Systemd for Debian Jessie
07:57 fridolin      pianohacker: hie
07:45 wahanui       well, it's morning somewhere, yes
07:45 pianohacker   good morning
07:00 liw           nice
06:58 fridolin      a simple service config file and it runs, it does not need daemon anymore
06:58 fridolin      documented in Wiki : https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian_Jessie_development_setup#Configuring_the_Zebra_Indexer
06:58 fridolin      i've find a simple solution
06:58 fridolin      for my problem yesterday with zebrasrv and systemd,
06:53 magnuse       hehe, a little bit, yes
06:53 eythian       Flying south for the summer, eh?
06:52 * magnuse     kicks himself into migration mode
06:51 wahanui       bonjour, alex_a
06:51 alex_a        bonjour
06:49 magnuse       word!
06:48 fridolin      mmmh, encoding is hell
06:46 eythian       * what this sends
06:46 eythian       fridolin: :-) I'm not actually sure what this sense, but I'd be surprised if it's UTF16 because then everything would be.
06:36 fridolin      6 Hexa chars are a UTF16 character
06:36 fridolin      look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16#U.2B0000_to_U.2BD7FF_and_U.2BE000_to_U.2BFFFF
06:36 fridolin      ahhhh Robin, nice to see u
06:34 eythian       The UTF8 is a Unicode smilie because I'm on my phone.
06:34 eythian       fridolin: I've stayed at your house, have you not had coffee yet?
06:32 fridolin      ahh NZ. mmm its a UTF character but so large, UTF-16 ?
06:31 eythian       fridolin: New Zealand, you know this 🙂
06:31 fridolin      my family is from north belgium so i understand a bit
06:31 fridolin      eythian: ah neederlands, where are u from ?
06:30 eythian       Helaas weer niet zo mooi 🙂 Have to wait for Greece for that.
06:28 eythian       Ja, natuurlijk.
06:28 marcelr       bonjour fridolin
06:28 fridolin      bonjouuuuuur the people
06:24 marcelr       alles goed in berlijn?
06:24 eythian       Hello marcelr
06:24 marcelr       hii eythian
06:17 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
06:17 eythian       @later tell rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/80458609/wellington-brewery-panhead-custom-ales-sold-to-lion-group
06:16 marcelr       hi #koha
06:06 * magnuse     waves
01:58 kathryn       hi francesca
01:37 francesca     Cool, hi Kathryn
01:35 liz           cool, kathryn's there :)
01:35 francesca     I'll be in soon
01:35 wahanui       privet, liz
01:35 liz           hi
01:35 francesca     Hello
00:07 Brooke        rinse repeat
00:07 Brooke        then I unjam it
00:07 Brooke        and gives up
00:06 Brooke        it staples once
00:06 Brooke        this stapler is a metaphor for my life
00:06 * Brooke      is way beyond obsession at this hour.
00:06 kidclamp      I have been avoiding that one for fear of getting obsessed
00:05 Brooke        Yer man is responsible for Oregon Trail being up there
00:05 Brooke        '
00:05 kidclamp      The Fool's Errand is still an amazing puzzle game
00:05 kidclamp      ooh, I have been playing their games
00:04 Brooke        he is *hilarious* in person
00:04 Brooke        https://archive.org/details/JasonScottPresentationTheWalkingDeadDigitalFrenimiesNDSR2016May2016
00:03 Brooke        http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4546
00:03 Brooke        hang on lemme google summat
00:02 kidclamp      no
00:02 Brooke        have you seen Jason Scott's talk on the emularity?
00:02 Brooke        the former is cool, the latter is just kinda excessive ;)
00:01 Brooke        oooof
00:00 kidclamp      heh, I have two card catalogs and two microfiche readers in my house fwiw
00:00 * Brooke      is feeling the when I was your age our code was on punchcards age tonight.