Time Nick Message 23:59 Brooke which I used to know XD 23:58 kidclamp nah, irc just has particular syntax 23:57 Brooke <---- big dummy 23:57 Brooke <3 wiz 23:57 liz there you go 23:57 huginn liz: Oak was last seen in #koha 1 day, 16 hours, 53 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <Oak> hello 23:57 liz @seen Oak 23:56 kidclamp you? 23:56 kidclamp reports etc 23:56 kidclamp neither, wrapping up tickets 23:55 Brooke coding or at Conference or neither? 23:54 kidclamp Hi brooke 23:54 Brooke hi kid 23:43 huginn Brooke: downloading the Perl source 23:43 Brooke @lastseen Oak 23:43 huginn Brooke: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message) 23:43 Brooke @last seen Oak 23:40 Brooke o/ 21:36 drojf we'll find out after sleep. good night ;) 21:34 eythian Did you say 16^5! Because that's a pretty big factorial. 21:34 bag awesome the koha hoodies and tshirts are ready for kohacon. I’ll be selling them there with all the money raised going to the koha fund :D 21:33 drojf depends on how thirsty eythian will be 21:32 bag how about 16^5 beers ;) 21:32 drojf i wanted to bake a 16.05 cake for the hackfest, but i think i will buy 16+05 bottles of beer instead 21:30 bag heh I guess so 21:30 drojf i think we did a good job at keeping the change in version numbering a secret :) 21:27 eythian ibeardslee: ^ also 21:26 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 21:26 eythian @later tell rangi https://youtu.be/s0KAFRxnhD0 21:26 drojf koha++ 21:26 drojf bag++ 21:00 * andreashm waves 20:52 drojf looks like i left seconds before 16.05. d'oh 20:51 drojf yes :D 20:51 ibeardslee I've seen rangi's beer posts, so I assume so. 20:40 * magnuse hopes the cool kids in berlin are having the appropriate amount of fun 20:05 bag yes :) we should be able to 20:01 bgkriegel hope we can fix those mysql 5.7 problems 20:01 bgkriegel bag: Good Job!! :) 19:52 bag thanks! 19:52 bgkriegel bag++ 19:50 bag https://koha-community.org/koha-16-05-released/ 19:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Release Notes for 16.05.00 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=625e1b77ae7a640acc06ffbec65bbec2129d597e> 18:14 bag ok going to grab some food - still working on the notes 15:47 bag later 15:46 fridolin i have to go, see u 15:46 fridolin bag: note that this perl module is quite simple, i've placed it in /usr/local/lib and it works 15:38 fridolin oki coool 15:38 bag yes gmcharlt is packaging that this weekend 15:38 oleonard I guess we are hoping someone will volunteer to package it. 15:37 oleonard It's not 15:37 fridolin i cant find it 15:37 fridolin is it in Debian somewhere ? 15:37 fridolin what about DBIx/RunSQL.pm dependency 15:35 tcohen maybe maria is not affected 15:35 tcohen and also some other changes 15:35 tcohen mysql got stricter (updatedatabase and install don't work) 15:35 fridolin ill try 15:35 fridolin ah oki 15:35 fridolin we are using MariaDB 15:35 * tcohen haven't tried actuallyt 15:34 fridolin tcohen: only for Mysql not MariaDB ? 15:34 tcohen for Koha 15:34 tcohen 5.7 is not working 15:34 tcohen only problem is the DB 15:34 tcohen yup 15:34 fridolin + plack and Nginx 15:33 fridolin we are using Xenial for your futur installs, its more compatible with LXD 15:33 tcohen everyone can download and just use 15:33 tcohen but use it to generate a docker image 15:33 tcohen keep kohadevbox ansible scripts for the deployment 15:32 tcohen fridolin: my plan is to have use kohadevbox to maintain a docker dev env 15:32 tcohen fridolin: sounds great! 15:30 oleonard I wonder if the hackfesters will still want simple patches for testing 15:29 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 26.3°C (10:25 AM CDT on May 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 15:29 nengard @wunder 78754 15:28 fridolin it allows me to test wheezy, xenial ... 15:28 fridolin whooo 15:28 fridolin LXD + Eclipse + GIT 15:28 fridolin i've battled to setup my dev env but now its clean 15:27 fridolin tcohen: hie mister 15:26 tcohen hi fridolin 15:21 fridolin suggar 15:21 bag 23 - that’s too hot :P 15:21 fridolin and I've just set up my dev env wiht LXDd 15:21 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 23.7°C (11:21 AM EDT on May 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 15:21 oleonard @wunder 45701 15:20 huginn bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is 13.5°C (8:11 AM PDT on May 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 15:20 bag @wunder pdx 15:20 fridolin but im working on getting hot on 3.22 :D 15:20 bag heh - it’s chilly here too 15:20 fridolin i'm a bit frozen 15:20 fridolin bag: thanks a lot 15:15 bag and hi there fridolin - good to see you back :) (I don’t think I said hi when you returned) 15:13 bag I haven’t had troubles 15:13 fridolin bag: what about mariaDB ? 15:13 fridolin oh good to know 15:11 bag I’ll go ahead with the release today, just with a BIG note saying that Koha isn’t supported for mysql 5.7 15:05 bag morning 15:00 wahanui guten morgen is german :) 15:00 tcohen guten morgen 14:52 oleonard That nagging feeling you've already filed a bug report for something but you can't find it... 13:40 * oleonard hopes the hackfesters will raise a glass to those who cannot be present, especially your favorites, we know who we are. 13:37 cait2 so right database for this installation 13:37 cait2 and if i do a report "select * from letter* they all show up 13:37 cait2 this is latest master 13:37 cait2 strange 13:36 oleonard cait2: It works for me 13:36 wahanui it has been said that not is maybe removed from my search 13:36 cait2 or not? 13:36 cait2 we are packing up, could you leave me alater if it works for you? 13:35 cait2 :( 13:35 cait2 i also checked some branches 13:34 cait2 all libraries 13:33 oleonard cait2: Do you have a branch selected which has no notices? 13:32 cait2 mine have vanished... it reads there are no letters defined but there shoudl be plenty 13:32 cait2 :( 13:31 cait2 mine has vanished although i have lots of entries in the letter table in the db 13:31 cait2 can you go check if you see letters in the tool? 13:31 cait2 someone with master 13:25 marcelr bye koha 13:25 marcelr have to go now 13:24 marcelr i will think a little bit about it and let you know 13:24 oleonard Yes 13:24 marcelr but we would like to have a distinction between a real popup and just a focus action 13:23 oleonard That's what I am hoping to do 13:23 oleonard I think having the click event is fine if we make the link more clear about what it does 13:22 marcelr property i_am_not_really_a_click_event ;) 13:22 marcelr it sounds ugly however 13:21 marcelr or we should add something in the plugins that tells FrameworkPlugin.pm that this is not really a click event but just a redirected focus 13:21 oleonard Yes, it was my goal to figure out how to make those links more clear about what they do 13:20 marcelr and you can do that probably much better than me :) 13:20 marcelr but we should make visible somehow that a plugin is active 13:19 marcelr i could live with removing that click code 13:19 marcelr yeah and that is confusing, but the cause is redirecting click to focus 13:18 oleonard Yes, in master date acquired and barcode both say 'tag editor' 13:17 marcelr s/see/say/ 13:16 marcelr i am in the latest master now 13:15 marcelr oleonard: i am seeing three item plugins all three incl barcode see Tag editor with me 13:13 marcelr i will check barcode now 13:13 marcelr maybe we should add some intelligent(..) property here (temporarily?) to make the distinction 13:13 oleonard In master, with your patches for 16203 applied, I see 'tag editor' for date acquired and 'no popup' for barcode. 13:12 marcelr it just contains a call to focus, but the plugin thinks it is clickable 13:12 marcelr this is caused by the function Clic code in the javascript 13:12 marcelr oleonard: i thought you saw nopop? but i am seeing tag editor in both cases 13:02 marcelr will go latest master now 13:00 marcelr are we looking to the same item edityor? 12:59 marcelr strang thing is that if i reset the new patch, i still see tag editor even when refreshing etc 12:59 oleonard marcelr: Why doesn't the date acquired plugin say 'no popup' instead? 12:58 rangi sweet 12:58 drojf [librecat-dev] Elasticsearch 2.0 support and a new fix parser https://lists.uni-bielefeld.de/mailman2/unibi/public/librecat-dev/2016-May/000079.html 12:57 rangi can't leave without having one 12:57 rangi excellent they have Berliner Weiße 12:52 rangi thanks 12:52 drojf [off] rangi: http://villa-rixdorf.com 12:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16203 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Convert item plugins to new style (see bug 10480) 12:52 marcelr yes oleonard if you apply bug 16203, date acquired in items will say: Tag editor 12:51 rangi drojf: whats the name of the bier garten? 12:51 marcelr ok will do a quick test with the items report to prove my point :) 12:50 oleonard Thank you very much marcelr, that helped me understand a lot better. 12:49 marcelr for this particular detail they do 12:48 oleonard And the old style plugins will need to be updated before it will be consistent? 12:48 marcelr yeah thats it 12:46 marcelr in additem noclick is called and passed as nopopup to the template 12:46 marcelr nopopup => $plugin->noclick, 12:45 oleonard Ah 12:45 marcelr the old ones probably do not respond to mv.nopopup 12:45 oleonard I was hoping that we might be able to at least display a different link+icon for the different styles of plugin 12:44 oleonard Yes 12:44 marcelr i think i recall already: the cause is that these plugins still use old style; note that i have a report somewhere converting them 12:44 oleonard barcode.pl also seems wrong 12:44 oleonard If you could look at that one, perhaps you might be able to explain to me how it works... where the popup/nopopup setting comes from 12:42 marcelr so your question specifically is about dateaccessioned? 12:42 marcelr oleonard: i'll have to look little bit closer to recall what happens 12:41 oleonard marcelr: You've been doing so much work on plugins I thought you might know what is going on with that. 12:40 marcelr ok thx will have a look 12:40 Joubu all what I know is on this bug report 12:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16104 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Warnings "used only once: possible typo" should be removed 12:40 Joubu marcelr: see bug 16104 12:39 marcelr ok i think that is wrong 12:39 oleonard For instance, the "Date acquired" field has a plugin which auto-fills the date on focus, but the plugin link is displayed as if it is a "popup" type plugin 12:39 marcelr np 12:39 Joubu thought you were talking about something else :) 12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Optionally require notes when placing a hold 12:39 marcelr Joubu: i see that warning when qaing the first patch of bug 15545 12:39 Joubu marcelr: ha sorry 12:38 Joubu marcelr: not at all, I just executed the tests 12:38 marcelr yeah i remember it 12:38 oleonard It's something I see in the template. 12:38 oleonard Do you understand what I mean by the "popup" and "nopopup" designation? 12:37 marcelr but we could make it visible some other way 12:37 marcelr otherwise removing the button would be an option 12:37 marcelr an argument to leaving the button was that it is a visible reminder that there is a plugin attached 12:36 oleonard My understanding is that the the focus method plugins should be displayed as "nopopup," but it seems like this isn't always the case. 12:36 marcelr auth search may be something different 12:35 marcelr and clicking on the button just triggers focus 12:35 oleonard Yes, I notice that there are a few types of plugins handled on the additem screen: Authority search, "popup" and "nopopup" 12:35 marcelr some of these item plugins only have a focus method 12:34 marcelr sounds good 12:34 oleonard I'd like to get away from the "..." link to something more clear 12:34 oleonard I was thinking about how we could make the interface a little more clear, particularly on the add item form 12:33 marcelr what about it? 12:33 wahanui oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 12:33 marcelr yes oleonard 12:33 oleonard marcelr: Do you have a moment to talk about cataloging plugins? 12:31 marcelr hi nengard 12:30 nengard morning all 12:30 marcelr Joubu: any idea what triggers this "valid" warning in qa tools: Name "Cache::RemovalStrategy::FIELDS" used only once: possible typo 12:25 drojf i built a package locally yesterday i think 12:10 LibraryClaire hi cait2 :) 12:10 cait2 hi LibraryClaire :) 12:09 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha 12:06 rangi if he had time that would be good 12:06 rangi basically you follow that, I know khall_away has registered with the debian perl team 12:06 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Dependencies 12:05 cait2 i haven't been around the last few days so no idea if someone is already working on it or not 12:05 cait2 maybe tomas? who knows how to do that? 12:04 cait2 i can't 11:59 Joubu (/me is not candidate) 11:59 Joubu looks like it's easy to package 11:59 cait2 it can be on our repo, but needs a package 11:58 cait2 pianohacker: the problem is you can't install koha using packages if it's not packaged 11:58 cait2 :) 11:58 pianohacker oleonard: I think we're making an exception because it's the reasonable fix to a major blocker 11:57 liw cait2, to quote a Debian slogan, all good things come to those who... wait 11:57 magnuse liw++ 11:54 cait2 liw: not soon enough maybe :) 11:53 liw I'll push some packaging advice down your throats soon. 11:53 cait2 i hope it will get packaged before release 11:46 eythian yep 11:45 oleonard I thought we didn't require stuff that wasn't packaged. 11:44 eythian nope 11:42 oleonard No package for DBIx::RunSQL? 11:37 wahanui germany is where germs come from. Ask me about germs. 11:37 eythian wahanui: germany 11:37 cait2 hi qxq :) 11:36 qxq hello :) 11:36 drojf hi qxq! 11:36 rangi hi qxq :) 11:34 cait2 hi oleonard 11:31 drojf [off] the ebsco person across the table said they will sponsor koha/coral integration. bu i think it's not public yet. hackfestleaks heh 11:29 * oleonard 's random existential keyboarding 11:28 oleonard y 11:24 oleonard Hi all 10:36 rangi in the catmandu workshop and we are getting to the harder stuff this afternoon so I need to pay more attention 10:35 rangi Joubu: I probably wont have time to look a the other xss ones that dont have patches yet today 10:15 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:15 Joubu @later tell oleonard ping for bug 16548 comment 6 please 10:15 huginn Joubu: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 10:15 Joubu @later oleonard ping for bug 16548 comment 6 please 09:29 rangi 3 of the contributorsin this room 09:29 rangi https://www.openhub.net/p/Catmandu-MARC/contributors/summary 09:20 cait2 thx eythian :) 09:19 magnuse jorol++ 09:18 eythian http://jorol.de/2016-Koha-Catmandu/slides/#55 08:55 rangi drojf: cool :) 08:54 fridolin oki I'll try to configure it and create a doc in wiki 08:53 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, fridolin. 08:53 fridolin ah there are in /etc/systemd/system/ 08:52 pianohacker sudo systemctl enable zebrasrv 08:51 pianohacker ah 08:51 fridolin pianohacker: yep but i think it does not start when server starts 08:51 pianohacker if not, I think there is a command to create it 08:50 pianohacker fridolin: a systemd compatibility service should automatically be created 08:50 fridolin pianohacker: is there a doc or a new script to setup zebrasrv with systemd ? 08:48 marcelr great 08:48 magnuse just dunno when 08:48 magnuse i will, one of these days 08:48 magnuse i'm battling a stubborn migration, and have 3 more of those lined up... 08:48 marcelr hope you will.. 08:48 magnuse marcelr: sorry, no 08:48 * magnuse wishes normarc was no_marc 08:44 pianohacker fridolin: I belive you're right, but what's your question? 08:43 fridolin since it uses systemd, the old init script is obsolete no ? 08:43 fridolin hie devs, how do we configure zebrasrv daemon with Debian Jessie ? 08:43 drojf [off] rangi: tweet mention https://twitter.com/luebbermann for the cola ;) 08:41 wahanui que tal, drojf 08:41 drojf hello 08:40 marcelr no_marc++ 08:39 eythian * normarc is now known as "no marc" 08:38 rangi hi marcelr 08:37 marcelr normarc 08:37 marcelr magnuse: got a chance to look at the normac plugin for 008 ? 08:37 marcelr and rangi 08:36 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 08:36 rangi @later tell joubu key installed 08:36 marcelr hi pianohacker and magnuse 08:36 magnuse hiya marcelr and pianohacker 08:34 pianohacker hello! 08:28 marcelr hi #koha 08:13 wahanui it has been said that hello is there an official install guide? i couldnt find anything on the docs page of the site 08:13 Martin-SUB Hello... 07:38 eythian yeah, I've been thinking that for a while. 07:37 rangi eythian: at some point I should rewrite our marc creator to use catmandu, for migrations 07:28 eythian yep 07:24 magnuse catmandu today? 07:24 magnuse kia ora eythian 07:16 eythian hi 07:10 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 07:10 gaetan_B hello 06:57 wahanui salut, alex_a 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:49 fridolin bonjour magnuse 06:48 magnuse bonjour fridolin 06:46 fridolin hie there 06:43 * magnuse waves 03:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Final DBRev for the 3.23 dev to 16.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d3396ab254f2b54f6929bffb67afb869e23cb47> 03:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Translation updates for Koha 16.05.00 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9111db96fab0c0bd87e5652129efd0ae10c16784> 01:59 bag hmm yeah let us know on that 01:51 brdrgz Yeah it's quite odd. I was just thinking it might be that my koha-sites.conf is missing the SRU default configs, maybe I'll try adding those 01:48 bag yeah I am not much help at the moment. I mean you’ve already got a site on there and it’s running. so you should just be able to create another doing that step 01:47 bag right 01:47 brdrgz I did try "sudo koha-create --create-db asdfdev", but was hoping the debug switch would help give me more info 01:46 brdrgz Well, there are plans to upgrade, was just hoping to get the other instance added and then upgrade 01:43 bag why “sudo bash -x /usr/sbin/koha-create --create-db asdfdev†instead of just sudo koha-create 01:40 bag disregard by question 01:40 bag ah I see deb7 cause you’re trying to add an instanst 01:38 bag and deb7 versus deb8? 01:38 bag why 3.20.00 instead of 3.20.17 (or whereever we currently are?) 01:37 bag hmm.. 3.20 01:37 brdrgz koha-common 3.20.00 01:37 brdrgz yup, deb7 01:37 bag brdrgz: you on debian? 01:32 brdrgz anyone have time to help me a bit? :) 01:24 bag did I lose internets? 00:20 brdrgz Any configuration pre-reqs to running koha-create for a new instance? I've added it to /etc/hosts, but that's it 00:17 pastebot "brdrgz" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "debug output for koha-create" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/7