Time  Nick        Message
23:30 dcook       Just a packaging query
23:30 dcook       gmcharlt: I don't suppose you're still around?
23:29 * dcook     waves
20:08 tcohen      bye #koha
19:53 andreashm   cait++
19:53 andreashm   cait: we'll look into that! thanks a bunch!
19:52 andreashm_  yup. that's clever.
19:52 cait        make sense?
19:52 cait        sent predue notice 5days befor ethe end of due date
19:51 cait        allow renewal 7 days before end of due date (circulation conditions)
19:51 cait        for example:
19:51 cait        this way a predue notice will only be sent out if the automatic renewal fails
19:51 cait        you set the period for when an item can be renewed in the circulation rules to a higher day value, than you set the predue notice too
19:51 cait        what you could do, and i think the library who wrote this does:
19:50 cait        andreashm_: take a look at th emessage settings
19:49 andreashm_  but what if you have automatic renewals scheduled (we will use that feature). Will predues be sent at all? and how do you decide how many days before the end of the loan period the mail should be sent?
19:48 andreashm_  thanks cait.
19:45 cait        same cronjob
19:45 cait        due notices are sent on the due date
19:45 cait        advance_notices checks the due dates of your items and the setting for the messages (how many days) and that triggers the notice
19:45 cait        predue is sent x days before the loan period ends
19:45 cait        there is a cronjob
19:43 andreashm_  ok, I've probably asked this before, but in that case I've forgotten the answer. But what triggers predue notices to be sent (how, when?). overdue notices have its status triggers, but what of the other notice types?
19:37 andreashm   hi cait
19:37 * cait      waves
19:34 * andreashm waves
18:59 oleonard    Bye #koha
18:02 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16470: Update MARC21 es-ES frameworks to Update 22 (April 2016) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4043e3924024275fe153a0c1a58b0f91997059c3> / Bug 16460: Update MARC21 frameworks to Update No. 22 (April 2016) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=353dc0b0d71a50944075f2fa89938c4387836f48>
17:52 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16382: Update German web installer sample files for 16.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d58f9c2f45c22e82cbc6d7d587bb56a939fec561> / Bug 16501: Remove some unneeded warns in Upload.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8117033e4c41247f453a9fb2488dc9568ab642f> / Bug 16471: Translatability: Fix issues in opac-password-recovery.tt <http://git.koha-community.or
17:51 jajm        interested in signing off ? :p
17:50 cait        ah
17:49 huginn      04Bug 15395: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Allow correct handling of plural translation
17:49 jajm        cait, using https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15395 we could easily have translatable strings in plugin (even with the current plugin system)
17:47 cait        jajm: translatable plugins? *hopeful
17:44 jajm        oleonard, no reason to have both, but if we choose to use the new, they can coexist until all existing plugins are "migrated"
17:42 oleonard    jajm: Do you think your new plugin system should replace the existing one? Or is there some reason to have both?
17:42 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16385: Fix breadcrumbs when ordering from subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1c97f0ff6202728b2e75de2eddbc5dcd84c04ed> / Bug 15086 - DBRev 3.23.00.064 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e07a68a6e7ad693386b1a526f585fb45616ee3d1> / Bug 15086: Creators layout and template sql has warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;
17:32 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16481 - Report menu has unexpected issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8aec387198ac589d4179064123a0f6e213efa5f1> / Bug 16259: Replace CGI->param with CGI->multi_param in list context - part 2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f3feacfe3897affbf76531eb3abd8cbc88a81e9> / Bug 1859: Do not display < > if an entry without value is selected <http://git.koha-co
17:22 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16288: (QA followup) Remove the syspref INSERT line <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b8bb85d5e84de0d34781b9f0985feda37e819e7> / Bug 16288: Remove unused EDI Shipping Budget syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ed1333d1d98c02df73be0d1bf99e80ffe3e4cac> / Bug 16288: Remove Reference to obsolete EAN syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi
17:11 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16402 - DBRev 3.23.00.063 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85410cc9bc1cb6106ae8922e9698f6fb349b8b7d> / Bug 16402: (QA followup) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e1b0e024297ecfe9b9ca91ea43e730db74a528a> / Bug 16402: Fix fox existing installations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74937f9c891b9a17c06cbb8100ef535c7da56285> / B
16:08 druthb      Plus, they get me media passes to cool conferences.  :)
16:08 druthb      Indeed.  Our editor sends out Cool Swag.  :)
16:07 oleonard    nengard's lavish lifestyle has shown you how lucrative the liberal FOSS media business is.
16:05 * druthb    blames nengard
16:05 oleonard    Three cheers for the liberal FOSS media!
16:04 * druthb    is part of the liberal FOSS media now.
16:03 druthb      oleonard:   yup!  Now through Thursday.  :)  press_pass++
16:03 oleonard    druthb: Conferencing today?
15:39 * cait      waves
15:27 oleonard    Hi bag
15:26 bag         morning
15:02 kidclamp    thnx oleonard
15:01 cait        thx!
15:01 reiveune    bye
15:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14390 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , Fine not updated from 'FU' to 'F' on renewal
15:00 cait        bug 14390
14:59 khall       will do cait! do you have the bug number handy?
14:59 cait        khall:could you take a look at rebasing the F/FU patch?
14:57 oleonard    kidclamp: The jQuery upgrade seems like a place to start if you're looking for the highlighting issue.
14:56 kidclamp    not yet oleonard, I looked at the history and nothing jumped out
14:51 oleonard    kidclamp: Did you try git-bisecting to find an origin for that bug?
14:47 oleonard    Joubu: Turns out I had a book checked out which didn't exist. Not sure how that happens, but I'll blame it on "test system."
14:12 Joubu       ok*
14:11 Joubu       oleonard: looks of here
14:10 oleonard    'Show checkouts' is broken for me in master. JS error.
14:09 kidclamp    oleonard: in 3.18 at least the selected date was marked selected/highlighted white while the curdate was yellow
14:07 oleonard    kidclamp: But I confirm the problem with the date not being remembered
14:07 oleonard    kidclamp: I think the highlight issue is a red herring. I think it always highlights the current date
13:52 tcohen      Joubu++
13:51 oleonard    Joubu++
13:51 Joubu       oleonard: we will see https://github.com/perlorg/perlweb/pull/194 :)
13:40 oleonard    Of course getting a change made to the page is made as difficult as possible https://www.mail-archive.com/perl4lib%40perl.org/msg01615.html
13:37 oleonard    Joubu: Very very wrong!
13:29 Joubu       On http://perl4lib.perl.org/, I'd say that the link for "Koha: a full featured open source library system" is wrong
13:03 oleonard    Yeah I can try to take a look
12:57 kidclamp    oleonard, can you take a glance at 16527 - you know a bit about the calendar plugin i think
12:56 Joubu       seems better with the submodule update
12:52 tcohen      https://launchpad.net/~ansible/+archive/ubuntu/ansible
12:51 tcohen      Joubu: can't you use Ubuntu's PPA for Ansible on Jessie?
12:50 tcohen      flag
12:50 tcohen      and it seemed to be fixed by the --recursive
12:50 tcohen      bgkriegel mentioned me some issues too
12:48 Joubu       maybe `git submodule update --init --recursive`then make deb again
12:47 pastebot    Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "==> jessie: Mounting NFS share" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/456
12:46 Joubu       `make deb` from src
12:45 tcohen      how did you get that version? using pip?
12:45 tcohen      can you paste the error?
12:44 Joubu       tcohen: yep 2.2.0
12:39 tcohen      2.2?
12:39 tcohen      which is yours?
12:38 tcohen      well, 2.0.0.2 on 16.04, 2.0.2.0 on O$ X
12:37 tcohen      it is 2.0.2.0
12:37 Joubu       ?
12:37 Joubu       tcohen: which version of ansible are you using
12:37 Joubu       yep
12:36 tcohen      Joubu: you are on latest master, right? (kohadevbox:master)
12:36 tcohen      Joubu: thanks, I don't have a Jessie box to try myself
12:34 Joubu       tcohen: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2016-05-13#i_1822127
12:34 kidclamp    ssh corpus
12:33 tcohen      Joubu: can you paste the error you get with kohadevbox?
12:33 tcohen      heh, hi kidclamp
12:32 kidclamp    tcohen even
12:32 kidclamp    hi tchoen
12:32 tcohen      hola #koha
12:16 kidclamp    morning
12:15 oleonard    Hi #koha
08:21 ashimema    morning #koha
08:20 * ashimema  thinks he needs to get back into koha some time soon.. can't wait 'till me epic migration marathon is over come the summer
08:18 ashimema    dcook still around?
08:18 ashimema    I did?
07:46 rajesh      hello
07:30 rajesh      hello janpasi
07:29 rajesh      hello
07:20 rajesh      anybody is online
07:20 rajesh      hello\
06:53 reiveune    hello
06:27 fridolin    hie all
03:22 huginn      dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:22 dcook       @later tell oleonard any thoughts on "paging" for https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns#Page_layouts?
01:55 * dcook     vanishes
01:55 dcook       But it's lunch time
01:55 dcook       rangi: Sorry, I still don't get what you're trying to get at
01:53 dcook       I guess to get the packaged Zebra to work you have to use /etc/koha/sites/$instancename/koha-conf.xml
01:52 dcook       Although I'm not sure they'll be enough
01:52 dcook       I keep thinking that ashimema made some really good changes for Koha and Zebra actually...
01:51 * dcook     is totally sneaking a dependency in
01:51 rangi       also a really good way to catch if some snuck a dependency in
01:51 dcook       Mmm that's true
01:50 rangi       at least that way it will catch if you have manually edited files too, and warn you, and give the option to overwrite or keep yours, and give a diff etc
01:49 dcook       And if you're doing it on a kohadevbox system...
01:49 dcook       Whereas make upgrade is scarier
01:49 dcook       I suppose people might be more familiar with installing packages
01:48 rangi       vs make upgrade
01:48 rangi       building and upgrading a package
01:47 dcook       What's "this" and "that" in that sentence?
01:47 dcook       ?
01:47 rangi       i just don't see that this is any more manual than that
01:47 dcook       And what I'd do in an alternative to kohadevbox
01:46 dcook       No, that's what I do myself
01:46 rangi       but they could do a perl Makefile.PL and a make upgrade?
01:45 dcook       Who is using kohadevbox
01:45 dcook       I'm trying to find a way for a non-developer to be able to test Zebra and koha-conf.xml changes
01:45 dcook       My point is that it currently is a manual process
01:45 dcook       Yeah, I was thinking of doing debian/build-git-snapshot
01:45 rangi       done
01:45 rangi       dpkg -i packagename
01:44 dcook       And the OS would still think it's installed Koha 3.whatever
01:44 rangi       which is the proper way to do it, debian/build-git-snapshot
01:44 dcook       Except you wouldn't be upgrading the package
01:44 rangi       you'd be doing exactly the same as upgrading the package
01:44 dcook       Unless you're pointing somewhere else
01:44 rangi       no you wouldnt
01:43 dcook       You'd overwrite the package install
01:43 dcook       That would probably be a bad idea, no?
01:43 * dcook     ponders
01:43 rangi       you can set a bunch of values and do a make upgrade
01:43 dcook       And a partial package install
01:43 dcook       It's a partial git install
01:42 rangi       it so is
01:42 rangi       just one has conf files in a different place
01:42 dcook       It's not
01:42 * dcook     shakes his head
01:42 rangi       both of them
01:42 rangi       its just a git install
01:42 dcook       ?
01:42 rangi       so how is that different
01:42 dcook       Well, make upgrade
01:42 dcook       Right
01:42 dcook       That's how I do it
01:42 rangi       not unless you ran make install
01:42 dcook       Yes it would
01:42 rangi       nope it wouldnt
01:42 dcook       rangi: It would update the Zebra files and the koha-conf.xml file
01:41 rangi       how exactly would that be different?
01:41 dcook       I'm tempted to make an alternative to kohadevbox which does a git dev install...
01:41 dcook       wizzyrea: Alas, I think it will proceed without that functionality
01:34 dcook       Too many things rely on the package install...
01:34 dcook       I guess you can't really test koha-conf.xml in this case...
01:21 dcook       That can't possibly be right...
01:21 dcook       '$prefix = $ENV{'INSTALL_BASE'} || "/usr";'
01:19 dcook       Ooooh yes... that might work, precious...
01:17 dcook       Hmm a person might be able to cheat though...
01:12 dcook       Since that needs to go through the source build process...
01:12 dcook       I think I might be able to do some of the Zebra stuff but don't know about the koha-conf.xml file...
01:10 * dcook     playfully shakes his fist in cjh's general direction
01:10 dcook       Yarp
01:10 wizzyrea    that's about how long it's been since cjh was working on koha
01:10 dcook       I'll take a little look right now to see what I can do...
01:10 dcook       Not for that last few years :p
01:09 wizzyrea    not yet, no
01:07 dcook       As koha-gitify doesn't seem to be able to test changes to Zebra files or koha-conf.xml...
01:07 dcook       Although that's easier said than done...
01:07 dcook       Then I thought about having a whinge but thought it might be more useful if I just improved koha-gitify :p
01:06 dcook       Oh, it's all right. I noticed that kohadevbox uses koha-gitify :/
01:06 wizzyrea    sup
01:02 dcook       Morning folks. Anyone around who uses the kohadevbox?