Time Nick Message 01:02 dcook Morning folks. Anyone around who uses the kohadevbox? 01:06 wizzyrea sup 01:06 dcook Oh, it's all right. I noticed that kohadevbox uses koha-gitify :/ 01:07 dcook Then I thought about having a whinge but thought it might be more useful if I just improved koha-gitify :p 01:07 dcook Although that's easier said than done... 01:07 dcook As koha-gitify doesn't seem to be able to test changes to Zebra files or koha-conf.xml... 01:09 wizzyrea not yet, no 01:10 dcook Not for that last few years :p 01:10 dcook I'll take a little look right now to see what I can do... 01:10 wizzyrea that's about how long it's been since cjh was working on koha 01:10 dcook Yarp 01:10 * dcook playfully shakes his fist in cjh's general direction 01:12 dcook I think I might be able to do some of the Zebra stuff but don't know about the koha-conf.xml file... 01:12 dcook Since that needs to go through the source build process... 01:17 dcook Hmm a person might be able to cheat though... 01:19 dcook Ooooh yes... that might work, precious... 01:21 dcook '$prefix = $ENV{'INSTALL_BASE'} || "/usr";' 01:21 dcook That can't possibly be right... 01:34 dcook I guess you can't really test koha-conf.xml in this case... 01:34 dcook Too many things rely on the package install... 01:41 dcook wizzyrea: Alas, I think it will proceed without that functionality 01:41 dcook I'm tempted to make an alternative to kohadevbox which does a git dev install... 01:41 rangi how exactly would that be different? 01:42 dcook rangi: It would update the Zebra files and the koha-conf.xml file 01:42 rangi nope it wouldnt 01:42 dcook Yes it would 01:42 rangi not unless you ran make install 01:42 dcook That's how I do it 01:42 dcook Right 01:42 dcook Well, make upgrade 01:42 rangi so how is that different 01:42 dcook ? 01:42 rangi its just a git install 01:42 rangi both of them 01:42 * dcook shakes his head 01:42 dcook It's not 01:42 rangi just one has conf files in a different place 01:42 rangi it so is 01:43 dcook It's a partial git install 01:43 dcook And a partial package install 01:43 rangi you can set a bunch of values and do a make upgrade 01:43 * dcook ponders 01:43 dcook That would probably be a bad idea, no? 01:43 dcook You'd overwrite the package install 01:44 rangi no you wouldnt 01:44 dcook Unless you're pointing somewhere else 01:44 rangi you'd be doing exactly the same as upgrading the package 01:44 dcook Except you wouldn't be upgrading the package 01:44 rangi which is the proper way to do it, debian/build-git-snapshot 01:44 dcook And the OS would still think it's installed Koha 3.whatever 01:45 rangi dpkg -i packagename 01:45 rangi done 01:45 dcook Yeah, I was thinking of doing debian/build-git-snapshot 01:45 dcook My point is that it currently is a manual process 01:45 dcook I'm trying to find a way for a non-developer to be able to test Zebra and koha-conf.xml changes 01:45 dcook Who is using kohadevbox 01:46 rangi but they could do a perl Makefile.PL and a make upgrade? 01:46 dcook No, that's what I do myself 01:47 dcook And what I'd do in an alternative to kohadevbox 01:47 rangi i just don't see that this is any more manual than that 01:47 dcook ? 01:47 dcook What's "this" and "that" in that sentence? 01:48 rangi building and upgrading a package 01:48 rangi vs make upgrade 01:49 dcook I suppose people might be more familiar with installing packages 01:49 dcook Whereas make upgrade is scarier 01:49 dcook And if you're doing it on a kohadevbox system... 01:50 rangi at least that way it will catch if you have manually edited files too, and warn you, and give the option to overwrite or keep yours, and give a diff etc 01:51 dcook Mmm that's true 01:51 rangi also a really good way to catch if some snuck a dependency in 01:51 * dcook is totally sneaking a dependency in 01:52 dcook I keep thinking that ashimema made some really good changes for Koha and Zebra actually... 01:52 dcook Although I'm not sure they'll be enough 01:53 dcook I guess to get the packaged Zebra to work you have to use /etc/koha/sites/$instancename/koha-conf.xml 01:55 dcook rangi: Sorry, I still don't get what you're trying to get at 01:55 dcook But it's lunch time 01:55 * dcook vanishes 03:22 dcook @later tell oleonard any thoughts on "paging" for https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns#Page_layouts? 03:22 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 06:27 fridolin hie all 06:53 reiveune hello 07:20 rajesh hello\ 07:20 rajesh anybody is online 07:29 rajesh hello 07:30 rajesh hello janpasi 07:46 rajesh hello 08:18 ashimema I did? 08:18 ashimema dcook still around? 08:20 * ashimema thinks he needs to get back into koha some time soon.. can't wait 'till me epic migration marathon is over come the summer 08:21 ashimema morning #koha 12:15 oleonard Hi #koha 12:16 kidclamp morning 12:32 tcohen hola #koha 12:32 kidclamp hi tchoen 12:32 kidclamp tcohen even 12:33 tcohen heh, hi kidclamp 12:33 tcohen Joubu: can you paste the error you get with kohadevbox? 12:34 kidclamp ssh corpus 12:34 Joubu tcohen: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2016-05-13#i_1822127 12:36 tcohen Joubu: thanks, I don't have a Jessie box to try myself 12:36 tcohen Joubu: you are on latest master, right? (kohadevbox:master) 12:37 Joubu yep 12:37 Joubu tcohen: which version of ansible are you using 12:37 Joubu ? 12:37 tcohen it is 2.0.2.0 12:38 tcohen well, 2.0.0.2 on 16.04, 2.0.2.0 on O$ X 12:39 tcohen which is yours? 12:39 tcohen 2.2? 12:44 Joubu tcohen: yep 2.2.0 12:45 tcohen can you paste the error? 12:45 tcohen how did you get that version? using pip? 12:46 Joubu `make deb` from src 12:47 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "==> jessie: Mounting NFS share" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/456 12:48 Joubu maybe `git submodule update --init --recursive`then make deb again 12:50 tcohen bgkriegel mentioned me some issues too 12:50 tcohen and it seemed to be fixed by the --recursive 12:50 tcohen flag 12:51 tcohen Joubu: can't you use Ubuntu's PPA for Ansible on Jessie? 12:52 tcohen https://launchpad.net/~ansible/+archive/ubuntu/ansible 12:56 Joubu seems better with the submodule update 12:57 kidclamp oleonard, can you take a glance at 16527 - you know a bit about the calendar plugin i think 13:03 oleonard Yeah I can try to take a look 13:29 Joubu On http://perl4lib.perl.org/, I'd say that the link for "Koha: a full featured open source library system" is wrong 13:37 oleonard Joubu: Very very wrong! 13:40 oleonard Of course getting a change made to the page is made as difficult as possible https://www.mail-archive.com/perl4lib%40perl.org/msg01615.html 13:51 Joubu oleonard: we will see https://github.com/perlorg/perlweb/pull/194 :) 13:51 oleonard Joubu++ 13:52 tcohen Joubu++ 14:07 oleonard kidclamp: I think the highlight issue is a red herring. I think it always highlights the current date 14:07 oleonard kidclamp: But I confirm the problem with the date not being remembered 14:09 kidclamp oleonard: in 3.18 at least the selected date was marked selected/highlighted white while the curdate was yellow 14:10 oleonard 'Show checkouts' is broken for me in master. JS error. 14:11 Joubu oleonard: looks of here 14:12 Joubu ok* 14:47 oleonard Joubu: Turns out I had a book checked out which didn't exist. Not sure how that happens, but I'll blame it on "test system." 14:51 oleonard kidclamp: Did you try git-bisecting to find an origin for that bug? 14:56 kidclamp not yet oleonard, I looked at the history and nothing jumped out 14:57 oleonard kidclamp: The jQuery upgrade seems like a place to start if you're looking for the highlighting issue. 14:59 cait khall:could you take a look at rebasing the F/FU patch? 14:59 khall will do cait! do you have the bug number handy? 15:00 cait bug 14390 15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14390 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , Fine not updated from 'FU' to 'F' on renewal 15:01 reiveune bye 15:01 cait thx! 15:02 kidclamp thnx oleonard 15:26 bag morning 15:27 oleonard Hi bag 15:39 * cait waves 16:03 oleonard druthb: Conferencing today? 16:03 druthb oleonard: yup! Now through Thursday. :) press_pass++ 16:04 * druthb is part of the liberal FOSS media now. 16:05 oleonard Three cheers for the liberal FOSS media! 16:05 * druthb blames nengard 16:07 oleonard nengard's lavish lifestyle has shown you how lucrative the liberal FOSS media business is. 16:08 druthb Indeed. Our editor sends out Cool Swag. :) 16:08 druthb Plus, they get me media passes to cool conferences. :) 17:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16402 - DBRev 3.23.00.063 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85410cc9bc1cb6106ae8922e9698f6fb349b8b7d> / Bug 16402: (QA followup) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e1b0e024297ecfe9b9ca91ea43e730db74a528a> / Bug 16402: Fix fox existing installations <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74937f9c891b9a17c06cbb8100ef535c7da56285> / B 17:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16288: (QA followup) Remove the syspref INSERT line <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b8bb85d5e84de0d34781b9f0985feda37e819e7> / Bug 16288: Remove unused EDI Shipping Budget syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ed1333d1d98c02df73be0d1bf99e80ffe3e4cac> / Bug 16288: Remove Reference to obsolete EAN syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi 17:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16481 - Report menu has unexpected issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8aec387198ac589d4179064123a0f6e213efa5f1> / Bug 16259: Replace CGI->param with CGI->multi_param in list context - part 2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f3feacfe3897affbf76531eb3abd8cbc88a81e9> / Bug 1859: Do not display < > if an entry without value is selected <http://git.koha-co 17:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16385: Fix breadcrumbs when ordering from subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1c97f0ff6202728b2e75de2eddbc5dcd84c04ed> / Bug 15086 - DBRev 3.23.00.064 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e07a68a6e7ad693386b1a526f585fb45616ee3d1> / Bug 15086: Creators layout and template sql has warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff; 17:42 oleonard jajm: Do you think your new plugin system should replace the existing one? Or is there some reason to have both? 17:44 jajm oleonard, no reason to have both, but if we choose to use the new, they can coexist until all existing plugins are "migrated" 17:47 cait jajm: translatable plugins? *hopeful 17:49 jajm cait, using https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15395 we could easily have translatable strings in plugin (even with the current plugin system) 17:49 huginn 04Bug 15395: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Allow correct handling of plural translation 17:50 cait ah 17:51 jajm interested in signing off ? :p 17:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16382: Update German web installer sample files for 16.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d58f9c2f45c22e82cbc6d7d587bb56a939fec561> / Bug 16501: Remove some unneeded warns in Upload.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8117033e4c41247f453a9fb2488dc9568ab642f> / Bug 16471: Translatability: Fix issues in opac-password-recovery.tt <http://git.koha-community.or 18:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16470: Update MARC21 es-ES frameworks to Update 22 (April 2016) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4043e3924024275fe153a0c1a58b0f91997059c3> / Bug 16460: Update MARC21 frameworks to Update No. 22 (April 2016) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=353dc0b0d71a50944075f2fa89938c4387836f48> 18:59 oleonard Bye #koha 19:34 * andreashm waves 19:37 * cait waves 19:37 andreashm hi cait 19:43 andreashm_ ok, I've probably asked this before, but in that case I've forgotten the answer. But what triggers predue notices to be sent (how, when?). overdue notices have its status triggers, but what of the other notice types? 19:45 cait there is a cronjob 19:45 cait predue is sent x days before the loan period ends 19:45 cait advance_notices checks the due dates of your items and the setting for the messages (how many days) and that triggers the notice 19:45 cait due notices are sent on the due date 19:45 cait same cronjob 19:48 andreashm_ thanks cait. 19:49 andreashm_ but what if you have automatic renewals scheduled (we will use that feature). Will predues be sent at all? and how do you decide how many days before the end of the loan period the mail should be sent? 19:50 cait andreashm_: take a look at th emessage settings 19:51 cait what you could do, and i think the library who wrote this does: 19:51 cait you set the period for when an item can be renewed in the circulation rules to a higher day value, than you set the predue notice too 19:51 cait this way a predue notice will only be sent out if the automatic renewal fails 19:51 cait for example: 19:51 cait allow renewal 7 days before end of due date (circulation conditions) 19:52 cait sent predue notice 5days befor ethe end of due date 19:52 cait make sense? 19:52 andreashm_ yup. that's clever. 19:53 andreashm cait: we'll look into that! thanks a bunch! 19:53 andreashm cait++ 20:08 tcohen bye #koha 23:29 * dcook waves 23:30 dcook gmcharlt: I don't suppose you're still around? 23:30 dcook Just a packaging query