Time  Nick          Message
00:08 Francesca     hello
00:37 wizzyrea      hi
00:38 wizzyrea      how doin
01:18 florent       rangi: sorry to bother. I need a second (better) opinion when convenient.
01:42 tcohen        kia ora
01:43 rangi         kia ora tcohen
01:45 tcohen        hey rangi
01:45 tcohen        how are you doing?
01:45 rangi         not too bad
01:46 rangi         oh hey i had a quesiton for you
01:46 rangi         i keep forgetting the answer
01:46 rangi         but what is the best way to turn on memcached for plack?
01:47 tcohen        i guess the usual, the configuration is now in koha-conf.xml only
01:47 tcohen        right?
01:47 rangi         hmm did they shift it back ?
01:48 rangi         i've lost track :)
01:48 rangi         i think on 3.22 its still ENV variables
01:49 tcohen        i think you are right
01:49 tcohen        https://snag.gy/ZLWvTY.jpg
01:49 tcohen        env takes care
01:50 rangi         ah yep and that passes through to the socket eh
01:50 rangi         ?
01:50 tcohen        good question :-D
01:51 tcohen        i don't think it is passed
01:51 rangi         It didn't seem to
01:51 tcohen        let me fire kohadevbox
01:51 rangi         i had to make a special plack.psgi
01:52 rangi         (well copy it to /etc/koha/sites/myinstance/)
01:52 rangi         and set the env variables in there
01:52 rangi         but i might have been doing something wrong
01:53 tcohen        interesting bug
01:53 rangi         yeah i was all why is nothing being set in the cache
01:53 rangi         ohhhh
01:55 tcohen        yeah, we should fix it
01:55 tcohen        by putting it back in koha-conf.xml :-P
01:56 tcohen        the idea behind a single plack.psgi file, was being able to patch it for the users
01:56 rangi         yeah exactly
01:56 tcohen        we added the per-instance file to adapt to koha-gitify
01:56 rangi         if we are moving to plack on by default, which it looks like we are
01:56 rangi         we'll need to fix it so it is in the config file
01:57 rangi         im not entirely sure why we moved to ENV
01:57 rangi         there must have been a reason, i just cant remember it
01:57 tcohen        it is because we cache koha-conf.xml
01:57 rangi         ah right
01:58 rangi         so we just need to read it first, then create the cache object, and cache it
01:58 tcohen        i'm sure eythian was involved in the discussion
01:58 rangi         that way if we change it, a koha-common restart will catch it
01:58 tcohen        now jacek and jonathan are doing stuff with the cache
01:58 tcohen        cool stuff
01:59 rangi         yeah it was a race condition thing
06:36 alex_a        hello
06:47 reiveune      hello
07:07 * magnuse     waves
11:36 * druthb      waves
11:40 magnuse       druthb!
11:41 magnuse       oleonard!
11:41 oleonard      hello!!
11:43 cait          druthb! oleonard! magnuse!
11:43 druthb        magnuse!
11:43 druthb        oleonard!
11:43 druthb        cait!
11:53 magnuse       @arewethereyet
11:53 huginn        magnuse: YES!
11:53 magnuse       oops
11:59 oleonard      Where is huginn going?
12:03 magnuse       to the galway races
12:49 atheia        Good day #koha :-)
12:50 atheia        I have a question about a patch I'm working on:
12:50 atheia        I need to add mandatory authorised_values and a borrower_attribute_type.
12:51 atheia        Does anyone know what files I should add those to?
12:51 oleonard      atheia: What does your patch do?
12:51 atheia        This is bug 5670
12:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5670 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Housebound Readers Module
12:52 atheia        So it's a feature that allows patrons to have a "housebound" profile associated with them, which can be used by volunteers and librarians to select and deliver items to those patrons who are housebound.
12:53 atheia        The athorised values are: 1) a frequency (the default which is added is 'every week'), a "role" for housebound stock choosers and a role for housebound stock deliverers.
12:54 atheia        hmm… the roles should be 2) and 3) respectively.
12:54 atheia        the roles are then used by the borrower_attribute_types, to designate specific borrowers as patrons with those roles within the housebound context.
12:54 atheia        Does that help?
12:56 oleonard      Yes, but I still don't understand "add mandatory authorised_values and a borrower_attribute_type." Do you mean you need to make those field mandatory in a form?
12:57 atheia        No, I just need to make sure that those default authorised_values and the borrower attribute is created during the Koha installation process.
12:57 atheia        Atomic updates ensures it is added during the update process, but I don't know the right way to add them during install.
12:58 oleonard      There are sql files which are loaded during installation
12:58 oleonard      installer/data/mysql/[ language ]/mandatory
13:00 atheia        OK — so I add relevant entries to the auth_values.sql there for every language in that folder?
13:00 tcohen        buen día
13:00 atheia        Hi tcohen :-)
13:03 oleonard      I think that's correct atheia
13:04 atheia        oleonard: Ok, ta very much for the advice :-)
13:05 magnuse       atheia: or consider making it optional, so you'd have to choose to use the housebound module
13:05 atheia        hey magnuse
13:05 magnuse       otherwise libraries will have a patron attribute they don't need
13:06 magnuse       might be ok to let libraries that do not want to use the module delete the patron attribute though
13:06 * magnuse     stops thinking out loud
13:06 magnuse       hiya atheia
13:06 atheia        Yeah, it's optional anyway (the syspref is switched off by default) — and the tests should work either way
13:07 atheia        But I figured it'd be better to provide people with an out of the box working module, for libraries that do what to use it…
13:07 magnuse       yeah, probably all good
13:08 * magnuse     takes a break
13:10 tcohen        hi magnuse !
13:15 cait          atheia: everything booked? :)
13:15 atheia        o/ cait
13:15 atheia        Yup — super organised!
13:16 atheia        Got transport and accomodation sorted for both hackfest and kohacon :-)
13:16 cait          cool :)
13:16 atheia        I imagine you've been on top of this for ages by now??
13:16 cait          are you going home for the weekend now?
13:16 cait          i have booked, but still need to figure out thw how to to airports and hotels etc
13:16 atheia        Yeah, had other commitments for the weekend in between :-/
13:16 cait          ah ok
13:16 cait          was wondering on hwich flight to greece you might be :)
13:17 atheia        I see — nah unfortunately it'd be unlikely you'd be on mine ;-)
13:17 cait          https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon_2016:_Who_is_arriving_when *hint*
14:29 drab          morning koha
14:29 drab          fwiw koha on mysql 5.7 doesn't seem to really work, just tried a new instance on ubuntu 16.04 and couldn't get past the web installer, couldn't insert stub data
14:30 drab          I'm giving up and going back to ubuntu 14.04 and mysql 5.5 because I need to have this done today, but thought I'd mention
14:30 drab          lots of apps out there seem to just be breaking with 5.7, there's a zillion posts of ppl trying to get 5.5 running on ubuntu 16.04
14:31 cait          drab: there is a bug, let me find it
14:31 cait          bug 16403
14:31 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16403 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix Holds.t (tests 9 and 39)
14:31 cait          is this what you see?
14:31 cait          ops
14:31 cait          oups
14:31 cait          bug 16402
14:31 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16402 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Web Installation fails - Step 3 Importing the Database Structure
14:32 cait          sorry, typoed
14:34 drab          cait: yeah that's the one
14:40 drab          thanks
14:44 tcohen        is jacek around?
14:44 amyk-Marywood Hi does anyone know what koha community version EDI is officially in? thanks
14:46 tcohen        16.05
14:46 amyk-Marywood thank you!!!!!
15:01 kidclamp      oleonard - rebased and squashed 3534
15:05 oleonard      kidclamp: Did you squash my patch too?
15:09 reiveune      bye
15:18 kidclamp      yes, I fixed the toggle showing up on the regular screen and incorporated all your changes
15:18 kidclamp      oleonard
15:36 oleonard      kidclamp: Looks like there's some debugging stuff left in. I see the text "Exist!" at the top of the quick add form.
15:38 kidclamp      heh
15:42 kidclamp      removed that and the js logging
15:57 atheia        Does anyone know whether mveron might be around? (unfortunately I don't know their IRC handle…)
16:05 kidclamp      @seen mveron
16:05 kidclamp      seen mveron
16:05 huginn        kidclamp: mveron was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <mveron> Yes please, I'm a little bit short of time...
16:07 oleonard      atheia: mveron doesn't seem to spend much time here (too busy signing off on patches?)
16:07 atheia        ah, handy command kidclamp  :-)
16:08 atheia        oleonard: ^^ well, they have their priorities straight it seems ;-)
16:22 nengard_rr    hey Koha - question
16:22 nengard_rr    when Acq finds dups
16:22 nengard_rr    what field is it using?
16:22 nengard_rr    please don't say title
16:23 cait          no idea
16:23 cait          but if you find out - i'd like to know :)
16:23 cait          i am not sure we do it the same way in all places - there is the duplicate check on the staged marc import, and the one for suggestions
16:23 cait          possible some other too?
16:23 nengard_rr    how would one find out?
16:24 nengard_rr    I'm seeing something not good at all in a training
16:24 nengard_rr    and it seems like it's title if there is no isbn
16:24 cait          i think htat would not be super bad if there is an option to override - where are you seeing it?
16:26 nengard_rr    so, we imported a file, looked for dups on 024 and found some, staged file, ordered from file, acq stopped us from loading 6 titles that weren't matches in the stage tool, they have no isbn in them but there are book matches for the dvds and it's no letting us batch order because of it
16:39 cait          nengard_rr: ĥm i think that's a feature from kivi
16:39 cait          for the staged import
16:40 cait          nengard_rr: maybe i can find the bug report
16:40 cait          bug 12074
16:40 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12074 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Filter duplicates when adding a full batch from a staged file
16:41 cait          hm no, from lyon
16:42 cait          it seems to use FindDuplicate
16:43 cait          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Search.pm;hb=47dc39997198126be702c13c58053e793c609f90#l83
16:44 cait          i might be misreading it, but looks like isbn when there is one - if there is none, title and author
18:02 * cait        waves
18:13 mveron-away   Hi #koha
18:14 oleonard      Hi mveron
18:14 mveron        hi oleonard :-)
18:14 mveron        @wunder Allschwil
18:14 huginn        mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 19.0°C (8:00 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
18:15 mveron        @wunder Helsinki
18:15 huginn        mveron: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 20.0°C (8:50 PM EEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
18:26 oleonard      Are you planning a trip to Helsinki mveron?
18:29 mveron        Yes, I will be there for a some days. Family trip, our daughter lives there.
18:44 mveron        oleonard: I'm testing Bug 3534  Patron quick add form, the save does not work, could it be related to the new floating save?
18:44 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Patron quick add form
18:47 oleonard      mveron I haven't looked at it since kidclamp rebased it, so I don't know
18:49 magnuse       @wunder bo
18:49 huginn        magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
18:49 magnuse       @wunder boo
18:49 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
18:58 eythian       @wunder ams
18:58 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 19.9°C (8:50 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
18:58 eythian       Too warm
18:59 druthb        @wunder 77447
18:59 huginn        druthb: The current temperature in Blueberry Farm, Hockley, Texas is 29.9°C (1:58 PM CDT on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
18:59 magnuse       oh poor you, eythian ;-)
18:59 druthb        poor both of you.  :P
18:59 druthb        Having to be all cold like that.
18:59 magnuse       lulz
18:59 magnuse       @wunder muscat
18:59 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Al Hail South, Muscat, Oman is 36.8°C (10:59 PM GST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa.
19:00 * magnuse     knows someone who lives there
19:00 magnuse       @wunder longyearbyen
19:00 huginn        magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
19:00 oleonard      Bye all
19:00 magnuse       have fun oleonard
19:00 magnuse       @wunder kautokeino
19:00 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Enontekio, Norway is 4.0°C (9:50 PM EEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
19:01 magnuse       @wunder karasjok
19:01 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Karasjok, Norway is 7.4°C (9:00 PM CEST on May 10, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:02 eythian       magnuse: it was 27 in the weekend.
19:03 eythian       The main problem is my apartment is well insulated, so it's 25 inside.
19:03 magnuse       ok, i'll admit that is a major nuisance :-)
20:11 mveron        Good night / daytime #koha
20:11 cait          hi mveron :)
20:11 cait          i think someone was looking for you today
20:11 mveron        Hi cait :-)
20:13 mveron        Yes, it was about bug 6906, I mistaked while testing.
20:13 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Signed Off , show 'Borrower has previously issued $ITEM' alert on checkout
20:13 mveron        cait: I will be out of office for a couple of days.
20:14 cait          ah, are you traveling?
20:14 cait          i hope it's a fun reason
20:14 cait          I think you made atheia very happy with that sign off
20:14 mveron        Yes, Helsinki. Our daughter lives there.
20:14 cait          oh nice - hope you have a good time :)
20:15 mveron        We will do a roadtrip in the south of Finland.
20:15 cait          sound scool
20:15 cait          sounds cool even
20:15 mveron        Flight goes very early tomorrow, so I have to log off now...
20:16 mveron        Good night / daytime everybody
20:16 cait          bye mveron!
20:16 cait          safe travels
20:16 mveron        Thanks :-)
20:16 mveron        Bye
20:35 tcohen        bye #koha
20:42 drab          later #koha
21:19 * andreashm   waves
21:20 * cait        waves
21:21 rangi         morning
21:22 cait          morning rangi
21:22 andreashm     I'm trying to look at bug 10662 again (yeah, that one)
21:22 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
21:22 andreashm     hey rangi
21:22 andreashm     cait
21:23 drojf         evening
21:23 cait          hey drojf
21:23 drojf         hi cait
21:24 andreashm     I'm getting a "Can't locate POE.pm in @INC" when I'm trying to start the harvester. is this my kohadevbox having problems or something up with the patch?
21:24 andreashm     hi drojf
21:24 drojf         hi andreashm
21:24 cait          hm i think you might bemissing a perl dependency
21:24 rangi         andreashm: looks like it adds a new dependency
21:24 rangi         does the patch (or patches) add that to the list of dependencies?
21:26 andreashm_    back
21:27 cait          heh
21:27 cait          did you see rangi's question?
21:27 andreashm_    yeah
21:27 andreashm_    I checked the log
21:27 andreashm_    not that I can see.
21:28 rangi         then yeah, thats a failed qa
21:28 andreashm_    drojf: didn't you manage to get the OAI-PMH harvester up and running to test?
21:28 rangi         it should touch
21:28 cait          if you want to contine testign you can install it - but should note it
21:28 rangi         C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm
21:28 rangi         and add it there
21:29 andreashm_    I did try to install it. Couldn't get it to work though (got a bunch of failed tests etc.)
21:30 drojf         andreashm_: i did, but i think i missed some newer patches. but maybe i installed that back then, don' remember
21:30 andreashm_    o, thanks.
21:30 andreashm_    I'll check with dccok
21:30 andreashm_    gah, dcook
21:51 drojf         good night #koha
23:15 Francesca     @wunder wlg
23:15 huginn        Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on May 11, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
23:55 * Francesca   waves