Time Nick Message 23:58 bag no - I usually ask tcohen to install those 23:55 rangi they will need a couple of modules installed 23:55 rangi bag: do have ssh access to any of the jenkins nodes? 23:32 rangi cool will do 23:31 bag rangi if I missed any of the ES bugs that need to be moved to Pushed to Master - let me know - I think I grabbed them all 23:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16154: Fix some other occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c133bedf54d34b5f7f4deec6bfe2f375ccc9b713> / Bug 16154: CGI->multi_param - Assign a list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a159d2b067c62bbfd524709813071951bc600ae4> / Bug 16154: CGI->multi_param - Force scalar context <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3e4b5bbb6b 23:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16354 - TestBuilder.t fails due to key constraints <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b866b91affb4e96cf2bc0a3b66bb638ddc54986> 22:33 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 22:33 pianohacker oh, interesting 22:32 cait ah, i left a comment 22:32 pianohacker what's up cait 22:31 pianohacker he's away ;) 22:26 cait khall_away: ? 21:58 cait keep wanting to ask him questions 21:58 cait ah, too bad oleonard is gone already 21:50 wizzyrea cool 21:44 francesca I'll be in sometime in the next hour or so 21:44 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 21:44 francesca Good morning 21:40 andreashm bye #koha 21:40 andreashm cait++ 21:40 andreashm but now it's getting late, have to finish that tomorrow. 21:40 andreashm yay, it worked! 21:36 cait np 21:36 andreashm cait: ah, I missed that. will try again. thanks! 21:36 cait did you apply the dependency? 21:34 andreashm heh. Stockholm. 21:33 andreashm We have tested it at Stockhol Univ and I wanted to apply to do a sign-off, but can't apply it here 21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines 21:32 andreashm does bug 15165 apply for anyone else? 21:29 cait huh 21:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16249: Zebra-specific tests should pass with ES disabled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc5982374a08c150d1a95bf582ff0ca21f7f51e5> 21:22 wizzyrea https://t.co/h5E91nYrt4 eythian you would kick ass at this. 21:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16249 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Zebra-specific tests should pass with ES disabled 21:19 bag Bug 16249 21:17 bag tcohen++ 21:17 andreashm cait++ 21:17 andreashm tcohen++ 21:17 tcohen :-P 21:17 tcohen koha++ 21:16 andreashm bye tcohen! thanks for the info! 21:16 tcohen bye everyone 21:16 * tcohen leaves 21:16 cait andreashm: 'document availability information api' - my coworker built a server for providing it to the different ILS we support - but i know he uses SRU underneath 21:16 tcohen hi wizzyrea 21:16 tcohen and then make sure they can access your SRU server 21:16 * andreashm waves 21:16 wizzyrea also hi 21:15 wizzyrea dunno eythian did all of that 21:15 tcohen so, enable OAI + include_items 21:15 wizzyrea [09:13] <tcohen> we had to make items available through OAI < I feel like we've done this as well 21:15 andreashm ah, cool 21:15 tcohen so they query availability 21:15 tcohen you need to allow remote access to the SRU server 21:15 tcohen andreashm: thats's correct 21:14 cait so SRU might be fast enough 21:14 tcohen ah 21:14 andreashm daia? 21:14 cait it's developed on top of Koha's SRU i think 21:14 cait we are using a daia api 21:13 andreashm saw on an old post on the mailinglist that using oai wasn't sufficient for real time availability checking (with eds) 21:13 tcohen es++ 21:13 tcohen koha++ 21:13 tcohen rangi++ 21:13 tcohen bag++ 21:13 huginn 04Bug 14899: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Mapping configuration page for Elastic search 21:13 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 21:13 cait it seemed like they already used oai with other kohas 21:13 bag @later tell Joubu can you rebase this for me? https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14899 (I’ll get some testers on that immediately) thanks 21:13 tcohen we had to make items available through OAI 21:13 andreashm just good examples of how it works, to provide info via oai 21:12 cait no questions 21:12 cait andreashm: we just turned it on for ebsco - and they use it 21:12 tcohen did you have a specific question? 21:12 tcohen i'm about to leave 21:12 andreashm cait, tcohen: did you have examples that use oai? 21:12 tcohen hi andreashm 21:11 andreashm got logged out 21:11 andreashm back 21:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12478: (RM followup) fix syntax error in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca405ec114d13c68bb0ea770916afd4e1e16cc8c> 21:04 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 21:04 tcohen @later tell andreashm I didn't read your question, I have some customers using EDS with the Koha I provide 21:03 tcohen woooooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooo 20:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 12478 - Elasticsearch support for Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f24dd95e5d4b3c1b7b9adf5618790f516b5889c5> / Bug 12748: (QA followup) make new tests pass <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ceaec34d314b147ac06373487cc27ae59c53bcf9> / Bug 12748: (QA followup) fix several tiny QA tools warnings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a 20:56 cait andreashm: I know of a library using it with ebsco's discovery layer 20:48 pianohacker andreashm: you may wish to get in touch with dcook 20:37 huginn andreashm: The current temperature in Sion military, Switzerland is 9.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 20:37 andreashm @wunder Sion, Switzerland 20:32 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 14.9°C (5:30 PM ART on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 20:32 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 20:28 andreashm oh yeah, sorry 20:27 tcohen we are entering autuum 20:26 andreashm tcohen: how's spring in Argentina? 20:26 andreashm Anyone know of any good examples of libraries using Koha as a OAI-PMH server? (For use with a Discovery system) 20:24 andreashm nice! 20:22 tcohen i'm trying to code a bit 20:22 tcohen hey 20:19 andreashm what's up? 20:18 andreashm hi tcohen! 20:18 tcohen hey andreashm 20:04 andreashm hey #koha 18:59 oleonard I will take my answer off the air 18:57 oleonard Does a "correct" uninstall remove data from the plugin_data table? 18:57 oleonard I guess you can just manually construct an uninstall link using the class name. 18:57 oleonard How do you manually remove a plugin if it doesn't have an uninstall link? 18:26 cait cool 18:23 bag khall: is looking at it now 18:23 bag yup we’re on it cait 18:21 cait there is also a bit of a mess with preferences - one is showing up under local use, tcohen filed a bug for it, all linked from the main one 18:21 cait still there 18:20 bag ah I thought we already did 18:20 cait i think we need to remove it 18:20 cait bag: check the tools page - there is another edifact messages there 18:16 bag added by the process 18:02 oleonard I know nothing about it. 18:02 oleonard Or is that something which is added by the process? 18:01 oleonard The "EDIfact messages" page in Acquisitions doesn't show any means of adding an EDIfact message. Shouldn't it? 17:56 cait also a problem with the preferences 17:56 cait there are some reamining bugs with edifact - like the obsolete link on tools that leads nowhere - is someone working on those? 17:52 khall no real reason not to 17:52 khall oleonard: I think we should maybe add a "force uninstall" option or some other way of allowing plugins to be uninstalled even if they don't have an uninstall method 17:51 oleonard I was curious why there was no uninstall link for the MARC checker plugin (which shows up now that the dependency is satisfied) 17:51 khall gotcha 17:51 oleonard I'm just poking around at the moment, not trying to accomplish anything in particular except examine the way the templates work. 17:50 khall oleonard: if it's one of mine I can update it it pretty easily for you 17:49 khall short answer, correct 17:49 khall each plugin should have an uninstall sub for cleaning up after themselves 17:48 oleonard khall: Some plugins can uninstall themselves and some can't? 17:44 oleonard Okay yeah I didn't see the dependencies because instructions are for suckers and I'm a go-getter. 17:23 khall you should have gotten an error if the plugins dir wasn't writable 17:23 khall oleonard: looks like the files didn't get installed, so that's not the issue 17:20 khall or docs with large bold text 17:20 khall we need some kind of dependency declaration system for plugins 17:19 khall that's the one 17:19 tcohen libmarc-lint-perl 17:19 khall oleonard: I think that one needs extra libs 17:19 kidclamp and do you have all perl dependencies? 17:19 kidclamp did the upload fail or it just didn't show? 17:18 oleonard MARC checker 17:15 kidclamp which plugin oleonard? 17:14 oleonard No visible error message. All I see in the log is something about "Use of uninitialized value $op in string eq" 17:13 khall oleonard: can't say I have. I'll give it a shot as well 17:13 oleonard I just tried uploading a plugin and it failed. Is that something you've tested recently? 17:12 khall what's up? 17:12 oleonard khall around? 17:06 oleonard bgkriegel++ # Looking busy! 16:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16328: follow-up for bug 15044 - Fix datatable error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7354547ce323cf88ed40f4d2b65b06b98ce61c34> 16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery in staff client: use .prop() instead of .attr() 16:45 oleonard Hey I'll bet you're bored and don't want to do work but you want to look busy so why not sign off on Bug 16238? The last patch is just a whitespace fix. 16:11 oleonard Yes the link changes based on which view it is 16:09 Joubu oleonard: don't you think we should also be able to switch from full to quick? 16:04 kidclamp oleonard++ 16:04 kidclamp I wouldn't stop ya ;-) 16:03 oleonard kidclamp: I can submit a followup for that if you'd like 16:03 kidclamp okay, will move buttons to top of both forms and convert to links 16:03 oleonard Yes 16:02 kidclamp oleonard: is that a link with a fa icon? 16:01 oleonard My suggestion for the toggle controls on the form itself: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14616864787044 16:01 Joubu oleonard: if you agree, I am fine with the second button 15:59 oleonard It's not like we're running out of space in that toolbar. 15:59 kidclamp it could just say 'Quick add' instead of 'Quick add new patron' 15:58 oleonard Yeah I'm thinking now that the second button is probably best. 15:57 kidclamp and let staff have either they wanted without deciding for all libraries 15:56 kidclamp I liked the second button because it took all of that decision away 15:55 kidclamp We could have a second pref: defaulttoquickadd 15:54 Joubu but don't think it could work 15:54 Joubu I was thinking about some JS code to "enable" the button when the user is on the patron add form 15:52 Joubu and a switch button would allow to switch to the quick form 15:52 Joubu oleonard: I'd say the default is the current form 15:51 oleonard kidclamp I think your sponsor must want it to be default if PatronQuickAddFields is defined. 15:51 oleonard Maybe I'm thinking too much about it. I'm concerned that a library will want to have the option of patron quick add, but not want it to be default. 15:50 oleonard If we take away the separate quick add button, then we have to choose a default 15:48 oleonard I think the unanswered question is, how do you choose which version of the form is default? 15:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3534 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Patron quick add form 15:48 oleonard Regarding Bug 3534... 15:47 Joubu oleonard: yep 15:44 oleonard Joubu around? 15:40 reiveune bye 15:29 Oak hmm. Yes, that too. 15:25 oleonard Yeah I wish I knew why it did that. It makes me think some valid errors will slip through. 15:24 Oak oleonard, I'll also ignore that same Plugins.pm message in future then... if all else looks OK. 15:22 bag hi hi 15:21 Oak hello bag 15:21 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 15:21 Oak heya oleonard 15:21 Oak Hello wizzyrea, cait 15:21 oleonard Hi Oak 15:20 bag morning 15:19 * Oak waves 15:03 * JesseM waves 15:00 * cait waves 14:52 pianohacker hi tcohen 14:47 tcohen hey cait 14:46 * cait waves 14:46 tcohen hi pianohacker 14:46 pianohacker yo 13:55 kidclamp I have had to be much more mindful of the words I use when entering 'crap' data since I have to do demos occasionally 13:54 * oleonard should hire a mechanical turk just to input random acquisitions data into his test system 13:33 eythian drojf: yes, yes they will :) 13:33 drojf orange umbrella salespeople will have the best day ever 13:32 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Heatherstone, Athens, Ohio is 16.0°C (9:32 AM EDT on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 13:32 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:32 eythian It's koningsdag tomorrow, the weather does not look promising for having thousands more people in the city than normal. 13:30 drojf i got sunshine now! for a few minutes, until there is snow or rain or whatever 13:28 drojf lol. yeah that happens sometimes 13:27 eythian it's missing the fact that I had solid rain hitting me while biking in this morning. 13:27 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.1°C (3:19 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). 13:27 eythian @wunder ams 13:26 drojf but the weather did not care ;) 13:26 drojf i don't want this 13:26 drojf we had snow a few days ago 13:26 tcohen brrrrrrr 13:26 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 13:26 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 13:26 drojf hi tcohen 13:26 tcohen hi drojf 13:26 tcohen brrrr 13:26 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 10.8°C (10:25 AM ART on April 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 13:26 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:19 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 13:19 drojf @later tell dcook i could install http::oai 4.x from debian testing without any problems, i just can't build the deb package from cpan. now i can build catmandu-oai too 13:18 drojf hi #koha 13:05 tcohen hi Joubu 12:36 tcohen jcamins: thanks for your message 12:35 tcohen morning #koha 11:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arslanone, Needs Signoff , Making authority tags and subfields actions buttons 11:58 oleonard Someone else gets the same qa tools error as me. I thought I was unique. Bug 16263 11:49 oleonard Hi #koha 11:49 magnuse have fun #koha! 10:15 magnuse it's oh so quiet... 07:38 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 07:38 eythian @later tell dcook if it's any consolation I was having beers with Australians yesterday! 07:15 wahanui bidet, gaetan_B 07:15 gaetan_B hello 07:04 alex_a salut Oak 06:58 Oak Bonjour Monsieur alex_a 06:56 alex_a bonjour 06:45 reiveune salut Oak 06:45 Oak hello reiveune 06:45 reiveune hello 06:19 Oak any idea what could be wrong here. 06:18 pastebot "Oak" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "prove -v t/Perl.t command result for qa-tools" (345 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/420 06:02 Oak :D 06:02 magnuse hehe 06:02 magnuse \o/ 06:02 Oak \o/ 06:02 magnuse Oak 06:02 Oak magnuse 06:01 * magnuse waves back 06:01 * dcook waves to cait and magnuse 06:00 * magnuse waves 04:14 florent very visible now that errors are made visible :-) 04:14 rangi ah yeah 04:13 florent got it. us date format preference versus 'an other format preference' 04:07 Oak oh, QA passed for Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel. 04:06 Oak :) 04:06 wizzyrea it's all good :) 04:04 * Oak realizes sometimes, he is annoying when trying to understand something. 03:59 Oak ok. cool. And I set the patch status to "failed qa" 03:58 wizzyrea correct 03:58 Oak question: by "attach" you mean I attach the resulting patch? Even though it will have nothing different from your patch EXCEPT what's highlighted here http://i.imgur.com/t9rmNrL.png 03:52 Oak alright. 03:52 aleisha would like to get this passed :) 03:52 aleisha I don't really understand the QA fail though (don't know what it means) so if you can write a follow-up and attach that, that'd be cool! 03:51 Oak :) 03:51 Oak I know! 03:51 Oak hello aleisha :) 03:51 aleisha I wrote that patch 03:51 aleisha Hiya Oak 03:50 wizzyrea and sign off the original, if that makes sense 03:50 wizzyrea if you put a follow up that fixes it, you can leave it needs sign off 03:49 wizzyrea and yeah, say it works ok but fails the tools and give the output 03:49 Oak hmm. 03:49 wizzyrea seems harsh i know 03:49 wizzyrea you can just fail qa there 03:49 Oak or is it #3, up to the sign off person's choice. 03:47 Oak wizzyrea, question: #1 if a patch results in things looking OK, but QA fails then should we just add a comment telling the patch developer that "Patch works OK, but QA fails"? Or #2, is it better/"the-way-to-do-it" to add a comment saying "patch works" and sign off, attach patch file, and THEN, add another comment telling QA fails, and revert the "signed off" to "needs sign off" 03:46 rangi but i'd suspect unlikely 03:46 rangi it is :) 03:44 Oak Yes :) 03:43 florent rangi: is it possible all dates used to test importing borrowers were wrongly formatted? 03:43 wizzyrea :) results are results! 03:36 Oak so that's that. 03:36 Oak Yup. Something causes in patch to fail qa tools. 03:34 Oak alright, new branch, ran qa tools before applying any patch, and all tests PASS. Now I'll apply that patch. 03:33 Oak got it. thank you :) 03:32 wizzyrea I haven't seen anything come through that recently :) 03:32 Oak I'll do git pull on the master again. I did it 15 minutes ago though. 03:32 wizzyrea (before you make a branch for your bug) 03:32 wizzyrea (of course you make sure your master branch is up to date with latest upstream master) 03:31 Oak cool. doing it now. 03:31 wizzyrea and run the tools on that branch 03:31 Oak I can delete the branch, and make a new branch checkout 03:31 wizzyrea apply the patch, test it 03:31 wizzyrea is make a new branch based off of master for the bug 03:31 wizzyrea what I do, and you could do it differently 03:31 wizzyrea it's assuming that what you have applied on is clean 03:30 Oak can I test just that patch specifically? 03:30 wizzyrea your patch that you're testing should be at the tip of your branch 03:30 wizzyrea to be sure though 03:30 Oak i see. 03:30 wizzyrea mmm stuff doens't usually get pushed that causes qa tools failures 03:30 Oak so may be one of the new patches is causing it. 03:29 Oak OKay. There were some changes + DB upgrade on master when I did git pull. 03:28 wizzyrea the test tools are only looking at the difference between the files changed before and after the most recently applied patch 03:28 Oak got it. sure. 03:28 wizzyrea the tools should run on master cleanly 03:27 wizzyrea and mark the one signed off, and leave it "needs sign off" for the follow up 03:27 Oak question: is the FAIl related to the 16263 patch? 03:27 wizzyrea if you want to fix it you could add a follow up 03:24 pastebot "Oak" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "QA Tools Output for Bug 16263" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/419 03:23 Oak it works fine. would you take a look at the qa-tools output... I'm trying to decide whether to sign-off or not. 03:23 wizzyrea a+ 03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Needs Signoff , Making authority tags and subfields actions buttons 03:23 Oak testing one bug right now Bug 16263 03:22 wizzyrea excellent :) 03:22 Oak very cool! 03:22 Oak Hey wizzyrea ! 03:22 wizzyrea how goes the devbox odyssey 03:22 wizzyrea hi oak 03:19 * Oak waves 02:04 rangi is your patch built on top of the other patches? 02:04 florent if you had the time to help, that would be ... safer :-) 02:03 rangi cool :) 02:03 florent rangi: Good afternoon, I might have reached a crossroad making it worth creating a patch. 02:02 dcook What's \G? (of course I'm not in mysql anymore :P) 02:02 wizzyrea i always like the human readable \G 02:01 dcook "\P less" ftw... 02:01 dcook I didn't know that you could add a pager to MySQL... 01:15 drojf anyway, i should go to bed. ;) good night dcook and #koha 01:13 drojf bube is an old german word for boy. it's bub (pronounced like boob) in southern germany, where it is more common in general. and there's bubele (in a lot of different spellings) in yiddish 01:10 dcook I often tell her that she should speak English instead of Australian.. 01:10 dcook I'm so used to my wife saying it 01:10 dcook Yep, haha 01:10 dcook British/Australia, I think? 01:10 drojf the internet says its aus/nz english for baby :D 01:09 drojf is bub an english word? 01:02 dcook Hook it into the WiFi and then it can alert me if I should get up and put more clothes on the bub 01:02 dcook Actually, a Raspberry Pi 3 would be better for that than an Arduino... 01:01 dcook Actually, I think the next project might be building a little device that monitors the climate in the bedroom so I know if baby is too hot or cold.. 01:01 drojf maybe start with the first one ;) 01:01 dcook Also want to get a better graphics card for my work machine, so that I can build some sort of library demo using Unreal Engine 4 :p 01:00 dcook Yeah, I was thinking of building a self-check machine 01:00 dcook hehe 01:00 drojf excellent. build a selfcheck machine while the baby sleeps, train it in all things koha while its awake 00:58 dcook And now I'm waiting for a package of electronic goodies to occupy me for baby's brief naps :p 00:58 dcook Then one of his colleagues gave me some LEDs... 00:58 dcook A colleague gave me an Uno a while back, so I started playing with it a bit 00:58 dcook At this point, I'm trying to do more with Arduinos and such as well... 00:57 dcook hehe 00:55 drojf *on 00:55 drojf om the other hand, i know a lot about that ugly db now ;) 00:55 dcook I don't know how tcohen was a RM with a newborn 00:55 drojf something like that 00:55 dcook Yikes, 3am, eh? 00:54 drojf i'm too awake from gravedigging in old databases for like 12 hours today., but i'm not useful for anything besides talking you inti rpm management :D 00:54 dcook Feels a bit hacky in how I'm using Koha's import system 00:54 dcook Really not overly happy with the OAI work I've done.. 00:54 dcook Or procrastinating adding OAI deletion support.. 00:54 dcook Yeah, the only reason I'm typing right now is because I'm choosing between what I'm doing next today.. 00:53 dcook :( 00:53 drojf but no time to even draw it somewhere 00:53 drojf i actually have several funny ideas for catmandu in kohja 00:53 dcook so great 00:53 drojf that would be great 00:53 drojf yeah i could do a lot of koha stuff if i had another me doing the client stuff 00:53 dcook Actually, I don't know how many new developers have really joined up.. 00:52 drojf hehe 00:52 dcook Where is a new me from 4 years ago? 00:52 drojf i was so close… next time! 00:52 dcook What we need is a new person to sucker into these tasks 00:52 dcook lol 00:52 drojf i know, but that is not what i would tell the soontoberpmmanager 00:52 dcook If only for Z39.50 and SRU 00:51 dcook Well, as rangi pointed out on koha-devel, Zebra will be around for a long while yet I think 00:51 drojf zebra is somethingsomethingdeadhorse soon. lets focus on ES and RPM package managing :P 00:51 dcook Then I would just cry myself to sleep at night :p 00:51 dcook So I would get inundated with people wanting to install Koha on ancient Redhat 00:51 dcook Yeah, and I think there are some differences between Redhat RPMs and SUSE RPMs 00:51 dcook I already get most of the Zebra queries. I don't want all the Zebra queries *and* RPM queries :p 00:50 drojf but i'm not going to learn it… and you are one of the few koha devs using it 00:50 dcook It's so much easier just supporting Debian 00:50 dcook It would make things a lot harder for support though :/ 00:50 drojf i have no idea of rpm, but it would be cool to have it 00:50 dcook If only there were all the time in the world... 00:50 dcook I still want to write Perl bindings for GPGME :p 00:50 dcook lol 00:49 drojf i even misspelled it to trick you into doing it 00:49 drojf damn 00:49 drojf lol 00:49 drojf there is still an open slot for an rmp packaging manager ;) 00:48 dcook Although I don't want to be Koha's RPM package manager :p 00:48 dcook I really should try making RPMs one of these days... 00:48 dcook As I do have one Ubuntu box for Koha 00:48 dcook I've done it a bit with some of the Perl we use that the community doesn't use 00:48 dcook hehe 00:47 drojf nah i build packages of everthing. it#s a debian thing. you should try it :P 00:47 dcook That's what I use here with openSUSE 00:47 dcook cpanm HTTP::OAI@3.28 :) 00:47 drojf ok but then i can try with that and see what happens 00:47 dcook I think CPAN used to have more versions than just 3.28 and 4.03 on it 00:46 dcook drojf: I think it's 3.28 on CPAN, although Debian seems to say they use 3.27 00:46 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 00:46 dcook @later tell eythian you're missed during Australian daylight hours! 00:46 huginn dcook: eythian was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 8 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <eythian> magnuse: it is :) 00:46 dcook @seen eythian 00:46 drojf 3.27 is the last one before that? i thought i had a 3.29 but maybe i'm wrong 00:45 dcook fredericd also had problems with it 00:45 drojf now hat you confirm you had problems with it its time to figure that out+ 00:45 dcook Voila: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=HTTP-OAI 00:44 drojf no but seriously, they are really nice people. and i did not come closer than that version doed not work for me at all 00:44 dcook :) 00:43 drojf i think i did my part in tracking the problem, lets have some free as in free beer user support :P 00:43 dcook For my purposes, I just need to be able to write the XML to disk 00:43 dcook Overall, I'm happy to move to Catmandu::Importer::OAI, if it works 00:43 dcook Sounds good :) 00:43 drojf i'll ask about the oai thingy 00:42 drojf yes 00:42 dcook Oh, there as in the Catmandu folk? 00:42 dcook ? 00:42 drojf i dont they anyone there uses much debian 00:42 dcook 4.03 is coming down the pipes though and I don't think anyone at Debian has fixed it yet 00:41 dcook https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libhttp-oai-perl 00:41 dcook As Debian Jessie uses 3.27 00:41 dcook Ahh right. They probably haven't noticed yet. 00:41 dcook drojf: When you say build, is that from CPAN? 00:40 dcook I wonder what they do for Catamandu::Importer::OAI... 00:40 dcook More accurately, too little money I guess 00:40 dcook Too many projects, too little time 00:39 dcook lol 00:39 dcook The documentation isn't very good, parts of it don't work correctly at all 00:39 drojf there are no buts in koha land. do it now!!1 00:39 dcook I'm not a huge fan of HTTP::OAI in general 00:39 dcook Now... I think about rolling my own implementation or taking over HTTP::OAI, but... 00:38 dcook I started the OAI stuff years ago before 4.03 came out :) 00:38 drojf why did you use it? … 00:38 dcook *sadface* http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/HOCHSTEN/Catmandu-OAI-0.11/lib/Catmandu/Importer/OAI.pm 00:38 dcook Ew... why would they use it.. 00:37 drojf ok. i could not build latest catmandu-oai with 4.x (they use it too, there is no escape), so mabe that is not my fault 00:36 dcook drojf: ^ :) 00:36 dcook 3.28 should be fine 00:36 dcook 4.03 I think is the latest broken version 00:36 dcook So broken 00:36 drojf hi dcook. i remember you had something to say about http::oai being broken, i just dont remember where. (which version is broken would be the interesting part for me) 00:09 dcook Surely a "I really don't want to maintain this anymore" would suffice... 00:08 dcook Their Github shows that they're active, but they ignore anything related to that git repo 00:08 dcook The one I really don't understand is this person: http://search.cpan.org/~aar/Crypt-GCrypt/lib/Crypt/GCrypt.pm 00:07 dcook The maintainer just doesn't seem keen 00:06 dcook rangi: Oh that's neat 00:04 wahanui did you try flushing the cache and deleting wahanui's cookies 00:04 wizzyrea it's weird. 00:04 rangi i reckon the depending on docbook which has no maintainer won't be helping 00:04 wizzyrea should fix that interface. 00:04 rangi https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/idzebra 00:04 wizzyrea yep nw 00:04 drab wizzyrea: yeah, likely, I will confirm tomorrow as the lib guy comes to work. thank you. 00:04 rangi cool 00:02 wizzyrea that does give the 404 00:01 wizzyrea drab, they must have closed the window 00:01 dcook https://github.com/indexdata/idzebra 00:01 dcook They used to have them on indexdata's website and recently migrated them 00:00 dcook They're on Github I believe 00:00 rangi i can never find their vcs repos