Time Nick Message 00:00 rangi you can check the query that is generated on the opac i guess and compare the diff 00:05 bag yeah the fast indexing is awesome pianohacker 00:20 pianohacker hm. 00:20 pianohacker I have no search fields 00:25 pianohacker bag: I have some bugfixes for ES, where do I put them? 00:25 bag rangi ^^^ where do you want them 00:27 wizzyrea he's afk at the mo 00:27 pianohacker no worries, will poke things tomorrow 00:28 pianohacker bye all 00:32 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 00:33 drojf good night 00:33 wahanui I'll be waiting for you to come back, drojf. 00:35 wizzyrea hi oleonard 01:07 oleonard Is there some rule about when a BLOCK / PROCESS pair can and can't be in separate INCLUDE files? 01:07 oleonard I thought I was doing this the same way now in the staff client as it is working in the OPAC, but I keep getting a file error 01:08 oleonard define a BLOCK in the header... PROCESS in the footer. 01:44 rangi @later tell pianohacker you can either put them as patches on that main bug and as they get signed off ill shift them to the branch or you can make new bugs .. wahtever makes more sense to you 01:44 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 02:08 chrisvella Hi. Does anyone know if development has been done to allow commenting on items without a Koha account? i.e. social media integration 02:09 rangi you can allow anonymous comments 02:20 chrisvella cheers rangi 02:21 dcook Has anyone actually tried looking at the results of a search with 10,000+ results? 02:21 dcook I'm on page "200.98" 02:21 dcook No idea what that even means 02:22 dcook Record 7000 is on page 141... 02:22 dcook Record 9001 on page 181.. 02:23 dcook Ahh, I bet it's because I hacked the offset parameter... 02:23 dcook Because Record 10000 is now on page 200.. 02:23 dcook Yep.. if I do offset 9951 instead of 9950, I get page "200.02" 02:24 * Oak waves 02:24 rangi its gotta work it out on the fly, because you can define how many results you want per page 02:24 dcook Can you as a user? 02:24 dcook I didn't see that :S 02:25 dcook I thought that was only a syspref thing 02:25 rangi no, the syspref 02:25 dcook Ahh 02:25 dcook I suppose that's still on the fly enough though, eh? 02:25 rangi yep 02:25 dcook Makes me appreciate persistent environments and configuration files more.. 02:26 dcook Nice for librarians to have flexibility though.. 02:26 dcook I didn't really notice any differences sorting 1000 vs 10000 records.. 02:26 rangi nope thats done in zebra 02:26 dcook page load times were similar, the search was still performed by Zebra in .009 seconds... so I probably wouldn't even notice the memory use 02:26 rangi yep 02:26 dcook Zebra is actually a lot better than we credit it sometimes I think 02:27 rangi i always say that 02:27 rangi we make it do dumb stuff 02:27 dcook We really do 02:28 dcook *sadface* 02:36 dcook Btw, rangi, that "yeah,nah" thing is great 02:57 wizzyrea I can't recall did it get into the "yeah nah yeah" 02:59 wizzyrea hehe no. 02:59 wizzyrea sok. 03:01 dcook "yeah nah yeah" always throws me for a loop! 06:19 * magnuse waves 06:23 Francesca sup 06:23 * cait waves 06:23 cait bbiab 06:23 Joubu hi 06:23 wahanui hi, Joubu 06:24 * magnuse rounds off breakfast with a lovely pain au chocolate from his local bakery 06:27 Francesca yum 06:27 Francesca i love pain au chocolate 06:30 * magnuse too 06:32 drojf mrnng 06:33 magnuse hll, drjf 06:33 drojf h mgns 06:34 drojf i dreamed of letsencrypt renewal. i'm scared now 06:38 magnuse lol 06:38 magnuse rangi++ for signing off the letsencrypt patch 06:38 drojf yeah! 06:38 drojf rangi++ 06:39 magnuse drojf: i have a couple of letsencrypt certs. then i got an email remainder to renew. i renewed, but i got a couple more remainders all the same. has that been your experience too? 06:40 drojf is --onecerttorulethemall a good name for a parameter to have a single cert for all LE-enabled instances? 06:43 Joubu magnuse: got the same 06:55 reiveune hello 06:55 wahanui que tal, reiveune 06:57 magnuse drojf: yes 07:05 marcelr hi #koha 07:11 drojf hi marcelr 07:13 marcelr drojf: I am interested in your letsencrypt patches, but finding sufficient time is as always the problem 07:15 dcook drojf++ 07:15 drojf marcelr: i know that problem very well :/ 07:15 dcook time-- 07:15 drojf time-- 07:16 drojf oh no, now we got even less time 07:16 drojf :P 07:16 drojf hi dcook 07:16 dcook Appreciate your tests on my oai stuff, drojf :) 07:16 dcook also hi :) 07:16 dcook I have more changes coming down the pipe... just need to find time myself! 07:16 marcelr time++ perhaps? 07:16 dcook Balancing projects >_> 07:16 drojf time++ 07:16 dcook marcelr: There's the problem. Too many us of running time-- ;) 07:16 dcook Anyway, got to bolt 07:16 dcook Have a good day, euro-folk :) 07:29 drojf mveron++ 07:29 drojf looks like he signed off on half the stuff that Joubu had in his email 07:32 marcelr mveron++ 07:47 LibraryClaire morning all 08:14 magnuse mveron++ 09:14 eythian wahanui: hello 09:14 wahanui hola, eythian 09:15 magnuse kia ora eythian! 09:34 Francesca hello 09:34 wahanui hola, Francesca 11:49 oleonard Hi #koha 11:49 drojf lousy letsencrypt having several ways to renew now. i hate options 11:49 drojf hi oleonard 11:57 marcelr drojf: what about 500 prefs in Koha? 11:57 drojf marcelr: excellent idea! 11:58 marcelr if it was just an idea.. :) 11:58 cait drojf: pick one? 11:59 drojf cait: one works only with LE packages (and seems better in that case), one works for systems that don't have packages but a manual clone… 12:00 cait manual clone = git or tarball? 12:00 drojf git clone of LE 12:00 drojf koha-wise i am only doing it for packages 12:00 drojf looking into what is needed for others is not a priority 12:03 drojf oh look, a weird data format i have never seen before. nice :) 12:14 oleonard drojf: You should collect weird data formats. What a fun hobby! 12:18 drojf oleonard: indeed! 12:18 cait .) 12:23 * oleonard offers cait an eye patch 12:23 cait thx :) 12:23 cait with the hay fever... not too far off 12:26 oleonard I guess you can't define a T:T BLOCK in one include file and PROCESS it in another include file used by the same template. Too bad. 12:27 oleonard I was hoping to be able to start moving JS to the footer in the staff client without too much disruption 12:30 nengard morning all 12:32 Joubu oleonard: Are you sure? 12:32 Joubu ../includes/auth-finder-search.inc: [% PROCESS 'form-blocks.inc' %] 12:32 tcohen morning 12:32 oleonard Joubu: I didn't work for me. 12:33 oleonard Joubu: In that example form-blocks.inc is an actual file, right? I wanted to be able to define a BLOCK. But I think using an actual file is what I need to do. 12:34 Joubu oleonard: there is a BLOCK defined in form-block.inc 12:36 cait morning nengard and tcohen 12:36 tcohen hi cait 12:36 cait oh oleonard - your coding guideline was approved - but you also got actioned to add it :) 12:36 oleonard cait: I saw that, thanks. You guys are far too trusting :) 12:37 cait probably ) 12:37 nengard ha 12:37 cait but your proposal gave as a note of productivity at this meeting 12:38 oleonard Next time I will propose that we resolve that kittens are cute, just to have something to approve. 12:38 cait sounds good :) 12:38 cait puppies are cute too... 12:40 Joubu #vote no 12:40 cait what kindof person are you? 12:44 Joubu I always vote yes! 12:44 cait so youwanted to vote no once? :) 12:47 Joubu exactly 12:47 cait ok 12:47 Joubu (and I am exhausted to safe kitten all day long) 12:47 cait i understand 12:47 Joubu save 12:48 cait why do they alwaysg et themselves into such trouble? 12:49 Joubu Maybe I have something to do with it... 12:50 Joubu drojf: I will try and QA the LE patches before tomorrow 12:50 Joubu have to run right now 12:50 magnuse drojf++ 12:51 cait bye Joubu 12:51 cait Joubu++ 12:52 drojf Joubu++ thanks! 13:09 oleonard Every time I pull on a string, everything unravels. 13:11 * cait knows the feeling 13:11 cait oleonard: testing your display changes resulted in 2 edifact bug reports 13:11 cait hm 3 actually 13:12 marcelr edifarct 13:16 oleonard "My" new coding guideline provides me with 162 new items on my to-do list. 13:38 cait oleonard: that was... clever? 13:40 oleonard I wonder if there is a way to append the contents of a T:T BLOCK to another 13:41 cait marcelr: lol 13:41 tcohen Joubu: around? 13:42 cait (14:50:23) Joubu: have to run right now 13:49 oleonard ...or maybe a way to define a list with T:T directives which can be output with a FOREACH? 13:55 oleonard_ I guess I could do [% SET foo = foo _ bar %] 13:58 oleonard Ah yes now that oleonard has left I can take his place! 13:59 * oleonard checks oleonard's to-do list and reconsiders his plan 14:08 tcohen oleonard: i think you can do it with perl code? 14:09 tcohen my $vars = { 14:09 tcohen people => [ 'Tom', 'Dick', 'Larry' ], 14:09 tcohen }; 14:09 tcohen http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Variables.html#section_List_References 14:12 oleonard In the template? Even if so, that would feel...wrong. 14:13 oleonard The problem I'm trying to solve: Templates and includes embed multiple <script> blocks wherever they want to. How to "collect" those so that they can be output in the footer? 14:14 oleonard Idea: Set a T:T variable with each <script> block as its value and output those variables at the end of the page. 14:15 oleonard But how to do that for an unknown set of variables unless they are 1) In a list which can be looped over, or 2) All appended together in one variable. 14:26 tcohen paul_p: i'm not sure how to help with that 14:26 tcohen someone from the UNIMARC side of the world should check it 14:26 paul_p hello #koha 14:26 paul_p tcohen ??? 14:26 wahanui tcohen is 122 14:26 oleonard Hi paul_p 14:27 oleonard tcohen: You look great for 122. 14:27 tcohen paul_p: sorry, lacking context 14:27 paul_p tcohen if you're talking about ES & unimarc, yes, probably someone from the unimarc side of the world must test ;-) 14:28 tcohen ok 14:28 tcohen what i see, is that master has the same wrong behaviour than ES 14:28 tcohen just sent you an email 14:28 tcohen someone should check ASAP if master is broken in UNIMARC 14:33 lds hello 14:42 tcohen hi lds 14:42 * oleonard_ wonders what the heck is going on with his connection today 14:43 lds strange error on return.pl : \tmain::__ANON__('Can\\'t bless non-reference value at /home/koha/src/C4/ItemTyp...') called at /home/koha/src/C4/ItemType.pm line 65, referer: http://pro.foo.barr/cgi-bin/koha/circ/returns.pl 14:43 lds hello tcohen 14:44 lds and apache BOOM 500 Error 14:44 lds error after upgrade from 3.18 to 3.22.05 15:05 reiveune bye 15:24 tcohen any UNIMARC user aroudn? 16:11 pianohacker "Template process failed: undef error - round() overflow. Try smaller precision or use Math::BigFloat at /home/feoh3/p/koha/Koha/Number/Price.pm line 44." 16:11 pianohacker what the heeeeeck 16:16 jeff somsone scanned a barcode into a price field? ;-) 16:22 beatsforthemind In the Zebra SRU does anyone know the difference between ‘@attr 1=title test’ and ‘dc.title = test’ ? 16:24 beatsforthemind For forming a query 17:59 oleonard So many JavaScript rabbit holes... 18:03 oleonard Remember back when we didn't have git-bz and we lived like filthy animals? 18:15 drojf oleonard: did i get that right that the new jquery version is needed for a bootstrappy staff client? 18:15 oleonard Yes 18:16 oleonard drojf: Why do you ask? 18:17 drojf i'm just slightly afraid of all that could break :) 18:17 oleonard Which, the jquery upgrade or the bootstrappy staff client? 18:17 drojf the jquery update 18:18 drojf but i would love to see people cataloguing in koha on their smartphones! 18:18 oleonard The jquery migrate plugin seems to do its job very well. That gives us cover while we fix the deprecated code. 18:20 drojf how does it work? does it tell us where to fix stuff or does it fix thngs by itself? (with magic and stuff) 18:22 oleonard it works as a shim to make old code work okay with new jQuery. If you edit the template to use the unminified version of the migrate plugin it will fill your js console with warnings about things you need to fix. 18:23 oleonard Right now the warnings are way too much, because it complains so much about the older version of Bootstrap we use. 18:23 oleonard So there is a lot of noise. 18:24 drojf so we need to upgrade bootstrap so the plugin gives more useful output, but we need to upgrade jquery to upgrade bootstrap? 18:25 * drojf draws a chart 18:25 oleonard 1. Upgrade jquery (and add migrate plugin). 2. Upgrade Bootstrap. 3. Fix jquery upgrade problems. 4. Remove migrate plugin. 18:27 drojf ok i get it now, thanks :) 18:43 oleonard Sometimes I think I want to understand the point of basket groups and then I think I probably have better things to do. 18:45 cait oleonard++ 18:51 drojf "Correctly configure a memcache server and confirm that the memory cache is not initialize." 18:51 drojf how do i do that? 18:52 cait no idea 18:53 drojf ok then it's not me and i'll ask on the bug :) 18:55 oleonard Okay, so I guess I didn't fix everything today. I'll try again tomorrow. 18:56 oleonard If anyone fixes everything first, let me know. 18:56 cait we will 18:56 oleonard Bye #koha 18:56 cait have a nice evening oleonard :) 18:56 drojf i voted yes for oleonard and he did not even fix everything today 18:56 drojf damn 18:56 cait hehe 18:58 pianohacker what did we vote yes to oleonard for? 18:58 pianohacker fix all the buttons? 18:59 cait something about onclick things 18:59 cait not sure 18:59 cait we decided to trust him blindly 18:59 drojf trust him to fix stuff. now!1 18:59 cait drojf: give him another chance tomorrow, will you? :) 19:00 cait pianohacker: i filed more edifact bugs 19:00 drojf hmmmkay 19:00 cait one is evil 19:00 cait actually i am pretty unhappy about that one 19:00 pianohacker yessss 19:00 pianohacker death to onclick 19:00 pianohacker cait: wuzzat 19:01 cait https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7736 19:01 huginn 04Bug 7736: new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality 19:01 cait 16256 19:01 cait try adding a library ean without filling in description 19:02 pianohacker oh, that's a dup I think 19:02 cait and then to edit it 19:02 pianohacker bug 16208 19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16208 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't delete a library EAN if the EAN value is empty 19:02 cait hm shoul dbe linked 19:02 pianohacker been on my list to fix 19:02 cait it was not 19:02 cait please switch to using the id 19:02 cait it's worrysome the way it is 19:05 cait ah 19:05 cait it was depends on but shoudl be blocks 19:14 drojf bugs don't want to be tested, i'll call it a day. good night #koha 20:02 rangi morning 20:12 cait morning 20:21 magnuse night 20:39 barton goodness. 20:43 barton I have a *strange* zebra issue... we just upgraded one of our libraries to 3.22.05.000. After the upgrade, keyword searches containing the letter 'a' (e.g. "Once upon a time", "To kill a mockingbird") stopped returning results. The title searches work. When I turned off QueryStemming, the searches work. I can't replicate the issue on master. 20:44 barton QueryStemming = 0 => keyword search works. 20:47 barton find @attr 4=6 @attr 1=1016 "once upon a time" 20:48 barton gives no results. 20:49 beatsforthemind What does the first ‘@attr 4=6’ mean? 20:49 barton oh, let's see -- I copied that from pianohacker's notes... 20:53 pianohacker word search (same as wrdl) 20:54 beatsforthemind so that whole thing means do a wrdl on everything with "once upon a time†? 20:55 barton right ... in yaz-client. 20:56 beatsforthemind It could look the same in x-pquery in the SRU API? 20:57 barton apparently I need to take up music to understand zebra ... ;-) 21:07 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:07 huginn cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 7.0°C (10:50 PM CEST on April 14, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 21:10 beatsforthemind Is there a way with Zebra to match two different fields with two different strings? 21:14 barton beatsforthemind: like a boolean expression on two search strings? I think *zebra* can do it, but I'm not sure that Search.pm is smart enough to pass that through... but be forewarned that I'm talking with *very* little to back me up there... 21:15 beatsforthemind Yeah, like this field has this word and another field has this word. 21:15 barton beatsforthemind: take a look at http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#ccl.syntax 21:17 beatsforthemind I’ve been staring at that for awhile and I’m still not sure how to do what I want. 21:20 cait you mean something like ti=sth and au=someone 21:20 cait ? 21:21 beatsforthemind Yes 21:21 beatsforthemind I think 21:25 beatsforthemind I’m building a Zebra SRU API URL in PHP 21:25 barton beatsforthemind: try going to the advanced search, and choosing a couple of the pull-downs, then inspect the URL 21:25 barton ah. 21:26 beatsforthemind so I am building the ‘query’ GET variable 21:27 barton right. I'm not sure about SRU.