Time  Nick            Message
23:10 rangi           cool
23:10 florent         I will look into it.
23:07 Francesca       bye cait
23:07 cait            bye all :)
23:07 cait            khall is not around at the moment - i think if it oculd be fixed/rebased that would be nice
23:06 rangi           it might be a simple conflict, or it might be a big one, but I reckon trying to apply them is a good starting point
23:06 rangi           it means one of those patches doesn't apply cleanly on master
23:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , New misc/import_borrowers.pl command line tool
23:05 florent         rangi: sorry to bother you but what does 'patch does not apply' mean? Part of bug 12598 involves migrating all the import code into Koha::Patron::Import, which is my next step
22:47 * Francesca     waves
22:41 rangi           :)
22:41 florent         Indeed. Thank you. I might even figure out what @bad_dates once did. The variable is declared but not - apparently - used. Or it is and I might break something soon.
22:41 rangi           amongst others
22:41 rangi           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=48755&action=diff
22:41 rangi           which has this patch
22:41 huginn          04Bug 12598: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , New misc/import_borrowers.pl command line tool
22:41 rangi           https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12598
22:41 rangi           eg I found
22:38 rangi           it helps spot any patches that are waiting that might be touching the same thing
22:38 rangi           florent: http://splitter.koha-community.org/  <--- this might come in handy too
22:33 cait            so true :)
22:33 florent         cait: me too! We never have enough tests.
22:28 * cait          likes 'many tests' :)
22:26 florent         me too :)
22:26 rangi           sounds good to me
22:25 florent         step 2: isolate some code in an object and write many tests
22:24 florent         so all SQL statements using Koha->schema->connect are already cached
22:24 rangi           right
22:24 florent         and it is not set in Koha::Schema->connect()
22:24 florent         I think so.
22:23 florent         rangi: while I can't find the positive statement about caching, it ...
22:23 rangi           right, so that implies they should all be cached by default eh?
22:23 florent         rangi: based on DBIx::Class documentation, there is a parameter called 'disable_sth_caching' which can be set to 1 to disable SQL statements caching via DBI 'prepare_cached'
21:46 rangi           cya drojf
21:46 drojf           good night #koha
21:46 * drojf         should go to be
21:44 drojf           come on
21:44 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 11.0°C (12:20 AM EEST on April 05, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
21:44 drojf           @wunder thessaloniki
21:44 huginn          drojf: Error: _ssl.c:475: The handshake operation timed out
21:44 drojf           @wunder thessaloniki
21:43 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 14.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on April 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
21:43 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
21:36 huginn          eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 11.9°C (11:30 PM CEST on April 04, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
21:36 eythian         @wunder ams
21:36 eythian         Too hot.
21:36 eythian         *here
21:36 eythian         Though it was like 19 the yesterday.
21:35 drojf           indeed
21:35 eythian         Oh well, it'll be summeryer then anyway.
21:34 drojf           eythian: cool! i won't be able to make amsterdam in april, have to postpone that after kohacon
21:34 eythian         Ah, it is, good.
21:33 eythian         Is Greece shengen?
21:33 cait            almost 10 hours form here i think
21:32 eythian         I'm going to take the train.
21:32 cait            my flight is around 9 or so
21:32 eythian         Cool
21:32 cait            monday, but quite early
21:32 wahanui         You are welcome
21:32 eythian         You?
21:32 cait            ah cool
21:31 eythian         Dunno yet, Saturday or Sunday perhaps.
21:31 cait            eythian: cool, when do you arrive in Berlin?
21:28 cait            we had both at some point - now it's fixed
21:27 cait            :)
21:27 florent         rangi: I was just going to ask. Thank you
21:27 rangi           florent: Koha::Patron (not borrower :)) its borrower on 3.22.x patron on master
21:25 eythian         cait: I'll also get a couple of days around things to sight see
21:22 wizzyrea        that
21:22 wizzyrea        well yes.
21:22 eythian         wizzyrea: the museum is normal, the artist was a bit weird 🙂
21:21 cait            yay:)
21:21 wizzyrea        eythian: that museum looks weird and amazing
21:21 eythian         I think that'll be tomorrow night's project.
21:20 eythian         Now just need to book things.
21:20 eythian         drojf: leave approved for Berlin and Greece.
20:58 drojf           finished for me, there are stil some people moving server stuff around
20:56 cait            meeting finished?
20:55 cait            hi drojf
20:54 drojf           evening
20:44 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7736: (QA followup) Add missing body id and class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e1b0c25cdc9906cc32dbee721236b9d934a19a7>
20:08 ibeardslee      mtj: elves
19:02 Brooke          nutty fudgekins. Email it is
19:02 huginn          Brooke: nengard was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <nengard> bug 16151 reported
19:02 Brooke          @seen nengard
19:00 oleonard        Bye #koha!
18:55 Brooke          o/
17:55 cabillman       oleonard, cait: thanks for your help
17:44 kidclamp        we did recently see a library do that with about 3 million items
17:40 cabillman       if I can figure it out i will certainly open a bug report :)
17:39 cabillman       i have no idea... i got a phone call from a librarian who wasn't sure why all their barcodes were in use
17:39 cait            how did you accidentally add so many items?
17:38 cait            that's also a good idea :)
17:38 cabillman       and then do a full index
17:38 cabillman       cait: i'll wait until the day is over and do a database dump before running the delete
17:38 cabillman       cait: thanks for the info
17:37 cait            or at least reindexing the records you changed - but that might be about all?
17:37 cait            but as i said - full reindex after
17:37 cait            you could try it with a few first
17:37 cait            i think the batch edit works with up to 1000 . but might be mistaken
17:36 cabillman       cait: but they were all created today after 12:00 so i have a sql query to select the items
17:36 cait            that#sa bit much for the tool
17:36 cait            hm ok
17:36 cabillman       cait: there are 114,000 items to delete
17:36 cait            i missed the beginning of the conversation- but why not use the batch delete tool as oleonard suggested?
17:35 wahanui         cait: that doesn't look right
17:35 cait            or change it
17:35 cait            if you delete item data
17:35 cait            you would also have to reindex
17:26 cabillman       quickly looking at the code it looks like it calls _koha_delete_item which just copies the data to deleted items before performing the "delete from" query on the items table
17:19 cabillman       oleonard: so  deleting them from the sql table isn't an option?
17:18 cabillman       there are 400 valid items so deleting that doesn't seem practical
17:17 oleonard        cabillman: I don't know what the practical limit is on the batch item deletion tool, but it works.
17:16 cabillman       oleonard: same biblionumber but it has a number of valid items as well
17:16 oleonard        If so it might be simpler just to delete that record and re-do it.
17:15 oleonard        cabillman: All items on the same record?
16:59 cabillman       I have to research what caused the problem but a librarian was trying to catalog something and koha generated 114,000 items
16:58 cabillman       or should i select the barcodes out and paste them into the batch item deletion  catalog tool?
16:58 cabillman       If I need to delete a ton of items. What would be the best method? Is it safe to just delete them from the items table?
16:33 Joubu           bye #koha!
15:56 drojf           meeting, later #koha
15:48 wahanui         que tal, magnuse
15:48 magnuse         bag: HI
15:39 drojf           :D
15:39 bag             uberROAR!
15:38 drojf           uberbag
15:37 bag             roar!
15:37 pianohacker     the most fearsome of bags
15:36 cait            morning bag
15:33 bag             morning
15:26 Joubu           maybe tcohen already had a look
15:26 pianohacker     okey doke. No rush :)
15:25 Joubu           pianohacker: I am on something else, but will try to have a look of someone confirm and open a bug report
15:23 pianohacker     Joubu: my understanding was that it couldn't, because SetEnvs aren't passed through the reverse-proxy to starman
15:22 Joubu           pianohacker: I though it worked.... it does not? :)
15:20 pianohacker     also hi y'all
15:19 pianohacker     Joubu: *blink* OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_ works under Plack? How?
15:18 cait            thx for the help kidclamp
15:11 cait            i will be stand by for QA
15:11 cait            not opposing that :)
15:11 cait            ok
15:10 Joubu           cait: we may fix it better later, but to make it backportable easily I'd prefer to have a quick&easy patch
15:10 reiveune        bye
15:10 kidclamp        I will SO 15967 if noone beats me to it today
15:10 Joubu           cait: I think my follow-up is ok
15:10 tcohen          it doesn't make any sense not to have it already
15:10 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn
15:10 cait            bug 14598
15:09 tcohen          hey, someone please pass 14598
15:09 cait            we are a bit low on qa people
15:09 cait            i don't want to sign if off currently
15:09 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15967 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Print notices are not generated if the patron cannot be notified
15:09 cait            btw, how should we move on bug 15967 now
15:08 cait            Joubu++
15:08 kidclamp        lots of things joubu :-) general qa and helpfulness
15:07 cait            Joubu: he is going to file lots of bugs for you now ;)
15:07 Joubu           kidclamp: what did I do?
15:07 kidclamp        joubu++
15:07 Joubu           tcohen: see 12357 comment 53
15:07 huginn          kidclamp: downloading the Perl source
15:07 kidclamp        @joubu++
15:07 cait            ccordova: hm not sure because of the spanish, but try turning UseQueryParser OFF if is ON
15:06 tcohen          AWESOME
15:06 tcohen          else return @_
15:06 tcohen          if always_false_statement -> touch it
15:06 Joubu           else return @_ :)
15:06 tcohen          if smth -> return @_
15:06 ccordova        cait :  parameters of search http://snag.gy/HuNDt.jpg
15:06 tcohen          without touching it .-D
15:06 Joubu           tcohen: yes, it's magic
15:06 tcohen          it always returns what was passed
15:05 tcohen          Joubu: have you read it?
15:05 Joubu           tcohen: you don't like useless subroutine?
15:04 Joubu           kidclamp: please open a bug report if it does not
15:04 tcohen          Joubu: charconv is just... useless
15:01 kidclamp        Joubu - with no extra work? I nkow we were hitting some issues trying to implement
14:59 drojf           are these things documented somewhere besides bz and/or rfc in the wiki?
14:58 drojf           thanks Joubu
14:58 Joubu           afaik yes
14:57 cait            so the separate opacs thing shoudl work too?
14:57 cait            Joubu++ thx
14:57 Joubu           cait, drojf: OVERRIDE_SYSPREF_ works under plack
14:54 cait            kidclamp++ thx for commenting
14:52 cait            are you running any local changes?
14:52 cait            ccordova: did you change the search parameters maybe?
14:50 cait            ccordova: i am sorry, i am not sue what would causing this - it's odd
14:48 ccordova        to remove the same thing happens plack
14:46 cait            hm don't see the problem in our 3.20.3 without plack
14:45 cait            http://201.215.95.132/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=espanol%20%23relevance_dsc&offset=5&sort_by=relevance_dsc doesn't
14:45 cait            http://201.215.95.132/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=espanol&offset=5&sort_by=relevance_dsc works but the generated
14:45 cait            shows 10 a page, but only jumps by 5?
14:45 cait            the paging is really odd
14:43 cait            ccordova: hm wild guess... but could you try turning off the did you mean?
14:42 tcohen          something breaking JS?
14:41 cait            it appears twice
14:41 cait            http://201.215.95.132/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=der%20%23relevance_dsc&offset=5&sort_by=relevance_dsc
14:41 cait            hm it looks like there is something odd about the sorting param
14:41 cait            paging seems broken
14:41 wahanui         maybe is a momentaneous error
14:41 cait            tcohen: do you have an idea maybe?
14:40 cait            ccordova: i see what you mean, but not sure what may causing this
14:40 tcohen          yes
14:40 cait            tcohen: around maybe?
14:39 cait            i like the colors :)
14:39 ccordova        Santiago
14:39 cait            where are you from?
14:36 ccordova        sorry for my English :(
14:34 ccordova        http://201.215.95.132/
14:34 ccordova        my opac
14:32 ccordova        *pb = Koha
14:31 ccordova        I have a problem OPAC result, I pb 3.22.5 and plack when conducted a search shows the results but when passing a resulltado page to another page of results shows no result.
14:26 cait            hi ccordova
14:25 ccordova        hi, guys  :-)
14:22 cait            ... i know
14:22 drojf           the real way is to use seperate instances ;)
14:22 cait            and not sure if that works with plack?
14:21 cait            the only way is the apache config things
14:21 cait            drojf: nope i think you are right
14:20 drojf           so to seperate the opacs in one koha instance there are only the env variables (opac_search_limit etc.) and no syspref? or am i missing something? never thought about it before
14:16 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Proposal for a uniform way to send messages to user interface
14:16 tcohen          bug 11904
13:57 cait            maybe reserveforothers has
13:57 cait            hm i think it doesn't have consequences for the opac
13:56 drojf           oh true, pushed to master
13:55 tcohen          isn't singlebranch being deprecated?
13:53 drojf           are there problems regarding independentbranches in OPAC, or only in staff client? does independentbranches touch OPAC at all, or is only singlebranchmode relevant there?
13:35 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Proposal for a uniform way to send messages to user interface
13:35 magnuse         bug 11904
13:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13216 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Signed Off , fix koha-shell to work with git/dev installs
13:30 cait            bug 13216
13:29 cait            also... 11904 in terms of performance would be good
13:29 wahanui         the is, like, not a stop word
13:29 cait            the?
13:29 cait            the is not a stop word
13:29 wahanui         cait: I forgot the
13:29 cait            forget the
13:29 wahanui         oleonard: I forgot ther
13:29 oleonard        wahanui: forget ther
13:29 magnuse         STOP!
13:29 wahanui         the is a stop word
13:29 cait            the?
13:28 wahanui         hmmm... ther is any patche to solve it? or a feature in the queue to make the default value configurable
13:28 oleonard        ther?
13:28 magnuse         nasty xsltses
13:28 wahanui         cait: I forgot there
13:28 cait            forget there?
13:28 wahanui         okay, cait.
13:28 cait            ther are also signed patches for the REST API now
13:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , XSLT display fetches sysprefs for every result processed
13:28 magnuse         bug 15263
13:27 cait            maybe not today, but sometime this week?
13:26 cait            yeah i can try
13:26 cait            tsk :)
13:26 cait            and jonathan too
13:26 tcohen          I'm not sure I can QA it as I signed part of it already
13:26 tcohen          cait: can u take a look at 15263?
13:26 cait            oh
13:25 cait            why the sad face?
13:24 tcohen          :/
13:24 cait            new record?
13:24 cait            wow 160 registrations for kohacon
13:23 magnuse         tcohen++
13:12 tcohen          i'll QA it
13:12 tcohen          i thought itk wasn't available anymore
13:11 drojf           if it fixes unfixable problems :)
13:11 cait            but asking QA, not miracles :)
13:11 cait            dunno :)
13:11 drojf           a magical patch
13:11 cait            there is a patch
13:10 tcohen          cait: that cannot be fixed, unfortunately
13:10 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14633 major, P4, ---, John.Seymour, Signed Off , apache2-mpm-itk depencency makes Koha uninstallable on Debian Stretch
13:10 cait            bug 14633?
13:08 cait            tcohen: do you wnat me to pick something for you? ;)
12:52 tcohen          what exciting stuff will we work on today?
12:46 magnuse         if you say so
12:46 marcelr         hi tcohen
12:43 tcohen          hi #koha, good morning!
12:41 drojf           cait!
12:41 cait            druthb!
12:40 drojf           heh
12:40 wahanui         magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
12:40 drojf           magnuse!
12:40 wahanui         magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
12:40 druthb          magnuse!!
12:40 wahanui         magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
12:40 NateC           magnuse!!
12:39 magnuse         drojf! druthb! NateC! tcohen!
12:34 druthb          :)
12:33 drojf           druthb!
12:33 druthb          cait!
12:33 druthb          drojf!
12:30 drojf           hello again
12:27 * LibraryClaire waves
12:27 cait            morning kidclamp
12:27 kidclamp        morning
12:23 cait            hi oleonard! :)
12:23 oleonard        Hi #koha
11:42 LibraryClaire   hey magnuse :)
11:41 magnuse         howdy LibraryClaire
11:38 wahanui         what's up, LibraryClaire
11:38 LibraryClaire   hello
10:13 Joubu           yep, enjoy :)
10:13 cait            Joubu: will try to ask around, but have to eat some lunch first
10:10 cait            it's the only notice we do that for
10:10 cait            just because the email to the library is kind of a special case
10:10 Joubu           why would it be more granular?
10:10 Joubu           I don't think so, we need the same behaviour for all letters
10:09 cait            keeping it a bit more granular?
10:09 cait            could we patch only the overdues email to the library?
10:09 cait            i am leaving an note on the initial bug
10:08 cait            might also be confusing... but maybe
10:08 Joubu           I am a bit afraid to patch C4::Letters to be honest...
10:08 Joubu           I really think that should be fixed at the DB level (cp email to print if print does not exist)
10:07 Joubu           As always, I have tons of solutions, but never know which one should be picked
10:06 cait            yeah - but the libraries don't look at that
10:06 Joubu           I don't know what I can do more....
10:06 cait            i didn't realize the problem until i tested yesterday
10:06 Joubu           Yes but I have fixed a bug and written a big IMPORTANT NOTE, as you notice
10:06 cait            so we should try to figure this out somehow quickly :(
10:06 cait            so this is already a problem for some libraries - it would definitely be for us
10:05 cait            backported :(
10:05 cait            the problem is ee is that that the change has been backportet
10:05 cait            but i might need to have lunch and think about it more
10:05 Joubu           (and the one which may introduce regressions)
10:05 cait            it woudl make sense to me at first glance...
10:05 Joubu           i.e. at the C4::Letters::GetPreparedLetter? (that's the easy and global solution)
10:04 Joubu           yes but should we do that for any letters?
10:04 cait            or we could clena up the database by adding print templates when they don't exist - but that seems a bit messy
10:03 cait            the easiest would be to say... if no print, try email... if none... error
10:03 cait            it does make sense... the problem is the change in behaviour that is kinda unexpected because undocumented
10:03 cait            IMPORTANT NOTE: This test plan does not take into account the notices generated for the staff ("These messages were not sent directly to the patrons."). However the behavior will also change, the print template will be used in all cases. Is it what we want?
10:03 cait            ah i see
10:01 cait            i think i'd have built in a fallback
10:01 cait            reading
10:01 Joubu           do you agree with 14133: print templates should be used for print notices?
10:00 cait            it's emails that could not be delivered
10:00 cait            it's kind of print/not print...
09:59 cait            i think the email to the library in this case is special
09:59 Joubu           but I think we should force the libraries to define correct templates instead of trying to fix configuration issues in the code
09:59 cait            so it keeps working
09:59 cait            for example we'd have to edit all the notices on update for the libraries... or copy with SQL - if we changed behaviour lease would be an automatic db update i think
09:59 cait            the problem with chaging the behaviour is backwards compatibility
09:58 cait            s
09:58 cait            falling back to sms seems a little odd ye
09:58 Joubu           but I understand what you said, I am not saying we should keep this behavior
09:58 cait            first thing... id' say use print when print is available... fall back to email
09:58 cait            hm
09:58 Joubu           you do not want to generate a sms (so very short) template for printing
09:57 Joubu           which was wrong
09:57 Joubu           before 14133 the email or sms template was used for the fallback print notice
09:57 Joubu           that's a "regression" from 14133, the goal was to use the print template for all print notices
09:57 cait            hm?
09:57 Joubu           but it was a bug actually :p
09:56 cait            sorry for being difficult
09:56 Joubu           ok got it
09:55 cait            from the intended behaviour here - this is a fallback for users without email adresses
09:54 cait            if i check print - i'd sent both to the patron, that's very different
09:54 cait            and not even a print, but an information to the library, that there is an overdue, where the patron could not be informed
09:54 cait            i only want a print, if there is no email
09:54 cait            because i don't want to generate both
09:53 Joubu           it cannot work
09:53 Joubu           you check "print" but do not have it defined
09:53 cait            i disagree
09:53 Joubu           it's a configuration issue :)
09:53 cait            and we don't agree if this is an issue?
09:53 cait            hm ok so you can reproduce
09:53 Joubu           If I remove the print template, the notices for the patrons are not generated and no email for librarians neither
09:51 cait            did the print line get deleted when you emptied your print layout?
09:51 cait            if we require a print template now for this to work, it's a change in behaviour - and i think a problematic one, as you won't notice it for a long time possibly
09:50 cait            select * from message_queue where borrowernumber is null shows a lot of notices to the library - last ones from march
09:49 cait            the table letter
09:49 cait            and that's for holds
09:49 cait            checking letter - i only have 1 print line
09:49 Joubu           the code looks the same between 3.18 and master
09:48 cait            i have plenty... but no mater atm :)
09:48 Joubu           will be hard for me to test, I do not have a valid 3.18 DB
09:48 cait            there is some mismatch/misunderstanding somewhere
09:47 cait            no print template ever added - and the notices to the library are generated
09:47 cait            i am seeing it live in 3.18.x
09:47 cait            yes we did
09:47 Joubu           I don't think we got another behaviour before
09:47 cait            only email and empty print layout...
09:46 cait            i didn't check print
09:46 Joubu           cait: ok back a bit on that: if you check print, you have to have a print template, otherwise you will get a warning when launching the overdue_notices script
09:27 cait            does it work when you empty out your print template?
09:27 cait            I don't have access to that installation from here - so can only do more tests tonight
09:26 cait            can only say that it didn't happen for me
09:17 Joubu           cait: with 15967 the email for the library should still be generated if the print templates are not defined for a given overdue notice
09:01 LibraryClaire   back in a bit'
08:59 drojf           hi cait. that was fast
08:59 drojf           morning #koha
08:59 cait            hi drojf
08:54 cait            with a print template, if it works, we got at least a first work around
08:54 cait            i have switched it to signed off already
08:53 cait            makes sense
08:53 Joubu           cait: I will confirm that, but it should be done on another bug reporgt
08:37 cait            but ithink they used to be generated - there was no print template added by default when we started I thnk
08:36 cait            Joubu: that's exactly what i saw
08:36 cait            aha!
08:13 Joubu           and the notices are not generated
08:12 Joubu           and I don't get the notices are not generated
08:12 Joubu           No circulation ODUE letter transported by print at C4/Letters.pm line 637.
08:12 Joubu           If I remove the contain of the print template, I get
08:11 Joubu           <<borrowers.cardnumber>>:<<borrowers.firstname>> <borrowers.surname>>:<<borrowers.email>>:<<items.barcode>>"
08:11 Joubu           and print is "cardnumber:patron:email:item
08:11 cait            that has only email i think?
08:11 Joubu           for the email
08:10 Joubu           The default ODUE
08:08 cait            which have you set?
08:08 cait            Joubu: what does your overdue template look like?
08:08 Joubu           :d
08:07 * ashimema      hands Joubu a bigger stick
08:07 Joubu           cait: so maybe we have another bug related to the feedback template to use
08:07 cait            if the date was wrong, adding the email address shouldn't have generated a notice either
08:06 cait            and no idea why that would be
08:06 cait            i didn't get either
08:06 Joubu           the print is sent even without the patch
08:05 Joubu           not the print generated for the patrons
08:05 Joubu           the patch should fix the email for the library
08:05 Joubu           cait: added a note
08:05 cait            can you reproduce the problem without the patch?
08:04 cait            and an entry with no borrowernumber witht he email for the library
08:04 cait            generated a print entry in message queue
08:04 cait            it hink what it used to do was 2 things
07:56 Joubu           an email notice is required for a patron without email address and a print notice is generated
07:56 Joubu           I don't understand, I cannot recreate the bug on master.........
07:55 Joubu           cait: I don't remember, but I though email was the fallback
07:55 * magnuse       waves
07:54 cait            lol
07:54 * ashimema      runs away before he gets roped into the self-flagellation too
07:53 cait            thought there used to be one :)
07:53 cait            shoudl there be a fallback or is it my fault?
07:52 Joubu           ha, yes
07:51 cait            possible i only have an email template, no print template - could that be it?
07:51 cait            something about MTT and print?
07:51 cait            there was a line printed by overdue_notices.pl
07:51 cait            ah, something
07:50 cait            sorry for that :(
07:50 Joubu           starting a week debugging overdue_notices is like self-flagellation
07:50 LibraryClaire   hi ashimema
07:48 cait            morning ashimema :)
07:48 ashimema        morning #koha
07:47 cait            i think it should have created an email to the library and a print notice?
07:47 cait            but without...
07:46 cait            when i entered an e-mail address, all was good
07:46 Joubu           I have only email too
07:46 Joubu           cait: just tested and works for me....
07:46 cait            that bug worries me a great deal
07:46 cait            Joubu: only email
07:35 cait            morning LibraryClaire :)
07:34 LibraryClaire   morning cait :)
07:28 cait            morning #koha
06:58 alex_a          bonjour
06:49 reiveune        salut marcelr Joubu
06:48 marcelr         hi Joubu reiveune
06:48 wahanui         que tal, reiveune
06:48 reiveune        hello
06:48 Joubu           morning
06:39 marcelr         hi #koha
04:38 wizzyrea        yes, how do they work
04:38 mtj             :p
04:38 mtj             ibeardslee: how about magnets?
04:25 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16144 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron search fails when using Korean (pootle/translate error)
04:25 mtj             bug 16144, re: that pootle Q
04:23 ibeardslee      gah .. too much changing thought process mind sentence
04:20 Francesca       lol
04:20 wizzyrea        ibeardslee: ilu
04:20 Francesca       i need to email thatcher about guiitar - i keep forgetting
04:20 wizzyrea        bit*
04:20 mtj             hey #koha...does anyone know what the process is to fix a pootle/translation typo?
04:20 ibeardslee      it's called a calendar, and each time the world spins does a full rotation, we add cross off another day we have done, there are about 30 in a month and if depending where you started, you eventually cycle through 12 of those months to get to April.
04:20 wizzyrea        yeah a b ti
04:20 Francesca       sad
04:19 wizzyrea        not anymore :(
04:19 Francesca       do you have a cat?
04:19 wizzyrea        well, I like them if they are in cages and friendly and not bitey and scrobbling around in my pantry
04:19 wizzyrea        so a caught mouse is always a "good kitty" moment for me
04:19 Francesca       i caught it in a net and let it go outside
04:18 wizzyrea        me personally, I don't like having mice around. :P
04:18 wizzyrea        Francesca: I question your methods, but to each their own. :)
04:18 wizzyrea        I don't know!
04:18 mtj             yeah, april already - how did that happen?!
04:18 Francesca       in this house we rescue mice
04:17 wizzyrea        eh let him eat it :)
04:17 Francesca       hes not happy
04:17 Francesca       I just took a mouse off sirius
04:17 wizzyrea        gosh it seems like ages since I've talked to you
04:17 Francesca       hi mtj
04:17 wizzyrea        hi mtj!
04:17 mtj             hey Francesca, wizzyrea ;0)
04:16 wizzyrea        no asthma or other "oh god I can't breathe" issues.
04:16 wizzyrea        I feel very thankful that I have never had more than a wee bit of allergy sniffles
04:07 Francesca       good description
04:05 wizzyrea        bleh
04:00 Francesca       and bad asthma
03:59 Francesca       worky worky work uni style
03:59 wizzyrea        how about you?
03:58 wizzyrea        not a whole lot really, worky work work work
03:57 Francesca       sup
03:57 wizzyrea        hi Francesca
03:53 wahanui         hola, Francesca
03:53 Francesca       hi