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23:57 wizzyrea rangi++ koha-preferences is kinda win.
23:46 drab thanks
23:45 rangi yes
23:43 drab koha-reset-passwd instancename username <--- this is talking about a borrower, right?
23:43 drab https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#Database-related
23:28 pianohacker rangi: cool, that sounds about right. Thanks for confirming
23:27 rangi yeah it was a joshua thing there were other bits to go with it, basically rewrote /search/ to /cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl .. or something like that, it should probably get ripped out I doubt anyone is using it
23:26 pianohacker rangi: do you have any idea why the strip-empty-params (RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} (.*?)(?:[A-Za-z0-9_-]+)=&(.*) / RewriteRule (.+) $1?%1%2 [N,R,NE]) crept into the apache config?
23:02 drojf good night #koha
22:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15889: LDAP authentication: Only update mapped attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c74678a1d239aaf91906039ccb3db940df4a0b41>
22:01 drojf i have seen one with only hashes a while ago
22:01 eythian it's slightly terrifying, albeit convenient.
21:58 cait same here
21:58 eythian In all the migrations I've done, I never saw one system (IIRC) that didn't have plaintext passwords.
21:57 eythian so, little call for it.
21:57 eythian it's rare to find things that will export with the same parameters that Koha requires, I expect.
21:54 drojf any reason not to have a field for pw hash in the importer? (besides 'nobody did it')?
21:53 eythian though you'd have to directly insert them, the importer expects plaintext
21:53 eythian hashes should be backwards compatible
21:52 drab was about to ask that since that's what I got
21:52 drojf i was wondering, what happens if i got password hashes only in an old database and want to import patrons?
21:50 drab oh, I'll check that out, thanks
21:50 wizzyrea tools -> Import patrons
21:50 wizzyrea to import patrons
21:50 wizzyrea there's a tool
21:50 drab or are there other relationshisp I should be aware of that need to match or stuff won't work?
21:50 drab also, a related but slight diff question: I'm trying to help them bulk add a bunch of kids to the borrowers/patrons, can I just write something up that does inserts into the borrowers table?
21:48 drab is there a way I can enable debugging somehow to see what's going on when I try to login?
21:46 drab wizzyrea: 3.12 iirc
21:45 bag tomorrow hopefully tomorrow I can get him to test the auths again
21:45 bag nick is back - so I’m asking him to test but he’s busy
21:45 bag just rebased
21:45 drojf no pressure, just asking :P
21:45 drojf bag: did anything happen on the authorities front? i did not spend much time on the bug tracker but i think i would have gotten an email if something had happened
21:45 cait cardnumber an dpassword should work too
21:44 drab does the opac check for something else besides usedid/password in the borrowers table?
21:44 wizzyrea drab: what version did you come from?
21:44 * drojf wants to make another snarky ebsco remark before bed
21:44 drab however a newly create used can log into both places just fine
21:43 drojf or maybe they are partners, who knows
21:43 drab but I thought there's only one user so don't understand why login would succeed in one place and fail in the other
21:43 wizzyrea drab: are you running any translations?
21:43 drab cait: ^^
21:43 cait can only patrons not log in or staff too?
21:43 drab so for some reason a user in the borrowers table can log into the sco for self checkout, but not in the opac
21:43 bag drojf++
21:43 drojf true. once we are full ebsco they will be clients
21:43 wizzyrea but drab, you are right
21:43 cait drab: what is the problem they experience?
21:43 bag just kidding drojf
21:42 wizzyrea the dialect thing is a symptom of the "what do we call the people who use the library" argument
21:42 bag heh
21:42 drab engrish pls
21:42 wizzyrea english* (geez)
21:42 wizzyrea drojf: I'd argue that this problem is well beyond inglish
21:42 * bag thinks drojf authorites are too authoritive
21:42 cait drab: passwords are stored encrypted
21:42 drab heh
21:41 wizzyrea only more contentious :)
21:41 drojf and which dialect of english do we use in koha
21:41 drab sounds like "how should we name our servers"
21:41 wizzyrea "what do we call the people who use the library"
21:41 drab lol, ok, I won't go there then :)
21:41 drojf could another robot make it work before?
21:41 wizzyrea you have come across one of the major arguments in librarydom
21:41 bag could one of those robots sign off on ES too?
21:41 drab and on the web they are called patrons, ie there's no "borrowers" screen
21:41 wizzyrea drab ^
21:40 wizzyrea yep
21:40 wizzyrea I was hoping to find the article that was about their wedding
21:40 drab as far as I can tell all users seem to be in the "borrowers" table. is that correct?
21:40 wizzyrea ^ that's who I was thinking of
21:40 bag melia and sam had those at their wedding
21:40 drab I've tried to look at the databse and do some debugging, but I'm not a perl guy and the db is pretty complicated
21:40 drab hi, so I managed to rescue this failed old koha instance and restore the db on a latest install however they are having troubles with users not being able to login into the opac
21:40 wizzyrea er not the best article
21:40 wizzyrea that's the best article
21:40 drojf thessaloniki invaded by video conference alien things
21:39 drojf we could make them start pub fights and run through the city
21:39 wizzyrea http://perezhilton.com/2014-01-28-wedding-robots-livestream-officiate-bare-ring
21:39 cait i know it's not the same... but it would be kinda cool :)
21:38 drojf a video conferencing segway?
21:38 wizzyrea this kind of thing
21:38 wizzyrea http://www.smith.edu/news/robot-on-campus/
21:37 drojf bots
21:37 drojf haha ok so we just stay at home/work on irc as usual but have boths gather at a conference? :D
21:37 wizzyrea ^
21:37 cait remote controlled moving around with camera on top?
21:36 cait i was thinking of a robot conference participant
21:36 wizzyrea I have not seen those ones.
21:36 drojf *almost
21:36 drojf alomst worked
21:36 drojf damn
21:36 drojf i will just assume you are not talking about sex toys and try not to ask about it
21:35 wizzyrea haha I've seen those
21:34 cait i have no idea what they are called
21:34 drojf ?
21:32 cait maybe we need to get some of tohse remote robot things...
21:28 wizzyrea there's this little problem of having the funds to do so (and other varying issues)
21:28 wizzyrea Believe me when I say I'd like to
21:27 drojf you should come :)
21:22 * wizzyrea is a bit jealous of all of you being able to get together
21:13 eythian haha :)
21:13 eythian cait: count me in :)
21:13 cait oh gr.
21:13 cait hm?
21:13 drojf cait brings all the sights to berlin. and takes them back home when she leaves ;)
21:12 cait rangi: yeah - me too
21:12 cait eythian: i am in berlin monday... if you want to do sight seeing:)
21:11 eythian ?
21:11 eythian Or even go on the Saturday.
21:11 eythian I might do that.
21:11 eythian y'know, I could just go on the Sunday, take one more day of leave, but have two full free days there.
21:11 drojf rangi: i was wondering that too
21:09 eythian I'm just planning it to get leave etc.
21:08 rangi i wonder what the best wanna-be award is?
21:08 eythian I can leave Centraal at 09:00 and arrive around 17:00, those are pretty reasonable times.
21:01 drojf buying train tickets is like a lottery these days
21:00 drojf don't change or cancel. or book two 39€ tickets and use one, it's cheaper than the other one
20:57 eythian €39 for a train, €81 if I want one I can change or cancel. That seems like an excessive markup.
20:49 eythian I think it was just slow, it got there in the end
20:49 wizzyrea teehee
20:48 drojf all the important stuff is there!
20:47 eythian *detailed
20:47 eythian https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/In9LhDHg1jRhSJa <-- I like the map, it's so ... details
20:46 drojf we have a lot of community building stuff this kohacon
20:42 cait closer than from here :)
20:42 drojf if you stay where rangi stays, you can take a direct bus (M41)
20:42 eythian looks like about 6 hours by train, that's not bad.
20:42 eythian OK
20:41 drojf yes. you will usually have spandau as an alternative, that is far away from everything, don't get off there
20:40 eythian I presume everything transfers from there anyway?
20:40 eythian drojf: what's the best station to come into if I train? Berlin Hbf?
20:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14257: Follow-up - Add documentation, fix typo, fix test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a605225cc3116f5a244303106567340a8d1e1b0> / Bug 14257 - Add show_attributes to GetPatronInfo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ead5b9c0e2d7030abfcef27aa8fb8fabf012f5b2> / Bug 14257 - Add show_attributes to GetPatronInfo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
20:39 huginn 04Bug 16146: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , [3.22] ACQ: Previewed records in Z39.50 search results are wrong
20:39 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
20:39 bag @later tell jajm - I think this one is for you -> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16146
20:36 rangi i get into berlin at 6pm on 24/5
20:35 rangi yup
20:35 eythian jesus those flight prices are cheap, I forget how things are here.
20:35 drojf yup
20:34 eythian OK, so Berlin is, what, a 10 minute bike from here?
20:34 eythian tq
20:33 drojf eythian: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackfest_2016
20:33 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackfest_2016
20:33 eythian nice
20:33 eythian drojf: where is your info on your hackfest thing?
20:33 rangi eythian: also this is close to the hotel and university in greece http://thehoppypub.gr/
20:32 drojf bad luck, ABC hotel for having fake free wifi, or we would all have ended up at your place
20:31 rangi eythian: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon_2016:_Who_is_arriving_when
20:31 drojf the should give me the room for free for being the first one booking and now everybody goes there
20:31 eythian oh, I was talking to someone who is Greek and has been recommending Koha to libraries there. He might come too.
20:31 wahanui yeah that is golded jcamins
20:31 drojf yeah that
20:31 drojf eythian: hotel… something
20:31 rangi eythian: hotel olympia
20:31 cait i will try - but you are the host in berlin, so you will have to take care i don't miss it, right?
20:31 drojf they are cheap too :P
20:31 eythian where are people staying in Thessaloniki?
20:31 wizzyrea thumbs up
20:30 rangi mine is berlin air
20:30 drojf what is it? easyjet? they are cheap, but the planes fly, at least they did when i last used them
20:30 wizzyrea none of these sound like great doubts to have about an airline...
20:29 wizzyrea doubtful as in "it might fall out of the sky" or "it might fly to the wrong airport" or "it may not be on time"
20:29 drojf cait: don't miss the plane then please
20:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15931: Replace relative path with /cgi-bin/koha/ <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6167cf012825fc51c5dc61c4c7224774a048d4ac> / Bug 15931: Removing link to records if authority is not used by any records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19f9673a3b7343992822c033e6699e8ff531fd20>
20:29 cait drojf: don't fly without me ok?
20:29 wizzyrea O.O
20:29 * cait is kind of doubtful about the ariline
20:29 cait i really hope we will make it
20:29 rangi hehe
20:29 rangi i figure ill just stay at the pub until 4
20:29 cait you are lucky :)
20:29 drojf or get the 16 one with the normal people not getting up at 4 at night :P
20:28 cait oh... to later
20:28 rangi yeah it changed
20:28 cait rangi: wasn't it 6?
20:28 rangi hehe
20:28 eythian what a terrible sounding idea
20:28 eythian haha
20:28 rangi :)
20:28 rangi then i wont be the only one on it
20:28 drojf :)
20:28 rangi get the 6.35am one ..
20:28 eythian even though there's a plane straight from here too, I'm sure :)
20:28 drojf it's the best option for everyone!
20:28 eythian drojf: I'm seriously considering that
20:27 drojf eythian: if you come to berlin, there is a plane straight to thessaloniki ;)
20:27 cait hehe
20:27 eythian oh, I need to work out getting there
20:27 drojf i'm a cool boss
20:26 drojf i would have paid my trip anyway :)
20:26 cait now you forced yourself... to pay your trip?
20:26 rangi but im hoping they will talk about Koha more than they talk about their stuff
20:26 drojf yes but that was forced so university would pay my trip ;)
20:26 rangi the other 2 are straight sales
20:26 cait drojf: you already had a kohacon presentation
20:25 bag my abstract - “don’t let me ramble - feed me coffeeâ€
20:25 cait he recordedthesessions :)
20:25 rangi and the plugin is gplv3 :)
20:25 rangi he has been to kohacon in argentina already too
20:25 drojf anyway i got a slot so it's gonna be the best kohacon ever. lol
20:25 * cait should have send an abstract
20:25 rangi alvets talk will be good
20:25 rangi but someone else pulled out
20:25 rangi yeah, it was going to be 2
20:24 drojf ebsco plugin, ebsco derheißescheiß microservices and somethingsomething a division of ebsco
20:23 cait i was thinkingonly 2
20:23 drojf maybe there is more
20:23 drojf 3 that are labelled ebsco
20:23 wahanui 3 is not.
20:23 cait oh 3?
20:22 drojf so we got only 3 ebsco talks at kohacon :P
20:22 drojf evening
20:10 rangi its on now
20:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16058: Delete individual news item from koha-news.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09c7a9c3af3ac7cde90e6e055fe2a233d71466e9>
20:09 rangi keep falling off
20:09 ibeardslee ahh
20:09 eythian ibeardslee: rangi isn't there
20:08 ibeardslee .. also #equifoss instead of #koha?
20:08 eythian OK
20:08 ibeardslee yes I would have mentioned
20:08 eythian yes to what?
20:08 ibeardslee yes
20:07 * ibeardslee turns gps on tablet on
20:07 eythian (I guess not, or you would have mentioned)
20:07 eythian hmm, did you get a notification 15 or so minutes ago?
20:07 ibeardslee please hold .. .. hmm I did (depends on location).
20:06 eythian ibeardslee: turn it on too for a bit please :)
20:06 eythian you're both terrible people.
20:06 ibeardslee no sorry don't have the notifications on
20:06 eythian rangi: can you turn it on? I want to test some stuff that may depend on location.
19:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBrev Bug 16070 - Empty (undef) system preferences may cause some issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79fa6ec68a45a7112cbae763458381f9c53835c6> / Bug 16070: Add atomic update file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a987ab5f0da632fe0730a8029c07a403fa135ad> / Bug 16070: Default value for sysprefs should be an empty string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
19:59 eythian ibeardslee: how about you?
19:58 eythian damn
19:58 rangi hmm i dont have them turned on at the moment
19:57 eythian rangi: do you have hashigo app notifications on, and did you just get one?
19:55 cait yeah, best place in town :)
19:55 aleisha_ yum!
19:51 cait sushi for dinner :D
19:51 * cait waves
19:48 rangi sweet as
19:48 aleisha_ wfh today
19:48 aleisha_ hi rangi
19:47 rangi hey aleisha_
19:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16092: Fix error dialog and introduce the Font Awesome icons when delete a branc... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d995613eaf22647aea860b411d1d0b10ddaf9149> / Bug 16152: Rename column to Actions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c9ce8ea51bf89970ce8ff33d25d5122392ab2b6> / Bug 16153: Adding "actions" class to Label Creator table actions so the buttons... <h
18:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16163: Show message if there are no dictionary definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9548f14236a51b8b6e6d80d8a4547876cc2ead96> / Bug 11498 - Prevent bypassing sco timeout with print dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f8037f642913d94ebec70413c6fd8cadfdf938d> / Bug 13132: Add confirm dialog for deleting reports from the reports toolbar <http://gi
18:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15323: Use fixtures for the active currency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a14e22d59343475ed6970b82b474a80e43d8e29>
18:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: fixing DBrev Bug 16103 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7661629e9804cb3b0c1249a80bd5b797da2a0482>
17:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15793 - UX of circulation patron search with long lists of returned borrowers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ebad0049311e94ae7e2466a17c1e88b8adc3c34> / Update Schema Bug 16004 - Replace items.new with items.new_status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ba7039c33c1c8f3c46a765ab0f535251afd977f> / DBrev Bug 16004 - Replace items.new with items.new_status <ht
17:16 gaetan_B bye
16:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16172: fix OAI Server tests broken by bug 15946 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5f7f4072454e7c816d901de341bcc29401122ae>
15:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Updating the Schema files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b56520fa0db3285f3c44da2cb7f4eb7f9b2f836f> / DBrev updates for Bug 16007 - Correction of 'Remove columns branchcode, <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1f4707165f30b6afd2d545d32b69322cb5399f2> / Bug 16007: Simplify the DB entry <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a012f863ec56
15:37 pianohacker HI CAIT
15:26 cait hi :)
15:26 cait oups
15:26 cait HI
15:19 pianohacker hi
15:16 reiveune bye
14:57 huginn drojf: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
14:57 drojf @wunder when is kohacon starting, are we there yet?
14:57 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 20.0°C (5:50 PM EEST on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
14:57 drojf @wunder thessaloniki
14:53 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 11.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
14:53 tcohen @wunder berlin, germany
14:52 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 27.6°C (11:52 AM ART on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
14:52 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
14:52 kidclamp hi tcohen
14:52 tcohen hi kidclamp
14:49 kidclamp morning
14:41 drojf huh?
14:41 huginn drojf: Error: _ssl.c:475: The handshake operation timed out
14:41 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
14:35 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:35 tcohen @later tell Joubu I'm not sure Kyle's patch is wrong (15599) because we are explicitly testing the use case in which it falls back to biblio-level itype. In other tests, we should build test data properly, not on this one, because we are explicitly testing a bad scenario
14:21 tcohen Joubu:
14:21 Joubu see you #koha!
14:17 Joubu tcohen: 14598#c63 is "We need to fix bug 15599 first."
14:17 tcohen fair enough
14:16 tcohen Joubu: oh, I wasn't aware of it
14:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15599 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Unit tests output warnings
14:15 Joubu tcohen: bug 15599
14:13 tcohen probably not my tests :-P
14:13 tcohen really ? I didn't notice
14:12 Joubu tcohen: it's stuck! because of the tests failing
14:12 tcohen hahaha
14:12 tcohen Joubu: don't fail it! I even took the time to have regression tests for it!
14:10 cait tried to catch up, but too late
14:10 cait Joubu: congrats ;)
14:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14598 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , itemtype is not set on statistics by C4::Circulation::AddReturn
14:10 cait bug 14598
14:09 * tcohen fears for 14598
14:08 tcohen noooooo
14:04 Joubu will have to FQA now!! *gniarkgniarkgniark*
14:04 Joubu cannot QA anything before tomorrow, I have reach the 100PQA for this month
14:02 tcohen consistency + avoid the issue
14:02 tcohen using the Plack::Middleware::Log4perl middleware
14:01 tcohen drojf: we should be relying on Koha::Log4Perl instead, for instance
14:01 bag ah just missed marcel
14:00 huginn 04Bug 16155: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Composite keys in TestBuilder and more
14:00 bag very cool https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16155
14:00 drojf i mean, why bother thinking of something else if this way works
13:59 tcohen i think it is once a week
13:59 drojf what is the harm in restarting the service once a day?
13:58 bag hmm yeah dcook did say something about that
13:58 tcohen (and apache)
13:58 Joubu tcohen: could you please open a bug report?
13:58 tcohen (we do the same for the zebra server)
13:58 tcohen this is a workaround only
13:58 tcohen to avoid it
13:57 tcohen we could just find another way
13:57 tcohen starman author/maintainer says yes
13:57 tcohen drojf: it is straightforward, discussion is if we need to take the service down during logrotate
13:57 drojf tcohen: ok. if i can't get that, i will just test for regression. the patch is small, so i think to verify that plack works after logrotate should be ok
13:56 tcohen (i recall he wrote to the dev list about it)
13:56 tcohen Joubu: conclusion is that dcook was right about HTTP::OAI 4.03 being a threat for us
13:55 tcohen in both OPAC and Intranet
13:55 tcohen Internal server errror
13:55 tcohen drojf: browser
13:55 Joubu tcohen: so.... the conclusion is that your bug fix can go for now
13:55 drojf tcohen: where did you get the errors for 16138? in the browser or some log file?
13:54 tcohen he managed to make the code unreadable
13:53 tcohen and http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/TIMBRODY/HTTP-OAI-4.03/lib/HTTP/OAI/Verb.pm
13:53 Joubu there*
13:53 tcohen http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/TIMBRODY/HTTP-OAI-4.03/lib/HTTP/OAI/Response.pm
13:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16140 enhancement, P2, ---, jweaver, In Discussion , Only clear L1 cache when needed
13:53 Joubu drojf: they are some wild benchmarks on bug 16140
13:53 tcohen but HTTP::OAI::Verb, ultimately returns an HTTP::OAI::Response object, that *still* implements xslt
13:52 tcohen Joubu: in theory it should still work, because he made verbs inherit HTTP::OAI::Verb instead of HTTP::OAI::Response
13:48 tcohen Joubu: damn, he refactored...
13:48 drojf i have to rebenchmark it on the raspi ;)
13:48 drojf yeah awesome, huge improvement! :)
13:48 tcohen http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/TIMBRODY/HTTP-OAI-3.28/lib/HTTP/OAI/Identify.pm
13:48 tcohen Joubu: @ISA = qw( HTTP::OAI::Response );
13:46 bag more to come
13:46 tcohen Joubu: all HTTP::OAI::{Verb} modules must be based on HTTP::OAI::Repository
13:46 bag a few drojf
13:46 Joubu tcohen: yes, and? HTTP::OAI::Repository does not have a ->xslt whatever the version
13:46 Joubu drojf: 11998
13:45 tcohen drojf: yes!
13:45 tcohen use base ("HTTP::OAI::Repository");
13:45 Joubu it works on jessie, but I don't understand why
13:45 drojf oh, koha 3.22.5 with plack feels much faster than what i remember from 3.22.0 with plack. did it get some of the cache fixes already?
13:44 Joubu won't be a HTTP::OAI::Response but a Koha::OAI::Server::Repository, based on HTTP::OAI::Repository
13:43 Joubu tcohen: yes but 135 $response = $class->new($self, %attr);
13:42 tcohen http://search.cpan.org/~timbrody/HTTP-OAI-3.28/lib/HTTP/OAI/Response.pm
13:39 tcohen *hm, he discovered it*
13:39 Joubu tcohen: where is ->xslt?? http://search.cpan.org/~timbrody/HTTP-OAI-3.28/lib/HTTP/OAI/Repository.pm
13:38 * tcohen goes write a patch so the indexer in ON by default
13:37 drojf indeed
13:37 tcohen and certaintly koha-indexer!
13:36 drojf tcohen: you should add koha-plack to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages
13:35 * Joubu is launching kohadevbox :)
13:35 tcohen so I'm now worried
13:35 tcohen Joubu: when I added the ->xslt call (unrelated to this bug) I was looking at the 4.03 docs
13:35 Joubu erk
13:35 Joubu :)
13:35 Joubu I have upgraded some weeks ago, forgot that
13:35 drojf 3.27-1
13:35 Joubu sorry, testing
13:35 drojf fwiw, i got 3.271 on jessie too
13:34 tcohen 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
13:34 tcohen 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
13:34 tcohen *** 3.27-1 0
13:34 tcohen Version table:
13:34 tcohen Candidate: 3.27-1
13:34 tcohen Installed: 3.27-1
13:34 tcohen libhttp-oai-perl:
13:34 tcohen vagrant@kohadevbox:~$ apt-cache policy libhttp-oai-perl
13:33 * tcohen is launching kohadevbox:ansible
13:32 Joubu which version are you using?
13:32 Joubu yes
13:32 tcohen debian jessie?
13:32 Joubu 4.03
13:31 Joubu installed like sudo apt-get install libhttp-oai-perl
13:31 tcohen or just cpanm-ed the latest version?
13:30 tcohen installed like sudo apt-get install koha-perldeps?
13:29 Joubu I have just installed it
13:29 Joubu no
13:29 tcohen HTTP::OAI version missmatch?
13:29 tcohen perl koha_perl_deps.pl
13:29 drojf i'll have to make a price list for every single part of koha. wanna rent the patron module for a month? i'll give you a discount on special attribute fields
13:29 Joubu I guess I have missed something
13:28 Joubu with and without the patch
13:28 Joubu tcohen: I get t/db_dependent/OAI/Server.t .. 1/13 Can't locate object method "xslt" via package "Koha::OAI::Server::ListMetadataFormats" at Koha/OAI/Server/Repository.pm line 139.
13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16172 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , OAI Server tests broken by bug 15946
13:28 Joubu tcohen: QAing bug 16172
13:28 tcohen monolitic rules :-P
13:28 drojf exciting, isn't it?
13:27 magnuse the disintegration of the ils...
13:21 drojf probably not, now that people will switch to "microservices" and using only bits and pieces of koha they will never actually see ;)
13:21 tcohen i have a use case for exotic barcode calculation, that should be handled using a plugin, instead of the current "drop a .pl file somewhere" approach
13:20 bag which I’m betting on will not happen :) “tons of pluginsâ€
13:20 drojf i'll postpone the problem until we have a gazillion of plugins and people start to annoy me :P
13:19 bag which is what we are all doing all the time ;)
13:19 drojf but that means spending time testing it
13:19 bag we could always say - we can’t repeat it :)
13:18 bag not nessecary - I think the first thing is understanding the problem - if you can’t repeat it - then you don’t know the problem
13:18 drojf or at least i hope so. heh
13:18 drojf if it's a client i know what they are running :P
13:18 drojf if a user says "i have koha 16.05 and x is broken", i would have to know if that is a koha problem or maybe actually an error in a plugin
13:17 drojf i mean something like free community support on the mailing list
13:17 drojf they could change whatever they like, roight?
13:17 bag the definition of user support could vary ;)
13:16 drojf or are they restricted from doing certain things in koha?
13:16 drojf how would i know if an error is a bug in koha or in a plugin
13:15 drojf still for user support one has to know what is running in a users koha?
13:15 bag :P
13:15 bag like - DELETE * from biblios;
13:14 drojf i like wild :D
13:14 bag plugins give you the flexibility to do something wild that wouldn’t really be useful wide spread
13:13 bag I don’t think we should have “community supported†plugins - if it’s some thing the community wants it should be in koha proper
13:13 drojf i have not really worked with koha plugins yet, sorry if the questions are stupid ;)
13:12 drojf hi francharb
13:12 drojf we will probably need a list of installed plugins for user support questions then? or do we have that already, on the about page or somewhere?
13:11 francharb Hello all
13:11 tcohen bag: i was thinking the way wordpress does it, users tend to rank plugins also
13:10 tcohen drojf: the latter. I set a VM with 3.22+plack, it started failing at some point, and i was able to reproduce it by running logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf
13:09 bag keyword “should"
13:09 drojf tcohen: does the logrotate problem appear every time, or do i have to be lucky to reproduce it?
13:09 bag ideally yes
13:09 tcohen plugins should have a "version compatibility check" and maintainers should care to maintain that supported versions list
13:08 drojf bag: what i think might possibly happen is that with more plugins we will have more abandoned plugins that work on one version and not on another, but people asking about it on koha lists, because they think it is a part of koha
13:08 benjamin ah. so noone is using it yet, then, I suppose... :(
13:07 tcohen s/in/under/
13:07 tcohen google for running mojolicious stuff in plack .-D
13:07 bag if it works for you then it works for you drojf :)
13:06 benjamin tcohen: perhaps thats what I'm struggling with? what's the easiest way to use api under plack?
13:06 drojf like, maintain it
13:06 drojf bag: on the other hand, what if i come up with a plugin idea, release it but don't have resources to work on it
13:06 bag drojf: I think that is the bueaty of the plugins :)
13:05 tcohen but is worth making work ASAP so endpoints start to grow!
13:05 tcohen i tried for the 3.22 release and didn't succeed the first day i tried, so i moved on to other stuff
13:05 drojf bag: that would spare us the trouble of deciding which plugins should be "community supported" ;)
13:05 tcohen it is not clear to me that we should be using the CGI compatibility mode in plack for the API
13:04 Joubu tcohen: that's what he did :)
13:04 tcohen benjamin: you should ask jajm for help regarding that
13:04 tcohen drojf: cool
13:04 Joubu benjamin: etc/koha-httpd.conf 253 # Uncomment this VirtualHost to enable API access through
13:03 bag I thought it should be handled by the plugin builder
13:03 Joubu benjamin: debian/templates/apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf: ProxyPass+ProxyPassReverse
13:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16138 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Restart plack when rotating logfiles
13:03 drojf hi tcohen. building a package for bug 16138, may have questions when testing. does the problem appear every time?
13:02 drojf while reading about the bywater coverflow plugin, i wonder if we want to have something like community supported plugins (that have their bugs dealt with via the koha bugzilla) or if that should in general be handled by the provider of the plugin
13:02 tcohen bonjour
13:01 benjamin joubu: meaning the mod_rewrite part with api? if so, yes.
12:58 Joubu benjamin: Have you uncommented the last part of the httpd?
12:54 benjamin heh, ok. Problem is, activating /api under plack and apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf seems to give only 404 any way I try, and 500 if trying to access /api/v1/swagger.json directly. Had to copy api folder from source into /usr/share/koha/api, since it is ignored in the Makefile.PL
12:49 Joubu benjamin: might be better to shoot without asking ;)
12:45 benjamin jajm: if you're online, care to help with some REStful API under plack setup issues?
12:18 drojf we'll see how long it takes until the 300gb/month cap makes me quit
12:17 drojf upgrading dsl from 10/1 to 50/10 was not a bad idea
12:01 drojf hei magnuse and cait
11:42 magnuse ah, noissuescharge
11:36 magnuse huh, if i want to say that patrons with more than x$ in fines are blocked from borrowing any more books, where do i configure it?
11:21 * benjamin waves back to magnuse
11:15 magnuse hi cait and drojf
11:00 cait hi #koha
10:54 * magnuse waves to benjamin
10:01 drojf hi #koha
09:53 matts okay, thx
09:52 cait marcelr++
09:52 marcelr just uncomment some lines in koha-conf and restart zebra
09:52 cait not sure if thereis more to it
09:52 cait i think probably have to uncomment in koha-conf.xml?
09:51 marcelr manually in any case :)
09:51 matts marcelr, thanks. Can it be enabled on an existing koha install ?
09:49 marcelr it is a parameter for koha-create in debian packages
09:49 cait similar like z39.50
09:49 cait hm you might have to enable it
09:49 matts thx cait... Is it enabled by default ?
09:48 cait marcelr gave a talk on it once too :) http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/06/07/kohacon12-koha-and-sru/
09:47 cait http://manual.koha-community.org/3.22/en/sru.html
09:47 matts (issn/isbn)
09:46 matts ok... Is there some documentation about that ?
09:46 cait my coworker is rather fond of SRU for searching Koha - it seems to work well
09:45 cait is*n?
09:45 cait SRU
09:45 matts Do you know if there's a webservice in koha that allows to search biblio by title or is*n ?
09:44 matts Hello #koha !
09:40 cait i just tried a search for "rest api" seems to create a good list
09:40 benjamin good call, I'm on it!
09:40 cait and some patches waiting for sign off it hink
09:40 cait most of the discussion si taking place there
09:40 cait benjamin: maybe try taking a look at bugzilla?
09:39 cait it would probably be good to get some input there
09:38 benjamin hi cait, no worries! Long time no see, by the way! Been off Koha for a while now, but now 100% in, and REST Api no.1 priority
09:37 marcelr hi cait
09:37 cait hi marcelr :)
09:37 marcelr hi #koha
09:35 cait i have to pass on that one i am afraid
09:35 cait benjamin: hm maybe wait for tcohen or jajm
09:26 benjamin Hi, anyone like to enlighten me on their setup of the new RFC Restful API with Swagger under Plack? seems I'm missing the entire `api` folder and running into `not found`. Installed v3.22.03
08:52 LibraryClaire hi cait :)
08:48 cait hey, it's LibraryClaire :)
08:19 LibraryClaire hey magnuse :)
08:18 magnuse hiya LibraryClaire
08:16 LibraryClaire morning #koha
08:02 Francesca almost too hot some days
08:02 Francesca warm
08:02 Francesca its been fantastically wRM
08:01 magnuse Francesca: wow, indian summer in nz?
08:01 Francesca hi cait!
08:01 cait hi Francesca :)
07:56 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (8:30 PM NZDT on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
07:56 Francesca @wunder wlg
07:56 Francesca thanks
07:55 magnuse wb Francesca
07:53 cait hi magnuse :)
07:52 magnuse kia ora cait
07:16 cait morning #koha
06:59 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
06:59 reiveune hello
06:52 wahanui que tal, alex_a
06:52 alex_a bonjour
06:38 Joubu hi
05:51 magnuse and fresh snow on the ground
05:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on March 31, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
05:50 magnuse @wunder boo
05:50 magnuse \o/
05:47 * Francesca waves back
05:45 * magnuse waves
03:08 wizzyrea :)
03:08 wizzyrea I keep expecting cbrannon to answer and NOTHING.
03:08 wizzyrea !
03:08 wizzyrea it's been driving me nuts1
03:08 wizzyrea man that question has been hanging all day