Time  Nick            Message
23:12 cait            gmcharlt++ # packages
21:40 Francesca       its morning here magnuse
21:33 * magnuse       waves good night (or other time of the day)
21:30 * Francesca     waves
21:06 cait            it's been a long monday :)
21:02 cait            when i studied japanese the language support for windows included tools to help you entering the signs
21:02 cait            just kinda not finding the words to explain what i mean
21:00 barton          cait: actually, I think it did make sense...
21:00 cait            barton: i am sorry if that didn't make much sense :)
20:07 cait            like if you have language support installedfor a language or not i'd say
20:07 cait            it dependson your OS what options it gives you to enter orginal script
20:06 cait            definitely not html
20:06 cait            nt html
20:06 cait            barton: you enter unicode characters
20:02 barton          or do I need to use alt codes?
20:02 barton          eg, if I enter html entities, will they be passed in?
20:01 barton          anyone know off hand what methods are available to enter unicode characters in the MARC editor?
19:53 geek_cl         for the LDAP-AUTH records: http://pastebin.com/NxB7HAPm
19:28 geek_cl         Joubu, just for confirm, its worked.
18:58 huginn          khall: The operation succeeded.
18:58 khall           @later tell tcohen could the script.t test failure be related to TmplTokenizer.pm?
18:53 wahanui         hey, bag
18:53 bag             hi there
18:53 magnuse         bag: HI
18:52 bag             back
18:43 huginn          khall: The operation succeeded.
18:43 khall           @later tell tcohen any idea why this doesn't work? https://github.com/kylemhall/Koha/commit/44e10bbcbca1ae0c7e5867088aa9276bb1fdee3c
18:31 gaetan_B        bye
18:26 * druthb        waves back.
18:23 * magnuse       does the evening wave
18:16 tcohen          khall: let me know if there's anything i can do
18:16 tcohen          bbl
18:11 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
18:11 wahanui         bug 6679 is not getting backported.
18:11 tcohen          bug 6679
18:10 tcohen          ah
18:10 tcohen          we could make 00-strict.t parametrizable
18:09 khall           tcohen: I think maybe we should submit a patch to change ok's to is's if we can, that may give us more data
18:09 khall           tcohen: indeed!
18:09 tcohen          and it doesn't fail on my box
18:09 tcohen          00-strict.t takes too much heh
18:08 khall           tcohen: running those tests now to see if any happen for me
18:08 onre            alternatively, define online
18:08 tcohen          thanks
18:08 onre            yes, you are
18:07 tcohen          am i online?
18:02 tcohen          if you go back a lot, and still fails, might be on the DB
18:01 tcohen          (i only did a bisect, which could mean it is related to a DB structure change)
18:01 tcohen          and was able to reproduce the last one, but couldn't figure
18:00 tcohen          couldn't reproduce 00-strict.t
18:00 tcohen          the 500.tt, I fixed it on 15288
18:00 tcohen          http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
17:59 khall           tcohen: please go on
17:59 tcohen          they might be (or not) big deals
17:59 tcohen          khall: we have a couple problems with the tests
17:59 huginn          tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:59 tcohen          @later tell Joubu I couldn't bisect Circulation_Issuingrule.t problem, but it is reproducible in kohadevbox
17:53 Joubu           see you #koha!
17:50 drojf           later #koha
17:45 tcohen          i've been following mtompset's work and exchanging ideas
17:44 Joubu           tcohen: thakns
17:44 tcohen          Joubu: i will QA 15870
17:43 tmcmahon        That should be "Errors when logged in placing a hold from the OPAC..."
17:43 tcohen          bag: i've added a followup for 15288, addressing one of the failing tests in master (jenkins)
17:42 pastebot        "tmcmahon" at pasted "Errors when logging placing a hole from the OPAC (3.22.03)" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/318
17:39 tmcmahon        If I try to place a hold, it displays "Confirm holds for: () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () ()"
17:36 cait            it's nice that it works without thes serial module, but i think there are use cases where the option to connect to a subscription could be nice
17:35 cait            or a loose leaf
17:35 cait            pianohacker: what is an unpredictable order if not a serial? ;)
17:33 tmcmahon        There are more places with the problem, but they probably all come from the same source.
17:23 pastebot        "tmcmahon" at pasted "Errors when logging into the OPAC (3.22.03)" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/317
17:20 oleonard        Have you looked at the error logs to see if anything looks suspicious?
17:20 oleonard        Sorry tmcmahon I can't reproduce your problem in my test system.
17:17 tmcmahon        When I log into the OPAC it just says Hello, Click her if you're not, then lists the items Ihave checked out and repeats all of that 75 times.
17:15 tmcmahon        I'm having a problem with the OPAC in 3.22.03 where it's not showing the name of the user who's logged in and it's repeating the information it does show.
17:11 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
17:11 Joubu           @later tell tcohen could you have a look at bug 15870, as I know you have started something with Koha::RecordProcessor
17:10 reiveune        bye
16:58 pianohacker     mainly used for unpredictable orders where the serials module isn't useful
16:58 pianohacker     cait: yes, it is separate from the serials stuff
16:57 * pianohacker   pokes his head up
16:56 cait            i like wht i see in the description - but haven't tested it yet, so not sure how it's all implemented
16:55 drojf           yeah i think i know what you mean
16:55 drojf           hm
16:54 cait            so probably you have to choose which to use
16:54 cait            one thing I wonder about tho - it seems totally separate from the 'order from subscription' option
16:54 cait            drojf:  i have to check it out - it might help
16:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15531 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Add support for standing orders
16:53 drojf           bug 15531
16:53 drojf           hm no that was wrong
16:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15183 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Continuing" orders for serials, databases and similar
16:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15331 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Sort order breaks at offset=1000 (both OPAC and Intranet)
16:53 drojf           cait: does bug 15331 do what you were looking for with bug 15183?
16:50 cait            no idea,seems unfair )
16:45 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15471 [QA Followup] - Revert use of raw method which is no longer used do to... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f5a7ffaf81a0eaa9240f0790f91b04503484552>
16:44 hbraum          cait :( why is the extra day we get every four years a monday?
16:43 cait            it#s been a long day
16:43 hbraum          ok cait :) yeah i was actually trying to test 15920 for joubu.
16:42 cait            forget i asked
16:42 Joubu           hbraum: ok thanks, will have a look
16:42 cait            aah see yu did
16:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15920 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Clean up and fix errors in batch checkout template
16:42 cait            the patch dedpends on bug 15920
16:41 cait            hbraum: did you apply the dependency?
16:41 hbraum          left a comment on that bug for you — can’t dig around any further this morning. will try again later.
16:40 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15718 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Need more information for items that don't successfully batch checkout
16:40 hbraum          joubu just tried to test batch checkout again like you asked on bug 15718, but am getting software errors :\
16:25 pianohacker     grr. Okay, I'll rebase it
16:25 Joubu           Applying: Bug 13757: Make patron attributes editable in the OPAC (2/2)
16:25 Joubu           no, conflict on opac/opac-memberentry.pl and tt
16:23 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Patch doesn't apply , Make patron attributes editable in the opac if set to 'editable in OPAC'
16:23 pianohacker     Joubu: what error are you getting on bug 13757? Missing sha1 information? I was getting the same :/
16:21 geek_cl         in logs: http://pastebin.com/KcQK4UGj
16:02 tcohen          cya
16:02 tcohen          bbl
15:45 geek_cl         based on 9165, now i use: http://pastebin.com/BFPLpyns
15:42 * tcohen        tries to get more involved, will start with that
15:42 tcohen          ok
15:41 Joubu           tcohen: I did not. If you did not and I did not, I guess nobody did...
15:40 tcohen          anyone looked at the failing tests?
15:40 huginn          cait: The operation succeeded.
15:40 cait            @later tell khall could you take a look at bug 15585?
15:39 cait            oh, scrolling...
15:39 cait            hm have you checked the release notes?
15:38 Joubu           geek_cl: the error you got is about wrong password comparison, try to find what strings are compared
15:37 Joubu           I don't know this code well, I cannot help you, but have a look at that bug (it says something about update_password in koha-conf.xml) and 12831
15:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9165 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow preventing passwords from being stored locally when using LDAP
15:36 Joubu           We had bug 9165, but it has been pushed before 3.20
15:36 Joubu           geek_cl: that's weird, I don't remember anything modifying ldap code between 3.20 and 3.22
15:33 geek_cl         Joubu, the same...
15:31 geek_cl         Joubu, let me try
15:29 Joubu           geek_cl: so 3.20.x without plack I guess. Could you try 3.22.x without plack?
15:28 geek_cl         Joubu, work with 3.20.X, but not with 3.22.X
15:25 Joubu           geek_cl: does it work without plack? Does it work on 3.20.X? Does it work on 3.22.X? Does it work on master?
15:15 geek_cl         in plack-error.log _ http://pastebin.com/Fiftxq40
15:11 geek_cl         i use this confi: http://pastebin.com/e3EAy402
15:06 geek_cl         ;)
15:06 geek_cl         hi oleonard
15:06 geek_cl         a little question, there is any changes aabout ldap auth in the new plack version ?
15:06 oleonard        Hi geek_cl
15:06 geek_cl         Hi #koha guys,!
14:21 Joubu           and it bothered me not to be allowed to do it :)
14:21 Joubu           I have stopped using it because I use to commit with debug statements when implementing stuffs
14:20 Joubu           yes it is, but the one on the wiki does not cover a lot of cases
14:19 oleonard        I wouldn't consider the hook to be a replacement for the qa tools, but I find it a nice quick way to check for some simple mistakes.
14:18 Joubu           actually the qa tools do not check for Dumper and the mysqlism, but others are
14:17 Joubu           oleonard: these hooks are quite old, the qa tools check much more than that
14:11 tcohen          oleonard: qa-tools here
14:09 oleonard        https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Tips_and_tricks#git_hook_to_automatically_check_some_things_when_commiting.2Fapplying
14:08 oleonard        Are folks using a pre-commit hook these days, or just using qa-tools?
13:59 Joubu           I have sent the error to rangi by email
13:58 tcohen          like git bz attach -e number HEAD
13:58 tcohen          Joubu: i had errors when I updated the bug status with the same command
13:56 Joubu           it's a 500
13:56 oleonard        But usually I don't see an actual error, I just see something like "This shouldn't happen!"
13:55 Joubu           hum, weird
13:55 oleonard        He says he didn't see anything unusual in the error logs
13:55 Joubu           oleonard: did you send the error to rangi?
13:54 Joubu           oleonard: yes, just realise I have attached 3x the patch to the bug
13:54 Joubu           ha, it says it fails, but it didn't!
13:54 oleonard        Joubu: I've had that happen many times recently. Check to see that it hasn't succeeded despite the error.
13:53 Joubu           git bz attach fails...
13:43 tcohen          Joubu++
13:43 tcohen          oh, we moved to tuesdays
13:41 cait            Joubu++
13:41 cait            oh thx :)
13:37 Joubu           cait: will do
13:36 cait            https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_1_March_2016
13:36 cait            someone volunteering to send a meeting reminder?
13:22 tcohen          every 4 years (with some exceptions) it exists
13:22 Joubu           master is really really slow, koha-qa tools too
13:22 Joubu           Is there something special happening on 29th Feb?
13:21 Joubu           (even my brain)
13:21 Joubu           Everything is so slow since this morning
13:18 Joubu           ¡hola tcohen!
13:17 wahanui         privet, tcohen
13:17 tcohen          Joubu: hi
13:17 wahanui         salut, tcohen
13:17 tcohen          bonjour
13:14 tcohen_         bonjour
13:01 kidclamp        hah, sorry didn't realize it was yours :-)
13:00 vfernandes      kidclamp: that was a bug filled by and it's something different
12:59 huginn          04Bug 9163: new feature, P1 - high, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow
12:59 kidclamp        https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9163
12:59 kidclamp        vfernandes, would this help?
12:59 oleonard        vfernandes: You can try searching bugzilla to see if anyone has filed a bug for something like that
12:59 kidclamp        so would each library have their own record for a given title?
12:57 vfernandes      oleanord, cait: I would like to work like items, the record belongs to some library
12:57 cait            i think it's not stored right now who added a record to the catalog
12:56 cait            i think if you wanted to implement some kind of permission system, you'd have to defien ownership first in the db in some way
12:56 cait            vfernandes: the record does belong to 'all libraries' at th emoment
12:56 cait            hi kidclamp
12:55 oleonard        vfernandes: How would you want that to work?
12:55 kidclamp        hello #koha
12:54 vfernandes      cait: humm ok... but there is any development to do that?
12:53 cait            vfernandes: nope
12:53 vfernandes      people another question: it's possible to block record edit to some people/library?
12:52 cait            apart from thinking... why?
12:52 cait            nothing too bad i guess - but i think it looks kind of werid
12:51 cait            and they moved it to the middle
12:51 cait            i added the sample line at the bottom again
12:51 drojf           ?
12:51 drojf           cait: what is wrong with the table
12:50 cait            kivilahtio: ean doesn't work for marc21 the same way as for unimarc... it#s not separate but one of those multi-purpose fields iirc
12:49 * cait          wonders why she fixed the kohacon bids table in the first place...
12:38 oleonard        Hi #koha
12:10 Joubu           Almost sure there is not any
12:08 kivilahtio      Joubu: without those, that trip will be quite scary
12:08 kivilahtio      Joubu: I have no idea how well the core is regression tested
12:08 Joubu           kivilahtio: it seems quite hard to do what you want to do, but interesting yes :)
12:01 kivilahtio      this is most apparent when printing labels for items. We have a title in the record, but because it is no in the exact same field, it wont get printed
12:00 kivilahtio      that might be an interesting challenge
12:00 kivilahtio      just asking,. I think the MarcToKohaMapping needs an overhaul to enable mapping multiple subfields to koha-columns
11:59 kivilahtio      anyway
11:59 kivilahtio      it is inconvenient to involve xslt processing
11:58 kivilahtio      then produce a list of what has been done automatically
11:58 kivilahtio      for example if you want to drive reporting on records automatically fetched from a remote source and overlayed over local records
11:57 kivilahtio      Joubu: you cannot invoke XLT transformation everywhere
11:57 Joubu           yes true, they are displayed using xslt, so passing a MARC record
11:57 kivilahtio      anyway, just asking if there could be a way to define simple identifiers and map groups of Marc::Fields to them
11:57 kivilahtio      or even 130$a
11:56 kivilahtio      for ex
11:56 kivilahtio      like 240$a
11:56 kivilahtio      Joubu: like the title, it maps by default to 245$a but it can be in couple of other places depending on the record
11:56 kivilahtio      also there is still the case where the same info can be in multiple fields/subfields
11:56 Joubu           we usually retrieve the issn, isbn or whatever from the DB, not from the MARC record
11:55 kivilahtio      instead of if-elsif:ing all the different columns you need to guess if the record has
11:54 kivilahtio      well my core question was, how convenient it would be to be able to say $MARC::Record->standard_identifier
11:54 Joubu           so you will get all the fields
11:54 Joubu           GetMarcFromKohaField - Returns the MARC fields & subfields mapped to the koha field.
11:54 kivilahtio      true
11:53 Joubu           biblioitems.issn ? :p
11:53 kivilahtio      Joubu: they can also be defined in different MARC::Fields
11:53 kivilahtio      Joubu: how about issn? ismn?
11:52 kivilahtio      Joubu: like biblio.author
11:52 Joubu           biblioitems.ean
11:52 kivilahtio      Joubu: also sometimes many MARC::Fields can map to one Koha database column
11:51 kivilahtio      Joubu: but there is no Koha field for EAN
11:51 Joubu           kivilahtio: we don't, you have to call GetMarcFromKohaField
11:50 drojf           do we have blobs of the authority records MARC in the db, like we have for biblios? if so, where?
11:47 kivilahtio      maybe somebody else has stumbled upon this issue
11:47 kivilahtio      I guess I have separate code in may different places where i need to access these standard identifiers and it is not fun
11:45 kivilahtio      we could easily solve this by extending MARC::Record as Koha::Record
11:45 kivilahtio      there doesn't seem to be a convenient way to access these informations in a unified way which would work for all marc standards
11:44 kivilahtio      or maybe a unique identifier which correspons to the Bib1 attribute set's search index 'standard identifier'
11:44 kivilahtio      MARC::Record doesn't have an accessor for those
11:43 kivilahtio      How do you access the standard identifiers from MARC::Record, like ISBN, EAN, ISSN, ...
11:40 vfernandes      hi drojf
11:35 drojf           hi #koha
11:29 vfernandes      nice! :)
11:25 cait            we have tried CAS with a test server recently, it seemed to work ok
11:11 vfernandes      I never tried CAS and Shibboleth in Koha... LDAP it's working fine
11:09 cait            also shibboleth and ldap
11:09 cait            not sure what woudl be fully, but it seems to work :)
11:08 vfernandes      Koha fully supports CAS right?
11:04 vfernandes      kinda like CAS
11:03 vfernandes      it's a plataform to single sign-on
11:02 vfernandes      active directory federation services: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb897402.aspx
11:01 cait            what is adfs?
11:01 vfernandes      someone here has successfully managed to integrate the Koha with ADFS?
10:59 cait            hi vfernandes
10:58 vfernandes      hi :)
10:30 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:30 Joubu           @later tell khall please have a look at bug 15471 and bug 14889. They are both pushed to master, but a RM action is required (revert + push a followup). I have changed the status to PQA to sent them back to your queueu
09:22 marcelr         i will add a comment too
09:21 Joubu           yes, we should
09:20 marcelr         and when..
09:20 marcelr         in that case he could rebase on top of 15809?
09:19 marcelr         we should ask galen what we can expect and also in what form
09:19 wahanui         yep.
09:19 Joubu           marcelr: yep?
09:18 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , versions of CGI < 4.08 do not have multi_param
09:18 marcelr         Joubu: bug 15809
08:49 cait            g
08:49 cait            Joubu++ thx for fixing the export bu
08:42 * cait          mumbles something about spaces in branchcodes
08:28 magnuse         Guten Morgen cait
08:28 cait            morning magnuse
08:27 * LibraryClaire waves
08:27 * magnuse       waves again
08:25 LibraryClaire   hi cait!
08:25 cait            morning LibraryClaire
08:23 LibraryClaire   morning #koha
08:17 cait            hi marcelr :)
08:16 marcelr         hi cait
08:16 cait            morning #koha
08:10 * magnuse       waves
08:02 gaetan_B        hello
08:01 wahanui         que tal, alex_a
08:01 alex_a          bonjour
07:50 jajm            hi #koha
07:45 wahanui         hola, reiveune
07:45 reiveune        hello
07:45 marcelr         hi #koha
06:48 Joubu           hi #koha
01:49 Francesca       lol
01:45 * jcamins       just wanted to make sure that #koha hadn't forgotten the importance of discussing food.
01:44 jcamins         And it wasn't baking, but I also made potato-leek soup.
01:44 Francesca       yum
01:42 jcamins         And pesto-mozzarella soufflés.
01:39 jcamins         Still, three batches of brownies and financiers isn't too bad for a day's baking.
01:38 ibeardslee      ahh
01:37 jcamins         The dough is in the freezer. I'll try baking them next weekend.
01:36 jcamins         So I doubled everything else.
01:36 jcamins         Maybe even less.
01:36 jcamins         ibeardslee: I should've used half as much bacon fat.
01:33 ibeardslee      how can chocolate and bacon be less than successful?
01:16 wizzyrea        That's a shame.
00:22 jcamins         Okay, the bacon chocolate chip cookies were less than successful, I think.