Time Nick Message 00:22 jcamins Okay, the bacon chocolate chip cookies were less than successful, I think. 01:16 wizzyrea That's a shame. 01:33 ibeardslee how can chocolate and bacon be less than successful? 01:36 jcamins ibeardslee: I should've used half as much bacon fat. 01:36 jcamins Maybe even less. 01:36 jcamins So I doubled everything else. 01:37 jcamins The dough is in the freezer. I'll try baking them next weekend. 01:38 ibeardslee ahh 01:39 jcamins Still, three batches of brownies and financiers isn't too bad for a day's baking. 01:42 jcamins And pesto-mozzarella soufflés. 01:44 Francesca yum 01:44 jcamins And it wasn't baking, but I also made potato-leek soup. 01:45 * jcamins just wanted to make sure that #koha hadn't forgotten the importance of discussing food. 01:49 Francesca lol 06:48 Joubu hi #koha 07:45 marcelr hi #koha 07:45 reiveune hello 07:45 wahanui hola, reiveune 07:50 jajm hi #koha 08:01 alex_a bonjour 08:01 wahanui que tal, alex_a 08:02 gaetan_B hello 08:10 * magnuse waves 08:16 cait morning #koha 08:16 marcelr hi cait 08:17 cait hi marcelr :) 08:23 LibraryClaire morning #koha 08:25 cait morning LibraryClaire 08:25 LibraryClaire hi cait! 08:27 * magnuse waves again 08:27 * LibraryClaire waves 08:28 cait morning magnuse 08:28 magnuse Guten Morgen cait 08:42 * cait mumbles something about spaces in branchcodes 08:49 cait Joubu++ thx for fixing the export bu 08:49 cait g 09:18 marcelr Joubu: bug 15809 09:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15809 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , versions of CGI < 4.08 do not have multi_param 09:19 Joubu marcelr: yep? 09:19 wahanui yep. 09:19 marcelr we should ask galen what we can expect and also in what form 09:20 marcelr in that case he could rebase on top of 15809? 09:20 marcelr and when.. 09:21 Joubu yes, we should 09:22 marcelr i will add a comment too 10:30 Joubu @later tell khall please have a look at bug 15471 and bug 14889. They are both pushed to master, but a RM action is required (revert + push a followup). I have changed the status to PQA to sent them back to your queueu 10:30 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 10:58 vfernandes hi :) 10:59 cait hi vfernandes 11:01 vfernandes someone here has successfully managed to integrate the Koha with ADFS? 11:01 cait what is adfs? 11:02 vfernandes active directory federation services: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb897402.aspx 11:03 vfernandes it's a plataform to single sign-on 11:04 vfernandes kinda like CAS 11:08 vfernandes Koha fully supports CAS right? 11:09 cait not sure what woudl be fully, but it seems to work :) 11:09 cait also shibboleth and ldap 11:11 vfernandes I never tried CAS and Shibboleth in Koha... LDAP it's working fine 11:25 cait we have tried CAS with a test server recently, it seemed to work ok 11:29 vfernandes nice! :) 11:35 drojf hi #koha 11:40 vfernandes hi drojf 11:43 kivilahtio How do you access the standard identifiers from MARC::Record, like ISBN, EAN, ISSN, ... 11:44 kivilahtio MARC::Record doesn't have an accessor for those 11:44 kivilahtio or maybe a unique identifier which correspons to the Bib1 attribute set's search index 'standard identifier' 11:45 kivilahtio there doesn't seem to be a convenient way to access these informations in a unified way which would work for all marc standards 11:45 kivilahtio we could easily solve this by extending MARC::Record as Koha::Record 11:47 kivilahtio I guess I have separate code in may different places where i need to access these standard identifiers and it is not fun 11:47 kivilahtio maybe somebody else has stumbled upon this issue 11:50 drojf do we have blobs of the authority records MARC in the db, like we have for biblios? if so, where? 11:51 Joubu kivilahtio: we don't, you have to call GetMarcFromKohaField 11:51 kivilahtio Joubu: but there is no Koha field for EAN 11:52 kivilahtio Joubu: also sometimes many MARC::Fields can map to one Koha database column 11:52 Joubu biblioitems.ean 11:52 kivilahtio Joubu: like biblio.author 11:53 kivilahtio Joubu: how about issn? ismn? 11:53 kivilahtio Joubu: they can also be defined in different MARC::Fields 11:53 Joubu biblioitems.issn ? :p 11:54 kivilahtio true 11:54 Joubu GetMarcFromKohaField - Returns the MARC fields & subfields mapped to the koha field. 11:54 Joubu so you will get all the fields 11:54 kivilahtio well my core question was, how convenient it would be to be able to say $MARC::Record->standard_identifier 11:55 kivilahtio instead of if-elsif:ing all the different columns you need to guess if the record has 11:56 Joubu we usually retrieve the issn, isbn or whatever from the DB, not from the MARC record 11:56 kivilahtio also there is still the case where the same info can be in multiple fields/subfields 11:56 kivilahtio Joubu: like the title, it maps by default to 245$a but it can be in couple of other places depending on the record 11:56 kivilahtio like 240$a 11:56 kivilahtio for ex 11:57 kivilahtio or even 130$a 11:57 kivilahtio anyway, just asking if there could be a way to define simple identifiers and map groups of Marc::Fields to them 11:57 Joubu yes true, they are displayed using xslt, so passing a MARC record 11:57 kivilahtio Joubu: you cannot invoke XLT transformation everywhere 11:58 kivilahtio for example if you want to drive reporting on records automatically fetched from a remote source and overlayed over local records 11:58 kivilahtio then produce a list of what has been done automatically 11:59 kivilahtio it is inconvenient to involve xslt processing 11:59 kivilahtio anyway 12:00 kivilahtio just asking,. I think the MarcToKohaMapping needs an overhaul to enable mapping multiple subfields to koha-columns 12:00 kivilahtio that might be an interesting challenge 12:01 kivilahtio this is most apparent when printing labels for items. We have a title in the record, but because it is no in the exact same field, it wont get printed 12:08 Joubu kivilahtio: it seems quite hard to do what you want to do, but interesting yes :) 12:08 kivilahtio Joubu: I have no idea how well the core is regression tested 12:08 kivilahtio Joubu: without those, that trip will be quite scary 12:10 Joubu Almost sure there is not any 12:38 oleonard Hi #koha 12:49 * cait wonders why she fixed the kohacon bids table in the first place... 12:50 cait kivilahtio: ean doesn't work for marc21 the same way as for unimarc... it#s not separate but one of those multi-purpose fields iirc 12:51 drojf cait: what is wrong with the table 12:51 drojf ? 12:51 cait i added the sample line at the bottom again 12:51 cait and they moved it to the middle 12:52 cait nothing too bad i guess - but i think it looks kind of werid 12:52 cait apart from thinking... why? 12:53 vfernandes people another question: it's possible to block record edit to some people/library? 12:53 cait vfernandes: nope 12:54 vfernandes cait: humm ok... but there is any development to do that? 12:55 kidclamp hello #koha 12:55 oleonard vfernandes: How would you want that to work? 12:56 cait hi kidclamp 12:56 cait vfernandes: the record does belong to 'all libraries' at th emoment 12:56 cait i think if you wanted to implement some kind of permission system, you'd have to defien ownership first in the db in some way 12:57 cait i think it's not stored right now who added a record to the catalog 12:57 vfernandes oleanord, cait: I would like to work like items, the record belongs to some library 12:59 kidclamp so would each library have their own record for a given title? 12:59 oleonard vfernandes: You can try searching bugzilla to see if anyone has filed a bug for something like that 12:59 kidclamp vfernandes, would this help? 12:59 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9163 12:59 huginn 04Bug 9163: new feature, P1 - high, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow 13:00 vfernandes kidclamp: that was a bug filled by and it's something different 13:01 kidclamp hah, sorry didn't realize it was yours :-) 13:14 tcohen_ bonjour 13:17 tcohen bonjour 13:17 wahanui salut, tcohen 13:17 tcohen Joubu: hi 13:17 wahanui privet, tcohen 13:18 Joubu ¡hola tcohen! 13:21 Joubu Everything is so slow since this morning 13:21 Joubu (even my brain) 13:22 Joubu Is there something special happening on 29th Feb? 13:22 Joubu master is really really slow, koha-qa tools too 13:22 tcohen every 4 years (with some exceptions) it exists 13:36 cait someone volunteering to send a meeting reminder? 13:36 cait https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_1_March_2016 13:37 Joubu cait: will do 13:41 cait oh thx :) 13:41 cait Joubu++ 13:43 tcohen oh, we moved to tuesdays 13:43 tcohen Joubu++ 13:53 Joubu git bz attach fails... 13:54 oleonard Joubu: I've had that happen many times recently. Check to see that it hasn't succeeded despite the error. 13:54 Joubu ha, it says it fails, but it didn't! 13:54 Joubu oleonard: yes, just realise I have attached 3x the patch to the bug 13:55 Joubu oleonard: did you send the error to rangi? 13:55 oleonard He says he didn't see anything unusual in the error logs 13:55 Joubu hum, weird 13:56 oleonard But usually I don't see an actual error, I just see something like "This shouldn't happen!" 13:56 Joubu it's a 500 13:58 tcohen Joubu: i had errors when I updated the bug status with the same command 13:58 tcohen like git bz attach -e number HEAD 13:59 Joubu I have sent the error to rangi by email 14:08 oleonard Are folks using a pre-commit hook these days, or just using qa-tools? 14:09 oleonard https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Tips_and_tricks#git_hook_to_automatically_check_some_things_when_commiting.2Fapplying 14:11 tcohen oleonard: qa-tools here 14:17 Joubu oleonard: these hooks are quite old, the qa tools check much more than that 14:18 Joubu actually the qa tools do not check for Dumper and the mysqlism, but others are 14:19 oleonard I wouldn't consider the hook to be a replacement for the qa tools, but I find it a nice quick way to check for some simple mistakes. 14:20 Joubu yes it is, but the one on the wiki does not cover a lot of cases 14:21 Joubu I have stopped using it because I use to commit with debug statements when implementing stuffs 14:21 Joubu and it bothered me not to be allowed to do it :) 15:06 geek_cl Hi #koha guys,! 15:06 oleonard Hi geek_cl 15:06 geek_cl a little question, there is any changes aabout ldap auth in the new plack version ? 15:06 geek_cl hi oleonard 15:06 geek_cl ;) 15:11 geek_cl i use this confi: http://pastebin.com/e3EAy402 15:15 geek_cl in plack-error.log _ http://pastebin.com/Fiftxq40 15:25 Joubu geek_cl: does it work without plack? Does it work on 3.20.X? Does it work on 3.22.X? Does it work on master? 15:28 geek_cl Joubu, work with 3.20.X, but not with 3.22.X 15:29 Joubu geek_cl: so 3.20.x without plack I guess. Could you try 3.22.x without plack? 15:31 geek_cl Joubu, let me try 15:33 geek_cl Joubu, the same... 15:36 Joubu geek_cl: that's weird, I don't remember anything modifying ldap code between 3.20 and 3.22 15:36 Joubu We had bug 9165, but it has been pushed before 3.20 15:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9165 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow preventing passwords from being stored locally when using LDAP 15:37 Joubu I don't know this code well, I cannot help you, but have a look at that bug (it says something about update_password in koha-conf.xml) and 12831 15:38 Joubu geek_cl: the error you got is about wrong password comparison, try to find what strings are compared 15:39 cait hm have you checked the release notes? 15:39 cait oh, scrolling... 15:40 cait @later tell khall could you take a look at bug 15585? 15:40 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 15:40 tcohen anyone looked at the failing tests? 15:41 Joubu tcohen: I did not. If you did not and I did not, I guess nobody did... 15:42 tcohen ok 15:42 * tcohen tries to get more involved, will start with that 15:45 geek_cl based on 9165, now i use: http://pastebin.com/BFPLpyns 16:02 tcohen bbl 16:02 tcohen cya 16:21 geek_cl in logs: http://pastebin.com/KcQK4UGj 16:23 pianohacker Joubu: what error are you getting on bug 13757? Missing sha1 information? I was getting the same :/ 16:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Patch doesn't apply , Make patron attributes editable in the opac if set to 'editable in OPAC' 16:25 Joubu no, conflict on opac/opac-memberentry.pl and tt 16:25 Joubu Applying: Bug 13757: Make patron attributes editable in the OPAC (2/2) 16:25 pianohacker grr. Okay, I'll rebase it 16:40 hbraum joubu just tried to test batch checkout again like you asked on bug 15718, but am getting software errors :\ 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15718 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Need more information for items that don't successfully batch checkout 16:41 hbraum left a comment on that bug for you — can’t dig around any further this morning. will try again later. 16:41 cait hbraum: did you apply the dependency? 16:42 cait the patch dedpends on bug 15920 16:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15920 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Clean up and fix errors in batch checkout template 16:42 cait aah see yu did 16:42 Joubu hbraum: ok thanks, will have a look 16:42 cait forget i asked 16:43 hbraum ok cait :) yeah i was actually trying to test 15920 for joubu. 16:43 cait it#s been a long day 16:44 hbraum cait :( why is the extra day we get every four years a monday? 16:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15471 [QA Followup] - Revert use of raw method which is no longer used do to... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f5a7ffaf81a0eaa9240f0790f91b04503484552> 16:50 cait no idea,seems unfair ) 16:53 drojf cait: does bug 15331 do what you were looking for with bug 15183? 16:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15331 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Sort order breaks at offset=1000 (both OPAC and Intranet) 16:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15183 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Continuing" orders for serials, databases and similar 16:53 drojf hm no that was wrong 16:53 drojf bug 15531 16:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15531 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Add support for standing orders 16:54 cait drojf: i have to check it out - it might help 16:54 cait one thing I wonder about tho - it seems totally separate from the 'order from subscription' option 16:54 cait so probably you have to choose which to use 16:55 drojf hm 16:55 drojf yeah i think i know what you mean 16:56 cait i like wht i see in the description - but haven't tested it yet, so not sure how it's all implemented 16:57 * pianohacker pokes his head up 16:58 pianohacker cait: yes, it is separate from the serials stuff 16:58 pianohacker mainly used for unpredictable orders where the serials module isn't useful 17:10 reiveune bye 17:11 Joubu @later tell tcohen could you have a look at bug 15870, as I know you have started something with Koha::RecordProcessor 17:11 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 17:15 tmcmahon I'm having a problem with the OPAC in 3.22.03 where it's not showing the name of the user who's logged in and it's repeating the information it does show. 17:17 tmcmahon When I log into the OPAC it just says Hello, Click her if you're not, then lists the items Ihave checked out and repeats all of that 75 times. 17:20 oleonard Sorry tmcmahon I can't reproduce your problem in my test system. 17:20 oleonard Have you looked at the error logs to see if anything looks suspicious? 17:23 pastebot "tmcmahon" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors when logging into the OPAC (3.22.03)" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/317 17:33 tmcmahon There are more places with the problem, but they probably all come from the same source. 17:35 cait pianohacker: what is an unpredictable order if not a serial? ;) 17:35 cait or a loose leaf 17:36 cait it's nice that it works without thes serial module, but i think there are use cases where the option to connect to a subscription could be nice 17:39 tmcmahon If I try to place a hold, it displays "Confirm holds for: () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () () ()" 17:42 pastebot "tmcmahon" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors when logging placing a hole from the OPAC (3.22.03)" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/318 17:43 tcohen bag: i've added a followup for 15288, addressing one of the failing tests in master (jenkins) 17:43 tmcmahon That should be "Errors when logged in placing a hold from the OPAC..." 17:44 tcohen Joubu: i will QA 15870 17:44 Joubu tcohen: thakns 17:45 tcohen i've been following mtompset's work and exchanging ideas 17:50 drojf later #koha 17:53 Joubu see you #koha! 17:59 tcohen @later tell Joubu I couldn't bisect Circulation_Issuingrule.t problem, but it is reproducible in kohadevbox 17:59 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:59 tcohen khall: we have a couple problems with the tests 17:59 tcohen they might be (or not) big deals 17:59 khall tcohen: please go on 18:00 tcohen http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ 18:00 tcohen the 500.tt, I fixed it on 15288 18:00 tcohen couldn't reproduce 00-strict.t 18:01 tcohen and was able to reproduce the last one, but couldn't figure 18:01 tcohen (i only did a bisect, which could mean it is related to a DB structure change) 18:02 tcohen if you go back a lot, and still fails, might be on the DB 18:07 tcohen am i online? 18:08 onre yes, you are 18:08 tcohen thanks 18:08 onre alternatively, define online 18:08 khall tcohen: running those tests now to see if any happen for me 18:09 tcohen 00-strict.t takes too much heh 18:09 tcohen and it doesn't fail on my box 18:09 khall tcohen: indeed! 18:09 khall tcohen: I think maybe we should submit a patch to change ok's to is's if we can, that may give us more data 18:10 tcohen we could make 00-strict.t parametrizable 18:10 tcohen ah 18:11 tcohen bug 6679 18:11 wahanui bug 6679 is not getting backported. 18:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests 18:16 tcohen bbl 18:16 tcohen khall: let me know if there's anything i can do 18:23 * magnuse does the evening wave 18:26 * druthb waves back. 18:31 gaetan_B bye 18:43 khall @later tell tcohen any idea why this doesn't work? https://github.com/kylemhall/Koha/commit/44e10bbcbca1ae0c7e5867088aa9276bb1fdee3c 18:43 huginn khall: The operation succeeded. 18:52 bag back 18:53 magnuse bag: HI 18:53 bag hi there 18:53 wahanui hey, bag 18:58 khall @later tell tcohen could the script.t test failure be related to TmplTokenizer.pm? 18:58 huginn khall: The operation succeeded. 19:28 geek_cl Joubu, just for confirm, its worked. 19:53 geek_cl for the LDAP-AUTH records: http://pastebin.com/NxB7HAPm 20:01 barton anyone know off hand what methods are available to enter unicode characters in the MARC editor? 20:02 barton eg, if I enter html entities, will they be passed in? 20:02 barton or do I need to use alt codes? 20:06 cait barton: you enter unicode characters 20:06 cait nt html 20:06 cait definitely not html 20:07 cait it dependson your OS what options it gives you to enter orginal script 20:07 cait like if you have language support installedfor a language or not i'd say 21:00 cait barton: i am sorry if that didn't make much sense :) 21:00 barton cait: actually, I think it did make sense... 21:02 cait just kinda not finding the words to explain what i mean 21:02 cait when i studied japanese the language support for windows included tools to help you entering the signs 21:06 cait it's been a long monday :) 21:30 * Francesca waves 21:33 * magnuse waves good night (or other time of the day) 21:40 Francesca its morning here magnuse 23:12 cait gmcharlt++ # packages