Time  Nick          Message
00:49 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
00:49 mtompset      Francesca: I sang in my univeristy choir a LONG time ago. It was an easy 1/4 credit. :)
00:49 Francesca     lol
01:53 mtj           heya mtompset, what kind of tunes? ^
02:00 mtompset      Choral stuff that I would never remember.
02:00 mtompset      :)
02:11 mtj           i recently discovered this stuff. -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean-n%C3%B3s_song
02:14 mtj           i think i can heard its influence in Sinéad O'Connor :)
02:14 mtj           heh, can heard
02:17 mtj           "Enhancing a sense of continuity such as by filling the gap between phrases with a nasalised drone"
02:29 * mtj         wasnt suggesting she had a 'nasalised drone', nor that there is anything wrong with that :)
02:40 mtompset      Chacun son gout. -- Any french speakers, pardon my horrible French.
02:40 mtompset      (Each to his own taste)
02:41 mtompset      Strange how foreign languages sit in your head for ages, and you don't think of them until your response comes out in that language.
02:41 mtompset      Having been in the Philippines, my mushy romantic side tends to have Filipino expressions.
08:06 gaetan_B      hello
08:06 wahanui       privet, gaetan_B
08:07 reiveune      hello
08:07 wahanui       hey, reiveune
08:38 * magnuse     waves
11:14 balvis        can anyone please help me in issuing reminders in koha?
11:14 balvis        the patron must me sent an email regarding overdue
11:14 drojf         hi #koha
11:42 octo19        Hi folks, I'm trying to install fresh Koha on Debian 8 with no success. The error is "no installation candidate" for at least 50 Koha dependancies. The issue seems to be stuck with perl/CPAN. I'm in need of a perl/CPAN repo. Thoughts? Advice? Thanks!
11:43 bob_          octo19: sounds like your apt sources might be set up wrong. Also, did you do an apt-get update?
11:44 octo19        bob_ you are probably correct. I have done apt-get update several times. I've also tried adding all 3 of the Debian CDROMs as repos without success.
11:44 bob_          yeah don't use the cdroms, use internet mirrors
11:45 bob_          http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ is handy for this
11:46 bob_          actually that site looks to be having problems at the moment
11:46 bob_          try http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-sources-list-generator.html
11:46 octo19        Yea I tried that last week without success. I'll try the second one you sent.
11:47 bob_          blah, that just links to the first one
11:47 bob_          which country are you in?
11:48 octo19        Yes haha.
11:48 octo19        Spain
11:50 cait          packages?
11:50 wahanui       packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
11:50 cait          best is to follow this
11:51 cait          you don't need any dependencies from CPAN
11:51 octo19        that's what I'm using
11:51 cait          it will all be installed with installing koha-common
11:51 cait          then what's in your host?
11:51 cait          are you using stable?
11:52 octo19        cait I'm doing 'apt-get install koha-common' without success.
11:52 octo19        yes I'm using stable.
11:52 bob_          octo19: your apt-sources list should look something like http://pastebin.com/tJt27tfh . Then follow instructions at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
11:52 cait          what is the entry in your koha.list file?
11:52 octo19        I've also tried 'apt-get install -f' without success
11:53 octo19        bob_ my source list looks just like that and I'm following those instructions
11:54 cait          can you paste what is in your koha.list file?
11:54 octo19        cait where can I find that file? Google didn
11:54 octo19        didn't tell me
11:54 cait          it's in the instructions
11:54 cait          /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
11:55 * cait        waves at bob_ - any luck with your search problem?
11:56 octo19        cait the koha.list file doesn't exist on my machine...hmm...thoughts?
11:56 bob_          cait: nup, I came here to ask another question actually. The old database had everything stored as usmarc - is there anything I have to do to make that work?
11:56 cait          octo19: yep, start from the beginning of the instructions again
11:56 cait          something has not gone right
11:57 cait          bob_: usmarc and marc21 are very similar/the same - it's probably not a problem
11:58 cait          as long as you didn>'t install with unimarc :)
11:58 bob_          I can't get yaz to give me any results though
11:58 cait          hm
11:58 cait          maybe check if your zebrasrv process is running
11:58 bob_          yep, done that
11:58 bob_          I can connect with yaz
11:58 cait          oh
11:58 cait          did you index?
11:59 cait          after moving the data to the new server?
11:59 bob_          with `koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v unisfa'? yes
11:59 cait          hm
12:00 cait          and that returend no problems?
12:01 bob_          there was one warning that I didn't get any google luck from, I'll rerun to grab it again
12:01 bob_          20:01:04-23/02 zebraidx(1006) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number)
12:02 octo19        cait you were correct; I started from the top and now the koha.list file is happy. However, I still have unmet dependancies. apt-get install -f does not work.
12:03 cait          so what does it tell you?
12:03 cait          bob_: you came from a really old koha version, right?
12:03 bob_          yeah
12:03 bob_          version 3 I think
12:04 octo19        cait "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
12:04 cait          there can be a problem with zebra if your records don't have a unique bilbionumber... but you imported them using the koha import tools i think... so not sure what could go wrong there
12:04 cait          did you change anything in the configuration about the mappngs?
12:04 cait          octo19: what's in your koha.list file?
12:04 octo19        cait only the koha repo
12:05 cait          which one?
12:05 wahanui       well, which one is t?
12:05 cait          can you paste the line?
12:05 octo19        deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main
12:06 cait          hm and you ran duso apt-get update?
12:06 octo19        ues
12:06 octo19        yes*
12:06 cait          sorry, i am out of ideas
12:06 cait          it shoudl work
12:06 bob_          cait: do you mean config via administration or config via koha-conf?
12:07 cait          via administration
12:07 bob_          octo19: that error can be caused by pinned packages or apt-preferences
12:07 cait          oh, and did you check the about page - system information tab for clues?
12:07 octo19        cait thanks for your help.
12:07 octo19        bob_ how can I check that?
12:07 bob_          yes I did and that only had a trivial thing about currencies not set. Fixed that and now it's blank
12:08 cait          sorry, out of ideas :( maybe ty the mailing list
12:08 bob_          octo19: check /etc/apt/preferences and anything in /etc/apt/preferences.d/
12:09 bob_          cait: thanks for trying
12:09 cait          it's probably something small
12:09 cait          it always is
12:10 octo19        bob_ /etc/apt/preferences doesn't exist and /preferences.d is empty.
12:13 bob_          octo19: first undo whatever you've done with installing packages before (eg apt-get remove --purge koha-common) and make sure you can install standard debian packages. Don't bother trying to install koha-common until you've made apt happy
12:14 bob_          anyway, this is getting messy...pm me
12:14 bob_          cait: what does the "base" command in yaz-client do?
12:31 cait          bob_: sorry, yaz and me are not really friends
12:31 cait          have you checked the wiki for instructions?
12:33 bob_          yeah nothing more than "base biblios"
12:34 gaetan_B      Hi magnuse, it seems we're going to meet in the far north pretty soon :)
12:34 bob_          and the yaz client manual is about as helpful
12:34 cait          bibios is the db name i think
12:34 cait          from your koha-conf file
12:35 cait          not the mysql db
12:35 cait          i might be confusing things, but i am quite sure it comes from the config in koha-conf
12:39 Joubu         base will select  the zebra db to use
12:39 Joubu         defaults are biblios and authorities
12:39 cait          thx Joubu
12:39 Joubu         cf koha-conf.xml, section server
12:39 cait          i started to feel a bit lonely here :)
12:41 bob_          Joubu: as in server id=<blah> ?
12:42 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:42 Joubu         bob_: you have server id="biblioserver"
12:42 Joubu         and later, a serverInfo tag
12:42 Joubu         with host, port and database
12:45 bob_          ah yes
13:13 bob_          okay, if someone who's seen a few more zebra reindexes than me could take a look at these it would be great
13:13 bob_          reindex job: http://pastebin.com/nYU9CWyd
13:13 bob_          sample output: http://pastebin.com/8UEuwewz
13:15 bob_          I also just noticed there's two entries with 090c = 1, is that likely to break things on the koha end?
13:26 oleonard      I'd love to hear opinions about Bug 15883
13:26 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15883 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client
13:27 oleonard      I think it's a workable plan, but I'm not sure about the git history issue.
13:35 cait          oleonard++
13:40 oleonard      Who's our Datatables colVis expert?
13:40 oleonard      Bug 15674
13:40 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15674 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Show/hide columns' is not translatable
13:42 oleonard      Seems like it's potentially a simple fix to move that button text into a place where it will get translated. Simple for a colVis expert anyway.
13:48 LibraryClaire afternoon #koha
14:07 oleonard      @later tell rangi I've been getting intermittent errors from Bugzilla. Have you noticed anything on your end?
14:07 huginn        oleonard: The operation succeeded.
14:10 nengard       morning all
14:11 oleonard      Hi nengard
14:15 cait          Joubu: could you take a look at bug 15674 maybe?
14:15 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15674 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'Show/hide columns' is not translatable
14:15 cait          and oleonard++ :)
14:16 talljoy       has dcook had his baby yet?  all i see on facebook is him posting random *non baby* links.
14:16 talljoy       his wife is in labor!  I want updates.  :-D
14:16 cait          i think in march
14:17 cait          or did i miss something?
14:17 talljoy       according to the source of all news (facebook) her water broke like a day or so ago
14:17 cait          i put march in my calendar... at least a while ago
14:17 cait          oh wow
14:17 oleonard      talljoy: I know, right?!
14:17 talljoy       srsly
14:17 oleonard      *non baby* links!!
14:17 talljoy       i don't care about the prime minister of canada
14:17 cait          maybe just too busy?
14:17 talljoy       WHERE IS THE BABY
14:17 cait          heh
14:18 cait          [off] i need for someone tofind out about his postal address
14:18 talljoy       [off] we are librarians...one of surely can track this down.   maybe bob birchall knows?
14:18 cait          hm good thought
14:19 cait          [off] i can try emailing him about it
14:32 drojf         lol
14:35 drojf         talljoy: i hear you will tell me all about BIBFRAME? i booked a flight to rome this morning :)
14:35 talljoy       yay!
14:35 drojf         my first question is, has the name BIBFRAME to be shouted outside of the internet too?
14:36 talljoy       It will change your life.
14:36 drojf         that will be one loud workshop
14:36 talljoy       it will be a rowdy time...
14:36 talljoy       we could just starting going with the triple prefix of bf:  that will be quieter....
14:37 drojf         heh
14:39 drojf         [off] apparently italy has a lot of places with gluten free food. much easier than berlin…
14:39 talljoy       excellent!  brendan is on a quest to find the perfect gnocchi.  you two may not be sharing many meals then.  ;-)
14:39 talljoy       i'm after the wine....i'm safe eating anywhere. lol
14:41 drojf         [off] i actually have gluten free gnocchi from italy here, so that should be doable ;)
14:41 drojf         the wine part is also important :D
14:46 oleonard      With the new audio alerts system, it supposed to be possible to define multiple sounds for a particular selector?
14:46 oleonard      If not, I don't understand the "precedence" setting.
14:46 oleonard      khall?
14:46 wahanui       rumour has it khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;)
14:47 cait          i think the one that applies first
14:47 cait          for overlapping definitions?
14:47 cait          did you check the help page? i think i read something there about the precedence
14:47 oleonard      Good thinking.
14:48 oleonard      I guess precedence applies when more than one selector is on the page. So really it shouldn't be possible to define multiple sounds for one selector?
14:48 cait          that's my guess
14:59 tcohen        morning
15:17 * oleonard    welcomes tcohen clone tcohen1
15:17 * oleonard    wonders how many clones are in this series... tcohen500?
15:26 tcohen        clone wars
15:29 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15643 - Every datepicker on serials expected date column updates top issue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c6214f5c943d8c2f12e7cf84c3965ddc4778956>
15:39 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 13534 - Deleting staff patron will delete tags approved by this patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a66674a96484124b69d627f6e2e081debafa4a6c> / Bug 13534: Do not remove tags on deleting a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb419ba83d8c7b6bf710b42ad3fe61701809fc0e>
15:50 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev for Bug 13534 [Followup] - Remove tabs and atomic update file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c00169e536780bb371351fab8fdd119718145fcd>
16:52 reiveune      bye
17:06 gaetan_B      bye
17:43 oleonard      Bug 15886 makes me feel like a busybody, but I think it is a good improvement. I hope you don't mind khall.
17:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15886 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Revise layout and behavior of audio alerts management
17:44 khall         oleonard: not at all! I'm no ui wizard so I always appreciate ui improvements ; )
17:44 khall         I'll have to check it out
17:47 cait          overdue_notices.pl is about to make me cry :(
17:47 pianohacker   it does that to people
17:47 nengard       oh no
17:47 cait          the fines work just like they shoudl in my testing... but i can't manage to make the right books show up in the overdue notices
17:48 cait          i have a grace period of 3
17:48 cait          so say we ignore the calendar
17:48 cait          and i set the delay to 3
17:48 cait          say i just set the delay to three, completely independent from the grace period...
17:49 cait          why woudl it list the item with the due date from yesterday in the overdue notice?
17:49 cait          and only this item
17:49 cait          although i have one item checked out for every day from today to ... january
17:49 cait          it makes no sense
17:51 pianohacker   cait: are you running it in triggered mode or no?
17:51 cait          -t
17:52 cait          tested both... both make no sense, but ultimately i want -t
17:55 cait          i want it to list the item s that are overdue from 3 days onward to the next delay value
17:55 cait          like it did in 3.18
18:07 cait          pianohacker: it's me
18:07 cait          stupid configuration mistake
18:10 cait          now it's happy tears... all working :)
18:16 cait          pianohacker++ thx for listening :)
18:16 cait          bye all!
19:17 rangi         oleonard: just the usual bots/search engines agressively spidering it, probably maxing connections
19:18 oleonard      Thanks for looking rangi. The errors on my end are never informative.
19:24 * cait        waves
19:33 kathryn       morning
19:38 cait          oleonard: hm i have another with for the item search management form
19:38 cait          can we get rid of the pull downs?
19:39 cait          i filed a bug - for example we use upper case subfields in items and it's not possible to confiugre that
19:41 oleonard      I suppose we could replace them with text fields... I wonder what kind of validation we can provide
19:41 cait          i think for the field three numbers should work
19:42 oleonard      And one character for subfields?
19:42 cait          maybe we could just check for a single character and 3 characters?
19:42 cait          would work for me
19:43 cait          trying to find the bugreport
19:43 cait          bug 15384
19:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15384 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Items search fields: Change pull downs to input fields
19:44 cait          and with was supposed to be wish... )
19:59 oleonard      You wish is my command cait
19:59 * oleonard    waves goodbye
19:59 cait          oh
19:59 cait          now i missed him
20:10 cait          oleonard++ ... all the patches
20:51 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15785 - Use Font Awesome icons in confirmation dialogs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5939c4b2333925f71ededff450e9ea9a8eb5ab26>
21:01 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15756: Some tests for haspermission in C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cb371689da5192caa529149a39c7a4389f056e4> / Bug 15764: Fix timestamp sent by KOCT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0987165d6aab0951259b2101c2133ae4c221357b> / Bug 15790 - Don't delete a MARC framework if existing records use that framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
21:03 tcohen1       "Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm"
21:03 tcohen1       anyone?
21:03 wahanui       anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
21:04 cait          hm when and where?
21:04 tcohen        fresh packages install (3.22), enabling plack
21:05 tcohen        Joubu mentioned this error, constrained to kohadevbox:ansible a while back
21:05 tcohen        i'm puzzled no one has raised it before (we have 3.22.3 lready!
21:19 rangi         Hmm I havent bumped into it, and I have a few 3.22 running
21:20 tcohen        its a bug in libauthen-cas-client-perl I think
21:20 tcohen        it is looking for Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm
21:20 tcohen        which is not shipped
21:20 rangi         ahh maybe only shows if you have cas turned on?
21:20 tcohen        no, this is just a clean install for testing purposes
21:21 tcohen        have you tried on debian 8? with plack?
21:21 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15746: Same fix for "write off" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=efad45a0e39703017a894d3ffdd1a7078d13af60> / Bug 15746: Do not record individual payments with randomly picked libraries <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80a690588ceac464891dcb2956c3b148433a253c>
21:21 rangi         hmm, probably not with plack
21:21 tcohen        ah, exactly
21:22 tcohen        it does happen with plack only
21:22 tcohen        rangi: how are you doing btw?
21:22 tcohen        :-D
21:22 rangi         not too bad, a bit tired, but otherwsie ok, how about you?
21:24 tcohen        tired, trying to catch up, finally
21:24 tcohen        :-D
21:29 bag           yeah trying to catch up - sounds familiar
21:31 tcohen        hi bag
21:31 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15742 [QA Followup] - Tidy script <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0277c545b0369046e3d2785689ea52b99d84962f> / Bug 15742: Remove unnecessary loop in j2a cronjob <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf047247893b04de820ff51e9b2d8f43773af332>
21:31 tcohen        later #koha
21:41 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12051: Adds a Renew tab to the staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e93ffac3f1dd92a1fa5e10dd52cffcaa5a1c2192> / Bug 15730 - 500 error on returns.pl if barcode doesn't exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27231db75d222ac0dad655e8e8b918afac9477ec>
22:21 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15833: item.biblioitemnumber returns a biblioitem DBIx::Class object <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1302f91755012d9d31e87b037cb882bc025b357f> / DBRev Bug 6624 - Allow Koha to use the new read API from OpenLibrary <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53213496d2d27c2f3038e7b0b4238f62350967f7> / Bug 6624: Add test for OpenLibrary <http://git.koha-community.org/g
22:42 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15706: (follow-up) Changing to circulate_remaining_permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a382c8c1cb10687117083be29478a246859daf07> / Bug 15706: Changing to circulate_remaining_permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4bcd98d9a2eab285b0280b4eae77987e053fcf3>
22:52 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15670 - Rename "Cancel" to "Cancel hold" when checking in a waiting item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9dc8be41780c3a4332f2fd50f80961d1653c49e> / Bug 15691: Show card number minimum and maximum in visible hint when adding a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f172a3c1bc8c7cd1664eabac81c5b66877b3952>
23:02 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15663: Fix 'remove selected items', add a 'delete batch' button <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bf881d32c41b54357949e4d37b1401b1324bc8e>
23:12 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15605: Remove the cursor:pointer style. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=effe1e27819a3b7d156e4abf5c96dd34d529246f> / Bug 15605 - Accessibility: Can't tab to add link in serials routing list add user... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c76549dd7b4a090844a5a51664409417f9838923> / Bug 15657 (follow-up bug 15501): add missing semi-colon <http://git.koha-communi
23:16 bag           oh rangi you’ve got a few running 3.22 already?  nice.  Are they noticing a good change with plack ?
23:17 rangi         it's not running plack
23:17 bag           ah
23:17 rangi         will switch it on at some point, but haven't tested it enough to do it in production yet
23:17 bag           so no notice :)
23:17 bag           heh
23:18 rangi         we have other sites running in plack
23:18 rangi         but not using the method in 3.22
23:22 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15514: Fix error with certain repeatable fields in Rancor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53a081278d505b76efbd7c08dbe7d45649779740> / DBRev for Bug 15517 - Tables borrowers and deletedborrowers differ again <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e061b2b65cd0cfa1f9e1b51e9d7ea0550c2b6a4f> / Bug 15517: Change wording for tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/
23:32 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15479 [QA Followup] - Tidy sub to remove tabs causing qa script to fail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d268d428fd984aeb76f617e0e93ef6fdea543230> / Bug 15479 Add tests for ILS.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=df4b1552211aae130b2ac31b44f45892c342e28c> / Bug 15479 Make ILS cardnumber comparison case insensitive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh