Time Nick Message 23:28 bag happy birthday trea 23:28 huginn` bag: The operation succeeded. 23:28 bag @later tell magnuse HI THERE 23:24 dcook 2.1. The MARC 21 formats are communication formats, primarily designed to provide specifications for the exchange of bibliographic and related information between systems. They are widely used in a variety of exchange and processing environments. As communication formats, they do not mandate internal storage or display formats to be used by individual systems. 23:23 dcook https://www.loc.gov/marc/96principl.html 23:23 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg 23:23 * dcook facepalm 23:23 dcook Interesting reading: Reading about MARC and how it's defined 22:50 huginn` 04Bug 14168: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube 22:50 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 22:50 nengard @later tell drojf did you see https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14168 21:32 wahanui cbrannon is attempting to setup a test box for Koha. I am in debian and use "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone", but I get a connection refused error. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? FYI, I've never used debian before today. 21:32 kidclamp hey cbrannon 21:15 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 21:15 Francesca good morning 20:42 wahanui I was trapped in a maze of twisty, turny passages, all alike. 20:42 eythian Welcome back 20:27 rangi hmm true 20:26 drojf rangi: i wonder if they use the same (sub)domain and two different ports, so they would need 443 for opac and 8443 (or whatever) for staff? but the mail was only about intranet 20:20 rangi drojf: that make sense as an email? 20:09 huginn` bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <tcohen> so we need to check debian/ubuntu has the ca and root cert installed 20:09 bag @seen tcohen 20:01 drojf ok then i won't :) 20:01 rangi just answering that now 20:01 rangi heh 20:01 * drojf giggles 20:01 drojf oh look, its redirect http to https day :D 19:50 bag and it has some koha-conf changes so that would need to be run too (iirc) 19:49 drojf yeah, makes sense 19:48 rangi because it was rebased, you'll probably need to do a fresh checkout anyway 19:48 rangi to git.koha-community.org 19:48 rangi the catalyst branch was rebased on top of master, then that was pushed 19:48 drojf ok cool 19:47 drojf (meaning, can i keep that vm or do i redo everything ^^) 19:47 rangi they are currently the same 19:47 drojf or are those synced in some way? 19:47 drojf ok so the catalyst branch obsolete? 19:46 cait but we need to get working on it :) 19:46 bag I think it is a very viable option for 3.24 19:46 drojf or, is 3.24 an option or probably not? 19:46 bag heh 19:46 bag 10 days ago :) 19:46 cait there is a branch on the main repo now - I think 19:45 drojf frame even 19:45 drojf speaking of which… what is the estimated time frage for ES in koha? 19:45 cait heh 19:45 drojf lol yeah 19:45 rangi in theory, we could index it with elasticsearch or something else, and search that, but that would be just more procrastinating so I don't have to write presentations 19:44 drojf i think it splits everything at " ". try finding a part of a word, nope 19:43 rangi it really does 19:43 drojf search in mediawiki sucks 19:43 drojf in the end i found the list of all domains… it's on the main wiki page so i did not find it with a search haha 19:42 drojf *only 19:42 drojf onyl you got none because we talked about it anyway 19:41 drojf e got an email :) 19:41 rangi he looks after that 19:41 drojf i spammed/friendly reminded everyone 19:41 rangi might want to ping bernardo 19:41 cait hm i think translte is in argentina somewhere? 19:41 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7241] circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number <https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241> 19:41 rangi ah yep 19:41 drojf yeah that would be cool. it's awesome the wiki is https only now. translate would be nice too 19:41 cait pretty good progress for a day :) from 1 to 5 19:40 rangi ill do some more as time permits, I think all the ones with logins now eh? 19:38 drojf i think we have 5 https subdomains now. cool 19:36 drojf thanks 19:36 rangi sweet 19:36 drojf i mean https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/index.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1 19:36 drojf tried the url directly, no warning either 19:35 drojf no warning in firebug anymore 19:34 rangi try that 19:33 drojf good tester :D 19:33 rangi heh 19:33 drojf after i said its fixed 19:33 drojf i did not see it myself. somebody complained to me about having no https on bz and then immediately found that too 19:33 rangi 2 secs ill try to find it 19:33 rangi i bet its a config variable i can change 19:32 rangi yup 19:32 drojf its really odd 19:32 drojf yes or that 19:32 rangi yeah 19:32 rangi it's http 19:32 drojf yes, i have seen that. it only happens when you log out there and in again 19:32 rangi if you go to the page itself, without js 19:32 rangi https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ with the js .. its https 19:31 rangi interesting if you do it it from here 19:29 drojf rangi: cool, thanks! and good morning :) 19:28 rangi drojf: ill look into that login form issue now 19:28 cait morning 19:27 rangi morning 18:45 cait storing the due date in the description did never seem like a good idea 18:44 cait a goodfirst step :) 18:44 cait as we want to switch to the new dateformat... i was kind of grumpy about just that thing 18:44 khall thanks! it's my first part of the accounts rewrite rewrite! 18:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15675 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines 18:44 cait khall: i like bug 15675 :) 17:27 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 17:27 cait @later tell cbrannon the reports lists codes are documented on the help page i think - it shoudl work for all authorized values, branches and itemtypes 16:51 * drojf heads home 16:48 drojf the apt-transport-https package is not standard in jessie either, just tried 16:40 drojf works for me, thanks gmcharlt! 16:38 gmcharlt drojf: fixed 16:36 gmcharlt and yeah, it's mediawki thing 16:36 drojf which may be due to the funny setup of mediawiki. not sure if mine does that right 16:36 gmcharlt ah, I shall fix that then 16:36 drojf ah i see. it redirects when you open the main url, but does not if you open an article directly 16:35 drojf i can still use the wiki without https 16:33 drojf gmcharlt: given that apt uses gpg keys that is probably true. or at least was back in the days when certificates were expensive 16:32 gmcharlt drojf: it looks like the reasoning is that apt does enough on its own to verify the validity of packages, and that a HTTPS is not required for that prupose 16:32 cbrannon Got a question for the room. You know how you can create a dropdown list of items in a Koha report by doing something like i.homebranch=<<Library|branches>>, where branches creates that dropdown list? Is there a list of these lists that can be used in reports somewhere? 16:32 drojf lol 16:31 drojf its funny that is not a standard module in debian then 16:31 gmcharlt yeah, I'm not doing it, as I prefer not to have the whole world knocking on my door tomorrow morning ;) 16:31 drojf that "we" should not be there 16:31 drojf gmcharlt: yes we probably making that https-only is not a nice move then 16:30 gmcharlt because the apt-transport-https package must be installed first to use https apt repositories, at least on wheezy 16:30 cait someone might still have a copy of the contents, not sure 16:30 drojf ok then i delete it from the wiki now 16:29 cait i think so 16:29 gmcharlt tcohen: drojf: works for me, but I don't think we can mandate it 16:29 cait it hosted some additional things - i remember a few documents from there 16:29 drojf ok so there was a contribs.k*ha.org but never on k-c.org? 16:29 cait and not picked up by someone 16:28 cait contribs was never moved from the liblime servers i think 16:28 tcohen so we need to check debian/ubuntu has the ca and root cert installed 16:28 drojf what is (or was) contribs.koha-community.org? it is in the list in the wiki, but not in the detailed list of who maintains what. and it is not available 16:28 tcohen gmcharlt: they can, i've noticed problems with root certificates once 16:24 cait gmcharlt++ again - more sites :) 16:24 cait :) 16:23 drojf when you put a ! after awesome, you don't have to pay for it. ha! 16:23 gmcharlt I plan to make it so, but after confirming whether apt tools can handle the redirect 16:22 drojf awesome! thanks! 16:22 gmcharlt and debian.koha-community.org now supports HTTPS, but is not yet HTTPS-only 16:22 gmcharlt also, perldoc.koha-community.org is HTTPS-only 16:19 cait heh 16:19 drojf so i am a successful spammer :P 16:19 drojf gmcharlt++ 16:18 cait looking good from here 16:17 cait very cool 16:17 cait gmcharlt++ :) 16:17 gmcharlt the wiki is now HTTPS-only; please ping me if you see anything amis 15:50 reiveune bye 15:21 tcohen fixed a bug for newer debian 8 images too 15:21 cait :) 15:14 tcohen kohadevbox:ansible updated to https bz 14:51 nengard tcohen https://twitter.com/gmcharlt/status/691987051282042880 14:50 tcohen git bz broken? 14:16 cait tsks at pianohacker :P 14:07 lds thanks 14:07 tcohen sure 14:07 lds tcohen: for jenkins migration 14:06 tcohen what for? 14:04 lds tcohen: you have time for me in an hour? 14:02 tcohen hi lds 14:00 tcohen hi cait 13:54 lds tcohen: hello thomas 13:53 wahanui salut, lds 13:53 lds hello 13:49 cait hi tcohen 13:27 tcohen morning 13:18 drojf anyway everybody running stuff for the community deserves a big thank you :) 13:17 drojf i did spare rangi because we already talked about it. and wizzyrea deserves a honourable mention because the main website is https only already. thanks :) 13:15 drojf i checked all koha subdomains for https and spammed all people running them. i hope i won't get killed 13:11 misilot question what's a good limit on the number of bib records to import at once via the marc import tool? 12:25 cait we shouldp robably limit and sort it a bit 12:10 drojf we have a lot of ubuntu documentation 12:10 drojf Koha on Lucid using Koha packages; Koha on Ubuntu; Koha on ubuntu - git; Koha on ubuntu - packages (Arabic Video); Koha on ubuntu - packages long; Koha on ubuntu - tarball 11:56 drojf yeah that will be a lot of fun. lol 11:56 cait i guess we will have discussions once there is moeny :) 11:56 drojf it can take quite long and it is not done now 11:55 cait so I would probably throw money at other things at first 11:55 cait but on the other hand... it doesn't take long and almost all of us can do it 11:49 cait BobB: sorry, was at lunch 11:47 magnuse yeah, it's hard to find the time... 11:47 drojf i would do that for other things too, but spending a day on an article to explain stuff i already know to the general public is not really something i have spare time for these days 11:45 drojf looking at the "switching to dom indexing" article, it took quite a few hours to find out how it actually works (because the outdated article did not help much) and rewrite it completely, so i had something i could point people to that needed to do that 11:40 drojf i also wonder if we should use fundraising money (when we have that one day) to pay for wiki article cleaning. it's not really something we can do along the way, obviously. keeping stuff up to date or updating outdated technical stuff takes a lot of time. or we accept that a part of it is only usable for devs/insiders 11:37 drojf more things to maintain 11:37 drojf i wonder if we really need the debian plus the ubuntu page(s) 11:36 magnuse yeah, that's what i would have thought too 11:36 drojf the latest LTS, so 14…04 i think 11:36 drojf no it's not 11:36 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu says "The current recommendation for Ubuntu is 12.04 LTS." Anyone know if that is still what we reccomend? 11:34 drojf i hope i did not sound too demanding regarding the fork. :P 11:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14716 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, In Discussion , opac-detail.pl -- Series link fails when series title ends with semicolon preceded by space. 11:28 BobB hi cait, are you able to comment on bug 14716 ? 11:20 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:20 drojf @later tell rangi on https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/index.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1 its hardcoded. "<form name="login" action="http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/index.cgi" method="POST">" 11:13 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:13 drojf @later tell rangi i can only reproduce it when i log out and then log in again. firefox does not warn, but firebug does, and i was told safari does too 11:08 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:08 drojf @later tell rangi looks like the login form for bugzilla still uses http 11:04 SamEEE Night friends! 10:44 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 10:44 huginn` wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 10:44 huginn` cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes 10:44 wahanui @quote get 123 10:44 cait @quote 123 10:27 SamEEE hi ashimema! 10:01 ashimema morning 09:21 cait never mind, it's me... 09:21 cait nm 09:20 cait can somene test an item specific hold from staff in 3.20.x? 09:20 cait um 09:17 cait :) 09:17 drojf ah. i'm not handing in a proposal yet, i wanted to check what fields are required to do that 09:15 cait i was curious 09:15 cait what youwant to talk about :) 09:15 drojf it's the proposal submission form. or what do you mean by topic? 09:14 drojf yep 09:14 cait what topic? :) 09:14 cait for greece? 09:13 drojf heh 09:13 drojf It won't take more than (duration of presentation) 1) 10 min. 2) 20 min. 3) 30 min. 4) more 5) Option 5 09:00 drojf magnuse: ah ok, thanks 09:00 drojf rangi++ great! 08:56 magnuse a URI 08:56 magnuse drojf: i think there will be a link 08:55 magnuse rangi++ 08:41 cait rangi++ 08:36 rangi ill update the wiki and email the koha-devel list 08:36 rangi (or without the --global probably works too) 08:36 rangi git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.https true 08:36 rangi ok, sorted 08:33 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 08:33 gaetan_B hello 07:57 alex_a bonjour 07:55 reiveune hello 07:53 drojf maybe that is a stupid question, but i don't know anything about google hangouts, so… how does one know where to go to watch the fundraising committe meeting in google hangouts? will google just know to open it because they spy on all things people do so they know your interests? 06:58 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 06:58 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 06:57 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (7:30 PM NZDT on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 06:57 Francesca @wunder wlg 06:57 Francesca sup 06:54 drojf hi Francesca 06:45 Francesca hey 06:43 drojf morning #koha 01:29 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 25.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 01:29 Francesca @wunder wlg 01:25 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded. 01:25 jcamins @later tell NateC Thanks!