Time Nick Message 01:25 jcamins @later tell NateC Thanks! 01:25 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded. 01:29 Francesca @wunder wlg 01:29 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 25.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 06:43 drojf morning #koha 06:45 Francesca hey 06:54 drojf hi Francesca 06:57 Francesca sup 06:57 Francesca @wunder wlg 06:57 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (7:30 PM NZDT on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 06:58 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 06:58 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (7:50 AM CET on January 26, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 07:53 drojf maybe that is a stupid question, but i don't know anything about google hangouts, so… how does one know where to go to watch the fundraising committe meeting in google hangouts? will google just know to open it because they spy on all things people do so they know your interests? 07:55 reiveune hello 07:57 alex_a bonjour 08:33 gaetan_B hello 08:33 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 08:36 rangi ok, sorted 08:36 rangi git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.https true 08:36 rangi (or without the --global probably works too) 08:36 rangi ill update the wiki and email the koha-devel list 08:41 cait rangi++ 08:55 magnuse rangi++ 08:56 magnuse drojf: i think there will be a link 08:56 magnuse a URI 09:00 drojf rangi++ great! 09:00 drojf magnuse: ah ok, thanks 09:13 drojf It won't take more than (duration of presentation) 1) 10 min. 2) 20 min. 3) 30 min. 4) more 5) Option 5 09:13 drojf heh 09:14 cait for greece? 09:14 cait what topic? :) 09:14 drojf yep 09:15 drojf it's the proposal submission form. or what do you mean by topic? 09:15 cait what youwant to talk about :) 09:15 cait i was curious 09:17 drojf ah. i'm not handing in a proposal yet, i wanted to check what fields are required to do that 09:17 cait :) 09:20 cait um 09:20 cait can somene test an item specific hold from staff in 3.20.x? 09:21 cait nm 09:21 cait never mind, it's me... 10:01 ashimema morning 10:27 SamEEE hi ashimema! 10:44 cait @quote 123 10:44 wahanui @quote get 123 10:44 huginn` cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes 10:44 huginn` wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 10:44 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 11:04 SamEEE Night friends! 11:08 drojf @later tell rangi looks like the login form for bugzilla still uses http 11:08 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:13 drojf @later tell rangi i can only reproduce it when i log out and then log in again. firefox does not warn, but firebug does, and i was told safari does too 11:13 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:20 drojf @later tell rangi on https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/index.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1 its hardcoded. "<form name="login" action="http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/index.cgi" method="POST">" 11:20 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 11:28 BobB hi cait, are you able to comment on bug 14716 ? 11:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14716 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, In Discussion , opac-detail.pl -- Series link fails when series title ends with semicolon preceded by space. 11:34 drojf i hope i did not sound too demanding regarding the fork. :P 11:36 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu says "The current recommendation for Ubuntu is 12.04 LTS." Anyone know if that is still what we reccomend? 11:36 drojf no it's not 11:36 drojf the latest LTS, so 14…04 i think 11:36 magnuse yeah, that's what i would have thought too 11:37 drojf i wonder if we really need the debian plus the ubuntu page(s) 11:37 drojf more things to maintain 11:40 drojf i also wonder if we should use fundraising money (when we have that one day) to pay for wiki article cleaning. it's not really something we can do along the way, obviously. keeping stuff up to date or updating outdated technical stuff takes a lot of time. or we accept that a part of it is only usable for devs/insiders 11:45 drojf looking at the "switching to dom indexing" article, it took quite a few hours to find out how it actually works (because the outdated article did not help much) and rewrite it completely, so i had something i could point people to that needed to do that 11:47 drojf i would do that for other things too, but spending a day on an article to explain stuff i already know to the general public is not really something i have spare time for these days 11:47 magnuse yeah, it's hard to find the time... 11:49 cait BobB: sorry, was at lunch 11:55 cait but on the other hand... it doesn't take long and almost all of us can do it 11:55 cait so I would probably throw money at other things at first 11:56 drojf it can take quite long and it is not done now 11:56 cait i guess we will have discussions once there is moeny :) 11:56 drojf yeah that will be a lot of fun. lol 12:10 drojf Koha on Lucid using Koha packages; Koha on Ubuntu; Koha on ubuntu - git; Koha on ubuntu - packages (Arabic Video); Koha on ubuntu - packages long; Koha on ubuntu - tarball 12:10 drojf we have a lot of ubuntu documentation 12:25 cait we shouldp robably limit and sort it a bit 13:11 misilot question what's a good limit on the number of bib records to import at once via the marc import tool? 13:15 drojf i checked all koha subdomains for https and spammed all people running them. i hope i won't get killed 13:17 drojf i did spare rangi because we already talked about it. and wizzyrea deserves a honourable mention because the main website is https only already. thanks :) 13:18 drojf anyway everybody running stuff for the community deserves a big thank you :) 13:27 tcohen morning 13:49 cait hi tcohen 13:53 lds hello 13:53 wahanui salut, lds 13:54 lds tcohen: hello thomas 14:00 tcohen hi cait 14:02 tcohen hi lds 14:04 lds tcohen: you have time for me in an hour? 14:06 tcohen what for? 14:07 lds tcohen: for jenkins migration 14:07 tcohen sure 14:07 lds thanks 14:16 cait tsks at pianohacker :P 14:50 tcohen git bz broken? 14:51 nengard tcohen https://twitter.com/gmcharlt/status/691987051282042880 15:14 tcohen kohadevbox:ansible updated to https bz 15:21 cait :) 15:21 tcohen fixed a bug for newer debian 8 images too 15:50 reiveune bye 16:17 gmcharlt the wiki is now HTTPS-only; please ping me if you see anything amis 16:17 cait gmcharlt++ :) 16:17 cait very cool 16:18 cait looking good from here 16:19 drojf gmcharlt++ 16:19 drojf so i am a successful spammer :P 16:19 cait heh 16:22 gmcharlt also, perldoc.koha-community.org is HTTPS-only 16:22 gmcharlt and debian.koha-community.org now supports HTTPS, but is not yet HTTPS-only 16:22 drojf awesome! thanks! 16:23 gmcharlt I plan to make it so, but after confirming whether apt tools can handle the redirect 16:23 drojf when you put a ! after awesome, you don't have to pay for it. ha! 16:24 cait :) 16:24 cait gmcharlt++ again - more sites :) 16:28 tcohen gmcharlt: they can, i've noticed problems with root certificates once 16:28 drojf what is (or was) contribs.koha-community.org? it is in the list in the wiki, but not in the detailed list of who maintains what. and it is not available 16:28 tcohen so we need to check debian/ubuntu has the ca and root cert installed 16:28 cait contribs was never moved from the liblime servers i think 16:29 cait and not picked up by someone 16:29 drojf ok so there was a contribs.k*ha.org but never on k-c.org? 16:29 cait it hosted some additional things - i remember a few documents from there 16:29 gmcharlt tcohen: drojf: works for me, but I don't think we can mandate it 16:29 cait i think so 16:30 drojf ok then i delete it from the wiki now 16:30 cait someone might still have a copy of the contents, not sure 16:30 gmcharlt because the apt-transport-https package must be installed first to use https apt repositories, at least on wheezy 16:31 drojf gmcharlt: yes we probably making that https-only is not a nice move then 16:31 drojf that "we" should not be there 16:31 gmcharlt yeah, I'm not doing it, as I prefer not to have the whole world knocking on my door tomorrow morning ;) 16:31 drojf its funny that is not a standard module in debian then 16:32 drojf lol 16:32 cbrannon Got a question for the room. You know how you can create a dropdown list of items in a Koha report by doing something like i.homebranch=<<Library|branches>>, where branches creates that dropdown list? Is there a list of these lists that can be used in reports somewhere? 16:32 gmcharlt drojf: it looks like the reasoning is that apt does enough on its own to verify the validity of packages, and that a HTTPS is not required for that prupose 16:33 drojf gmcharlt: given that apt uses gpg keys that is probably true. or at least was back in the days when certificates were expensive 16:35 drojf i can still use the wiki without https 16:36 drojf ah i see. it redirects when you open the main url, but does not if you open an article directly 16:36 gmcharlt ah, I shall fix that then 16:36 drojf which may be due to the funny setup of mediawiki. not sure if mine does that right 16:36 gmcharlt and yeah, it's mediawki thing 16:38 gmcharlt drojf: fixed 16:40 drojf works for me, thanks gmcharlt! 16:48 drojf the apt-transport-https package is not standard in jessie either, just tried 16:51 * drojf heads home 17:27 cait @later tell cbrannon the reports lists codes are documented on the help page i think - it shoudl work for all authorized values, branches and itemtypes 17:27 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 18:44 cait khall: i like bug 15675 :) 18:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15675 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines 18:44 khall thanks! it's my first part of the accounts rewrite rewrite! 18:44 cait as we want to switch to the new dateformat... i was kind of grumpy about just that thing 18:44 cait a goodfirst step :) 18:45 cait storing the due date in the description did never seem like a good idea 19:27 rangi morning 19:28 cait morning 19:28 rangi drojf: ill look into that login form issue now 19:29 drojf rangi: cool, thanks! and good morning :) 19:31 rangi interesting if you do it it from here 19:32 rangi https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ with the js .. its https 19:32 rangi if you go to the page itself, without js 19:32 drojf yes, i have seen that. it only happens when you log out there and in again 19:32 rangi it's http 19:32 rangi yeah 19:32 drojf yes or that 19:32 drojf its really odd 19:32 rangi yup 19:33 rangi i bet its a config variable i can change 19:33 rangi 2 secs ill try to find it 19:33 drojf i did not see it myself. somebody complained to me about having no https on bz and then immediately found that too 19:33 drojf after i said its fixed 19:33 rangi heh 19:33 drojf good tester :D 19:34 rangi try that 19:35 drojf no warning in firebug anymore 19:36 drojf tried the url directly, no warning either 19:36 drojf i mean https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/index.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1 19:36 rangi sweet 19:36 drojf thanks 19:38 drojf i think we have 5 https subdomains now. cool 19:40 rangi ill do some more as time permits, I think all the ones with logins now eh? 19:41 cait pretty good progress for a day :) from 1 to 5 19:41 drojf yeah that would be cool. it's awesome the wiki is https only now. translate would be nice too 19:41 rangi ah yep 19:41 huginn` New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7241] circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number <https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241> 19:41 cait hm i think translte is in argentina somewhere? 19:41 rangi might want to ping bernardo 19:41 drojf i spammed/friendly reminded everyone 19:41 rangi he looks after that 19:41 drojf e got an email :) 19:42 drojf onyl you got none because we talked about it anyway 19:42 drojf *only 19:43 drojf in the end i found the list of all domains… it's on the main wiki page so i did not find it with a search haha 19:43 drojf search in mediawiki sucks 19:43 rangi it really does 19:44 drojf i think it splits everything at " ". try finding a part of a word, nope 19:45 rangi in theory, we could index it with elasticsearch or something else, and search that, but that would be just more procrastinating so I don't have to write presentations 19:45 drojf lol yeah 19:45 cait heh 19:45 drojf speaking of which… what is the estimated time frage for ES in koha? 19:45 drojf frame even 19:46 cait there is a branch on the main repo now - I think 19:46 bag 10 days ago :) 19:46 bag heh 19:46 drojf or, is 3.24 an option or probably not? 19:46 bag I think it is a very viable option for 3.24 19:46 cait but we need to get working on it :) 19:47 drojf ok so the catalyst branch obsolete? 19:47 drojf or are those synced in some way? 19:47 rangi they are currently the same 19:47 drojf (meaning, can i keep that vm or do i redo everything ^^) 19:48 drojf ok cool 19:48 rangi the catalyst branch was rebased on top of master, then that was pushed 19:48 rangi to git.koha-community.org 19:48 rangi because it was rebased, you'll probably need to do a fresh checkout anyway 19:49 drojf yeah, makes sense 19:50 bag and it has some koha-conf changes so that would need to be run too (iirc) 20:01 drojf oh look, its redirect http to https day :D 20:01 * drojf giggles 20:01 rangi heh 20:01 rangi just answering that now 20:01 drojf ok then i won't :) 20:09 bag @seen tcohen 20:09 huginn` bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <tcohen> so we need to check debian/ubuntu has the ca and root cert installed 20:20 rangi drojf: that make sense as an email? 20:26 drojf rangi: i wonder if they use the same (sub)domain and two different ports, so they would need 443 for opac and 8443 (or whatever) for staff? but the mail was only about intranet 20:27 rangi hmm true 20:42 eythian Welcome back 20:42 wahanui I was trapped in a maze of twisty, turny passages, all alike. 21:15 Francesca good morning 21:15 wahanui well, it's morning somewhere, yes 21:32 kidclamp hey cbrannon 21:32 wahanui cbrannon is attempting to setup a test box for Koha. I am in debian and use "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone", but I get a connection refused error. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? FYI, I've never used debian before today. 22:50 nengard @later tell drojf did you see https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14168 22:50 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 22:50 huginn` 04Bug 14168: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , enhance streaming cataloging to include youtube 23:23 dcook Interesting reading: Reading about MARC and how it's defined 23:23 * dcook facepalm 23:23 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg 23:23 dcook https://www.loc.gov/marc/96principl.html 23:24 dcook 2.1. The MARC 21 formats are communication formats, primarily designed to provide specifications for the exchange of bibliographic and related information between systems. They are widely used in a variety of exchange and processing environments. As communication formats, they do not mandate internal storage or display formats to be used by individual systems. 23:28 bag @later tell magnuse HI THERE 23:28 huginn` bag: The operation succeeded. 23:28 bag happy birthday trea