Time  Nick              Message
00:00 Francesca         yay 53 kittens saved
00:02 wizzyrea          rangi: which version specifically
00:02 wizzyrea          if you know
00:22 huginn`           New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15607: batch patron mod - do not update dates if not given <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2505a3d840c15e51c7967a576d53a416b5f92bfb>
00:32 rangi             wizzyrea: don't actually care :) he would never upgrade anyway
00:33 gmcharlt          !bug add "implement Koha::TARDIS"
00:33 gmcharlt          jes' sayin' ;)
00:34 Francesca         omg
00:34 Francesca         TARDIS?
00:34 wahanui           well, TARDIS is so going
00:34 Francesca         Im in
00:34 Francesca         whovians of the world/ #koha unite
00:35 gmcharlt          Francesca++
00:37 Francesca         aw yeah karma for doctor who
00:37 Francesca         I'm defiantly in the right place
00:37 gmcharlt          :D
00:39 mtompset          rangi: Where did our favorite Paul post such that you made that dare?
00:39 rangi             mailing list, don't actually do it though :)
00:40 rangi             he'll reply with some FUD
00:40 rangi             its best to just ignore him
00:40 dcook             Don't feed the trolls :D
00:40 mtompset          But I didn't get the mail... That's the thing that bothers me.
00:41 mtompset          I know not to feed trolls... but if I didn't see it, then perhaps my mailing list settings are buggy.
00:43 Francesca         gmcharlt: are you by any chance the galen who manages the wiki
00:43 gmcharlt          Francesca: yep
00:43 Francesca         sweet
00:43 Francesca         do you think the wiki needs a favicon?
00:44 Francesca         rangi said he'd ask you
00:44 Francesca         I got the academy students to have a favicon off yesterday
00:44 gmcharlt          sure, wouldn't hurt
00:45 Francesca         not sure that rangi and I ever decided on a winner but when we do I can write the code and send you the file?
00:45 gmcharlt          sure! I'll PM you the email address to use
00:46 Francesca         thanks
00:47 Francesca         gandalf remind me: did you win the competition yesterday?
00:48 rangi             i think either gandalf or bree
00:48 rangi             maybe we could try both see which looks better
00:48 Francesca         ok can you send me brees
00:49 Francesca         I have gandalfs I think
00:49 rangi             i dont have any of them
00:49 rangi             bree: can you email Francesca your favicon
00:50 rangi             pianohacker++ #thanks for pushing
00:50 Francesca         bree: I'll pm you my email now
00:50 bree              thanks!!
00:51 pianohacker       rangi: yw :)
00:55 gandalf           Francesca: not sure, think the competition is still raging haha
00:55 Francesca         gandalf: we're gonna try yours and brees to see which works best
00:55 Francesca         so hang tight while I get the right format and wrtie the code
01:08 Francesca         gmcharlt: if you're still there I sent you the favicons
01:18 Francesca         gandalf, rangi: look at the wiki
01:19 gmcharlt          Francesca: I've put the first favicon in place
01:19 Francesca         yup I see it
01:19 Francesca         rangi is helping me judge so hopefully he sees it too
01:19 Francesca         and gandalf cas thats his favicon
01:21 Francesca         @seen rangi
01:21 huginn`           Francesca: rangi was last seen in #koha 31 minutes and 5 seconds ago: <rangi> pianohacker++ #thanks for pushing
01:21 Francesca         @seen gandalf
01:21 huginn`           Francesca: gandalf was last seen in #koha 26 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <gandalf> Francesca: not sure, think the competition is still raging haha
01:23 rangi             gandalf: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates#If_you_are_a_developer
01:23 Francesca         rangi: what do you think of gandalfs favicon
01:23 rangi             i like it
01:23 Francesca         alright lets try brees one then
01:24 gmcharlt          switched
01:24 Francesca         gmcharlt: can we see what the other favicon looks like?
01:24 Francesca         ok cool
01:24 Francesca         might take a few mins to show up
01:25 Francesca         I see it now
01:25 Francesca         bree: check out your favicon on the wiki
01:26 Francesca         hey rangi what do you think
01:26 Francesca         also gmcharlt - got a favourite?
01:26 gmcharlt          I like both, with a mild preference for bree's
01:27 Francesca         rangi: got a preference?
01:31 Francesca         gmcharlt: I suggest leaving the current favicon up until rangi's decided his preference - they both look pretty good to me
01:31 Francesca         well done bree and gandalf
01:31 gmcharlt          Francesca: sounds good
01:45 Francesca         gmcharlt: I don't know how long it'll take so I'll get back to you when we have a winner
01:45 gmcharlt          no worries; my IRC proxy is always on :)
01:47 Francesca         okey doke :)
01:56 dcook             TFW the time you're testing something just so happens to coincide with a massive scheduled task
01:56 dcook             ;;
02:09 rangi             hmm i don't know
02:09 rangi             they both look good
02:12 Francesca         in that case gmcharlt had a mild preference for brees
02:12 rangi             lets go for that
02:12 Francesca         1 kitten to bree
02:12 Francesca         congratulations bree you win the favicon off
02:13 Francesca         you want to tell her rangi
02:16 Francesca         good work on all the kitten saving guys
02:16 Francesca         gmcharlt: we decided on bree for the winner so just leave her favicon up
02:17 gmcharlt          ok
02:17 rangi             thanks gmcharlt
02:18 Francesca         thanks for the help gmcharlt
02:18 gmcharlt          you're welcoe
02:18 gmcharlt          welcome, even
02:18 Francesca         lol
02:23 clover            awesome job bree
02:23 Francesca         it looks really good
02:23 Francesca         and now the wiki has a favicon!
02:23 bree              aw yay! :)
02:23 bree              rolling in the kittens
02:24 Francesca         I think you all are
02:24 Francesca         twitter told me that you got kitkat brownies for 50 bugs fixed
02:25 Francesca         I'm jealous
02:25 Francesca         KitKat brownies sound amazing
02:26 Francesca         yay 55 kittens saved!
02:28 dcook             Is that fewer kittens than before or more?
02:28 * dcook           is also debating between eating more cookies or having a sandwich
02:29 Francesca         more kittens
02:29 Francesca         and eat more cookies
02:31 dcook             :D
02:31 dcook             I don't need to model good eating behaviours to children for a little while yet...
02:32 Francesca         nope so eat the cookies
03:26 rangi             gandalf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec
03:33 rangi             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMhiFoEjXc4
03:36 Francesca         rangi you're everywhere on the internet I swear
03:41 Amit_Gupta        hi all
03:43 dcook             @seen blouzid
03:43 huginn`           dcook: I have not seen blouzid.
03:43 dcook             @seen bouzid
03:43 huginn`           dcook: bouzid was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 59 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <bouzid> Joubu : thanks for informations
03:43 dcook             bouzid++
03:44 dcook             Tsk, eythian needs to change his line at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
03:44 dcook             Or we could change it to something awesome..
03:45 dcook             cjh too!
03:46 dcook             Not that he's a regular no more :;/
03:46 wizzyrea          stop I'm gonna cry.
03:46 dcook             Sorry :(
03:46 dcook             If it helps, cjh seems to be doing well over here
03:46 wizzyrea          I know :)
03:46 dcook             And I'm sure eythian is enjoying his museums :p
03:47 dcook             Plus, eythian has to come back sometimes I'm sure
03:47 Francesca         i inherited his desk
03:47 dcook             There's a joke to be made about that but I don't know what it is
03:47 dcook             eythian would have something clever to say about it though
03:47 dcook             Sorry, wizzyrea :(
03:47 Francesca         i havent actually told him yet
03:48 wizzyrea          well I suspect he will know soon ;)
03:48 Francesca         maybe wahanui will beat me too it
03:48 Francesca         wahanui Francesca
03:48 wahanui           you are a junior developer with koha (suprise)
03:48 Francesca         that made me laugh
03:48 wizzyrea          gah spelling.
03:49 dcook             I wasn't going to say anything :p
03:50 Francesca         out of curiosity who set it
03:50 Francesca         not that im complaining
03:50 Francesca         I like being officialy offical
03:51 dcook             officially official is good :)
03:51 Francesca         officially official is awesome!
03:52 wizzyrea          pass
03:53 Francesca         heh
03:53 dcook             You're probably going to surpass my commits any day now..
03:53 Francesca         me?
03:53 wahanui           you are a junior developer with koha (suprise)
03:53 * dcook           looks at http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html
03:53 dcook             :o wizzyrea has overtaken magnuse
03:54 wizzyrea          O.o
03:54 * Francesca       is still looking for dcooks name
03:54 dcook             You can cross reference with http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
03:54 dcook             :D
03:55 dcook             It's lower than it should be given how long I've been officially official :p
03:55 dcook             Also want to do an email merge for Marc Veron as he should be higher than he is..
03:55 * dcook           likes numbers
03:55 dcook             Srdjan too
03:55 wizzyrea          oh I should go
03:55 dcook             Laters wizzyrea
03:55 * dcook           needs to focus some more as well
03:55 Francesca         bye wizzyrea
03:56 Francesca         dccok: I already knew you were a david
03:56 dcook             Ah, that's true
03:56 Francesca         you got added to the long list of davids I know
03:56 dcook             That's what I'm often told
03:56 dcook             I don't think I know any other Davids
03:56 Francesca         my dad is a david
03:56 dcook             My grandpa was one, but when he passed away he made the list lower
03:57 Francesca         so is my godfather and my brothers godfather
03:57 dcook             I thought your dad was a david
03:57 Francesca         and my stepdad
03:57 Francesca         he is a david
03:57 dcook             I personally know no Davids at all
03:57 Francesca         i went to school with 2
03:57 dcook             Ah, I was thinking your stepdad
03:57 dcook             Is your stepdad Canadian?
03:57 Francesca         yip
03:57 dcook             Thought so
03:57 Francesca         he is also a dc
03:57 wahanui           okay, Francesca.
03:57 dcook             DCs are awesome
03:57 Francesca         not a dcook though
03:57 dcook             That would be weird, although there are lots of dcooks
03:57 dcook             My mum is a dcook
03:58 dcook             My grandpa was a dcook
03:58 dcook             The people whose confidential emails I sometimes used to get were also dcooks
03:58 Francesca         I havent met another francesca on here yet
03:58 dcook             Our midwife educator was a Frankie (short for Francesca)
03:58 Francesca         oh lol
03:58 dcook             And we thought about it as a possible baby name, as it's a rad name
03:59 Francesca         very italian
03:59 dcook             I think one of the people int he class was a Fran (short for Francesca?)
03:59 dcook             Hmm, well I'm about as not Italian as they come
03:59 Francesca         same
03:59 dcook             haha
03:59 Francesca         seriosuly my mums dad was british and through my dad I'm 1/32 maori
03:59 dcook             Oh, you might like this
04:00 Francesca         no italian
04:00 dcook             Our bub's middle name is going to be Storm
04:00 Francesca         nice
04:00 dcook             Short for Stormageddon
04:00 dcook             From Doctor Who >_>
04:00 * Francesca       high fives dcook
04:00 dcook             hehe
04:00 Francesca         that is awesome
04:00 dcook             I don't even know what I am anymore
04:00 Francesca         if its a girl you could use clara?
04:00 dcook             Well...
04:00 Francesca         or TARDIS but claras a bit more normal
04:00 dcook             This is why fans shouldn't talk to each other :p
04:00 Francesca         hahahaha
04:00 * dcook           isn't a huge Clara fan
04:01 * Francesca       doesnt mind
04:01 Francesca         Idris is what they called the human TARDIS
04:01 dcook             I wonder how many Kylos there will be in the coming years
04:01 dcook             human TARDIS?
04:01 Francesca         hahahahaha
04:01 wahanui           somebody said hahahahaha was there someone else we should ask?
04:01 Francesca         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctor%27s_Wife
04:02 Francesca         dcook: human TARDIS
04:04 Francesca         tell me what you think
04:14 dcook             Huh... I'm sure I must've seen that once upon a time
04:15 Francesca         you must of
04:15 Francesca         i hope
04:15 Francesca         its a really good episode
04:15 dcook             Sixth series..
04:16 dcook             I think I binge watched that late night with a friend once
04:16 dcook             Maybe I should revisit
04:17 Francesca         indeed
04:34 * Francesca       is tired
07:43 marcelr           hi #koha
07:49 reiveune          hello
08:01 alex_a            bonjour
08:15 reza              Hello
08:15 reza              anyone here can help me with my notice problem?
08:19 TCP               Hi
08:24 Joubu             hi
08:27 reza              anyone to help me?
08:36 reza              ?
08:44 Joubu             reza: what is your problem?
08:45 reza              the patron notices just disappear
08:45 reza              notice goes trough queue and it sends the email
08:45 reza              but somehow after one hour the notice disappear from the patron' profile
08:46 Joubu             disappear?
08:46 reza              yes, it's just not there anymore!
08:46 Joubu             like in mission impossible?
08:46 reza              :D
08:46 reza              yeah
08:46 Joubu             did you check the DB? in the message_queue table
08:46 Joubu             if the notices are still there
08:47 reza              Checking now
08:48 Joubu             reza: the cleanup_database.pl can entries from this table if --mail is passed
08:48 Joubu             remove*
08:50 reza              but shouldn't I have in in cron?
08:50 Joubu             yes, but it could happen :)
08:51 reza              I just checked in a new book
08:51 reza              the message_queue added a record
08:52 reza              but after sometimes it remove the record!
08:52 reza              is it cos of the cleanup_database.pl?
08:52 Joubu             please define "the record"
08:53 reza              the record status was pending and now is sent
08:53 reza              the patron which is my email received the email
08:56 reza              how shall I define the record?
08:56 Joubu             I did not get what you called "the record"
08:57 Joubu             yes, check if you don't have the cronjob set
08:58 reza              new record in the message_queue table in koha database
09:00 reza              no cronjob for cleanup_database.pl
09:04 Joubu             reza: which version of Koha are you using? Is it a fres
09:04 Joubu             a fresh install ?
09:05 reza              3.10
09:05 reza              no
09:05 reza              I have 10GB database :)
09:05 Joubu             And it's a new behavior?
09:05 reza              yes
09:05 Joubu             3.10 is not supported anymore, you should plan an upgrade ;)
09:05 reza              I know
09:06 Joubu             I have no idea why the notices are removed, but there is no way to remove it from the interface
09:06 Joubu             so you should have a script somewhere
09:06 Joubu             (or there is a bug, but hard to say on 3.10)
09:06 reza              too old (coughing)
09:12 LibraryClaire     hello
09:12 wahanui           hey, LibraryClaire
09:26 CoOl-TriP         hi all
09:29 CoOl-TriP         can´t anyone tell me how can i solve this problem. After i install (everything ok) i try to login and gives me this error "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/DBI.pm line 2064."
09:42 reza              Joubu: since I have disable the message_queue no message(notice) is missing!
09:46 Joubu             reza: I really would like to help you, but 3.10 is too out-dated, sorry
09:47 Joubu             reza: all I can say is that it's not the expected behavior :)
09:48 drojf             CoOl-TriP: basic questions: installed what version, on what os, with which installation method?
09:54 reza              <Joubu> I have tried to upgrade but Koha goes to maintenance page after upgrade
09:54 reza              do you any idea about what to do ?
09:54 Joubu             reza: Are you upgrading a production install?
09:54 reza              :D no
09:55 reza              I've copied the VM to my local machine
09:55 reza              making sure that nothing happens if I upgrade the production
09:55 Joubu             reza: phew :)
09:55 reza              yeah
09:56 reza              :D
09:56 Joubu             reza: to upgrade you have to log in with the DB user/pwd (the one defined in the koha-conf.xml) on the staff interface
09:57 Joubu             but 3.10=>3.22 is a really big gap, plan a good test period
09:58 reza              yeah
09:59 reza              I'm asking librarian to check on a test server before i push on production
09:59 reza              but is there any database schema changes from 3.10 to 3.20
09:59 reza              ?
10:00 Joubu             yes, a lot
10:02 reza              hmmm, I was thinking to install a fresh one on a server and just copy the config and template..
10:02 reza              the OS that is hosting the current Koha is a mess...
10:02 reza              Ubuntu 11 ....
10:06 ashimema          install fresh.. clone db over, run the db update
10:10 reza              how can I run the db update?
10:11 reza              in upgrade process?
10:12 reza              database is big and I get Gateway Time-out while upgrading from web installer
10:12 Joubu             you can do it 'manually' with perl installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
10:12 Joubu             and redirect the outputs, you will need it!
10:13 reza              I'm just writing my scenario
10:13 reza              tell me if I'm wrong
10:14 reza              I'm gonna install a new fresh latest version of koha in a machine running a fresh installed ubuntu. then I'm gonna point the new installed koha to the old database and run the updatedatabase.pl.
10:14 Joubu             yep
10:15 Joubu             + config
10:15 Joubu             zebra, cronjob
10:16 reza              copy the koha-config.xml - zebra cong and crontab from the old to the new one
10:16 reza              correct?
10:18 Joubu             I'd say not copy, but adapt
10:19 Joubu             koha-conf.xml has changed between 3.10 and 3.22 so if you erase it, you might have problems
10:19 drojf             the config is quite different now. and you have to switch to dom indexing too
10:20 reza              what is dom indexing?
10:20 wahanui           well, dom indexing is a lot faster than GRS-1.
10:20 reza              is it a replacement for zebra?
10:25 drojf             no, its a different indexing mode within zebra
10:26 drojf             to change an old config you would have to do this wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing
10:31 drojf             http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing even
10:39 drojf             hi paul_p
10:40 paul_p            hi drojf (& others)
10:40 drojf             paul_p: any news about coral? :)
10:41 paul_p            drojf not yet, sorry. In the last 2.5 weeks, I had 8 days of presentation for the huge tender (8 different groups, one for each topic: circulation, acquisition, costs, planning,...)
10:42 CoOl-TriP         drojf i´m reinstalling OS Debian 8.1 i think it was a problem with the intranet suffix and i install in opac instead of intranet
10:42 CoOl-TriP         *debian 8
10:51 drojf             paul_p: that sounds like a lot of work. i'll try to be patient :) the ERM question is coming up in every discussion lately
10:52 drojf             should the new user email from koha go out immediately? i thought it used to be like that, but i don't get anything
11:00 Joubu             Could someone confirm that when updating a guarantor we expect the guarantee's address to be updated as well?
11:00 Joubu             It seems that it's the expected behavior, but looking at the code, it's broken since bug 5379
11:00 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5379 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, cnighswonger, CLOSED FIXED, import_borrowers.pl fails with db insert/update errors
11:01 Joubu             pushed in... 2011
11:05 drojf             Joubu: i would expect different addresses to be possible. they do not necessarily have to live together?
11:05 drojf             but having the option and ask about it would probably be good
11:05 Joubu             drojf: yes, but looking at the code, something is broken
11:08 drojf             that is possible of course
11:09 drojf             new user emails don't work for me in master. i get the checkout mails and the syspref is enabled. anything else i could have missed?
11:14 Joubu             drojf: AutoEmailOpacUser?
11:14 wahanui           i think AutoEmailOpacUser is the one to look at
11:16 drojf             yes, that is enabled
11:16 drojf             email is set for instance and branch
11:16 drojf             other emails work (like checkout)
11:18 Joubu             The ACCTDETAILS template is defined in the 'members' module?
11:18 Joubu             Do you get the "Email has been sent"  info?
11:18 drojf             yes i just checked, going through the code
11:19 drojf             where? in the staff client after setting up the account?
11:19 Joubu             yes
11:19 drojf             i did no tsee such thing
11:20 Joubu             drojf: ha yes... The param is passed to the template but there is a redirect, so it's never displayed...
11:22 drojf             but i got an email not for another account i created. is it possible that it fails if the account has existed before?
11:22 drojf             *now
11:22 drojf             i created and deleted the other account a few times while setting up postfix. a completely new one seems to work
11:26 drojf             ah. i think i did not enter login and password, and then there is no email
11:26 drojf             but nice you found the other bug now ;)
11:28 * cait            waves
11:28 LibraryClaire     hi cait
11:28 drojf             hi cait
11:34 Joubu             drojf: 381         if ( C4::Context->preference("AutoEmailOpacUser") == 1 && $newdata{'userid'}  && $newdata{'password'}) {
11:35 cait              :)
11:35 drojf             if there are error messages it should probably include something about that too ;)
11:36 cait              reading the logs, is the question about guarantor still open?
11:36 cait              if we get to change it, maybe the alternate contact should be filled with the guarantors address - just an idea :) (and probably would need a switch...)
11:36 drojf             it makes sense not to send account details if they dont exist, but the email template may be different and just a welcome, or something
11:36 cait              and for ACCTDETAILS you need to have filled out the userid/password for it to send
11:40 drojf             anyway i forgot what i started all the email stuff for in the first place
11:41 drojf             ah, bug 15280 and related. maybe another time
11:41 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15280 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Switch default CHECKOUT notice to Template Toolkit
11:41 Joubu             cait: I have sent an email to koha-devel about the guarantor/guarantees
11:41 cait              cool
11:42 Joubu             cait: but the code has always been broken
11:42 Joubu             cait: so it won't be a good idea to fix it :)
11:42 cait              yeah :) probably woudl have to be an option now
11:43 cait              author of the year three days in a row - i think you get to keep the trophy now - Joubu :)
11:43 cait              aah, 2016... it's still on
11:43 Joubu             nobody needed this option for the last 10 years, not sure it's worth to implement it
11:43 cait              there might be a bug somewher about it already
11:43 cait              at least about email
11:43 cait              but in general... true
11:46 drojf             but i'm set up to work on the gpg patch too with working email. heh
12:01 CoOl-TriP         can anyone tell me if the instalation must be using intraport ou opac?
12:04 drojf             CoOl-TriP: a regular (non-local) installation should use port 80 for both and two different (sub)domains
12:05 drojf             or 443, with https
12:05 drojf             if you want to run it locally to test and just have an ip, you can use two different ports to distinguish between opac and staff client
12:07 CoOl-TriP         i did that. I installed debian 8, run all the procedure. Now i´m trying to access from web and says mantenance (can´t install)
12:08 drojf             thats ok
12:08 drojf             you need to go to the staff client
12:08 drojf             and do the setup
12:08 drojf             you need to log in with the database user. you can find that in your koha-conf.xml
12:09 CoOl-TriP         shows the same thing. I´m using port 8080 for staf (INTRAPORT)
12:09 CoOl-TriP         can i sent you link in pm?
12:10 drojf             that sounds like your apache config is not correct
12:10 drojf             is 8080 in the apache config for koha, and did you put listen 8080 in apaches ports.conf file?
12:11 CoOl-TriP         any suggestion?
12:11 CoOl-TriP         i´ve add listen 8080 to ports.conf
12:16 CoOl-TriP         using lynx it allows install but shoudn´t be able to do it from browser?
12:18 CoOl-TriP         drojf it´s mandatory use lynx?
12:27 cait              the maintenance message only shows for the opac - not for the staff side
12:27 drojf             lynx is a browser. but it should work in firefox or the like
12:27 drojf             clear your cache
12:28 CoOl-TriP         i+ve installed from there it worked
12:28 CoOl-TriP         but i can´t access staff from web browser only from lynx
12:28 cait              what's the error in the browser?
12:28 cait              there should be no difference
12:29 cait              or dou you mean lynx on the server itself and web browser from anothr computer?
12:30 CoOl-TriP         i´m installing on another computer throught ssh
12:32 CoOl-TriP         if i use a wrong password it says password wrong if i do it right it gives this error on OPAC "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/DBI.pm line 2064."
12:33 CoOl-TriP         when use lynx is from ssh so it´s same machine as instalation
12:37 drojf             did you do a koha package installation?
12:37 drojf             undefined value as ARRAY reference sounds like there is no database set
12:37 drojf             did you install mysql-server too?
12:38 tcohen            morning
12:38 drojf             hi tcohen
12:38 drojf             later #koha
12:40 CoOl-TriP         yes, all installed
12:40 CoOl-TriP         proceed to instalation ok
12:41 CoOl-TriP         i think is something wrong with outside requests
12:47 CoOl-TriP         on server ir shows page
12:47 CoOl-TriP         i mean locally
12:55 oleonard          Hi #koha
12:58 * LibraryClaire   waves
13:07 CoOl-TriP         drojf i can access OPAC but can´t access Staff login page. Only if i+m locally i can access staff page
13:16 LibraryClaire     Does anyone know if there has been anything put up about KohaCon 16 yet? I've seen the dates and location
13:16 drojf             LibraryClaire: CFP and stuff is supposed to come this week
13:17 drojf             there was some talk about it at the last meeting
13:17 drojf             CoOl-TriP: soory, but that sounds like some network problem i can't help you with
13:17 drojf             *sorry
13:17 LibraryClaire     drojf: coolio, thanks. We're starting to look into who we can send, if anyone and it clashes with half term week so flights are not cheap already
14:45 * oleonard        invites comments on Bug 15558
14:45 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15558 normal, P5 - low, ---, chloealabaster, In Discussion , To rename the patron expiration date field in patron screen
15:00 Joubu             ashimema: it seems that we are not the only ones having issues with the github workflow: https://github.com/dear-github/dear-github :)
15:03 ashimema          interesting
15:03 wahanui           it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
15:06 drojf1            cait: do we have a translation issue with expiration? i think it does not matter for us
15:07 drojf1            regarding oleonards question
15:07 ashimema          interestingly.. those are not my top 'anoyances' with github ;)
15:08 drojf1            i was going to answer "i don't care how you call it, i translate it anyway" before i read the second part of the posting ;)
15:10 oleonard          drojf1: As I understand it lots of English-speakers have problems with default terminology choices and some of those people rely on custom translations to solve the problem.
15:10 oleonard          So I'm no sure why a global change is suggested here.
15:12 drojf1            that could be done with jquery too
15:12 drojf1            i guess.
15:16 drojf1            gotta go. later #koha
15:17 cait              oleonard: in german the translation for expiry date seems not to cause any problems
15:17 cait              i think the suggested change translated directly could lead to more confusion... would need to think more about it
15:37 Joubu             bye #koha
16:01 reiveune          bye
16:21 bag               morning
16:21 bag               bug 15295
16:21 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15295 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the C4::Branch related code to Koha::Libraries - part 2
16:27 oleonard          Hi bag
16:27 bag               take a few days off and the queue is upto 90 PQA
16:27 bag               busy few days ahead for me :)
16:27 bag               hi oleonard
17:38 npls              I wonder if it's a global systems setting i need to change...
17:39 npls              does anyone know why the 242 tag in our default framework is not showing up when cataloguing in the cataloguing module?
17:43 oleonard          Did you edit the framework to change the visibility of the tag npls?
17:44 oleonard          npls: Looks like it's hidden in the default framework
17:55 npls              ah problem solved. subfields were all hidden :)
17:55 npls              thank you oleonard.
17:56 npls              much appreciated
17:58 bag               oleonard++
19:38 rangi             clover: in your terminal (not in vagrant)
19:38 rangi             cd Koha
19:38 rangi             git remote add gitlab https://gitlab.com/koha/mainline.git
19:40 rangi             git fetch gitlab
19:40 pianohacker       rangi: you guys setting up a gitlab?
19:41 rangi             thats my gitlab, ive had it for a while
19:41 rangi             it's where i put stuff that I work on in my own time
19:42 rangi             pianohacker: https://gitlab.com/koha/mainline/builds/590112
19:42 oleonard          Hi rangi and pianohacker
19:42 rangi             i have it testing builds too
19:42 pianohacker       sweet
19:42 pianohacker       hi oleonard
19:43 oleonard          pianohacker: Question on Bug 15600
19:43 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15600 minor, P5 - low, ---, chloealabaster, In Discussion , System preferences broken toolbar looks broken
19:43 pianohacker       oleonard: yar, lemme take a look
19:43 rangi             but for today, we are using it, because I have an academy branch, which has all the students patches on it, so we can run gource over it
19:44 oleonard          pianohacker: Particularly my last comment
19:44 pianohacker       oleonard: oh dammit :/ I see that
19:44 pianohacker       of course I would overzealously break something I'd worked on
19:44 pianohacker       do you think just adding back in the selectors for #toolbar would fix that?
19:45 oleonard          Yes. I just wanted to make sure you didn't have a reason to argue otherwise.
19:46 pianohacker       oleonard: lemme check what rancor is doing
19:47 pianohacker       I know I needed to make that change because I had multiple toolbars on the page, and thought I had checked it wouldn't break other things
19:47 pastebot          "rangi" at pasted "for the students" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/269
19:47 rangi             clover: there is some more stuff in that url
19:48 pianohacker       oleonard: yeah, we need to just add the selectors back in. I thought everything with #toolbar had .btn-toolbar as well, but it turns out that's very wrong
19:51 pianohacker       (the original change was done because there are multiple toolbars in the rancor interface within modals)
19:52 oleonard          I figured you had a reason pianohacker
19:58 rangi             https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/690245506732163072
19:58 rangi             https://www.flickr.com/photos/catalystopensource/sets/72157663606132212
20:00 liw               "backup that, and that, and that..."
20:04 rangi             :)
20:17 rangi             natasha:  http://paste.koha-community.org/269
20:29 gandalf           clover: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15637
20:29 huginn`           04Bug 15637: trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Spelling mistake in placerequest.pl
20:32 geek_cl           Hi guys , what means this creating the first issuingrule http://pastebin.com/c9Zujk3V
20:32 rangi             what version geek_cl ?
20:33 wizzyrea          and how was it installed
20:33 rangi             looks like a database update didnt run or somthing, the code is out of sync with the database anyway
20:33 geek_cl           rangi,
20:34 geek_cl           was a fresh install of 3.22.01
20:35 rangi             students: in you Koha dir run git branch
20:35 rangi             students: check you are on the academy branch
20:36 rangi             students: if so, then run gource --start-date '2016-01-18'
20:43 rangi             wget http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gource/gource_0.43-1_amd64.deb
20:44 rangi             ok
20:44 rangi             so in your terminal run cd
20:45 rangi             git clone https://github.com/acaudwell/Gource.git
20:45 rangi             cd Gource
20:46 geek_cl           rangi, http://pastebin.com/ahghAqHm
20:47 geek_cl           chargeperiod_charge_at field not exist
20:47 rangi             dont have time to look geek_cl
20:47 rangi             im teaching students today
20:47 geek_cl           oh, ok. sorry class ;)
20:52 cait              geek_cl: hm it should exist
20:52 cait              this was a new installation you said?
20:53 geek_cl           cait, how to check the version of the schema ?
20:53 geek_cl           yes
20:53 cait              this sql is used to generate a new database - and the column is there http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=431a541ce6793a476f4c7825badcff94a773cbc8;hb=2505a3d840c15e51c7967a576d53a416b5f92bfb#l1166
20:53 cait              are you using translated templates?
20:54 rangi             git log --pretty=format:user:%aN%n%at --reverse --raw --encoding=UTF-8 --no-renames --after=2016-01-18
20:58 geek_cl           cait, yes es-ES
20:58 cait              can you try and see if the error appers on the enlgish pages as well?
20:59 geek_cl           give me some minutes
21:00 geek_cl           cait can i add that column manually,  right?
21:00 cait              hm would be good to find out why you are missing it
21:00 cait              it's in kohastructure... so that should not happen for a new installation
21:02 geek_cl           ok. thanks ;)
21:03 rangi             git log --pretty=format:user:%aN%n%at --reverse --raw --encoding=UTF-8 --no-renames --after=2016-01-21 | gource --log-format git -a 1 -1920x1080 -o gource.ppm -
21:07 pastebot          "wizzyrea" at pasted "This is interesting. And probably not necessary." (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/270
21:07 wizzyrea          geek_cl: did you update your translations?
21:07 geek_cl           looks like not
21:11 rangi             ffmpeg -y -r 60 -f image2pipe -vcodec ppm -i gource.ppm -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -vf scale=1920:1080 -pix_fmt yuv420p -crf 1 -threads 0 -bf 0 gource.mp4
21:13 rangi             sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mc3man/trusty-media
21:13 rangi             sudo apt-get update
21:22 rangi             students: http://audionautix.com/ http://freemusicarchive.org/ http://ccmixter.org/
21:33 cait              hm bug 15579 looks like an easy sign off :)
21:33 huginn`           04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15579 blocker, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , records_batchmod permission doesn't allow access to batch modification
21:41 rangi             students: we'll work on this until about 12, then we will tidy up and do some quick notes for the presentation, then pizza at 1, presentations, then the capture the flag
21:47 Francesca         rangi: sounds like a great day - wish I was there
22:03 clover            https://youtu.be/KmuF1c9CVSY
22:14 clover            https://youtu.be/cb5_rprIh7I
22:16 rangi             ^^ check that out
22:16 wizzyrea          nice1
22:16 wizzyrea          !
22:30 clover            oh hai all
22:31 * clover          is bad, leaving my laptop unlocked
22:31 dcook             Mmm pizza at 1
22:31 clover            please tell me off
22:31 dcook             hehe
22:32 clover            oops
22:32 Francesca         hahaha
22:32 * Francesca       would like pizza too\
22:33 dcook             I was really craving pizza yesterday as well >_>
22:33 Francesca         lol
22:33 dcook             Surely no one would notice if I got on a quick plane to Wellington and back..
22:33 Francesca         well I'm home sick or else I would be at the academy today
22:33 dcook             Ah right. Darned sickness
22:33 Francesca         dcook: I wish you well in getting on a plane just to get pizza
22:39 cait              students++
22:44 pianohacker_DND   does anybody remember why plack is restricted to Apache 2.4.8+?
22:44 cait              hm shoudl be in one of the bug discussions
22:44 cait              pianohacker_DND: try to talk  to tcohen
22:44 cait              I think he will know for sure
22:45 pianohacker_DND   yeah, found it on the bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=41866
23:07 dcook             Francesca: Too busy now dealing with horribleness
23:07 Francesca         oh dear
23:07 Francesca         what kind of horribleness?
23:07 dcook             Closed source system... makes me wish everything was open source...
23:07 Francesca         wow
23:07 Francesca         you sound like you need pizza
23:07 Francesca         or something like this
23:07 clover            I'm back doing silly things
23:07 Francesca         @bartender dcook
23:08 * huginn`         fills a pint glass with Dos Equis Special Lager, and sends it sliding down the bar to dcook (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/57/1907/)
23:08 Francesca         clover: what kind of silly things
23:08 clover            ian likes to hack peoples xchat when they forget to lock it
23:09 clover            aka me
23:09 Francesca         nice
23:09 Francesca         hi ian
23:37 clover            would anyone know why there would be a code to strip the white space only with the transforms?
23:38 rangi             clover: you  mean transfers?
23:38 clover            yes
23:42 pianohacker_DND   ... is it a known bug that MEMCACHED_SERVERS isn't passed into plack, or am I doing something crazy?
23:50 pianohacker_DND   O_o
23:51 pianohacker_DND   rangi: plack prevents anything that depends on SetEnv from working, correct?
23:53 rangi             pretty much
23:53 pianohacker_DND   oh god
23:54 pianohacker_DND   well, that means we've lost not just memcached but branch-specific css and search limits
23:54 pianohacker_DND   kind of a showstopper for deployment :/
23:54 pianohacker_DND   (and syspref overrides)
23:55 * pianohacker_DND goes back in hole
23:55 rangi             you can check it, be just warning $ENV
23:56 rangi             maybe with data::dumper
23:56 rangi             sorry warn Dumper \%ENV;
23:56 rangi             see what is actually set
23:57 pianohacker_DND   I think I have, and it kind of makes sense that it'd be broken. We're just doing an HTTP proxy, there's no reason starman's ENV would be affected by apache's
23:57 rangi             in just opac-main.pl or something .. then it should be in the plack error log .. in theory :)
23:59 rangi             yeah