Time  Nick          Message
23:54 huginn        pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
23:54 pianohacker   @later tell cait I can't find anything similar to bug 13937, but I'm not sure I'm looking in the right place
23:12 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Adding releases and fixing some missing tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f59cbb74e131a6002bd7f1cd1e6ee59720c8edf3>
23:05 cait          with hte patch obsoleted
23:05 cait          or reset to new
23:05 cait          i think you can either set pushed to master
23:05 pianohacker   (not sure since it's a weird bug)
23:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
23:05 pianohacker   oh, hey. cait: I should set bug 7143 to pushed to master when I do so, right?
22:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15511 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Tabbed fines display on OPAC patron summary page broken
22:05 cait          wizzyrea: i will have a patch :) bug 15511
22:01 wahanui       gmcharlt: I forgot not all of them
22:01 gmcharlt      wahanui: forget not all of them
22:01 wahanui       not all of them are even actually issues...
22:01 cait          but not all of them
21:58 cait          variables got changed
21:58 cait          BORROWER_INFO.amountoutstanding vs. BORROWER_INF.amountoutstanding
21:58 cait          hm i tihk i see what happened, but not when and why
21:55 wizzyrea      so let me sort that little problem out
21:55 wizzyrea      that seems wrong but I'm having trouble logging into the opac at all at the moment
21:52 cait          so i think it might not be intentional.. but hm
21:52 cait          the fines appear separately and jump up and down when changing tabs...
21:52 cait          the first summary page
21:52 wizzyrea      oh
21:52 cait          the opac one
21:52 wizzyrea      which patron account page?
21:51 wizzyrea      cait: not sure what you're referring to there
21:50 wizzyrea      and those are pretty much untranslatable eh
21:50 wizzyrea      holds vs reserves is going to be an eternal problem.
21:49 wizzyrea      ugh, re-code reserveslip as HOLD_SLIP
21:49 wizzyrea      hm
21:48 cait          was moving fines out of the tabbed display in patron account intentional?
21:41 wizzyrea      also gmcharlt++
21:41 wizzyrea      yeah but ~30 of them were mine
21:41 cait          wow lots of bug changes today - 301
21:33 wizzyrea      ^ I giggled so much
21:31 wizzyrea      http://nerdist.com/bill-nye-reaction-gifs-for-any-occasion/?gallery=349607#gallery
21:24 wizzyrea      email bomb, sorry.
21:15 cait          thx gmcharlt++
20:29 pianohacker   no kidding: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars7.htm
20:23 wizzyrea      I'm surprised anyone thinks star wars needs more marketing
20:12 pianohacker   (you have to click a button, not just go to that site, but it's still a bit crazy :) )
20:11 pianohacker   if you go to google.com/starwars , it changes your gmail theme, gmail loading bar, youtube interface, and other things I probably haven't found yet
20:09 wizzyrea      ?
20:09 pianohacker   I did not realize how much stuff the star wars google promotion would change O_O
20:09 cait          nothing too bad
20:09 cait          just forgot to move my database dump that i wanted to keep
20:08 wizzyrea      or added to the repo
20:08 wizzyrea      nm, because clean gets rid of things that aren't committed.
20:08 wizzyrea      hm no it won't
20:08 wizzyrea      reflog might help there?
20:07 bag           heh
20:07 bag           it’s git undo :)
19:59 oleonard      Bye all
19:53 cait          it's ok - nothing too important lost
19:53 cait          git clean -f -d
19:53 cait          i guess you can't undo a git -f -d?
19:47 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
19:47 cait          @later tell gmcharlt could you please take a look at the dependencies needed for bug 13618? (Fixing XSS issues)
19:43 pianohacker   cait: ah kk thanks
19:35 bag           :)
19:33 oleonard      Well done ByWater :)
19:33 oleonard      "Our previous provider had either not responded or responded and made us to feel silly for asking such a question." http://librarytechnology.org/news/pr.pl?id=21251
19:28 oleonard      Godspeed valiant time-travelers, may you succeed in your mission!
19:28 cait          heh
19:28 oleonard      Oh wait... Time-traveling IE users who were sent back in time to stop IE from reaching version 999.1!
19:26 oleonard      .03% were time-traveling IE users from a bleak future in which everyone uses IE 999.1.
19:26 wahanui       http://i.imgur.com/SjElkzG.gif
19:26 cait          ouch?
19:26 oleonard      25% of the IE users of our web site which were tracked by analytics last year were users of IE 7, 8, 9, or 10.
19:19 magnuse       oleonard: ok, will do
19:19 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
19:19 eythian       @later tell dcook start planning your party: http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/6/10722426/internet-explorer-8-9-10-dying
19:19 oleonard      magnuse: Just tell them I'm in Ohio. They'll be able to find me.
19:18 magnuse       oleonard: i was phoned up by someone from microsoft today, who wanted to fix my windows pc. i'll give him your number if he calls again :-)
19:07 oleonard      Haven't had this Windows PC crash on me since I don't know when. I guess I should be grateful it doesn't happen more often.
19:06 rangi         gonna be another warm one
19:06 huginn        rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (7:30 AM NZDT on January 07, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
19:06 rangi         @wunder nzwn
19:06 rangi         hi oleonard_
19:06 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
19:06 cait          @later tell tcohen ... ignore me - it looks like the default isbd format contains the html tags to begin with
19:05 cait          morning rangi :)
19:04 rangi         morning
19:01 magnuse       cait++
19:00 cait          i was just wondering, actually i am testing the xss patches
19:00 cait          when you look at your cart > download > isbd format
19:00 cait          tcohen wrote it iirc
18:59 cait          export in isbd format
18:59 cait          new feature actually
18:59 pianohacker   cait: who uses ISBD extensively these days? XSLT has taken over a lot of its use cases, no?
18:55 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
18:55 cait          @later tell tcohen - should isbd export from OPAC contain html tags?
18:55 eythian       Hello
18:54 cait          hi eythian
18:52 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 2.4°C (7:45 PM CET on January 06, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
18:52 eythian       @wunder Amsterdam, nl
18:40 Nemo_bis      :)
18:38 cait          I have no experience with fedora at all - so can't really say much about it, but i am sure someone will find it useful
18:37 Nemo_bis      (Currently only used once for a test server, will actually set up a server only in few days from now.)
18:37 Nemo_bis      Hopefully the install script for Fedora is useful for someone else too https://github.com/nemobis/beic-koha
18:36 Nemo_bis      I'm a wiki addict ;)
18:36 cait          thx for contributing to the wiki :)
18:35 Nemo_bis      hi cait
18:34 huginn        cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 3.0°C (7:20 PM CET on January 06, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
18:34 cait          @wunder Konstanz
18:34 cait          hi Nemo_bis :)
18:29 Nemo_bis      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.22_on_Fedora_23
17:48 * cait        waves
17:32 nengard       no problem!!!
17:32 npls          Thank you nengard. Much appreciated :)
17:30 nengard       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Query_MARC
17:30 nengard       yes you can :)
17:28 npls          Does anyone know if you are able to generate a report with, say, the biblionumber and information in just one marc tag?
17:22 reiveune      bye
17:09 Joubu         Have to run, bye!
17:07 Joubu         and you have added the other occurrences of C4::Service with Rancor, so it should be ok
17:06 pianohacker   Joubu++
17:06 pianohacker   sweet
17:06 Joubu         pianohacker: I have just checked letter and syspref and everything looks good
17:06 pianohacker   :) do you think there's any other places where we were having to do manual encoding fixups?
17:03 Joubu         But didn't find any
17:03 Joubu         Actually I didn't want to do the change directly to C4::Services to avoid regression
17:03 Joubu         No worries :) It's much better like that
17:02 pianohacker   Joubu: blamin' me for fixin' encoding bugs *sniff*
16:23 huginn        khall: The operation succeeded.
16:23 khall         @later tell cait I suppose 5609 could be closed, the multi-hold per bib is the only thing left that's being actively worked on
15:55 Nemo_bis      For now I tried cd /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl; ln -s /usr/share/koha/lib/C4 C4 ; ...
15:50 cait          brb...
15:30 Nemo_bis      I installed the latest tarball on fedora 23. The install log says "PERL_MODULE_DIR          $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/koha/lib" and that's where the files are. __PERL_MODULE_DIR__ doesn't seem to be set, but why?
15:29 Nemo_bis      AH01215: Can't locate C4/Output.pm in @INC (you may need to install the C4::Output module) (@INC contains: __PERL_MODULE_DIR__ /usr/local/lib64/perl5 /usr/local/share/perl5 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 .) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 24.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl
15:29 Nemo_bis      Hello. I've been fighting for a few hours with this error:
15:28 Joubu         the best option would be to remove the existing pref and create another one to display or not the export options
15:28 Joubu         we only display it if one of the 2 prefs is set, but that does not make any sense
15:27 oleonard      I agree with that logic.
15:27 Joubu         I think that's why we don't always display it, not a lot of libraries use it
15:26 oleonard      I don't even remember what the export option on the circulation page is used for.
15:26 nengard       i'm wrong :) hehe
15:26 nengard       you're right
15:26 nengard       nevermind
15:26 nengard       wait
15:26 nengard       oh
15:26 nengard       it's used for 2 things
15:25 nengard       http://manual.koha-community.org/3.22/en/administration.html#ExportWithCsvProfile
15:25 Joubu         "CSV profile when exporting patron checkout history (enter CSV Profile name)"
15:25 Joubu         no
15:25 nengard       sounds like you're talking about the circ page
15:25 nengard       is for exporting from the OPAC and staff client when viewing a bib or when in a list or cart
15:25 nengard       the exportwithcsvprofile pref
15:25 nengard       although I'm a bit confused - I think that you're mixing up prefs
15:24 Joubu         k
15:24 nengard       I don't know why we don't
15:24 nengard       I say go for it
15:24 Joubu         nengard: why don't we always display the export option?
15:23 Joubu         which does not make sense...
15:22 Joubu         you need to have ExportRemoveFields or ExportWithCsvProfile set
15:22 oleonard      Sorry Joubu I'm confused about what export button you're talking about
15:21 Joubu         ok, so maybe just add the csv list when the csv option is selected makes more sense
15:19 Joubu         forget that, it's only used for CSV
15:19 Joubu         Actually I am wondering how it can work at the moment, there are 2 types of export iso2709 and csv, but only 1 pref...
15:18 Joubu         format, fields not to export and... the csv profiles
15:17 Joubu         and, on click, open a modal with the 3 inputs/dropdown, to select what we want to export
15:17 Joubu         So I was wondering if it would make sense to put the Export button (bottom of the checkouts table) close to other renew buttons
15:16 nengard       sounds good - was thinking it was used and that it would remove functionality - but that makes sense
15:16 Joubu         so the best way seems to remove it :)
15:16 Joubu         it is used from the export tools (and the cmd line) but it does not match the pref at all
15:16 Joubu         nengard: it is not used correctly
15:16 nengard       makes sense :) hehe
15:16 nengard       oh okay :)
15:16 nengard       why?
15:16 Joubu         because it does not make sense, the user can choose the csv he wants in the dropdown list
15:15 Joubu         I am looking at removing the ExportCsvprofiles pref
15:15 oleonard      :)
15:15 Joubu         cool, hi!
15:15 oleonard      yes
15:15 Joubu         oleonard: around?
15:01 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 15478 - Checksum mismatch when regenerating schema" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bf0d0bda44c2c4e6f01a3dc786c90407d086b36> / Revert "Bug 15478 - Update the remaining schema files that do not match the db schema" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=03c85f64c353eba07fb2eda475f534b31a85b8f0>
14:48 khall         Joubu: I'll revert those, they should not have been pushed
14:47 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12375 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Store serials enumeration data in separate fields
14:47 Joubu         indeed the 2 patches are already pushed, and the error jajm got could be fixed with the last patch on bug 12375
14:46 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15478 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Checksum mismatch when regenerating schema
14:46 Joubu         khall: did you see jajm's last comment on bug 15478?
14:36 gaetan_B      bye
14:30 * oleonard    waits by the window for magnuse to appear
14:29 drojf         ohio
14:29 drojf         to ohia? now that you looked up where it is…
14:29 * magnuse     wanders off
14:28 magnuse       yay!
14:28 drojf         hm yes we need a non-europe kohacon after greece before we can go to norway and/or sweden
14:25 * magnuse     signs up for that, then gets out a map to figure out where it is
14:25 oleonard      If I didn't already have a full-time job...
14:25 nengard       true true
14:25 cait          bid is open... :)
14:24 cait          or a KohaCon in Ohio :)
14:23 nengard       yeah ... but it's time for some healing
14:23 oleonard      I think the Liblime debacle hurt Koha in Ohio unfortunately.
14:23 nengard       and speaking at their conference - if they have a conference
14:23 nengard       maybe some emails to the ohio library association
14:22 nengard       I was teasing :(
14:22 nengard       awwww
14:22 oleonard      yeah I kind of feel like I've been neglecting something :|
14:22 nengard       well get on that oleonard :) hehe
14:19 * oleonard    is disappointed that there aren't more public libraries in Ohio using Koha
14:15 npls          found it Joubu. Thanks so much for your help.
14:14 cait          hi drojf
14:13 cait          npls: yes, it's part of the framework configuration
14:13 drojf         hi cait
14:13 * cait        waves
14:10 npls          can you make the default values only appear on certain frameworks?
14:09 Joubu         yes, on editing subfields
14:09 npls          oh ok? Can you do that in the admin module?
14:08 Joubu         npls: you can define default values
14:06 npls          Hi everyone. Can you create custom workforms with Koha to save time cataloging? I know you can create new frameworks but just wondering if you can create workforms with information filled in.
12:44 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:35 magnuse       hehe is that a bad thing or a good thing? ;-)
12:32 eythian       magnuse: it was good 🙂 also visited Lillehammer for an afternoon. Not like the TV show claimed 😉
12:26 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12375 - Add new serial fields to kohastructure <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=078c262b7e71439b18f3a14740f02c26f860a348> / Bug 15478 - Update the remaining schema files that do not match the db schema <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f6b4a3a57044af2f847a4e7a40d9f7987d3f337> / Bug 15478 - Checksum mismatch when regenerating schema <http://git.koha-communit
12:26 drojf         lol Joubu
11:51 Joubu         IE v.4373 looks like a good answer
11:51 wahanui       rumour has it the next one is from you: 4373
11:51 Joubu         drojf: the next one
09:45 drojf         what is the oldest version of internet explorer supported by koha?
09:33 nlegrand      o/ LibraryClaire
09:31 ashimema      Gearman/Icarus.. /me thinks he should look at minion
09:30 ashimema      wow.. dcook had a long monologue there
09:20 LibraryClaire morning nlegrand
09:20 nlegrand      howdy #koha
09:14 huginn        LibraryClaire: The current temperature in London / Heathrow Airport, United Kingdom is 6.0°C (9:00 AM GMT on January 06, 2016). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.40 in 995 hPa (Rising).
09:14 LibraryClaire @wunder London, UK
09:11 LibraryClaire hi magnuse :)
09:11 magnuse       hiya LibraryClaire
09:10 LibraryClaire morning #koha
09:08 drojf1        i was promised de-ghosting
09:08 drojf1        hm
09:05 sophie_m      oups wrong chan :)
09:05 sophie_m      jajm : je peux rajouter MT 17874 à ta liste de tix St Etienne ?
09:02 magnuse       guess i missed him...
08:56 magnuse       hey eythian! how was your norwegian adventure?
08:56 * magnuse     waves again
08:49 lds           hello
08:44 gaetan_B      hello
08:36 eythian       (doesn't really)
08:36 eythian       I like how the wind chill makes it warmer
08:34 eythian       This is the coldest since I've been here.
08:25 drojf         at least there is more light now ;)
08:25 drojf         we got snow
08:24 huginn        drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is -8.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 06, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
08:24 drojf         @wunder berlin, germany
08:23 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 2.6°C (9:15 AM CET on January 06, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
08:23 eythian       @wunder amsterdam, nl
08:06 Joubu         Good morning #koha
08:03 wahanui       hello, sophie_m
08:03 sophie_m      hello
08:01 lds           bonjour
07:59 alex_a        bonjour
07:53 reiveune      hello
07:27 drojf         morning
07:26 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 06, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:26 magnuse       @wunder boo
07:21 * magnuse     waves
04:23 Amit_Gupta    hi all
03:49 dcook         Nothing like yet another bug in HTTP::OAI to make a week...
02:09 dcook         Just to the API
02:09 dcook         So you're not even getting access to Koha per se
02:09 dcook         And it can be restricted to just the appropriate APIs
02:08 dcook         So you have to register for your developer key and then you provide that to your client app
02:08 dcook         and harder*
02:08 dcook         In theory, that could make authentication easier for developers are harder for bad peeps
02:07 dcook         Don't know if anyone has mentioned that idea yet
02:07 dcook         Another thought for the REST APIs... developer keys...
00:30 dcook         Which is what we do for Zebra after all..
00:30 dcook         For my purposes, I plan to have each Koha client with its own Icarusd server...
00:28 dcook         They'll have have their own independent workers so it's all in parallel..
00:28 dcook         So the downloading tasks will write to disk... the uploading tasks will read from disk and write to an API...
00:27 dcook         Hmm, so maybe I'll use Icarus (in lieu of Gearman) for both downloading and uploading..
00:14 dcook         rangi: Gearman sounds great :)
00:14 dcook         Ah, getting into the guts of it helps... seems like you can poll for status
00:07 dcook         Yeah my worker is pretty simple too... it pretty much downloads the record, writes to disk, and then just signals completion
00:07 dcook         So you could use a global variable to keep track of things..
00:06 dcook         Ah but you have the callback I guess..
00:06 dcook         Although even then it looks like $client->runTasks() blocks..
00:05 dcook         To do that... you'd need the web client to talk to an intermediary daemon I think..
00:05 dcook         Then come back later and ask how those tasks are going now
00:05 dcook         What I want to do is for my web client to tell something to do 5 tasks and be able to go away and do something else
00:05 dcook         Which makes some sense
00:04 dcook         So if you're using a web client, that's only good so long as you stay on that page waiting for your tasks to complete
00:03 wahanui       interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
00:03 dcook         Hmm interesting
00:02 dcook         So long as your client remembers what they've sent
00:02 rangi         http://gearman.org/examples/multi-query/
00:02 dcook         I suppose that works
00:02 dcook         Hmm..
00:02 dcook         I just wonder if you could ask Gearmand for everything you've sent it without regard to those filehandles..
00:02 rangi         you have a callback
00:01 dcook         In theory, your client knows they've sent 5 jobs... so you just keep checking the 5 filehandles you probably have open to Gearmand
00:01 dcook         I guess maybe you just need to check your filehandle..
00:00 dcook         In a non-blocking way
00:00 dcook         Maybe task 1 finishes...  but how do you know it's finished?
00:00 dcook         Or you have 5 workers, and you start 5 tasks
00:00 dcook         You might have 5 workers... and you say "Oh hey... start Task 1"
00:00 dcook         Because you might not get the same worker each time..