Time  Nick        Message
07:37 * magnuse   waves
08:07 magnuse     hiya alex_a
08:07 magnuse     @wunder boo
08:07 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
08:07 magnuse     @wunder marseille
08:07 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
08:07 alex_a      hello magnuse
08:07 magnuse     @wunder thessaloniki
08:07 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 5.0°C (9:50 AM EET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
08:07 magnuse     oops
08:08 magnuse     @wunder wellington
08:08 huginn      magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:08 magnuse     @wunder wellington, nz
08:08 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
08:10 magnuse     i thought maybe i ws the only one working today...
08:10 magnuse     or trying to work...
08:10 magnuse     bonjour sophie_m
08:16 magnuse     kia ora cait and matts
08:16 * magnuse   feels less alone
08:16 matts       hi !
08:20 * cait      waves
08:20 cait        morning matts and magnuse :)
08:20 cait        working monday-wednesday this week - so at least i will be here
08:20 cait        to keep you company :)
08:33 magnuse     cait: yay! i'll take wednesday off
08:42 jajm        morning #koha
08:44 magnuse     hiya jajm
09:04 cait        morning jajm :)
09:35 mveron      Hi #koha
09:36 cait        hi mveron :)
09:36 mveron      Hi cait :-)
09:42 mveron      I need feedback on Bug 15429 (unwantedly changed values that are passed by reference)
09:42 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15429 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , sub _parseletter should not change referenced values
09:43 cait        marcelr++
09:47 Joubu       hi #koha
09:47 cait        morning Joubu!
10:38 mveron      We need feedback from native speakers for Bug 15288 - see comment 24
10:38 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Failed QA , Error pages: Code duplication removal and better translatability
10:39 mveron      Hi Joubu :-)
10:40 mveron      Joubu: I need feedbak from a Perl crack for Bug 15429 - I think I tracked it down but maybe you have a better idea.
10:40 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15429 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , sub _parseletter should not change referenced values
10:46 Joubu       mveron: yes you are right, it's very bad to change the values of the param
10:47 Joubu       and your patch looks good, this is the way to go (for a quick fix)
10:48 cait        Joubu++ mveron++
11:22 mveron      Joubu, thanks for Bug 14015 !
11:22 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14015 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Checkout: Fix software error if barcode '0' is given
11:46 mveron      Lunch!
12:45 tcohen      morning
12:46 cait        morning tcohen :)
12:48 tcohen      hi cait
13:44 mveron      t/db_dependent/Letters.t fails for me on current master with test 62 - can anybody confirm?
13:48 cait        @later tell gmcharlt could you take another look at the changed dependencies on bug 8483 maybe?
13:48 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
13:48 cait        ... and tht was the wrong bug number
13:48 cait        of course
13:48 cait        @later tell gmcharlt ... and of course i got the bug number wrong (always) - I meant 8352 :)
13:48 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
13:49 pastebot    "magnuse" at pasted "prove t/db_dependent/Letters.t" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/236
13:50 magnuse     mveron: ^^
13:50 magnuse     passes for me, but i do get a warning
13:50 mveron      magnuse++
13:51 pastebot    "magnuse" at pasted "prove -v t/db_dependent/Letters.t" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/237
13:51 magnuse     verbose ^^
13:52 magnuse     kia ora NateC
14:00 cait        @later tell rangi can you please add version 3.22 on bugzilla? :)
14:00 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
14:04 tcohen      fredericd: bug 15431
14:04 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15431 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , svc/checkouts dies due to undefined variable (13024 merge problem)
14:07 tcohen      @seen fredericd
14:07 huginn      tcohen: fredericd was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 2 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <fredericd> rangi: Do you have an opinion about adding a releasenotes field to Bugzilla?
14:07 tcohen      khall
14:07 tcohen      Joubu?
14:20 magnuse     should the sql files in installer/data/mysql/<langcode> have copyright/license statements?
14:22 mveron      magnuse: Found - It seems that db_dependent/Letters.t needs syspref LetterLog set to logging.
14:25 mario       morning
14:29 magnuse     mveron: that's what i have, yes
14:29 magnuse     cheers mario
14:30 mario       cheers magnuse
14:36 magnuse     oh well, time to go, more work on bug 9060 tomorrow. have fun #koha!
14:36 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9060 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Data update for nb-NO webinstaller
15:04 Joubu       tcohen: !
15:20 tcohen      Joubu: 8483, do u think performance penalty could be related to missing indexes?
15:20 Joubu       which ones?
15:23 tcohen      i didn't look, but as those tables are not widely used...
15:23 tcohen      the code doesn't seem to complicate things too much
15:34 cait        subdivDelimiter but delimeter.... sometimes we have awful spelling.
15:34 cait        2 params of the same xslt function
15:34 bag         morning
15:35 cait        hey bag
15:43 tcohen      hi bag!
15:57 cait        @wunder Konstanz
15:57 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is -1.0°C (4:50 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
15:57 cait        light freezing fog... that's a good description actually
15:57 cait        even tho friedrichshafen is on the other side of the lake... but... hm.
17:38 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
17:38 huginn      mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 6.0°C (6:30 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
18:07 eythian     @wunder gjøvik
18:07 huginn      eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
18:07 eythian     @wunder gjovik
18:07 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Stenslia, Gjovik, Norway is -5.8°C (7:06 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
18:07 burdsjm     Is there a way to tag a url in our catalog not to append the opac url to the front of the link?
18:08 burdsjm     https://catalog.dubuque.lib.ia.us/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=162076
18:08 eythian     That's where I'll be tomorrow. Good thing I bought a scarf.
18:08 burdsjm     the Gale Virtual Reference Library breaks with the added info :(
18:14 cait        hi #koha
18:15 eythian     Hi cait
18:16 cait        hi eythian
18:52 rangi       morning
19:18 cait        morning rangi
19:21 Dyrcona     kia ora, rangi.
20:23 rangi       @marc 710
20:23 huginn      rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a corporate name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8]
20:32 rangi       @marc 490
20:32 huginn      rangi: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8]
20:32 rangi       @marc 440
20:32 huginn      rangi: A series statement consisting of a series title alone. (Repeatable) [a,n,p,v,x,6,8]
20:38 eythian     http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/12/25/amsterdam-brewery-oedipus-wants-to-trade-beer-for-solar-panels/ <-- rangi
20:39 rangi       oooh
20:40 eythian     there is something of a requirement to pick up. So you should start figuring out flights once a year for the next 4 years.
20:40 rangi       heh
20:42 cait        ... but how to get it back?
20:42 eythian     checked luggage
20:42 rangi       cait could go pick it up
20:42 rangi       and bring it to each kohacon for me
20:42 eythian     that's true
20:42 rangi       hehe
20:42 cait        ... i am very trustworthy with beer... because... ew
20:44 eythian     they have entertainingly thematic beer names with their brewery name. Mannenleifde (googletranslate it :), and "mama".
20:44 eythian     also quite good.
20:44 rangi       heh
21:15 eythian     @wunder Amsterdam
21:15 huginn      eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
21:15 eythian     @wunder Amsterdam, nl
21:15 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 9.2°C (10:15 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling).
21:16 eythian     @wunder westerpark, amsterdam, nl
21:16 huginn      eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
21:17 rangi       that seems fairly warn for this time of year?
21:17 rangi       warm even
21:17 eythian     Very, yeah
21:17 eythian     Warmest Christmas on record.
21:26 cait        @wunder Konstanz
21:26 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (10:20 PM CET on December 28, 2015). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
21:27 cait        feels like the first really kind of cold day today
21:27 eythian     cait: shoulda visited Amsterdam
21:35 rangi       hmm is there are 5XX notes field that is hidden from the opac by default?
21:43 cait        not to my knowledge
21:43 cait        i think easiest would be to look at the routin
21:43 rangi       ill go with 590
21:43 cait        that gets the info
21:43 rangi       yeah
21:44 cait        i think it will output everything 5xx maybe
21:44 cait        into the title information tab
21:44 cait        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Biblio.pm;hb=dba72d903deb525250bfb8b633b88e2aa7b1b962#l1768
21:45 cait        hm right, you can blacklist some via pref
21:45 rangi       yeah i remember we added that, just wondering if we did any by default, thanks for hte pref name, now i can find it :)
21:47 cait        you got me curious
21:48 rangi       heh
21:49 rangi       nope
21:49 rangi       it's empty by default
21:49 rangi       ill just go with 590, and then switch that on then
22:00 eythian     https://blog.kallisti.net.nz/2015/12/amsterdam-dungeon/ <-- next in my series
22:00 rangi       heh what a cool idea
22:01 rangi       you're gonna have to make a new category for those :)
22:01 eythian     yeah
22:01 eythian     I kinda want to remove the category things
22:01 rangi       just use tags?
22:01 eythian     but wordpress doesn't seem to like that
22:01 rangi       yeah
22:01 eythian     that's what I'd prefer, yeah
22:05 rangi       i haven't been to either of those
22:05 rangi       i went to a bunch, all the free ones, cos I had run out of money :)
22:07 eythian     heh, that'll happen.
22:07 eythian     There's a fair few free ones around.
22:07 rangi       yeah
22:09 eythian     Next one on the list is the Amsterdam city museum. There I'll hopefully be able to get a museum jaarkaart, which should make the rest of the bigger ones cheaper.
22:09 rangi       ahh true
22:09 rangi       will you do galleries next? :)
22:09 rangi       i suspect that will never end, galleries seem to pop up and disappear all the time
22:10 eythian     I'm not even half way through the 'A' set. Probably by the time... yeah, that but with museums :)
22:13 rangi       :)
22:15 cait        :)
22:16 cait        eythian: you way up to R is long... you might not want to wait that long
22:16 cait        one of the R museums has a super nice library
22:16 eythian     well, I can go independently and then visit another time to write it up :)
22:19 rangi       @marc 506
22:19 huginn      rangi: Information on the restrictions that govern access to or the limited distribution of the described materials. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,u,2,3,5,6,8]
22:19 rangi       @marc 540
22:19 huginn      rangi: Terms governing the use of the described materials (e.g., copyrights, film rights, trade rights) after access has been provided. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,u,3,5,6,8]
22:20 rangi       hmm nope
22:20 eythian     http://www.techinsider.io/endor-holocaust-science-study-2015-12 <-- I'll leave you with this, and go to bed
22:20 rangi       @marc 542
22:20 huginn      rangi: unknown tag 542
22:20 eythian     off to norway tomorrow, after all
22:20 eythian     speaking of norway, hi magnuse. bye magnuse :)
22:20 rangi       ahh sleep well, and enjoy norway
22:21 rangi       hmm we are missing 542 in our default framework also
22:21 rangi       http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/concise/bd542.html
22:21 rangi       but thats the field i want
22:26 * magnuse   waves drowsily
22:27 magnuse     welcome to norway eythian
22:28 magnuse     hm, does it make sense to present "You are missing the <upload_path> entry in your koha-conf.xml file." as a warning to people who do not plan on using uploads?
22:28 rangi       yes
22:29 rangi       oh, actually no
22:29 rangi       is there a syspref for uploads?
22:29 cait        eythian: vacation?
22:31 magnuse     rangi: not sure
22:32 rangi       if there is some way koha can know they are not planning to use it, then yeah, not showing the warning is ok
22:32 magnuse     cait: nah, i think he is sent out into the world by catalyst to wipe out the koha competition, and i'm first on the list...
22:32 cait        aah and the new job is just a fake identity... that makes sense
22:33 magnuse     cait: i'm afraid so
22:33 cait        rangi: hm i think you might have to set up a a plugin - maybe we can just reword it?
22:34 cait        Warning: if youwant to use... do ... first
22:34 magnuse     cait: if i fall silent in the next couple days you'll know what happened
22:34 cait        ... ohoh... i might be next
22:35 magnuse     yup
22:37 cait        ... now i can't sleep...
22:37 cait        ever again. probably. well... more time for qa :)
22:37 magnuse     woohoo!
22:37 magnuse     cait++
22:37 magnuse     @karma
22:37 huginn      magnuse: Highest karma: "cait" (303), "Joubu" (276), and "tcohen" (227).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-26), "failed" (-23), and "<-" (-22).  You (magnuse) are ranked 12 out of 521.
22:40 * magnuse   catches some sleep while he can
22:43 cbrannon    Anyone know if Koha has stopped skipping holidays/closed dates?  We've noticed that items were due on a holiday.
22:43 cait        hm haven't heard of that
22:43 rangi       what version cbrannon ?
22:43 cait        have you checked usedaysmode?
22:44 cbrannon    3.18.09
22:44 cait        we have no logging for the calendar... so you can't find out if the holidays were entered early enough :( another thing would be a manually entered due date
22:45 rangi       yeah haven't heard of that happening
22:45 rangi       i'd check the pref like cait says
22:46 cbrannon    we have the pref set to "Calculate the due date using the calendar to push the due date to the next open day."
22:47 rangi       that sounds right
22:47 cbrannon    What is the difference between that setting and the "the calendar to skip all days the library is closed"?
22:47 rangi       skipping will push it the number of holidays that fall between now and due date (inclusive)
22:48 rangi       so it might be 0,1,2,3 etc
22:48 rangi       so if the loan period is 3 weeks, and the due date is an open day, but there were 2 holidays in between
22:48 rangi       it will still be pushed 2 days
22:49 cbrannon    So, skipping uses the number of holidays, but could still fall on a holiday if close enough.
22:49 rangi       there's a potential yes
22:49 cbrannon    Hmmmm....stumped then.
22:49 rangi       you have access to the db eh?
22:50 cait        cbrannon: i usually explain it as 'calculates in opening days' instead of calendar days
22:51 rangi       you could look at one that fell on a holiday, see the issuedate in the issues or old_issues table for that one
22:51 rangi       it might give you a hint what happened
22:51 cbrannon    I'm noticing the library that complained has the date, but no title.  I'm wondering if there is a hiccup in the table from an upgrade?
22:52 cbrannon    The other libraries show the title on that date.
22:52 rangi       could be, eyeballing the old_issues (if it has been returned) will maybe shed some light
22:52 cait        hm, i think we didn't do anything with the holidays in a long time
22:52 rangi       if they were all issued at that same branch
22:52 cait        so nto sure about the update
22:52 rangi       (branchcode)
22:53 cait        i know hter eis a problem if you use "" or so in the title
22:53 rangi       then you might be onto something
22:53 cbrannon    Well, I guess we should start by fixing those things, and then see if the problem continues.  Thanks.
23:00 * Francesca waves
23:01 rangi       hi Francesca
23:01 cbrannon    Ugh!  I wish there was an easier way to clean out old holidays!
23:03 Francesca   hey rangi theres a merge request still waiting for the dashboard
23:05 rangi       done
23:09 Francesca   font on the big header is readable now
23:09 Francesca   yay!
23:10 Francesca   I'm pretty happy with that unless theres other things you'd like me to
23:10 Francesca   do
23:10 rangi       nope all good :)
23:11 Francesca   sweet :)
23:11 * rangi     goes to grab lunch
23:29 cait        Francesca++
23:30 Francesca   thanks cait :)
23:38 cait        also aleisha++ :) sign-offs!
23:38 cait        and good night :)