Time  Nick        Message
00:55 wizzyrea    gmcharlt++ for awesome advice.
02:15 rangi       any bywaterians around?
02:16 thatcher    heybywater ?
02:16 wahanui     i heard bywater was a great place to work!
02:16 rangi       the git server needs looking at
03:02 mario-away  hello rangi
03:03 mario       the git server is good to go
03:04 mario       have a good night
03:05 rangi       thanks
03:13 bag         wow :)
03:13 bag         mario++
03:13 bag         @karma mario
03:13 huginn      bag: Karma for "mario" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
03:14 dcook       Read that as "bag o' karma"
03:15 bag         HA - yes - I give out lots o’ bags o’ karma
03:15 dcook       hehe
03:15 bag         That’s going to be my quote from now on :)  thanks dcook
03:16 bag         my wow was cause everyone’s been gone from “work” for hours now - preparing for a good meal tomorrow
03:22 wizzyrea    "work"
03:22 wizzyrea    ?
03:26 bag         those were air quotes man
03:28 bag         ah it was a hardware failure on one of the nodes.  moved to a different host
03:33 wizzyrea    ew
03:36 bag         wizzyrea:  have you seen the pieincakes yet?
03:36 wizzyrea    hm, I don't think so
03:36 bag         cool one sec
03:36 bag         http://iconosquare.com/p/1125639832994349113_12197591
03:36 bag         omg!!!
03:37 bag         http://iconosquare.com/tag/pieincake
03:37 wizzyrea    oh, pie in cakes
03:37 bag         :D
03:37 wizzyrea    no, I had not seen that
03:37 wizzyrea    I read pLeincakes
03:37 wizzyrea    and I was like, wtf is a pleincake
03:38 bag         turducken
03:38 wizzyrea    those look yum
03:38 wizzyrea    but with cake!
03:38 bag         amazing
04:11 rangi       hmmm
04:42 Francesca   hello
04:42 wahanui     salut, Francesca
06:03 eythian     @wunder Amstelveen
06:03 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in v. H. Goedhartlaan, Amstelveen - North, Amstelveen, Netherlands is 4.3°C (7:03 AM CET on November 26, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
06:07 Francesca   hey eythian
06:07 Francesca   hows Amstelveen ?
06:15 eythian     I don't know, I'm currently over Iran.
06:17 Francesca   oh ok
06:20 eythian     It's where I'll be in several hours though :-)
06:28 Francesca   eythian: thats cool, hows Iran?
06:30 eythian     From 38,000 feet it looks hilly :-)
06:32 dcook       select '2015-11-03 21:06:00'::timestamp at time zone 'UTC' at time zone 'UTC';
06:32 dcook       That has to be the stupidest thing ever...
06:33 dcook       The first "time zone 'UTC'" tells postgres that the string is in UTC
06:33 dcook       But then it converts it into local time from UTC...
06:33 dcook       So you need the second UTC to tell it to actually convert it back to UTC again
06:33 dcook       O_O
06:33 * dcook     twitches
06:33 * dcook     waves to eythian
06:33 dcook       Missed my complaining yet? :p
06:34 dcook       Guess how long that little gotcha took to figure out..
06:34 dcook       Of course, if Postgres were just set up to use UTC time instead of local time... that would be reasonable
06:35 dcook       That sentence didn't make sense
06:35 dcook       Boo Postgres set up for a local timezone... yay Postgres set up to use UTC as its standard
06:38 dcook       You also can't seem to get epoch from a utc timestamp
06:38 dcook       You have to get it from a timestamp with a timezone on the end...
06:38 dcook       And it's not smart enough to figure out a lack of a time zone is utc..
06:38 Francesca   hi dcook
06:38 dcook       yo
06:38 dcook       Just leaving before I fill the logs full of anti-postgres stuff
06:38 dcook       :D
06:47 eythian     A timestamp without a tz may or may not be utc. Postgres doesn't know.
06:49 * magnuse   feels sorry for eythian - on a plane when i went to sleep and still on a plane when i wake up
06:50 magnuse     same plane?
06:51 eythian     different plane :-)
06:51 eythian     This one is a short trip, only 7 hours.
06:52 magnuse     ah
06:52 * magnuse   feels less sorry for eythian
06:52 magnuse     how long was the first one then?
06:53 eythian     First was 4,then 14.
06:54 eythian     This is also the last.
07:01 magnuse     yay
07:02 magnuse     i had 2 12 hour flights from auckland to london, the last one was looong
07:02 magnuse     and we had to circle above london for an extra hour
07:02 magnuse     that is the longest hour of my life so far...
07:03 eythian     Yeah, we had to do a go round at Melbourne due to going weightless for a moment from bad weather.
07:07 magnuse     yikes
07:40 magnuse     Oak
07:40 reiveune    hello
07:40 wahanui     hey, reiveune
07:41 magnuse     bonjour reiveune
07:41 reiveune    salut magnuse
07:53 alex_a      bonjour
07:55 Oak         magnuse
07:55 Oak         bonjour Monsieur alex_a and reiveune
07:59 Oak         Hello cait !
07:59 reiveune    salut Oak
08:00 Joubu       hi
08:00 wahanui     salut, Joubu
08:00 Oak         hello Joubu
08:20 * cait      waves
08:30 * Francesca waves
08:37 cait        it's releade
08:37 cait        hm
08:37 cait        it's release day!
08:38 gaetan_B    hello
08:45 magnuse     @arewethereyet
08:45 huginn      magnuse: YES!
08:45 magnuse     \o/
09:08 Francesca   jenkins is down
09:26 kirtybs12   hey guys
09:26 kirtybs12   i installed koha yesterday and i am getting the software error when i try to open the login page at localhost
09:27 kirtybs12   ??
09:30 gaetan_B    hi kirtybs12, which error are you getting ? what did you install koha on and how ?
09:30 kirtybs12   i am getting this error - Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793.
09:31 kirtybs12   and i installed koha on ubuntu via the packages as per the wiki page
09:31 kirtybs12   thats one error , i am getting 2
09:31 kirtybs12   complete error - Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 25.
09:32 kirtybs12   and where is the server log file located?
09:33 gaetan_B    this i don't know, i have never used packages (altough you should), are you pointing your browser to localhost:8080 ?
09:33 gaetan_B    or just localhost ?
09:33 kirtybs12   yeah ?
09:33 kirtybs12   localhost :8080
09:33 gaetan_B    then i don't think i can help, maybe someone else will know ;)
09:35 kirtybs12   sure, thanks anyway
09:36 kirtybs12   any help guys ?
10:00 eythian     cait: I'll be flying near you in a bit. Climb a tall tree and wave!
10:50 xarragon    When I build stuff that uses "internal" functions, hidden insidde a module.. Do i write unit tests for these internal functions, or only for the externally visible API?
10:54 cait        eythian: heh
10:59 eythian     cait: I didn't see you waving!
11:00 cait        toally did, you need new glasses
11:00 eythian     I literally have new glasses.
11:01 cait        hmm... then you might have looed in the wrong spot
11:01 cait        visiting my dad currently
11:01 cait        anyway, landing soon?
11:02 eythian     Where is that?
11:02 eythian     Yep, about an hour or so to go.
11:02 eythian     Oh, half an hour. I'll be slightly early.
11:13 cait        eythian: howis the jet lag? feeling awake enough to get to your accommodation? :)
12:28 tcohen      hi
12:28 tcohen      networking issues :-/
12:29 * tcohen    might move to a bakery nearby to release
12:29 magnuse     go tcohen go!
12:29 magnuse     and ¡hola!
13:00 ashimema    :)
13:12 magnuse     kia ora ashimema
13:55 tcohen      happy thanksgiving!
14:24 magnuse     tcohen: happy releasday ;-)
14:24 tcohen      thanks magnuse
14:24 tcohen      almost there
14:26 magnuse     yay!
14:26 magnuse     @arewethereyet
14:26 huginn      magnuse: YES!
15:03 tcohen      and....
16:37 * cait      waves
16:37 cait        has it happened yet=
16:37 cait        ?
16:37 drojf       hi #koha
16:37 cait        hi drojf :)
16:38 drojf       hi cait
16:38 drojf       why the ?
16:38 drojf       ?
16:38 drojf       :D
16:42 cait        because it was missing at the end of my question :)
16:42 cait        has it happened yet?
16:43 drojf       what? 3.22? when is release time in argentina? :)
16:44 cait        not sure :) hopefully soon ;)
16:48 drojf       german release notes: "plack-unterstützung direkt aus der kiste". or maybe i will do that tomorrow instead ;)
16:51 cait        heh
16:54 reiveune    bye
17:26 gaetan_B    bye
18:49 tcohen      hi
18:49 wahanui     hey, tcohen
18:51 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Koha 3.22 and beyond <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a225d7a2048d8c7ee6b1b550e829b143eff5a4d1> / Release notes for 3.22 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=efd2f8c37cd69ab2ab3d7823893240a058ab2e91> / Translation updates for Koha 3.22.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=546593b234ace8403a477ff7db7b953bb5f8b91c>
18:51 tcohen      rangi: sort of, I wasn't sending the announcement yet (had to leave) so I didn't push master for people not to notice it until I have the announcement ready
18:58 rangi       @later tell fredericd sorry I think I have mislaid your ssh key, could you please send it again
18:58 huginn      rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:28 cait        ah, now i missed tcohen
19:34 magnuse     but we have a 3.22!
19:34 cait        confetti!
19:34 wahanui     i heard confetti was https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif
19:34 cait        confetti!
19:34 wahanui     confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
19:34 cait        confetti!
19:34 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:34 magnuse     confetti!
19:34 wahanui     well, confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
19:34 cait        aah :)
19:34 magnuse     confetti!
19:34 wahanui     hmmm... confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif
19:34 magnuse     confetti!
19:34 wahanui     confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif
19:35 magnuse     confetti!
19:35 wahanui     confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif
19:35 magnuse     confetti!
19:35 wahanui     well, confetti is https://31.media.tumblr.com/f53100e15d6190ade350c3d98b0ccd54/tumblr_n5soy8FDMK1tt9lrzo6_250.gif
19:35 magnuse     confetti!
19:35 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:35 cait        wahanui being stubborn :)
19:35 wahanui     cait: what?
19:35 magnuse     \o/
19:35 magnuse     yup
19:35 magnuse     tcohen++
19:35 cait        tcohen++ community++
19:35 magnuse     3 releases in a row!
19:35 cait        nice, new and shiny release!
19:35 magnuse     community++
19:35 cait        might be a record :)
19:35 magnuse     possibly!
19:36 rangi       its a record since we moved to time based ones for sure
19:36 rangi       tcohen++
19:38 cait        :)
19:43 magnuse     is anyone picking up the es work after eythian?
19:43 magnuse     kia ora tcohen!
19:43 magnuse     you are now a free man! ;-)
19:43 tcohen      hey
19:43 rangi       probably joubu and I magnuse
19:44 tcohen      i'm on 3g
19:44 tcohen      this has been the most difficult release announcement of the three heh
19:44 magnuse     rangi: nice!
19:45 cait        tcohen++
19:46 tcohen      community++
19:46 tcohen      cait++
19:46 tcohen      Joubu++
19:46 tcohen      :-D
19:46 cait        Joubu++ :)
19:46 cait        brb
19:46 tcohen      congrats cait
19:53 bgkriegel   tcohen++
19:56 magnuse     bgkriegel++
19:58 cait        bgkriegel++ :)
20:00 drojf       sure, release koha right when i am on the way home. now i missed it all :P
20:01 magnuse     party all night long!
20:02 drojf       alright then!
20:03 drojf       tcohen++
20:03 drojf       koha++
20:03 kathryn     morning
20:03 kathryn     morning/evening/howdy
20:04 drojf       oh there is till beta stuff left in the announcement email
20:04 drojf       Debian packages for this beta will be available soon on the unstable repository.
20:04 magnuse     oops :-)
20:05 magnuse     drojf: i saw a tv programme from somewhere in denmark where people greeted each other with "mojn" :-)
20:11 drojf       magnuse: awesome! :D
20:47 wizzyrea    more confetti!
20:47 wahanui     o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
20:48 magnuse     \o/
20:48 wizzyrea    tcohen++
20:50 magnuse     @karma tcohen
20:50 huginn      magnuse: Karma for "tcohen" has been increased 225 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 225.
20:51 magnuse     woohoo!
20:55 kathryn     congratulations everyone. especially big piles of gratitude to tcohen :)
20:58 magnuse     can we start pestering bag now? ;-)
21:09 cait        i'd guess so :)
21:09 cait        baaaag...!
21:13 Francesca   good morning
21:13 wahanui     well, it's morning somewhere, yes
21:13 cait        hi Francesca :)
21:13 Francesca   sup
21:54 wizzyrea    magnuse, about?
21:55 cait        kinda latehere now :)
21:55 wizzyrea    I figured
21:55 wizzyrea    I was hoping someone who had set up pbuilder was around.
21:57 drojf       set up for what?
21:57 wizzyrea    building Koha packages
21:57 rangi       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages#Configuring_Pbuilder  <-- used that eh, changing squeeze for jessie (but leaving squeeze-dev for koha)
21:58 drojf       i used violence to change it to jessie
21:58 drojf       i only remember it was a big fight
21:58 rangi       well this is a brand new one, not upgrading one
21:59 drojf       it looks much easier than whatever i did :)
21:59 rangi       :)
21:59 wizzyrea    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way I think he followed this one
22:00 drojf       isn't squeeze-dev unstable these days?
22:00 wizzyrea    and it seems everything should be set up right but it's complaining about dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (native)': native package version may not have a revision
22:00 drojf       i had that
22:00 rangi       ahh thats not a pbuilder thing
22:00 drojf       its the name you give the version
22:01 rangi       yeah
22:01 drojf       don#t have -1 or something
22:01 drojf       it drobve me crazy
22:01 wizzyrea    well we've tried several things
22:01 drojf       *drove
22:01 wizzyrea    I think that was one of them.
22:01 drojf       something like 3.22~beta worked ok, but it did not like -
22:01 wizzyrea    but will redouble efforst
22:01 wizzyrea    efforts
22:02 wizzyrea    drojf++ for having ideas
22:02 wizzyrea    rangi++ for always knowing things
22:25 drojf       good night #koha