Time Nick Message 00:00 wizzyrea I should scrounge up something to eat. 00:00 dcook Mmm food 00:00 dcook That is a great idea 00:05 dcook Hmm, I think my Kohas are too old for the WYSIWYG 00:06 dcook And the way we implemented it locally wasn't as good as the way we ended up doing it in 3.22 07:12 * magnuse waves 07:13 magnuse podcast with larry wall: https://twit.tv/shows/triangulation/episodes/225?autostart=false 07:15 magnuse podcast about bix::class with ribasushi: https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/363?autostart=false 07:18 magnuse s/bix/dbix/ 07:37 reiveune hello 07:37 wahanui hey, reiveune 07:59 alex_a bonjour 08:01 Joubu hello #koha 08:18 gaetan_B hello 08:18 wahanui hi, gaetan_B 09:42 Francesca home at last 09:43 Francesca @wunder wlg 09:43 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:30 PM NZDT on November 25, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 10:06 xarragon Hello guys, i talked to pianohacker yesterday about finding items based on a MARC record returned by SimpleSearch. 10:07 xarragon Apparently Zebra is supposed to add 9xx tags indicating the biblios, are these viewable using SRU and/or the internal MARC viewer? 10:15 vfernandes Hi :) 10:15 vfernandes Koha 3.22 is now fully translated to Portuguese - http://translate.koha-community.org/pt/ 10:16 vfernandes How can I add the Koha manual translation on the Portuguese project? 10:17 magnuse vfernandes++ 10:18 magnuse xarragon: i thought the biblionumber was always stored in 999$d or something like that 10:19 magnuse @marc 999 10:19 huginn magnuse: unknown tag 999 10:21 xarragon magnuse: Ah ok, that one I have.. 10:21 xarragon magnuse: I think he mentioned 95x which I did not have. 999 has two subfields which might be item numbers for this test book 10:22 xarragon My zebra is a bit b0rk at the moment, which I am trying to to debug.. 10:22 magnuse nah, 999 c and d should hold the biblionumber, not itemnumbers 10:23 magnuse they should always be the same, i think 10:25 xarragon magnuse: Hmm, ok.. But it looks like what I need. I'll have to doublecheck. 10:25 xarragon My test database is a bit meager so it could be fooling me 10:30 magnuse hm, shouldn't it be possible to increase the verbosity of rebuild_zebra.pl with -v -v ? 10:33 xarragon Ah, right... that's my problem 10:33 xarragon I was trying to call the zebraidx directly I belive, and it flat out refused to read the config file specified via -c, fatally terminating.. 10:36 xarragon magnuse++ 10:37 * cait waves a quick hello 10:37 magnuse hello cait 10:41 cait fridolin: around? 10:41 fridolin cait: yep i am 10:42 fridolin wats up ? 10:42 cait i have a patch that needs to a unimarc tester :) 10:43 cait bug 14636 10:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14636 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Sorting and searching by publication year in item search doesn't work correctly 10:43 fridolin cait: with plaisur 10:43 cait :) that's nice thank you :) 10:43 cait it shouldn't take long 10:44 fridolin cait: yep I try to do I today 10:46 magnuse gah. a full reindex with rebuild_zebra.pl just hangs after counting up to 801. -v -v gives no more info. rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh also seems to hang at the same place. anyone got any ideas? 10:46 cait hm a broken record... but you don't have more information? 10:51 magnuse nope 10:52 magnuse i found MARC21_parse_test.pl and made it not complain about my normarc setup, but it did not find any records to complain about 11:03 xarragon Regarding biblio, biblioitems and items. Is it fair to say biblio holds mostly bibliographic info from the MARC records, items holds mostly item-related info and biblioitems sort of straddles the two? 11:04 xarragon Or do you have a better summary of the contents of each? 11:04 xarragon Mostly just trying to remember it properly for once 11:04 jajm wizzyrea, fredericd, do you think we can backport bug 11190 to 3.20 and 3.18 ? i know this is a "new feature", but it could be very useful imo 11:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11190 new feature, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , sitemap.pl -- Generate a catalog sitemap 11:05 magnuse i'd say items is for item info, biblio and biblioitems should be one table (with bibliographic level data) 11:05 magnuse xarragon ^ 11:05 xarragon Yeah I just realized biblioitems is the one that holds the marcxml 11:06 magnuse yeah, there is a history of why biblio and biblioitems are separate, but i think the consensus today is that they should be merged at some point 11:07 xarragon And bibliographic level data is just the pure abstract description of a work of literature, right? No matter if it is an ebook, physical paperback or tattooed on someones back? 11:08 magnuse lol 11:08 magnuse not *that* abstract, you'll have number of pages, isbn etc 11:09 magnuse so it's a mix of the abstract concept and a very concrete edition 11:09 magnuse google for "frbr" to find how library land is trying to break that apart ;-) 11:09 xarragon magnuse: Ok, thanks. Would be helpful to know the domain a bit better. 11:10 xarragon Not that I need it for this implementation I am doing, but I enjoy understanding why things look the way they do. 11:10 magnuse this is library tech - everything is muddied and mixed and miscellaneous 11:11 xarragon Well after trying to figure out how to manually use the yaz client I am kind of hardended. 11:12 xarragon That was just a cournocopia of magic numbers, @-signs and schemas that made no sense until you had gone through it all. 11:12 magnuse :-( 11:12 xarragon Well it was all pretty logical in the end. 11:13 magnuse it was? wow! ;-) 11:13 magnuse for some value of logical... 11:13 xarragon But at some point it was.. "Gaaah, I just want to manually perform a search and view the result!" 11:13 xarragon magnuse: Yes, this is how you descend into madness 11:14 xarragon Well, blah blah.. I have useful work to do. 11:17 vfernandes magnuse: How can I add the Koha manual translation? 11:19 magnuse vfernandes: not sure, maybe send an email to the translate list? 11:20 vfernandes ok... ;) 11:24 cait we need a sign-off on 15242 please 11:24 cait tiny fix 11:24 cait bad bug 11:24 cait bug 15242 11:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15242 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Missing subroutine in overdue_notices.pl 11:30 ashimema he made the qa followups 11:30 ashimema community++ 11:31 cait yep :) 11:31 cait now need a sign off :) 11:31 ashimema in a meeting at the minute.. but if it's not done by the time I get out I'll do it ;) 11:43 cait going to the super market - will be back later :) 12:13 * fridolin found a drity bug on patrons search : Bug 15252 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15252 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Patron search on start with does not work with several terms 12:20 Joubu fridolin: please provide tests 12:21 fridolin Joubu: there is a long test plan 12:21 fridolin inside patch as usuak 12:21 fridolin usual 12:21 Joubu but no tests :) 12:28 fridolin Joubu: wat do you mean test ? UT ? 12:28 Joubu yes 12:29 fridolin ak oki 12:29 fridolin Joubu: I found the existing UT, i provide a patch 12:30 fridolin or if someone wants to do it, it wil be more pair programming :) 12:33 tcohen morning 12:33 tcohen wb Joubu 12:33 Joubu hi tcohen 12:37 Joubu fridolin: why do you remove the defined $var test in your second patch? 12:38 Joubu it will certainly introduced a warning in the log 12:38 Joubu -d 12:38 Joubu ok forget that 12:38 wahanui Joubu: I forgot that 12:38 fridolin Joubu: there is a default value set 12:39 fridolin UT failes indeed 12:44 fridolin ahahhhhhh UT seams wrong : surchtype = 'contains' instead of 'contain' 12:58 tcohen Joubu: can u take a look at 15207 for QA? 12:58 tcohen I will release 3.22 once it is passed :-D 13:03 fridolin Joubu: I've provided UT 13:03 fridolin your right its much better 13:03 fridolin l like UT 13:10 Joubu it's a mess... 13:11 Joubu 14205 is pushed to 3.20, so we need a separate patch for the stable version 13:11 Joubu I had to update the FK in a previous dbrev 13:11 Joubu the easier way is to remove the constraint and recreate it 13:12 Joubu it avoids the SHOW INDEXES stt 13:12 Joubu erk 13:12 magnuse bug 15207 13:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15207 major, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Signed Off , Error on upgrade from 3.20.5 to 3.22 beta 13:12 magnuse bug 14205 13:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14205 major, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Deleting an Item/Record does not remove link to course reserve 13:24 * cait waves 13:25 cait Joubu: are you qa'ing 15207? just saw your follow up :) 13:25 Joubu cait: I am trying, yes 13:27 cait great :) 14:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11431: (follow-up) Update database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecad686d7425346d9bc8e017eba44ca7d25cad9c> 14:28 cait ashimema: you can now qa - i sigend the patch off 14:28 ashimema :) 14:44 mydsls hi 14:45 mydsls we have foolowing errors while upgrding 3.18.10 to 3.18.12 14:45 mydsls EV atomic update: hourlyloans.sql C4::Installer::load_sql returned the following errors while attempting to load /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi- bin/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/hourlyloans.sql: ERROR 1060 (42S21) at line 1: Duplicate column name 'lengthunit' DEV atomic update: oai_sets.sql C4::Installer::load_sql returned the following errors while attempting to load /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi- bin/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/oai_sets.sql: ERRO 14:45 mydsls can anyone help please 14:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14298: Do not insert the permission if already exists. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a28cd52f15d82c772258f059d9439289a6f554c4> 14:46 mydsls sophia_m can you help me? 14:47 Joubu mydsls: it will be fixed in the next 3.18 version 14:47 Joubu it does not hurt 14:47 mydsls accepteble 14:47 mydsls ? 14:47 mydsls no to worry? 14:48 Joubu no, don't worry :) 14:48 Joubu it is fixed by commit 24613ec9a5c466504288dca6360d8e53f1cda278 14:48 mydsls thanks joubu 15:38 Joubu tcohen: around? 15:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15242: Missing subroutine in overdue_notices.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=571f10b83989de8ceceabbc992aaad9287ba5023> / Bug 15207: Avoid warnings when adding constraint course_reserves_ibfk_2 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2a5610ccee3aa395012c4bb827707d6a8f2731f> 15:51 fridolin cait: I cant test Bug 14636 in UNIMARC, there is an error in template, see last note 15:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14636 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Sorting and searching by publication year in item search doesn't work correctly 15:51 cait i see 15:51 cait if you provide a follow up 15:51 cait i can test that 15:51 cait i have a unimarc installation i can update 15:51 cait i wondered, but didn't touch that bit - I had kind of a hard time to figure out how all the different files work together :) 15:52 cait fridolin^ 15:52 cait so you could sing off my patches and i will sign off your follow-up 16:01 fridolin cait: oki but the test plan needs my patch, how do we order it ? 16:01 fridolin cait: do I have to test patches one by one or all once ? 16:21 cait just put it in the end 16:21 cait we test them altogether usually 16:21 cait just call it 'follow-up' or something in the subject 16:24 cait fridolin: hm i think you need to change my patch now too 16:24 cait i check for 'publicationdate' 16:25 cait see here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=45120 16:26 fridolin cait indeed 16:26 fridolin cait: to test can I test will all patches applyed ? 16:26 cait can you add that line to your follow-up? 16:26 fridolin even if i sign only a few of them 16:26 cait yep that's what i usually do - with all the ofllow-ups we do it make the most sense :) 16:27 fridolin I was not sure ;) 16:27 fridolin i repush 16:27 cait thx :) 16:27 cait i have updated my unimarc installatoin 16:28 cait just waiting for your patch now :) 16:29 fridolin here we goooooooooo 16:30 * fridolin happy to contribute to source code 16:31 cait i think unimarc users will be happy too :) 16:36 fridolin indeeeeed 16:36 fridolin cait: sorry i have to g 16:36 cait ok, i will test 16:36 fridolin go , I'll test tomorrow 16:36 cait ok 16:36 fridolin if needed ? 16:37 cait yeah i think missing yor sign off still :) 16:37 fridolin okii 16:37 fridolin see u tomorrow 16:38 fridolin bybyb 16:38 cait hm 16:38 cait it does not work :( 17:15 bag morning 17:19 cait morning bag 17:33 bag cait http://iconosquare.com/p/1125639832994349113_12197591 17:33 bag OMG 17:33 bag pieincake 17:34 cait guess that goes ewll in a menu with turducken 17:35 bag yuppers ;) 17:46 cait barton: around? 17:48 cait barton: would you mind me creating a patch for bug 15250? i just tested - and you appear to be right with your notes and fix 17:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15250 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Software error: Can't locate object method "field" via package "aqorders.datereceived" in reports/acquisitions_stats.pl 17:51 cait hm 17:51 cait i will attach a patch 17:52 barton thanks cait. 17:52 Joubu could someone please test to check an item out to a patron without specifying a due date? 17:52 Joubu I get "Please confirm checkout" 17:52 cait yep, i can 17:52 cait anything special about the item? 17:53 Joubu I don't think so 17:53 cait no confirmation for me 17:53 Joubu ok... 17:53 Joubu debug mode 17:56 cait you will find it :) 17:56 cait dinner time :) will be back 17:58 Joubu ok, I got an issuing rule with the hard due date in the past 17:58 cait ah 18:18 Joubu bye 18:18 gaetan_B bye 18:25 xarragon So this 999 tag in the MARC records, is there an official use for that field? 18:26 xarragon I am looking at Biblio.pm, where it seems like 999c gets assigned.. some string with title/author/pubdate? 18:28 xarragon Or is that all done with the XSLT magic in Zebra? 18:29 bag xarragon: are you using unimarc or marc21? 18:35 tcohen xarragon: 999$c is super important 18:36 tcohen the biblionumber is mapped there 18:37 tcohen and the record id used for indexing (zebra) is grabbed from there 18:37 tcohen look for biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and you will understand 18:38 tcohen for authorities we use 001, but we should probably better stick to 99$c too 18:54 xarragon bag: It is marc21 18:55 bag yeah so what tcohen says above 18:55 bag 999$c is super important 18:55 wahanui i already had it that way, bag. 18:55 xarragon tcohen: Yeah, it's the biblionumber I am after. I am just wondering how 'reliable 18:55 xarragon 'reliable' it is; can I assume it will be there and always valid? 18:56 xarragon And thanks for confirming that it is added via the indexer and not in code, was grepping for '999' but came up with little 18:56 cait yes - otherwise zebra won't work and you got other problems :) 18:56 xarragon Ok, good enough for my needs 18:56 xarragon Thanks a lot everyone 18:56 cait xarragon: it's defined in the koha to marc mappings, so should not be in the code 18:56 cait unimarc uses 001 18:57 xarragon So as long as a I look at the type used (framwork code, right) I can use the field data then 18:58 xarragon I noticed most functions that juggle marc data has a 'framework' parameter passed along 18:58 kirtybs12 Hey guys, i just installed koha on my ubuntu today 18:58 kirtybs12 but i am facing the software error 18:58 eythian Hi 18:59 xarragon If I need to extract that field, should I just use the MARC::Record on the XML or is there a better/faster wrapper in Koha itself? 18:59 kirtybs12 when i try to open up the koha login page at localhost 18:59 xarragon (extracting from the search results returned by Koha::SimpleSearch) 18:59 kirtybs12 furthermore I couldn't find my koha-conf.xml file where it was supposed to be 18:59 xarragon Hmm... wait I might actually get a nice readymade structure there 19:00 kirtybs12 can i get some help please, i have been looking all over around for help 19:01 wnickc how did you install kirtybs12 19:01 wnickc packages? 19:01 wahanui i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 19:01 kirtybs12 i installed as mentioned on the wipage 19:01 kirtybs12 wikipage 19:01 kirtybs12 via the packages 19:02 wnickc what error are you getting? 19:02 kirtybs12 the first couple of time i opened up the login page , it opened up, i couldn't login though 19:03 wnickc and koha_conf is not at /etc/koha/sites/YOURSITENAME/koha-conf.xml? 19:03 wnickc you could try locate 19:04 kirtybs12 i am using windows right now so i can't exactly tell... but it was something like couldn't reference unblessed ...blah blah .. couple of errorr it shows on the login page 19:05 xarragon I know that error, stems from config not being found if I remeber correctly 19:05 kirtybs12 yeah 19:05 kirtybs12 and then i tried to upgrade schema 19:05 xarragon kirtybs12: Did it look like this? 19:05 kirtybs12 and it showed an error that koha-conf couldn't be found.... 19:06 xarragon kirtybs12: "Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /var/koha/Koha/C4/Context.pm"? 19:06 kirtybs12 yeah.... right like that... with a line number which was 793 i guess in my case' 19:06 xarragon http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian_Jessie_development_setup#Can.27t_call_method_.22do.22_on_unblessed_reference_at_.2Fvar.2Fkoha.2FKoha.2FC4.2FContext.pm_line_788. 19:06 xarragon In my case I had not set up the database correctly. 19:07 xarragon So not config file necessarily.. 19:07 kirtybs12 actually, it too have a feeling i have messed up the db, but i started from scratch today... so i have no idea what went wrong and how to set it right 19:07 * tcohen runs away to prepare some tar.gz to upload 19:07 tcohen later #koha 19:07 xarragon In my case I created the database manually since it was a dev. machine. I have no idea how the packages work 19:08 wnickc you could drop the db in mysql and create a new blank one and run the installer again 19:09 xarragon Yeah, I have instructions for how to do that on the same page: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian_Jessie_development_setup#MySQL_Configuration 19:09 xarragon But that requires you to be comfortable with the CLI and database wonkery.. 19:09 xarragon But checking the logfiles for the web serevr would be my first step. 19:10 kirtybs12 where is the logfile located? I too wanted to have a look at that but couldn't find it 19:11 wnickc should be /var/log/koha/YOURINSTANCE/ 19:12 kirtybs12 i will look it up once i boot into ubuntu, tell me smthng... can i drop the user table in the mysql db or is it necessary to pick the username from? 19:14 wnickc in packages you can "sudo koha-mysql INSTANCE" 19:15 kirtybs12 ok 19:15 kirtybs12 thanks for the help 19:15 kirtybs12 i will return after trying a few thngs 19:16 wnickc good luck kirtybs12 19:17 kirtybs12 thanks buddy ! 19:24 xarragon Yes, good luck 19:48 * magnuse waves 20:00 eythian kathryn: Hi 20:00 wahanui kia ora, eythian 20:01 * eythian is 34,000ft over the Indian Ocean right now. 20:01 liw eythian, hola! 20:02 eythian Hi liw 20:03 ibeardslee keep an eye out for Flight 370 20:04 eythian ibeardslee: I have an aisle seat, not window 20:08 xarragon In-flight Wifi? That must be.. not cheap? 20:08 xarragon And over the ocean it must be satellite? 20:10 eythian According to Google maps I've just leapt from Perth to New York. 20:11 eythian $1 for 500MB 20:11 ibeardslee that's not bad at all 20:12 cait hey eythian :) 20:12 eythian it's really good, though it's slow. OK for irc though. 20:12 eythian Hi cait 20:12 ajmlib looking for a bit of help, i was cataloging some books then suddenly the "new from z39.50/sru" button does nothing, restarted the server and client and still having problem, I can pull up a blank record if I hit "new record" 20:12 wizzyrea jajam - useful for sure, but it kinda breaks the rules for maintenance 20:13 * magnuse waves to eythian 20:14 wizzyrea eythian! 20:14 wahanui i guess eythian is an expert bot trainer 20:14 cait he misses us already :) 20:14 eythian Hello wizzyrea 20:14 wizzyrea he left here... 18ish hours ago and wellington's been mopey ever since 20:14 eythian And magnuse 20:14 wahanui it has been said that magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 20:15 ajmlib nvmind problem miraculously fixed itself 20:15 wizzyrea woo for magically solving themselves problems! 20:15 wizzyrea though, that's slightly unnerving. 20:41 kathryn eythian ! :) 20:41 kathryn what are you doing up there? 20:43 bag heya eythian 20:43 wahanui eythian is, like, a kiwi smartass, or so pianohacker says 20:44 kathryn hehe pianohacker 20:44 kathryn hi bag :) 20:44 bag heya kathryn 20:44 wahanui kathryn is, like, on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG 20:44 cait hi kathryn :) 20:45 kathryn hello cait :) 20:45 kathryn ohhh man that photo, that annoying kiwi smartass... 20:45 eythian kathryn: I'm sitting in a seat in the sky. I am a Geek myth. 20:46 eythian Err 20:46 eythian Greek 20:46 bag Geek works too 20:46 eythian Stupid autocorrect 20:46 kathryn hahahahaha 20:46 wahanui hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask? 20:47 kathryn we should rename wahanui to eythian2 20:47 bag HA 20:56 wizzyrea hehe eythian. I think you are definitely a geek myth. 21:07 cait hm seems that http://manual.koha-community.org is broken - redirects wrongly 21:09 bag yeah weird 21:18 tcohen hi 21:18 wahanui privet, tcohen 21:18 tcohen hey wahanui 21:31 wizzyrea heh, sure does. 21:32 wizzyrea that is not a thing I have control over. 21:32 rangi i think its at the manual.koha-community.org end 21:33 wizzyrea yeah same. 21:36 bag I’ll text nicole 21:49 * Francesca waves 22:08 bag hey wizzyrea this is what larryb said —> the issue is k-c is now using SSL, and perhaps didn't setup their own redirect from http to https correctly? 22:09 bag for the manual.koha-community.org redirect 22:09 wizzyrea I don't recall ever setting up a redirect for that 22:09 wizzyrea for manual.koha-community.org. 22:09 bag ah here’s lari 22:09 bag larryb: 22:09 bag :P 22:10 bag yeah I know we don’t have access to anything in the koha-community.org dns 22:11 rangi be best to just fix the manual one to redirect to the ssl site 22:11 rangi doing 2 redirects just seems needlessly breaky 22:11 bag larryb ^^^ 22:11 larryb rangi I already did that. 22:12 bag ah sweet I think it works now :) 22:12 wizzyrea \o/ 22:13 larryb yeah, I think it's working now 22:16 xarragon Hmm... is 'us-ascii' = 'iso-8859-1', in XML::writer more specifically 22:16 xarragon I doubt it, since it encodes all my swedish special chars into HTMl entities 22:17 xarragon So I guess it is the original 7-bit character set? 22:23 dani1 Hello 22:23 wahanui que tal, dani1 22:23 dani1 I have a display question for anyone that can answer 22:24 dani1 where or where can I edit these links seen here in the catalog ? http://screencast.com/t/zrHomcDL 22:24 dani1 hello wahanui 22:26 rangi you can either change them with jquery, or edit the templates 22:27 dani1 agh! Perfect, just what I need to know. thanks rangi 22:28 dani1 don't want to mess with the templates, so I guess I will hunt down that jquery 22:29 cait dani1: course reserve and most popular can be turend off - if that's what you want 22:30 dani1 actually I have a migrating library wanting to turn off the "recent comments" and "Purchase suggestions" options 22:30 dani1 please tell me it's a sys pref ... ha 22:31 dani1 ^ not pictured in my link 22:31 cait yes both are 22:32 cait reviewson 22:32 cait OPACViewOthersSuggestions 22:32 cait hm not quite true sec 22:33 cait first one is OpacShowRecentComments 22:33 dani1 easy peasey 22:35 dani1 @cait++ 22:35 huginn dani1: I've exhausted my database of quotes 22:37 pianohacker cait++ 23:32 pianohacker cait: random things I've dug up from Koha's basement today: ModBiblioMarc seems to only update the 005 field when you save a biblio if the record already has an 005. That seems silly to me, thoughtss? 23:33 cait um 23:33 cait not sure i understand yet 23:33 cait is 005 the timestamp? 23:33 pianohacker yar 23:33 cait hm yeah then it seems silly 23:33 pianohacker glad you agree :) 23:33 cait i think records created in koha iwll always have a 005 - so that would mostly affect imported records? 23:34 pianohacker cait: assuming they're using the default framework where 005's are required, yes 23:34 pianohacker (for records created in the old editor and rancor) 23:35 * dcook wonders how to reference the third line up 23:35 dcook ^3? 23:35 pianohacker heh 23:35 dcook Well.. that doesn't work now.. 23:35 dcook Yeah, I don't know why people leave off the 005 23:35 dcook Actually, I don't have anything meaningful to contribute 23:35 dcook On the plus side, I did manage to compile rsync in the end, although I probably will just use git-annex.. 23:36 pianohacker the real lesson here is that the old editor is silly, continues to be silly, and always was silly 23:36 dcook Now to compile a ssh binary for Android... dropbear failed this morning but.. 23:36 dcook hehe 23:36 dcook MARC is also silly 23:36 wahanui okay, dcook. 23:36 dcook You know what... I think I'll leave that 23:36 cait pianohacker: if you write patch, please include a test plan on how to end up with a record without 005 :) 23:36 pianohacker yes, but you don't have to add more silly to the silly sandwich 23:37 pianohacker cait: will do :) 23:38 pianohacker I'd argue turning off mandatory on 005@ is enough of a way, but the frameworks have had the label of "don't touch if you don't understand or you'll get bizarre problems" 23:38 pianohacker for a while 23:51 dani1 http://l2-staff.migrate.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=200965 23:51 dani1 love this kids name 23:51 dani1 Standing Bear Brandin 23:52 dcook ww? 23:52 dani1 opps wrong window 23:52 dani1 doh!