Time  Nick          Message
23:59 * dcook       should pay more attention to his own bugs
23:59 cait          yes
23:59 wizzyrea      I think so yeah
23:59 dcook         Did that get in?
23:59 dcook         or that
23:59 wizzyrea      or use the wysiwyg
23:59 dcook         Might not be a bad idea to actually run the HTML preferences through a HTML syntax checker...
23:58 dcook         I guess that's how one leaves off the closing </a>
23:58 dcook         hehe
23:58 dcook         d
23:58 dcook         Gentle pats are appreciate
23:58 dcook         :)
23:58 * wizzyrea    pats dcook gently
23:57 dcook         Same thing as yesterday for a different site actually..
23:57 dcook         A single missing </a> destroyed the whole layout
23:54 dcook         Hmm, changed all the preferences... that helps :p
23:53 * dcook       shouldn't have stayed up so late last night
23:53 dcook         Wait, I'm an idiot :p
23:53 dcook         Also looks like you can't disable the log for system preferences... but there are no logs for the past 5 years :S
23:52 dcook         That's weird..
23:52 dcook         Actually, it looks like they're on?
23:52 cait          ah
23:51 dcook         It looks like the logs are turned off :(
23:51 cait          dcook: hm but shoudn't it be in the logs?
23:51 dcook         Actually the second support call regarding malformed HTML in two days..
23:50 dcook         That feeling when someone changes a HTML system preference and busts things, and there is no action_logs to let you find it easily..
23:40 pianohacker   (within urxvt)
23:40 pianohacker   ahhhhhh, I've wanted this for years; I now have automatic switching between line/block cursor in insert/command mode in both vim and zsh-vi-mode... within tmux
23:40 dcook         https://github.com/joeyh/git-annex last commit was 4 hours ago... so I'm guessing yes
23:40 dcook         Or might be working on the core..
23:39 dcook         https://campaign.joeyh.name/blog/the_gift_that_kept_on_giving/
23:39 dcook         Ahh, looks like he is still working on the git-annex core. Just not really on the webapp or assistant.
23:39 dcook         Sweet :)
23:39 pianohacker   trea++
23:39 rangi         i pretty much just forget ive got it
23:38 rangi         i havent noticed it being a problem
23:37 dcook         I imagine this could kill your battery?
23:37 dcook         rangi: How often does it try to sync?
23:32 dcook         So a bit newer than the latest targeted release
23:32 bag           happy birthday thatcher
23:32 dcook         Ah nice
23:31 rangi         5.1
23:31 dcook         What Android version are you running?
23:31 rangi         most likely yeah, i havent had any issues
23:30 dcook         It says Android is still in beta, but I imagine it must be a case of it being feature complete overall?
23:30 rangi         its pretty much feature complete
23:29 dcook         Hmm, looks like development halted bacck in April 2014 though..
23:25 dcook         rangi++
23:25 dcook         Ohh... that is a handy screencast...
23:17 wizzyrea      that bug though.
23:13 dcook         Maybe I'm reading these instructions wrong..
23:13 dcook         Hmm the git-annex archiving doesn't seem to be a thing for Android unless you're using Amazon Glacier...
23:10 dcook         Love when people smarter than me do things that I want done
23:10 dcook         Mmm love the shared secret. That's something I wanted to do as well..
23:06 dcook         Actually I'm not even going to go down that rabbit hole..
23:06 dcook         So he wrote the thing in Haskell... pre-processes with CPP... and compiles it to C in the end? :S
23:05 cait          it took a while to figure that one out
23:05 cait          i know right? :)
23:03 huginn        04Bug 13505: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No advanced constraints for subfields $t
23:03 rangi         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13505#c2   <-- this is like the most corner case ever
22:59 dcook         I wonder if it actually uses busybox..
22:59 dcook         hehe... it comes with rsync as well...
22:57 dcook         Ooo even targets the Android version I want..
22:56 dcook         Ah, I was thinking Joel Spolsky. Completely different name..
22:56 dcook         That name sounds familiar..
22:55 rangi         yep
22:55 rangi         of
22:55 rangi         theres not much joey hess hasn't thought og
22:55 dcook         rangi: you've used it?
22:55 dcook         I like when people have thought of things :)
22:55 dcook         Ooo
22:55 dcook         I'd like to do dumps. If I wipe my phone, I don't want it to wipe the archive
22:55 rangi         too
22:55 rangi         yep you can have it works that it just archives
22:54 dcook         Mind you, I don't necessarily want it to be synchronized :/
22:54 dcook         cheers rangi and thatcher
22:54 dcook         I am still intrigued to the max
22:54 rangi         https://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/
22:54 dcook         No, but I'm intrigued to the max
22:53 thatcher      ^^
22:53 rangi         have you seen git annex assistant?
22:53 dcook         Photos and such in case the next time I go to the beach my phone is nicked or winds up in the drink
22:53 dcook         The idea is to schedule an rsync to run periodically to backup certain directories from the phone to a server
22:52 dcook         Well, so far, nothing
22:52 dcook         hehe
22:52 pianohacker   what the crap are you doing?
22:52 dcook         Found a git repo with a version of rsync that did build, but it looks like they've been patching rsync themselves for years... that's a bit of a nope for me
22:52 dcook         And the person who did kbox said they built an unmodified rsync, so I just emailed them
22:51 dcook         kbox, an add-on to busybox, definitely does
22:51 dcook         Actually, busybox might not... I think it does
22:51 * dcook       likes doing things the hard way for some reason
22:51 dcook         But I don't want to use busybox :p
22:51 dcook         Yeah
22:51 pianohacker   dcook: busybox have rsync support?
22:51 * dcook       stayed up way too late trying to get it to work
22:51 pianohacker   hi cait !
22:51 dcook         Either of you know how to build an unmodified rsync for Android? :p
22:50 dcook         hey pianohacker and cait :)
22:50 * cait        waves
22:49 pianohacker   hi dcook :)
22:49 * dcook       enjoys pianohacker's cackling
22:18 wahanui       well, hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask?
22:18 pianohacker   hahahahaha
22:17 rangi         pianohacker: its an adblocker thing i think (that's the word im hearing) the t thing
21:21 wizzyrea      hehehe
21:20 pianohacker   that's a bibframe number of nopes
21:20 pianohacker   your troutslap opinions seem to be more a single firm "nope."
21:20 pianohacker   that's way too many nopes for a mere troutslap
21:19 wizzyrea      https://starsandstethoscopes.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/nopetopus.gif?w=300
21:19 wizzyrea      nope.
21:18 pianohacker   ... numeric error codes are old school enough to warrant an old school troutslap, wizzyrea, in my mind
21:16 * wizzyrea    is firmly anti-fishslap.
21:16 wizzyrea      no troutslapping!
21:16 wizzyrea      no!
21:12 * pianohacker looks around for the large fishbot
21:11 pianohacker   marcel, why did you use numeric error codes in Koha::Upload...
21:10 pianohacker   >_<
20:55 wizzyrea      hehe I figured wnickc
20:54 pianohacker   that's the silliest bug
20:54 pianohacker   hahaha did people see the post about $t being uneditable in the frameworks?
20:50 pianohacker   wut
20:50 wahanui       i am canadian
20:50 pianohacker   wahanui: wahanui?
20:41 wnickc        at the image, not your troubles :-)
20:40 wnickc        hah
20:33 wizzyrea      hrmph.
20:33 wizzyrea      is your zebra running?
20:33 wizzyrea      Is your zebra running is <reply> http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/4/27/15/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3414-1335553706-6.gif
20:32 wizzyrea      Is your zebra running?
20:32 wizzyrea      Is your zebra running? is <reply> http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/4/27/15/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3414-1335553706-6.gif
19:56 oleonard      Bye all. See you in a week.
19:36 bag           loves the JSON option ;)
19:36 bag           sweet
19:36 bag           awesome thanks much rangi
19:35 rangi         http://search.cpan.org/~srdjan/WebService-ILS-0.01/
19:35 bag           cool - I’ll ask later
19:34 bag           the one that we’re working on for overdrive
19:34 bag           sorry that’s vague-ish
19:34 bag           hey rangi is the econtent cpan module out on cpan?  or is that still in a tarball
19:11 pianohacker   yes
19:10 oleonard      Koha's interfaces are getting a little too out of control, pattern-wise.
19:09 oleonard      I look forward to seeing the proposed new design
19:09 bag           yeah oleonard what pianohacker should totally help that problem - I agree it’s way too unwieldily
19:09 oleonard      Great
19:08 pianohacker   I'm _so excited_ to start it
19:08 pianohacker   rfc before the end of the year
19:08 pianohacker   oleonard: we have a dev on the horizon to improve that and the backend behind it drastically
19:08 rangi         it sure is
18:56 oleonard      Wow it's really time to rethink that wide-ass table for setting circulation rules
17:34 bag           hi
17:30 tcohen        hi
17:29 oleonard      Anyone else get that?
17:29 oleonard      Every once in a while we get an item which is on hold for someone but no notification comes up when we check it in.
17:13 gaetan_B      bonne soiréebye
17:10 xarragon      back soon, need to catch train home
17:09 xarragon      pianohacker: I don't seem to have much in the way of 9xx series MARC fields though. I guess they are a special class?
17:07 xarragon      pianohacker: Oh, that function sounds exactly like what I was looking for.
17:01 pianohacker   xarragon: it's updated as often as zebra is reindexed (which may be really often if you have the daemon enabled), but if it needs to be super up to date, it may be better to extract the biblionumber from the record using C4::Biblio::TransformMarcToKohaOneField then get the items using GetItemsInfo (in C4::Items)
16:58 xarragon      Well, I'll look at the XML contents before flapping my yap any further
16:57 xarragon      But does that info get updated and reindexed whenever item informatio changes?
16:56 pianohacker   it's not an obvious thing :)
16:55 xarragon      Wouldn't be the first time I have overlooked something right in front of me.
16:55 pianohacker   in fact, you can amend that "think" to "am 99% confident"
16:55 xarragon      pianohacker: Oh, that would be great. I have not looked in detail on the entire MARC record
16:54 xarragon      Not sure if ISBN is the best approach to map it though, since apparently it can have multiple numbers in it.
16:54 pianohacker   xarragon: I think SimpleSearch will return the item information, since it's added as 952s to the record when it's exported to Zebra
16:53 xarragon      My hope was that the getRecords function would return it, since it took like half the known universe as parameters
16:53 xarragon      Since the OPAC details page shows item info anyway.
16:52 xarragon      People here directed me towards SimpleSearch, but I only get the MARC record. I need to map it the items database somehow (using ISBN was my first idea) but now I am looking to see if someone has already done that
16:52 pianohacker   ahh kk
16:52 xarragon      Since Zebra has indexed that field, I use that to look it up.
16:51 xarragon      I need to get availability info for an item, given an identifier in the Control-field MARC record.
16:50 pianohacker   xarragon: out of curiosity, what are you trying to do?
16:50 xarragon      Guess I can look at opac-detail since it lists holds?
16:49 xarragon      Hmm, but I still just get a MARC record and a hit rating.. I need item information, is there som magic search that allows me to use the same input but get item info?
16:48 pianohacker   xarragon: rubber duck debugging :)
16:47 pianohacker   I think calling anything search.pm does "magic" is a stretch... more like dark trickery
16:47 xarragon      pianohacker: Sorry for asking, in this case it was just easier to debug it a bit i guess
16:47 xarragon      pianohacker: But yes, I does perform magic on it first.
16:46 xarragon      was just missing querytype = 'ccl'
16:46 xarragon      Wee, now I get results
16:44 pianohacker   and boolean operators get handled strangely
16:44 pianohacker   xarragon: yar, but it does a :/= replacement first
16:42 * chris_n     heads back out for what will probably be another 8 week hiatus
16:41 chris_n       sorry I can't be of much more help atm
16:40 barton        Ok. I'll give that a gander. thanks chris_n.
16:39 chris_n       you could have a look at the guts of PDF::Reuse and probably figure it out
16:39 xarragon      Now I jsut need to figure out what I get back
16:38 xarragon      Hmm, getRecords(9 wasn't that hard to use once you dumped the parameters
16:37 barton        hm.
16:37 chris_n       but local
16:37 chris_n       not embedded
16:36 * chris_n     wishes he could remember the particulars
16:36 chris_n       barton: actually, no; they were ttf fonts
16:34 xarragon      pianohacker: So I'd guess CCL..
16:34 barton        ah... those are probably postscript fonts.
16:33 xarragon      pianohacker: It runs that query through ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN() it seems
16:33 chris_n       barton: its been a long time since we made that change, and I'm not certain what to say other than the original code used the default set of pdf fonts
16:32 pianohacker   xarragon: ah, okay. That's not any of the above, but just the syntax Koha uses
16:31 xarragon      yeah well, I am just trying to figure out hjow to use getrecords.. But I am just putting warns everywhere now so i shiould have the info I need ina  few moments
16:30 pianohacker   xarragon: that's definitely not pqf (you'd see an @attr in there), but I always forget which of ccl/cql uses colons
16:29 chris_n       they were very basic and limited in scope iirc
16:28 chris_n       at least that's where they originated long ago
16:28 chris_n       "built-in" microsoft fonts
16:28 barton        we recently upgraded a server/koha version for one of our libraries, now they're saying that the fonts have changed.
16:28 barton        I'm trying to figure out what fonts were used prior to the addition of the <ttf> ... </ttf> section in $KOHA_CONF.
16:27 barton        ohai chris_n! :-)
16:26 * chris_n     looks about
16:24 barton        hm.
16:24 huginn        barton: chris_n was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <chris_n> liw: LOL... my thoughts exactly
16:24 barton        @seen chris_n
16:22 xarragon      What kinf of query is this (CCL, CQL, PQF)? Control-number:12086320
16:13 oleonard      Thanks pianohacker, I'm glad to be back.
16:10 mtompset      pianohacker: That seems to be my impression too. I did get nullmailer configured for my personal account on GMail. The problem is the mail server I really want to configure it on uses a self-signed certificate, and that causes nullmailer to barf.
16:08 reiveune      bye
16:07 pianohacker   very glad to see you're back man
16:06 oleonard      Hi pianohacker
16:06 pianohacker   also, hi oleonard!
16:06 pianohacker   it's been long enough that the main thing I remember is that configuring postfix was far nicer than exim or sendmail
16:06 pianohacker   I messed around with postfix waaaaay back in the day
16:05 mtompset      So, have you played with email configuration, pianohacker?
16:04 mtompset      (oh, and switching to Debian)
16:04 mtompset      I'm worried about actually configuring something a little more secure than that.
16:03 mtompset      I'm upgrading the server to 3.20.x, but I don't really want to just follow some instructions online.
16:03 mtompset      We were running Ubuntu with 3.14.x, and I just followed some instructions online for postfix.
16:02 mtompset      pianohacker: I was asking oleonard if he ever had the pleasure of configuring email for his Koha server.
16:02 pianohacker   good note to come into channel to
16:02 mtompset      Greetings, TGoat pianohacker
16:02 mtompset      In otherwords, you kicked it into working, and just kept going because it was testing?
16:01 oleonard      I don't administer "real" servers mtompset , only testing VM's
16:00 mtompset      Have you ever had the pleasure of configuring email for your Koha server, oleonard? :)
16:00 mtompset      Greetings oleonard
15:56 oleonard      Hi mtompset
15:51 mtompset      Greetings, #koha
15:02 bag           morning wnickc
15:01 wnickc        morning bag
14:56 bag           morning
14:52 * oleonard    disagrees :(
14:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14821 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Don't show item in checked in list, when it wasn't checked in
14:51 oleonard      Oh, since Bug 14821
14:50 oleonard      Since when does the check-in screen not include not-checked-out-items in the list of things which were scanned?
14:34 magnuse       have fun #koha
13:14 oleonard      Hi barton
13:14 barton        hi oleonard!
12:54 magnuse       kia ora oleonard and tcohen
12:53 oleonard      Hi tcohen
12:53 wahanui       hi, tcohen
12:53 tcohen        hi
12:43 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:34 magnuse       well, i'll probably skip the conference and just get hamburg ;-)
12:34 magnuse       yeah, let's!
12:34 magnuse       moin drojf!
12:29 drojf         and hei magnuse
12:29 drojf         let's all go next year :)
12:24 * magnuse     misses hamburg
11:34 cait          next year. :)
11:33 drojf         would have liked to take part in a workshop. well, next year
11:33 drojf         *unfortunately
11:33 drojf         ufortunately, no. too many things to do, not enough time for a 3 day conference :(
11:29 cait          are you there?
11:23 drojf         it's lunch break right now though
11:23 drojf         SWIB is streamed live in case anyone is interested. http://swib.org/swib15/livestream.html or to play in vlc http://62.113.210.5/elbdeich-live/_definst_/mp4:livestream_360p/playlist.m3u8
11:13 drojf         hi #koha
09:26 cait          :)
09:25 ashimema      hugs all round
09:14 * magnuse     waves too
09:05 * cait        waves
08:30 mydsls        wants to upgrade 3.18 to 3.20
08:12 wahanui       salut, gaetan_B
08:12 gaetan_B      hello
07:55 alex_a        bonjour
07:48 fridolin      hie
07:26 * magnuse     waves
07:14 reiveune      hello
03:42 bag           argggghhh
03:42 bag           stupid streaming app is messing up!
03:08 tcohen        hey
03:03 bag           evening
02:19 wizzyrea      lol.
02:19 wizzyrea      er, hi.
02:19 wizzyrea      HI
01:53 tcohen        hi