Time Nick Message 23:27 tcohen mveron++ 23:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4502: Changing wording again... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=379329861d19b178f14d360d9fee2518a462d8a7> / Bug 4502: An attempt to make things more sensible. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fea7b9b4d444a6bdf3f1326c54eddd68670be7f7> / Bug 4502: Catch software error if no active budget defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff; 23:16 cait hi tcohen 23:12 tcohen hi 22:17 bag later BobB have THE fun! 22:17 BobB catch ya 22:17 BobB I'll sort the fundraising meeting date over the weekend 22:17 BobB I have to head out to a meeting' 22:16 BobB very precious indded 22:16 bag awesome! I’m glad you all had a chance to meet her :) very precious 22:16 BobB I can see us next year reading to her over OpenTok or Google hangouts :) 22:16 bag you can always read to her :D 22:15 BobB LOL, not yet, she's six weeks old now 22:15 bag err your daughters favorite book? 22:15 bag did you all read the wallaby book to her? 22:15 BobB we have the cutest granddaughter on the planet 22:15 bag ah one of those Calfornia massive cities 22:14 BobB wonderful 22:14 BobB LA actually 22:14 bag how was your trip to San Fran? 22:13 BobB hi bag 22:13 wahanui hi, bag 22:13 bag BobB: hi there 21:44 pianohacker light suffocation more like 21:43 bag 96% eh and you’re calling that a Drizzle :P 21:43 huginn bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 9.1°C (1:43 PM PST on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 21:43 bag @wunder pdx 21:34 mveron Good night / daytime #koha 21:19 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 21:19 Francesca @wunder wlg 21:18 wahanui afternoon is good 21:18 wnickc afternoon 21:17 wizzyrea morning 21:14 Francesca morning 21:12 pianohacker sounds like a good start to an afternoon 21:12 pianohacker that's like 4 double shots 21:11 bag pianohacker: mug of espresso - yes please 21:08 Brooke kitty feeding time 20:20 cait ? 20:20 rickx I see no end by missing tables 20:20 bag not I said the brown cow 20:20 pianohacker bag: now, how brown cow 20:19 bag pianohacker: now, hello there 20:19 pianohacker hi bag 20:19 wizzyrea hi bag 20:19 wizzyrea or if you have that many rows that need updating 20:19 cait on the server? 20:19 cait hm could it have finished anyway? 20:19 wizzyrea probably, but if your db is that out of date, you'd probably rather run the update from the command line. 20:18 rickx is there any way to modify the parameters of apache to wait until the process ends? 20:18 bag hi wizzyrea 20:16 wizzyrea it will likely pop you many errors since you've already started it, but those will be ok, probably. 20:16 wizzyrea wow I should finish one thought before I start another 20:15 wizzyrea it will likely pop you many also hi 20:15 wizzyrea you can run koha-upgrade-schema <instancename> from the command line 20:13 rickx or I can run the upgrade process through command line?? 20:12 rickx anyone know how I can increase the runtime? 20:12 rickx I'm updating the version of Koha, but it takes a long time and get an error Gateway Time-out 20:10 rickx Hello everybody 19:11 misilot no problem 19:11 bag sorry 19:11 bag also anywhere that you see {{git….}} you need a space on each side :) 19:11 misilot ok 19:11 bag you need to change {{git_fullname}} to {{ git_full_name }} 19:10 bag in roles/kohadevbox/templates/gitconfig.j2 19:10 bag we submitted a patch that was bad :( 19:10 bag and you need spaces around them :D 19:09 bag git_full_name 19:09 bag typo 19:09 misilot bag: i defined git_fullname in vars/user.yml but ansible is complaining it is undefined. Do i need to define it somewhere else? 17:36 nuentoter well someone may be able to help anyway, first of all when initially exporting my catalog, what format should that file be in? there is no default file extension in winnebago 17:32 cait not me, sorry 17:29 nuentoter Does anyone here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum and converting into usable records? 17:28 xarragon I guess everything is easy in hindsight. 17:27 xarragon But it is pretty obvious, the MARC-to-search-prefix-mapping is defined in the XML file. 17:27 cait heh 17:23 xarragon I need to use koha a bit more I think.. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail; ie: "Let's add some code!" 17:18 xarragon And to think I was sitting reading through the YAZ-client source code to figure out what I needed to do 17:16 bag sweet 17:16 cait ...this was the one http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/searching.html 17:15 cait and actually.. that was the wrong link 17:15 drojf later #koha 17:15 drojf time to go home 17:14 misilot bag: already use ansible for some of my infrastructure so I have that :) 17:14 cait not intending to spoon feed you :) 17:14 cait it's just easy to miss it - but really helpful 17:14 xarragon cait: Thanks! 17:14 cait http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/searchfaq.html 17:14 xarragon cait: You don't need to spoon-feed me. 17:14 xarragon cait: It is ok, I have the PDF 17:13 cait xarragon: looking the linkup for you 17:13 xarragon I was afraid we would have to add new perl stuff to be able to pass paramters for the searching of specific MARC fields. 17:13 xarragon drojf++ 17:12 xarragon big* 17:12 xarragon So bug thanks 17:12 xarragon drojf: But yes, I get the expected record using yoru search methology. 17:12 xarragon cait: No, I think I have to hang my head in shame here.. Though we started looking at the indexing process since we assumed to have to add a new index anyway 17:11 drojf xarragon: it's used to link records too. if you use 773/774 and use control numbers to link, the generated links in the opac use it 17:11 cait xarragon: didyou take a look at the search chapter in the koha manual? 17:10 xarragon drojf: if that is all that is needed it is awesome 17:10 cait i didn't expect that to be alocal use one 17:10 cait strange 17:09 cait hm 211 att 9001 Control-number 17:09 drojf xarragon: in the opac, a search for Control-number:<yournumber> should work 17:09 bag misilot: you’ll have to install ansible too 17:09 bag misilot: it’s nice you can vagrant up wheezy jessie trusty (all in one command) you get 3 different distros with master installed 17:09 xarragon drojf: But then figuring out the syntax for rhe search command, with all the parameter mappings, schemas etc. was a bit overwhelming at first. :-) 17:08 cait stocknumber is a differentfield in marc i think 17:08 xarragon drojf: But I kept getting error with the URL, so i switched to the yaz client to be able to have a bit more control 17:08 bag misilot: same spot - different branch https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/tree/ansible 17:07 xarragon drojf: I was playing around with the metadata (zebra::*) in the SRU yesterday. 17:07 cait xarragon: 001 is Control-number 17:07 misilot bag: possibly? All I did was $ git clone https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox.git; $ cd kohadevbox; $ cp config.cfg-sample config.cfg (set values); $ vagrant plugin install vagrant-cachier; vagrant up (and changed from chef to their new name) 17:07 cait 1028 is theattribute - should be something different 17:05 bag also misilot are you using anisble? 17:05 xarragon drojf: Ah, there's what I am looking for. 17:03 drojf you can also ask zebra what indexes are known. that does not really tell you what is in there though http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing 17:03 xarragon drojf: Right, I will look 17:03 reiveune bye 17:02 drojf you should be able to see the field numbers and index names 17:02 drojf maybe that link is better http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml;h=6b1fb87baa1a43544075de546bf178b6765bf1b9;hb=HEAD 17:02 xarragon drojf: I just need to know how to search that field then. 17:01 drojf that#s what it's for, AFAIK :) 17:01 xarragon drojf: Ok, that is exactly what we do with it. 17:01 drojf xarragon: what do you mean by reserved? it depends on the use, locally or in your union… usually a record would be identified by 003+001, eg in a union catalogue. koha does not really do that though 17:01 xarragon drojf: Ah, that file. i have looked at it here locally, thanks. i might go through it again now that I am more familiar with Z39.50 17:00 xarragon drojf: Yes.. Is that field reserved for something else? Or what does that entail? 17:00 bag ok misilot I don’t think it’s running then 16:59 misilot bag: no 16:59 drojf xarragon: does that help? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl;h=604c76a85648224d8d8d36e75ac81980b7b34f01;hb=HEAD 16:59 bag or try ps aux | grep plack 16:59 misilot bag: no 16:59 xarragon So I am not sure if Bib-1 actually maps BIB-1:1028 to MARC:001 16:59 drojf xarragon: 001 is Control-number 16:59 bag misilot: do you get anything if you type — ps aux | grep starman 16:59 misilot oh? 16:59 bag right also I think you have to use package commands to start up plack 16:58 xarragon Buuut, I can't seem to query it properly. 16:58 misilot bag: well it is complaining about it not running (which I cannot access it via localhost:5001 from the host computer) ... will try koha-shell 16:58 xarragon In Swedish libraries, we store a national ID in that field. That is what I need to look up. 16:58 bag I think without it you’re not pulling the KOHA_CONF 16:58 bag and then your tests will pass 16:58 xarragon So I looked over the Bib-1 definitions, and it seems Bib-1:1028 is called "Stock-number". 16:58 bag misilot: I think maybe you need to use koha-shell 16:57 xarragon We might want 003 as well, for example. 16:57 xarragon There was also a guide on the wiki how to add custom indexes. 16:56 xarragon I have looked around a bit in the XML stack, yes. I am after MARK field 001 specifically, which seems to be indexed. 16:56 cait starting with the xml file 16:56 xarragon heh, yeah.. well I know enough Z39.50 and Yaz to perform queries and inspect the result now 16:56 cait i usuallly look in the zebra files directly 16:56 cait you could probably write something to create a list 16:55 cait definitionproblem :) 16:55 cait ... easy... 16:54 xarragon Is there any easy way to view which indexes are available in the zebra server? 16:52 misilot should plack just work with the kohadevbox? not sure if I am missing something on setting it up. I can't get to it on 5000 or 5001 and cd /vagrant; prove; fails with the Plack tests 16:28 misilot question about kovadevbox what username and password should I be using for the staff interface? 16:12 nuentoter anyone in here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum? 16:12 cait i think he just left :) 16:08 tcohen :-D 16:07 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 16:07 tcohen @later tell mveron congrats, please get involved in testing your patchset, we have one week to spot any issues 16:06 tcohen i didn't mean to talk about that 16:06 cait tcohen: it's an old bug - the dateformat problem with fines we were discussing. the pref already displays a warning message 16:05 tcohen mveron-away: ? 15:52 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 15:52 bag @later tell dcook - thanks - I made the suggestion to nengard 15:46 bag morning cait 15:46 cait morning bag :) 15:44 bag morning 15:26 mveron enjoy your dinner. I'll have a meeting and I'm back in about 4 hours 15:25 cait making dinner, bbiab 15:25 cait but i think we can't fix that for now. 15:25 cait yeah... it doesn#t sound like a good idea to begin with 15:25 mveron Oh, I see... 15:23 cait and the fines code looks at the generated description and parses the date from there 15:23 cait it's messy 15:22 cait mveron: the dates are in the descriptions 15:22 tcohen cait: are you fixing it? 15:21 mveron Hmm shouldn't the table have the dates in iso format? 15:20 cait but it talks about 2 date formats... and we have 4 :) 15:20 cait maybe this could fix it: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl;h=470b84b1ae0b01f1022c458ec831507dcf61fa82;hb=87e7d5555e604043602de73c46b68d28299aefd9 15:19 cait i wonder if we could have a nice script doing it... until accounts are rewritten 15:19 mveron cait: There is a note about the date switching problem near the syspref dateformat. Thanks for the hint. 15:15 cait hm what about non-packages instances? is that file used then too? 15:14 cait you need to fix the todo :) 15:14 cait tcohen: (TODO: fix) < 15:13 cait in production instances with fines you have to be careful about switching the dateformat 15:13 * mveron will read back 15:13 cait did you see my discussion with kyle earlier? 15:12 mveron cait: I'm happy as well... finally... 15:12 cait 20.11.2015 15:12 cait mveron: this patch makes me so happy 15:08 druthb Just tell bag to hush, nengard. You're Serving The Community(tm). 15:08 druthb naah. 15:08 cait it's so irritating to see the dates like i expect them!!! 15:08 nengard pretty sure bag will have something to say about that 15:08 tcohen cait++ 15:07 cait nengard: you can just come to the room with us :P 15:07 cait tcohen: almost done with the dateformat one 15:00 tcohen (well, the integration into the packges) 15:00 tcohen with it, plack is production ready as far as I can tell 15:00 tcohen :-D 15:00 tcohen i need 1 person to sign off, and 1 person to QA 14:59 ashimema :) 14:59 tcohen i'm filling a bug, that I want to fast-track :-D 14:59 ashimema hi tcohen 14:58 tcohen hi ashimema 14:56 nengard and i can't give you khall and pianohacker ... i need one of them here :) 14:56 nengard hehe 14:52 cait ... 14:52 cait now i want to be INSIDE the room too 14:51 cait heh 14:50 ashimema and any other's I've missed out 'cause my fingers got tired 14:50 ashimema can we have pianohacker, tcohen, rangi and colinc too? 14:48 cait hehe 14:47 nengard we have 3 votes for :) 14:47 nengard uh oh - koha community seems to be planning on kidnapping ashimema and khall and locking them in a room .... 14:44 magnuse cait++ 14:42 druthb cait++ 14:42 ashimema haha 14:41 cait we'd even send in food... if you send out patches :P 14:41 nengard hehe 14:41 nengard cait++ 14:41 nengard i'd love that 14:38 cait can we look you 2 in a room for 2 weeks and sign of the patches falling out? 14:37 ashimema along with an auth rewrite 14:37 * ashimema also want's to do an account re-write 14:37 cait yeah, it should have never done that 14:36 khall some day I'll get that rewritten 14:36 khall yep, that's why the rewrite goes by issue_id and not the description 14:35 cait messy 14:35 cait mesy 14:35 cait so only for overdue lines 14:35 cait ok 14:35 khall you need to change just the due date and only the due date 14:34 khall If you change *all* /'s to .'s you'll end up with duplicate fines 14:34 khall ah, I see. A regex via mysql should fix that up 14:33 cait ah, i want to switch production installations from dd/mm/yyyy to dd.mm.yyyy :) 14:33 khall cait: I'm not sure what you mean 14:33 cait khall: do you think it would be enough to just change the strings? in our case we'd replace / with . 14:32 cait hm i have no overdues in my database... 14:32 cait ah 14:32 ashimema whilst juggling some non-blocking code I'm writing. 14:32 cait timeformatis the same 14:32 cait hm the time didn't change 14:32 khall what we need is a script where you specify a from date and time format, and a to date and time format 14:31 ashimema the db one yeah.. sorta looking at it.. 14:31 ashimema yikes 14:31 khall cait: I don't think so, it doesn't even take the time into account! 14:31 cait i hope we can work towards it next release 14:31 cait yeah i totally understand that 14:30 cait i'd really like to move our databases to the new format :) 14:30 khall cait: this is one major reason I did the accounts rewrite. The way it works right now it is "fragile" to say the least. 14:30 cait hm could the sscript we were about to remove be a start? 14:30 khall cait: not that I'm aware of. It gets even more complicated when you add the timeformat in! 14:29 cait ashimema: are you looking at the database update one? 14:29 cait khall: do you now if we have a script that works if you want to change your dateformat setting? bit worried becuase of the big bold warning :( Note: Do not change this preference on a production server with overdue items that are accruing fines. Doing so will result in duplicate fines! 14:16 ashimema but alas.. it was declared as too expensive with regards to dependancies.. 14:16 ashimema Man i wish were were using deployment handler.. 14:14 cait and thx for helping :) 14:12 ashimema cheers 14:12 cait for the plack one tomas might have a workaround - but he is afk currently and it's not on bugzilla yet i think 14:11 cait ashimema: bugs = not ready for sign off - although the update problem bug has some, i think there is a problem there people need to figure out. so good to take a look maybe 14:11 ashimema are Bugs new stuff since 3.22 beta? 14:10 ashimema whats the difference between NSO and Bugs? 14:10 ashimema in your trello.. 14:10 ashimema your looking at 12072 right cait 14:10 ashimema so.. 14:10 * ashimema needs an eye check 14:09 cait i just had an eye check yesterday :) 14:09 cait he thx 14:09 * mveron sends his spare glasses to cait... 14:08 cait i am lookin gat the last one onw 14:08 cait why can i never get any numbers right? *grump* 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy 14:08 cait and bug 12072 14:08 wahanui that one is down more often than up 14:08 cait that one. 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15207 major, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Failed QA , Error on upgrade from 3.20.5 to 3.22 beta 14:08 cait bug 15207 14:08 cait argh, not that one. 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15076 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Remove file misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl 14:08 cait bug 15076 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , (Plack) Stage MARC records for import breaks in Plack 14:08 cait bug 15032 14:08 cait i think 3 patches to be resolved now: 14:07 mveron hi drojf :-) 14:07 mveron cait++ 14:07 ashimema I jus qa'd it after her :) 14:07 * mveron had many date stings... 14:07 ashimema she spotted the typo ;) 14:07 ashimema cait++ for signing off.. 14:07 mveron ashiema++ (for signing off and for finding the typo: date sting) 14:06 cait ashimema: waiting for the status switch here to cheer heh 14:06 drojf hi mveron :) 14:06 * mveron cheers everybody on... 14:06 cait ashimema++ 14:06 * drojf cheers cait on 14:05 cait Die C4::Dates, die! 14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System 14:00 cait as i have roped ashimema in to look at bug 14870... someone interested to check 15207? 13:57 cait https://trello.com/b/U2qRMwJO/3-22-blockers 13:57 cait we are getting there :) 13:57 khall np! 13:56 cait khall: and thx for qa :) 13:56 khall thanks! 13:56 khall excellent! 13:56 cait khall: saw the test - will try to take a look in a bit! 13:29 * cait files a bug 13:28 cait is there a good reason we display branch and itemtype codes only on the return page? 13:27 cait and there is khall too :) 13:25 mveron Oh yes please please... :-) 13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System 13:25 cait bug 14870 13:24 wahanui not that is a probably - you'll just need to learn a few new techinques 13:24 cait hm not that 13:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add additional languages to advanced search language search 13:24 cait i am working on a sign-off for bug 15067 13:24 mveron Ok... 13:24 cait ashimema: was wondering if you could help me with the dates patches 13:24 cait mveron: it never was fully implemented 13:24 cait ah 13:21 mveron cait: What is the meaning of "Upcoming events" in opac-messaging.tt ? Is it really "Veranstaltungstipps" in German? 13:19 ashimema wat up cait 13:19 ashimema pong 13:05 mveron :-) 13:05 * cait waves back 13:05 * mveron waves 12:33 cait ashimema ping 12:25 magnuse have fun tcohen 12:17 cait oh good :) 12:17 tcohen so i'll be back in 2 hours 12:17 tcohen I need to go to the bank 12:16 cait you are too early.. i am not done yet! :) 12:16 cait morning tcohen 12:13 tcohen morning 12:01 cait drojf: ohok 11:57 drojf cait: yes 11:53 cait hm no khall :( 11:45 cait a later i left ages ago? 11:44 cait hm? 11:44 cait jm? 11:38 drojf cait: lol 11:34 drojf hi #koha 10:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (11:20 AM CET on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). 10:36 magnuse @wunder boo 10:16 cait and it would still be shorter than the german translation :) 10:16 cait i will take clear over short sometimes... 10:15 magnuse that would be very clear, if not very short :-) 10:12 cait hm or Proxy page for resources with restricted access? 10:12 cait or something like that 10:12 cait Page for restricted access 10:12 cait i tihnk maybe we shoudl rename it to be more clear 10:02 magnuse ah yes, i think the restricted page was for e.g. journal databases that use the referer to authorize access for users 10:00 magnuse ok 09:59 cait i hink ys, but it should not be so much 09:58 cait some kind of proxy page i think 09:58 cait hm? 09:57 magnuse huh? "opac.pref Restricted page" 09:45 Amit_Gupta heya mveron 09:41 * mveron waves 09:39 * magnuse hopes not 09:37 magnuse and do you know if pootle will be updated again? 09:37 magnuse ah 09:37 cait i think tomas said last night he forgot to announce it 09:36 cait nope 09:36 cait that's the day, when... 09:36 magnuse cait: do you know anything about string freeze? 09:34 cait magnuse: lol 09:18 magnuse translating - such fun! 09:12 mveron hi Amit_Gupta 09:10 Amit_Gupta hi all 09:09 mveron Hi again #koha 08:19 cait bbl 08:19 * cait waves 07:55 alex_a bonjour 07:53 fridolin bonjour all 07:30 reiveune hello 07:25 magnuse no string freeze yet? 07:22 * magnuse waves 04:15 eythian :D 04:15 dcook eythian: Anathema just popped up on my playlist ;) 03:46 wizzyrea (also that's not a project for today, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow ;) 03:46 Francesca bye! 03:46 mtompset and irma :) 03:46 eythian later 03:46 wizzyrea later mtompset 03:46 mtompset Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea eythian dcook ibeardslee Francesca mtj 03:46 mtompset Anyways, I should go get sleep. 03:45 mtompset Probably mention it as an HTML comment on the documentation page, so that it doesn't get lost in the anals of time. ;) 03:44 mtompset I'd keep back to 3.14 on the documentation page, but not lose those old files and create an archived documentation page which is unlinked, but provideable on request. 03:43 wizzyrea hm, I guess we had one 3.14 03:43 wizzyrea 3.16 03:42 mtompset I'd be tempted to create an archived documentation page. 03:42 mtompset What is the furthest back we have released in the last 6 months? 03:41 wizzyrea I'm wondering if it's time to retire those. 03:41 mtompset 3.0 link busted still 03:40 wizzyrea \o/ 03:40 mtompset French is fixed. 03:39 wahanui hey now now, sing this corrosion to me 03:39 wizzyrea how about now 03:38 wizzyrea it's not really practical to keep the wordpress in git. 03:38 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 03:38 mtompset documentation 03:38 dcook Hmm maybe not 03:38 wizzyrea mtompset: which page are you looking at 03:37 dcook Actually, is there a git for the website... I think there is 03:37 eythian wizzyrea: ^ 03:37 mtompset http://http//manual.koha-community.org/3.2/fr/ is missing a : 03:37 mtj eythian: cool, saturday arvo at HZ could be doable too :) 03:36 mtompset https://www.koha-community.orgfiles/2010/02/wayne-state-university-koha-3.0-reference-manual.pdf is missing a / 03:36 ibeardslee I've been getting early nights all week in preparation 03:35 mtompset Oh, who has edit capability for the www.koha-community.org site? 03:35 ibeardslee soft 03:35 dcook ^ 03:35 eythian ibeardslee: I'll probably just be wanting to sleep :) 03:35 eythian mtj: odds are I won't be in town on Friday but I'm having drinks on Saturday afternoon at HZ 03:35 ibeardslee he will probably be in town after whisky tomorrow 03:34 mtj hey eythian, giz a ping if you end up in town after work, tmrw 03:34 dcook Hurray for improving it for others :) 03:33 wizzyrea definitely not funsies. 03:33 wizzyrea not just doing it for funsies. 03:33 wizzyrea so that caused a bunch of re-indenting as well 03:33 wizzyrea well I also had to re-do most of the divs on the page because it wasn't done properly originally :/ 03:32 dcook "yeah nah" love it 03:32 dcook Well, not so bad if you're able to switch the tabs to spaces.. 03:32 wizzyrea oh jeez. yeah nah. 03:32 dcook That's fun 03:32 dcook Also when someone mixes tabs and spaces in Python source 03:32 * dcook hates re-indenting 03:32 dcook Ahhh 03:32 dcook Paragraph 222(1)(c). There we go. 03:31 wizzyrea I was just looking at a very weirdly nested template. 03:31 dcook wizzyrea: Hmm? 03:31 dcook I suppose it does with manslaughter vs murder too of course.. 03:31 wizzyrea tfw you have to re-indent everything just to understand wtf is going on. 03:31 dcook "Intentions" make their way into all sorts of laws 03:31 dcook Law is a funny thing in how vague it can be sometimes 03:30 dcook Christ, I can't remember how to do legal citations properly anymore... 03:30 dcook Canada Elecctions Act (S.C. 2000, c. 9) s. 222 (1) c http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/E-2.01/page-65.html#docCont 03:28 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 03:28 Francesca @wunder wlg 03:27 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Wilshire-Thornhill, Vaughan, Ontario is 11.1°C (10:16 PM EST on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 03:27 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5 03:26 mtompset How about I curse it now for you. ;) 03:26 wahanui i heard Interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 03:26 dcook eythian: Interesting 03:26 eythian but even a quick visit counts 03:26 dcook 37 degrees yesterday ;) 03:26 dcook I'm sure everyone I know in Canada will be cursing my name in about... 4-8 weeks if they're not already 03:26 eythian ah, I can't vote if I haven't been to NZ in the past three years 03:26 dcook I love Canada, but Australia is pretty good. 03:26 mtompset :) 03:26 mtompset Silly you. 03:25 dcook I'm an emigrant :p 03:25 dcook The five year rule seems to apply more to Canadians who are temporarily non-residents 03:24 dcook I don't have any intent to return at this time 03:24 dcook "confirm that they intend to return to Canada to reside by providing the date on which they intend to resume residence in Canada" http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=reg/etr&document=index&lang=e 03:24 mtompset Unless the politicians want to mess you up. :) 03:24 eythian they don't, once enrolled, always enrolled I think 03:24 dcook I haven't been gone for 5 years yet, but I still was ineligible 03:24 dcook The elections thing is vague anyway 03:23 mtompset Depends on if they refresh the voters lists each election, I suppose. 03:23 eythian ah. It's unclear in NZ on our site. I couldn't enrol to vote if away for three years, but I'm already enrolled, so I don't know what that means. 03:22 mtompset Not to mention residency requirements take at least 3 months to kick in when you return, if you were unfortunate to lose your residency because you stayed out of country too long. 03:21 mtompset Well, Canada doesn't disown you, but you lose the right to vote. 03:20 eythian what country does that? 03:20 mtompset ^you^your^ 03:19 mtompset dcook: Unless you country of citizenship wants to disown you after 5 years. ;) 03:19 ibeardslee eythian: no, didn't have to be done 03:19 dcook hehe 03:19 eythian dcook: pfft, what would you know? ;) 03:19 * dcook gives a thumbs up 03:18 dcook Travelling around the world for work is pretty awesome 03:18 eythian mtompset: has to be done :) 03:18 mtompset eythian: Why? Why? Nooooooooooo. :) 01:46 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 01:46 wizzyrea @later tell tcohen none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones. 01:46 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 01:46 wizzyrea @later tell cait none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones. 00:10 dcook Or about people with the same name and similar past :p 00:09 dcook Trying to track down contact information... you learn a lot about a person's past :S 00:08 * dcook goes back to researching other things 00:08 dcook Or changing how we handle metadata... 00:08 dcook And while we're moving away from version numbering... I think changing the indexing would be a good candidate for that 00:08 * dcook doubts that Zebra is going anywhere soon...