Time  Nick        Message
23:27 tcohen      mveron++
23:24 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4502: Changing wording again... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=379329861d19b178f14d360d9fee2518a462d8a7> / Bug 4502: An attempt to make things more sensible. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fea7b9b4d444a6bdf3f1326c54eddd68670be7f7> / Bug 4502: Catch software error if no active budget defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;
23:16 cait        hi tcohen
23:12 tcohen      hi
22:17 bag         later BobB have THE fun!
22:17 BobB        catch ya
22:17 BobB        I'll sort the fundraising meeting date over the weekend
22:17 BobB        I have to head out to a meeting'
22:16 BobB        very precious indded
22:16 bag         awesome!  I’m glad you all had a chance to meet her :)  very precious
22:16 BobB        I can see us next year reading to her over OpenTok or Google hangouts :)
22:16 bag         you can always read to her :D
22:15 BobB        LOL, not yet, she's six weeks old now
22:15 bag         err your daughters favorite book?
22:15 bag         did you all read the wallaby book to her?
22:15 BobB        we have the cutest granddaughter on the planet
22:15 bag         ah one of those Calfornia massive cities
22:14 BobB        wonderful
22:14 BobB        LA actually
22:14 bag         how was your trip to San Fran?
22:13 BobB        hi bag
22:13 wahanui     hi, bag
22:13 bag         BobB: hi there
21:44 pianohacker light suffocation more like
21:43 bag         96% eh and you’re calling that a Drizzle :P
21:43 huginn      bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 9.1°C (1:43 PM PST on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
21:43 bag         @wunder pdx
21:34 mveron      Good night / daytime #koha
21:19 huginn      Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
21:19 Francesca   @wunder wlg
21:18 wahanui     afternoon is good
21:18 wnickc      afternoon
21:17 wizzyrea    morning
21:14 Francesca   morning
21:12 pianohacker sounds like a good start to an afternoon
21:12 pianohacker that's like 4 double shots
21:11 bag         pianohacker: mug of espresso - yes please
21:08 Brooke      kitty feeding time
20:20 cait        ?
20:20 rickx       I see no end by missing tables
20:20 bag         not I said the brown cow
20:20 pianohacker bag: now, how brown cow
20:19 bag         pianohacker: now, hello there
20:19 pianohacker hi bag
20:19 wizzyrea    hi bag
20:19 wizzyrea    or if you have that many rows that need updating
20:19 cait        on the server?
20:19 cait        hm could it have finished anyway?
20:19 wizzyrea    probably, but if your db is that out of date, you'd probably rather run the update from the command line.
20:18 rickx       is there any way to modify the parameters of apache to wait until the process ends?
20:18 bag         hi wizzyrea
20:16 wizzyrea    it will likely pop you many errors since you've already started it, but those will be ok, probably.
20:16 wizzyrea    wow I should finish one thought before I start another
20:15 wizzyrea    it will likely pop you many also hi
20:15 wizzyrea    you can run koha-upgrade-schema <instancename> from the command line
20:13 rickx       or I can run the upgrade process through command line??
20:12 rickx       anyone know how I can increase the runtime?
20:12 rickx       I'm updating the version of Koha, but it takes a long time and get an error Gateway Time-out
20:10 rickx       Hello everybody
19:11 misilot     no problem
19:11 bag         sorry
19:11 bag         also anywhere that you see {{git….}}  you need a space on each side :)
19:11 misilot     ok
19:11 bag         you need to change {{git_fullname}}  to {{ git_full_name }}
19:10 bag         in roles/kohadevbox/templates/gitconfig.j2
19:10 bag         we submitted a patch that was bad :(
19:10 bag         and you need spaces around them :D
19:09 bag         git_full_name
19:09 bag         typo
19:09 misilot     bag: i defined git_fullname in vars/user.yml but ansible is complaining it is undefined. Do i need to define it somewhere else?
17:36 nuentoter   well someone may be able to help anyway, first of all when initially exporting my catalog, what format should that file be in? there is no default file extension in winnebago
17:32 cait        not me, sorry
17:29 nuentoter   Does anyone here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum and converting into usable records?
17:28 xarragon    I guess everything is easy in hindsight.
17:27 xarragon    But it is pretty obvious, the MARC-to-search-prefix-mapping is defined in the XML file.
17:27 cait        heh
17:23 xarragon    I need to use koha a bit more I think.. When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail; ie: "Let's add some code!"
17:18 xarragon    And to think I was sitting reading through the YAZ-client source code to figure out what I needed to do
17:16 bag         sweet
17:16 cait        ...this was the one http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/searching.html
17:15 cait        and actually.. that was the wrong link
17:15 drojf       later #koha
17:15 drojf       time to go home
17:14 misilot     bag: already use ansible for some of my infrastructure so I have that :)
17:14 cait        not intending to spoon feed you :)
17:14 cait        it's just easy to miss it - but really helpful
17:14 xarragon    cait: Thanks!
17:14 cait        http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/searchfaq.html
17:14 xarragon    cait: You don't need to spoon-feed me.
17:14 xarragon    cait: It is ok, I have the PDF
17:13 cait        xarragon: looking the linkup for you
17:13 xarragon    I was afraid we would have to add new perl stuff to be able to pass paramters for the searching of specific MARC fields.
17:13 xarragon    drojf++
17:12 xarragon    big*
17:12 xarragon    So bug thanks
17:12 xarragon    drojf: But yes, I get the expected record using yoru search methology.
17:12 xarragon    cait: No, I think I have to hang my head in shame here.. Though we started looking at the indexing process since we assumed to have to add a new index anyway
17:11 drojf       xarragon: it's used to link records too. if you use 773/774 and use control numbers to link, the generated links in the opac use it
17:11 cait        xarragon: didyou take a look at the search chapter in the koha manual?
17:10 xarragon    drojf: if that is all that is needed it is awesome
17:10 cait        i didn't expect that to be alocal use one
17:10 cait        strange
17:09 cait        hm  211 att 9001    Control-number
17:09 drojf       xarragon: in the opac, a search for Control-number:<yournumber> should work
17:09 bag         misilot: you’ll have to install ansible too
17:09 bag         misilot: it’s nice you can vagrant up wheezy jessie trusty  (all in one command)  you get 3 different distros with master installed
17:09 xarragon    drojf: But then figuring out the syntax for rhe search command, with all the parameter mappings, schemas etc. was a bit overwhelming at first. :-)
17:08 cait        stocknumber is a differentfield in marc i think
17:08 xarragon    drojf: But I kept getting error with the URL, so i switched to the yaz client to be able to have a bit more control
17:08 bag         misilot: same spot - different branch https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox/tree/ansible
17:07 xarragon    drojf: I was playing around with the metadata (zebra::*) in the SRU yesterday.
17:07 cait        xarragon: 001 is Control-number
17:07 misilot     bag: possibly? All I did was   $ git clone https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox.git;   $ cd kohadevbox;  $ cp config.cfg-sample config.cfg (set values);   $ vagrant plugin install vagrant-cachier; vagrant up (and changed from chef to their new name)
17:07 cait        1028 is theattribute - should be something different
17:05 bag         also misilot are you using anisble?
17:05 xarragon    drojf: Ah, there's what I am looking for.
17:03 drojf       you can also ask zebra what indexes are known. that does not really tell you what is in there though http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing
17:03 xarragon    drojf: Right, I will look
17:03 reiveune    bye
17:02 drojf       you should be able to see the field numbers and index names
17:02 drojf       maybe that link is better http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml;h=6b1fb87baa1a43544075de546bf178b6765bf1b9;hb=HEAD
17:02 xarragon    drojf: I just need to know how to search that field then.
17:01 drojf       that#s what it's for, AFAIK :)
17:01 xarragon    drojf: Ok, that is exactly what we do with it.
17:01 drojf       xarragon: what do you mean by reserved? it depends on the use, locally or in your union… usually a record would be identified by 003+001, eg in a union catalogue. koha does not really do that though
17:01 xarragon    drojf: Ah, that file. i have looked at it here locally, thanks. i might go through it again now that I am more familiar with Z39.50
17:00 xarragon    drojf: Yes.. Is that field reserved for something else? Or what does that entail?
17:00 bag         ok misilot I don’t think it’s running then
16:59 misilot     bag: no
16:59 drojf       xarragon: does that help? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl;h=604c76a85648224d8d8d36e75ac81980b7b34f01;hb=HEAD
16:59 bag         or try ps aux | grep plack
16:59 misilot     bag: no
16:59 xarragon    So I am not sure if Bib-1 actually maps BIB-1:1028 to MARC:001
16:59 drojf       xarragon: 001 is Control-number
16:59 bag         misilot: do you get anything if you type —  ps aux | grep starman
16:59 misilot     oh?
16:59 bag         right also I think you have to use package commands to start up plack
16:58 xarragon    Buuut, I can't seem to query it properly.
16:58 misilot     bag: well it is complaining about it not running (which I cannot access it via localhost:5001 from the host computer) ... will try koha-shell
16:58 xarragon    In Swedish libraries, we store a national ID in that field. That is what I need to look up.
16:58 bag         I think without it you’re not pulling the KOHA_CONF
16:58 bag         and then your tests will pass
16:58 xarragon    So I looked over the Bib-1 definitions, and it seems Bib-1:1028 is called "Stock-number".
16:58 bag         misilot: I think maybe you need to use koha-shell
16:57 xarragon    We might want 003 as well, for example.
16:57 xarragon    There was also a guide on the wiki how to add custom indexes.
16:56 xarragon    I have looked around a bit in the XML stack, yes. I am after MARK field 001 specifically, which seems to be indexed.
16:56 cait        starting with the xml file
16:56 xarragon    heh, yeah.. well I know enough Z39.50 and Yaz to perform queries and inspect the result now
16:56 cait        i usuallly look in the zebra files directly
16:56 cait        you could probably write something to create a list
16:55 cait        definitionproblem :)
16:55 cait        ... easy...
16:54 xarragon    Is there any easy way to view which indexes are available in the zebra server?
16:52 misilot     should plack just work with the kohadevbox? not sure if I am missing something on setting it up. I can't get to it on 5000 or 5001 and cd /vagrant; prove; fails with the Plack tests
16:28 misilot     question about kovadevbox what username and password should I be using for the staff interface?
16:12 nuentoter   anyone in here have any experience with exporting from winnebago/spectrum?
16:12 cait        i think he just left :)
16:08 tcohen      :-D
16:07 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:07 tcohen      @later tell mveron congrats, please get involved in testing your patchset, we have one week to spot any issues
16:06 tcohen      i didn't mean to talk about that
16:06 cait        tcohen: it's an old bug - the dateformat problem with fines we were discussing. the pref already displays a warning message
16:05 tcohen      mveron-away: ?
15:52 huginn      bag: The operation succeeded.
15:52 bag         @later tell dcook - thanks - I made the suggestion to nengard
15:46 bag         morning cait
15:46 cait        morning bag :)
15:44 bag         morning
15:26 mveron      enjoy your dinner. I'll have a meeting and I'm back in about 4 hours
15:25 cait        making dinner, bbiab
15:25 cait        but i think we can't fix that for now.
15:25 cait        yeah... it doesn#t sound like a good idea to begin with
15:25 mveron      Oh, I see...
15:23 cait        and the fines code looks at the generated description and parses the date from there
15:23 cait        it's messy
15:22 cait        mveron: the dates are in the descriptions
15:22 tcohen      cait: are you fixing it?
15:21 mveron      Hmm shouldn't the table have the dates in iso format?
15:20 cait        but it talks about 2 date formats... and we have 4 :)
15:20 cait        maybe this could fix it: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl;h=470b84b1ae0b01f1022c458ec831507dcf61fa82;hb=87e7d5555e604043602de73c46b68d28299aefd9
15:19 cait        i wonder if we could have a nice script doing it... until accounts are rewritten
15:19 mveron      cait: There is a note about the date switching problem near the syspref dateformat. Thanks for the hint.
15:15 cait        hm what about non-packages instances? is that file used then too?
15:14 cait        you need to fix the todo :)
15:14 cait        tcohen: (TODO: fix)  <
15:13 cait        in production instances with fines you have to be careful about switching the dateformat
15:13 * mveron    will read back
15:13 cait        did you see my discussion with kyle earlier?
15:12 mveron      cait: I'm happy as well... finally...
15:12 cait        20.11.2015
15:12 cait        mveron: this patch makes me so happy
15:08 druthb      Just tell bag to hush, nengard. You're Serving The Community(tm).
15:08 druthb      naah.
15:08 cait        it's so irritating to see the dates like i expect them!!!
15:08 nengard     pretty sure bag will have something to say about that
15:08 tcohen      cait++
15:07 cait        nengard: you can just come to the room with us :P
15:07 cait        tcohen: almost done with the dateformat one
15:00 tcohen      (well, the integration into the packges)
15:00 tcohen      with it, plack is production ready as far as I can tell
15:00 tcohen      :-D
15:00 tcohen      i need 1 person to sign off, and 1 person to QA
14:59 ashimema    :)
14:59 tcohen      i'm filling a bug, that I want to fast-track :-D
14:59 ashimema    hi tcohen
14:58 tcohen      hi ashimema
14:56 nengard     and i can't give you khall and pianohacker ... i need one of them here :)
14:56 nengard     hehe
14:52 cait        ...
14:52 cait        now i want to be INSIDE the room too
14:51 cait        heh
14:50 ashimema    and any other's I've missed out 'cause my fingers got tired
14:50 ashimema    can we have pianohacker, tcohen, rangi and colinc too?
14:48 cait        hehe
14:47 nengard     we have 3 votes for :)
14:47 nengard     uh oh - koha community seems to be planning on kidnapping ashimema and khall and locking them in a room ....
14:44 magnuse     cait++
14:42 druthb      cait++
14:42 ashimema    haha
14:41 cait        we'd even send in food... if you send out patches :P
14:41 nengard     hehe
14:41 nengard     cait++
14:41 nengard     i'd love that
14:38 cait        can we look you 2 in a room for 2 weeks and sign of the patches falling out?
14:37 ashimema    along with an auth rewrite
14:37 * ashimema  also want's to do an account re-write
14:37 cait        yeah, it should have never done that
14:36 khall       some day I'll get that rewritten
14:36 khall       yep, that's why the rewrite goes by issue_id and not the description
14:35 cait        messy
14:35 cait        mesy
14:35 cait        so only for overdue lines
14:35 cait        ok
14:35 khall       you need to change just the due date and only the due date
14:34 khall       If you change *all* /'s to .'s you'll end up with duplicate fines
14:34 khall       ah, I see. A regex via mysql should fix that up
14:33 cait        ah, i want to switch production installations from dd/mm/yyyy to dd.mm.yyyy :)
14:33 khall       cait: I'm not sure what you mean
14:33 cait        khall: do you think it would be enough to just change the strings? in our case we'd replace / with .
14:32 cait        hm i have no overdues in my database...
14:32 cait        ah
14:32 ashimema    whilst juggling some non-blocking code I'm writing.
14:32 cait        timeformatis the same
14:32 cait        hm the time didn't change
14:32 khall       what we need is a script where you specify a from date and time format, and a to date and time format
14:31 ashimema    the db one yeah.. sorta looking at it..
14:31 ashimema    yikes
14:31 khall       cait: I don't think so, it doesn't even take the time into account!
14:31 cait        i hope we can work towards it next release
14:31 cait        yeah i totally understand that
14:30 cait        i'd really like to move our databases to the new format :)
14:30 khall       cait: this is one major reason I did the accounts rewrite. The way it works right now it is "fragile" to say the least.
14:30 cait        hm could the sscript we were about to remove be a start?
14:30 khall       cait: not that I'm aware of. It gets even more complicated when you add the timeformat in!
14:29 cait        ashimema: are you looking at the database update one?
14:29 cait        khall: do you now if we have a script that works if you want to change your dateformat setting? bit worried becuase of the big bold warning :( Note: Do not change this preference on a production server with  overdue items that are accruing fines. Doing so will result in duplicate  fines!
14:16 ashimema    but alas.. it was declared as too expensive with regards to dependancies..
14:16 ashimema    Man i wish were were using deployment handler..
14:14 cait        and thx for helping :)
14:12 ashimema    cheers
14:12 cait        for the plack one tomas might have a workaround - but he is afk currently and it's not on bugzilla yet i think
14:11 cait        ashimema: bugs = not ready for sign off - although the update problem bug has some, i think there is a problem there people need to figure out. so good to take a look maybe
14:11 ashimema    are Bugs new stuff since 3.22 beta?
14:10 ashimema    whats the difference between NSO and Bugs?
14:10 ashimema    in your trello..
14:10 ashimema    your looking at 12072 right cait
14:10 ashimema    so..
14:10 * ashimema  needs an eye check
14:09 cait        i just had an eye check yesterday :)
14:09 cait        he thx
14:09 * mveron    sends his spare glasses to cait...
14:08 cait        i am lookin gat the last one onw
14:08 cait        why can i never get any numbers right? *grump*
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy
14:08 cait        and bug 12072
14:08 wahanui     that one is down more often than up
14:08 cait        that one.
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15207 major, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Failed QA , Error on upgrade from 3.20.5 to 3.22 beta
14:08 cait        bug 15207
14:08 cait        argh, not that one.
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15076 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Remove file misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl
14:08 cait        bug 15076
14:08 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , (Plack) Stage MARC records for import breaks in Plack
14:08 cait        bug 15032
14:08 cait        i think 3 patches to be resolved now:
14:07 mveron      hi drojf :-)
14:07 mveron      cait++
14:07 ashimema    I jus qa'd it after her :)
14:07 * mveron    had many date stings...
14:07 ashimema    she spotted the typo ;)
14:07 ashimema    cait++ for signing off..
14:07 mveron      ashiema++ (for signing off and for finding the typo:  date sting)
14:06 cait        ashimema: waiting for the status switch here to cheer heh
14:06 drojf       hi mveron :)
14:06 * mveron    cheers everybody on...
14:06 cait        ashimema++
14:06 * drojf     cheers cait on
14:05 cait        Die C4::Dates, die!
14:00 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System
14:00 cait        as i have roped ashimema in to look at bug 14870... someone interested to check 15207?
13:57 cait        https://trello.com/b/U2qRMwJO/3-22-blockers
13:57 cait        we are getting there :)
13:57 khall       np!
13:56 cait        khall: and thx for qa :)
13:56 khall       thanks!
13:56 khall       excellent!
13:56 cait        khall: saw the test - will try to take a look in a bit!
13:29 * cait      files a bug
13:28 cait        is there a good reason we display branch and itemtype codes only on the return page?
13:27 cait        and there is khall too :)
13:25 mveron      Oh yes please please... :-)
13:25 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14870 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Delete C4/Dates.pm from System
13:25 cait        bug 14870
13:24 wahanui     not that is a probably - you'll just need to learn a few new techinques
13:24 cait        hm not that
13:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add additional languages to advanced search language search
13:24 cait        i am working on a sign-off for bug 15067
13:24 mveron      Ok...
13:24 cait        ashimema: was wondering if you could help me with the dates patches
13:24 cait        mveron: it never was fully implemented
13:24 cait        ah
13:21 mveron      cait: What is the meaning of "Upcoming events" in opac-messaging.tt ? Is it really "Veranstaltungstipps" in German?
13:19 ashimema    wat up cait
13:19 ashimema    pong
13:05 mveron      :-)
13:05 * cait      waves back
13:05 * mveron    waves
12:33 cait        ashimema ping
12:25 magnuse     have fun tcohen
12:17 cait        oh good :)
12:17 tcohen      so i'll be back in 2 hours
12:17 tcohen      I need to go to the bank
12:16 cait        you are too early.. i am not done yet! :)
12:16 cait        morning tcohen
12:13 tcohen      morning
12:01 cait        drojf: ohok
11:57 drojf       cait: yes
11:53 cait        hm no khall :(
11:45 cait        a later i left ages ago?
11:44 cait        hm?
11:44 cait        jm?
11:38 drojf       cait: lol
11:34 drojf       hi #koha
10:36 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (11:20 AM CET on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
10:36 magnuse     @wunder boo
10:16 cait        and it would still be shorter than the german translation :)
10:16 cait        i will take clear over short sometimes...
10:15 magnuse     that would be very clear, if not very short :-)
10:12 cait        hm or Proxy page for resources with restricted access?
10:12 cait        or something like that
10:12 cait        Page for restricted access
10:12 cait        i tihnk maybe we shoudl rename it to be more clear
10:02 magnuse     ah yes, i think the restricted page was for e.g. journal databases that use the referer to authorize access for users
10:00 magnuse     ok
09:59 cait        i hink ys, but it should not be so much
09:58 cait        some kind of proxy page i think
09:58 cait        hm?
09:57 magnuse     huh? "opac.pref Restricted page"
09:45 Amit_Gupta  heya mveron
09:41 * mveron    waves
09:39 * magnuse   hopes not
09:37 magnuse     and do you know if pootle will be updated again?
09:37 magnuse     ah
09:37 cait        i think tomas said last night he forgot to announce it
09:36 cait        nope
09:36 cait        that's the day, when...
09:36 magnuse     cait: do you know anything about string freeze?
09:34 cait        magnuse: lol
09:18 magnuse     translating - such fun!
09:12 mveron      hi Amit_Gupta
09:10 Amit_Gupta  hi all
09:09 mveron      Hi again #koha
08:19 cait        bbl
08:19 * cait      waves
07:55 alex_a      bonjour
07:53 fridolin    bonjour all
07:30 reiveune    hello
07:25 magnuse     no string freeze yet?
07:22 * magnuse   waves
04:15 eythian     :D
04:15 dcook       eythian: Anathema just popped up on my playlist ;)
03:46 wizzyrea    (also that's not a project for today, so don't expect it to be fixed tomorrow ;)
03:46 Francesca   bye!
03:46 mtompset    and irma :)
03:46 eythian     later
03:46 wizzyrea    later mtompset
03:46 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea eythian dcook ibeardslee Francesca mtj
03:46 mtompset    Anyways, I should go get sleep.
03:45 mtompset    Probably mention it as an HTML comment on the documentation page, so that it doesn't get lost in the anals of time. ;)
03:44 mtompset    I'd keep back to 3.14 on the documentation page, but not lose those old files and create an archived documentation page which is unlinked, but provideable on request.
03:43 wizzyrea    hm, I guess we had one 3.14
03:43 wizzyrea    3.16
03:42 mtompset    I'd be tempted to create an archived documentation page.
03:42 mtompset    What is the furthest back we have released in the last 6 months?
03:41 wizzyrea    I'm wondering if it's time to retire those.
03:41 mtompset    3.0 link busted still
03:40 wizzyrea    \o/
03:40 mtompset    French is fixed.
03:39 wahanui     hey now now, sing this corrosion to me
03:39 wizzyrea    how about now
03:38 wizzyrea    it's not really practical to keep the wordpress in git.
03:38 wahanui     documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
03:38 mtompset    documentation
03:38 dcook       Hmm maybe not
03:38 wizzyrea    mtompset: which page are you looking at
03:37 dcook       Actually, is there a git for the website... I think there is
03:37 eythian     wizzyrea: ^
03:37 mtompset    http://http//manual.koha-community.org/3.2/fr/ is missing a :
03:37 mtj         eythian: cool, saturday arvo at HZ could be doable too :)
03:36 mtompset    https://www.koha-community.orgfiles/2010/02/wayne-state-university-koha-3.0-reference-manual.pdf is missing a /
03:36 ibeardslee  I've been getting early nights all week in preparation
03:35 mtompset    Oh, who has edit capability for the www.koha-community.org site?
03:35 ibeardslee  soft
03:35 dcook       ^
03:35 eythian     ibeardslee: I'll probably just be wanting to sleep :)
03:35 eythian     mtj: odds are I won't be in town on Friday but I'm having drinks on Saturday afternoon at HZ
03:35 ibeardslee  he will probably be in town after whisky tomorrow
03:34 mtj         hey eythian, giz a ping if you end up in town after work, tmrw
03:34 dcook       Hurray for improving it for others :)
03:33 wizzyrea    definitely not funsies.
03:33 wizzyrea    not just doing it for funsies.
03:33 wizzyrea    so that caused a bunch of re-indenting as well
03:33 wizzyrea    well I also had to re-do most of the divs on the page because it wasn't done properly originally :/
03:32 dcook       "yeah nah" love it
03:32 dcook       Well, not so bad if you're able to switch the tabs to spaces..
03:32 wizzyrea    oh jeez. yeah nah.
03:32 dcook       That's fun
03:32 dcook       Also when someone mixes tabs and spaces in Python source
03:32 * dcook     hates re-indenting
03:32 dcook       Ahhh
03:32 dcook       Paragraph 222(1)(c). There we go.
03:31 wizzyrea    I was just looking at a very weirdly nested template.
03:31 dcook       wizzyrea: Hmm?
03:31 dcook       I suppose it does with manslaughter vs murder too of course..
03:31 wizzyrea    tfw you have to re-indent everything just to understand wtf is going on.
03:31 dcook       "Intentions" make their way into all sorts of laws
03:31 dcook       Law is a funny thing in how vague it can be sometimes
03:30 dcook       Christ, I can't remember how to do legal citations properly anymore...
03:30 dcook       Canada Elecctions Act (S.C. 2000, c. 9) s. 222 (1) c http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/E-2.01/page-65.html#docCont
03:28 huginn      Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on November 19, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
03:28 Francesca   @wunder wlg
03:27 huginn      mtompset: The current temperature in Wilshire-Thornhill, Vaughan, Ontario is 11.1°C (10:16 PM EST on November 18, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
03:27 mtompset    @wunder l7e5y5
03:26 mtompset    How about I curse it now for you. ;)
03:26 wahanui     i heard Interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
03:26 dcook       eythian: Interesting
03:26 eythian     but even a quick visit counts
03:26 dcook       37 degrees yesterday ;)
03:26 dcook       I'm sure everyone I know in Canada will be cursing my name in about... 4-8 weeks if they're not already
03:26 eythian     ah, I can't vote if I haven't been to NZ in the past three years
03:26 dcook       I love Canada, but Australia is pretty good.
03:26 mtompset    :)
03:26 mtompset    Silly you.
03:25 dcook       I'm an emigrant :p
03:25 dcook       The five year rule seems to apply more to Canadians who are temporarily non-residents
03:24 dcook       I don't have any intent to return at this time
03:24 dcook       "confirm that they intend to return to Canada to reside by providing the date on which they intend to resume residence in Canada" http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=reg/etr&document=index&lang=e
03:24 mtompset    Unless the politicians want to mess you up. :)
03:24 eythian     they don't, once enrolled, always enrolled I think
03:24 dcook       I haven't been gone for 5 years yet, but I still was ineligible
03:24 dcook       The elections thing is vague anyway
03:23 mtompset    Depends on if they refresh the voters lists each election, I suppose.
03:23 eythian     ah. It's unclear in NZ on our site. I couldn't enrol to vote if away for three years, but I'm already enrolled, so I don't know what that means.
03:22 mtompset    Not to mention residency requirements take at least 3 months to kick in when you return, if you were unfortunate to lose your residency because you stayed out of country too long.
03:21 mtompset    Well, Canada doesn't disown you, but you lose the right to vote.
03:20 eythian     what country does that?
03:20 mtompset    ^you^your^
03:19 mtompset    dcook: Unless you country of citizenship wants to disown you after 5 years. ;)
03:19 ibeardslee  eythian: no, didn't have to be done
03:19 dcook       hehe
03:19 eythian     dcook: pfft, what would you know? ;)
03:19 * dcook     gives a thumbs up
03:18 dcook       Travelling around the world for work is pretty awesome
03:18 eythian     mtompset: has to be done :)
03:18 mtompset    eythian: Why? Why? Nooooooooooo. :)
01:46 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
01:46 wizzyrea    @later tell tcohen none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones.
01:46 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
01:46 wizzyrea    @later tell cait none of the bugs I've filed are urgent for this release. They can be maintenance ones.
00:10 dcook       Or about people with the same name and similar past :p
00:09 dcook       Trying to track down contact information... you learn a lot about a person's past :S
00:08 * dcook     goes back to researching other things
00:08 dcook       Or changing how we handle metadata...
00:08 dcook       And while we're moving away from version numbering... I think changing the indexing would be a good candidate for that
00:08 * dcook     doubts that Zebra is going anywhere soon...