Time Nick Message
23:05 Francesca hello
22:20 xarragon Ah, ok, it does it automatically, existing tests was simply not cleaning up properly.
20:21 xarragon Because a lot of time the tests aborts before the transaction rollback code at the end runs and thi polliutes the database with junk
20:20 xarragon Hmm, when writing database tests with test_builder, is there recommended way to handle when errors are raised?
19:24 trasheagle Is anyone out there?
19:15 trasheagle Does anyone have experience using the /svc HTTP API?
18:45 trasheagle Can anyone help me form some HTTP API urls?
18:44 trasheagle Hello!
17:28 gaetan_B bye
17:14 cait bye Joubu :)
17:12 tcohen bye Joubu uuuuu
16:54 Joubu Have a good week-end #koha!
16:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14795 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch record modification tool removes framework code
16:34 Joubu I think bug 14795 is a critical one for 3.20.x, please test
16:21 bag morning
16:11 cait Joubu++
16:06 Joubu nengard: thanks!
16:05 nengard Joubu, I updated the ticket
16:05 reiveune bye
16:04 Joubu nengard: did you see my question? :)
16:01 nengard pianohacker, is actually sitting across the table from me :)
15:59 pianohacker Joubu: I just poked her
15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15071 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , red color on check outs
15:55 Joubu nengard: Hi! Do you have more detail to give us on bug 15071?
15:48 andreashm bye #koha
15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines
15:07 andreashm woot! bug 15165
15:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15058: Update German web installer sample files for 3.22 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3866d9bb82d44529a055c72d264f1f465bf42235> / Bug 15178: Update of Italian web installer .sql files for 3.22 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fda4d60c1fb3b8f644a74326e4876d93abac175>
15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the list related code to Koha::Virtualshelves
15:03 Joubu tcohen: another bug fix on bug 14544
15:01 cait :)
15:00 * andreashm should probably go home soon. brain melt.
14:59 andreashm although it's not afternoon yet for him. oh well...
14:59 andreashm not here for discussions friday afternoon? bah! =)
14:58 cait i will try another time :)
14:57 cait i wanted to discuss something with him
14:56 andreashm cait: holds questions?
14:56 andreashm for those who want to spend the rest of friday afternoon reading OAI feedback. =)
14:55 cait khall: ... ping!
14:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
14:54 andreashm ok, wall of text saved on bug 10662
14:47 andreashm bye
14:45 magnuse have fun #koha!
14:44 andreashm joubu: yeah, I'm adding * now. Still, it makes it kind of hard to read. not even tabs is supported...
14:44 Joubu andreashm: - or * for the bullets :)
14:43 andreashm I believe my wall of text will be hard to read...
14:42 andreashm humm, there's no way to style the text (bullet lists, headings, bold/italics) in Bugzilla, right?
14:41 tcohen Joubu++
14:41 tcohen thanks for the quick patch Joubu
14:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15182 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , make test fails immediately on 3.22.00-beta due to missing Crypt::GCrypt which is optional
14:41 Joubu tcohen, khall, ashimema: please have a look at the patch on bug 15182
14:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15079: Batch Delete Records Error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=706a31b50d52ef1ba48c568d7e60c376cfe87983> / Bug 14985: dbms expects a iso formatted date <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=918038904553ecd8572006abcb91f00bd92b4be4> / Bug 14985: Simplify the date management in AddReserve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7aabe91
14:26 Joubu sure*
14:26 Joubu I am it's a very dirty solution, but it works...
14:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14915: (follow-up) [FA 4.4] (QA followup) Replace fa-hold with fa-sticky-note-o <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c33f1d1e6481562c5898afb1289fe8a946e4d7a>
14:26 Joubu We could around the require with an evel
14:25 Joubu fix something and it explodes somewhere else...
14:25 Joubu erk
14:25 Joubu confirmed, I have reverted it and it works
14:25 tcohen Joubu: I'm sure that's the reason
14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15151 blocker, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t fails if no DB present
14:24 Joubu tcohen: certainly caused by Bug 15151: Avoid DB access to load C4::Members
14:24 tcohen Joubu: solution? make it mandatory?
14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15182 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , make test fails immediately on 3.22.00-beta due to missing Crypt::GCrypt which is optional
14:23 Joubu bug 15182
14:23 Joubu tcohen: and I confirm that everything explodes when Crypt::GCrypt is not installed
14:20 tcohen thanks Joubu
14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14915 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Use Font Awesome instead of Glyphicons for the staff intranet
14:19 Joubu tcohen: see last patch on bug 14915
14:16 cait hm jcamins maybe?
13:48 cait hm no khall... that's unfortunate
13:46 cait i got a holds question...
13:46 cait khall: around?
13:10 tcohen yeah, I remembered
13:10 wahanui i already had it that way, Joubu.
13:10 Joubu that's the patch I was thinking about
13:10 Joubu tcohen: Bug 15032: Make sure the filehandle is not close on background mode
13:10 Joubu that's the patch I was thinking about
13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15032 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Plack testing -- Stage MARC records for import -- Internal Server Error/Stalled Staged Import
13:10 Joubu tcohen: Bug 15032: Make sure the filehandle is not close on background mode
12:49 cait back
12:38 tcohen do you pray? regularly?
12:38 Joubu tcohen: and if we don't know how to fix a specific issue? :p
12:37 tcohen both can/should be patched if we find issues on them
12:37 tcohen #koha: remember that (regarding plack) we are testing the integration of it into the packages, using Starman to control the process. This means that it is important to test using the debian/templates/plack.psgi file, AND the debian/scripts/koha-plack script
12:35 tcohen Joubu: :-P
12:34 * Joubu runs and hides
12:34 andreashm thanks tcohen
12:34 Joubu ok plack was not running using the right user...
12:30 Joubu and got a "check permission" error on upload.pl under plack, but everything works fine without plack
12:27 tcohen /var/run/koha...
12:27 andreashm I tried deleting the var/lock/koha folder but got denied because of permissions
12:26 andreashm sigh. I'm rebuilding zebra but my computer turned off, and now I cant restart the process as it seems to be locked. is there a way of continuing the halfway reindex? or if not, how can I clear the lock?
12:26 tcohen people have tried commenting uncommenting lines that close the STDOUT filehandle to notify apache it should leave the background process alone (seems buggy, not sure how that would work on nginx or other software)
12:24 tcohen as i see it, the problem is in BackgroundJob
12:24 Joubu Actually I was not on it, but discover it working on qaing something else
12:24 tcohen and start working on that bug too
12:24 tcohen i haven't, i'm about to get a coffee
12:23 tcohen i don't remember that
12:23 Joubu (did you already drink your cup of tea?)
12:23 Joubu Does it remember something to you?
12:23 Joubu I remember I already encounter this error before but I don't manage to find the patch
12:23 Joubu I have switched my $fh = $upload->{fh}; to my $fh = open '<', $filename; and it now works
12:22 Joubu but with my "local dev" install, it does not, I get "upload status: failed"
12:22 Joubu tcohen: I get a very weird behavior with the stage import tools under Plack. With a kohadevbox:ansible box, it "works", I can upload the file (just the first step, not the records import)
12:21 atheia ^^
12:20 * ashimema gives up
12:20 ashimema s/us/use/
12:20 ashimema s/me/him/ - bad us of tense
12:19 * ashimema is about to submit his first pull request on DBIx::Class.. wish me luck
12:19 tcohen morning
12:09 Joubu oops :)
12:09 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:09 Joubu @later tell rangi please have a look at the splitter cronjob please, it's completely out of sync again
12:09 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:09 Joubu @later tell rangi please have a look at the splitter cronjob please, it's completely out of sync again
11:42 fridolin Joubu: thanks to you for testing 8-)
11:35 Joubu ok thanks
11:35 fridolin Joubu: i reproduce the effet of my path in uptodate master
11:35 huginn 04Bug 14078: normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , converting from ISO5426 is not complete
11:35 fridolin Joubu: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14078#c13
11:32 fridolin Joubu: i provide en example in th eBZ
11:25 Joubu So I won't be able to confirm your patch fixes something
11:25 Joubu fridolin: I manage to import the records, that's not the problem. I don't get any encoding issues, withtout your patch
11:24 fridolin (2c question)
11:24 fridolin Joubu: did you untar ?
11:24 Joubu fridolin: I get the upload error without your patch
11:24 fridolin Joubu: mmh i'll retest
11:21 Joubu I get "Upload status: Failed" when I try to stage records :-/
11:20 Joubu Could someone test something with 3.22beta + Plack?
11:18 Joubu fridolin: yes but on master I don't see any encoding issue
11:18 fridolin in iso2709 format
11:18 fridolin Joubu: there is a sample of records
11:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14078 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Signed Off , converting from ISO5426 is not complete
11:16 Joubu fridolin: how can I test bug 14078?
10:50 drojf hi #koha
10:40 ashimema but yeah.. we really aught to get feature parity and then nuke non-xslt for now
10:39 ashimema there is an alarming amount of logic in those templates
10:39 * ashimema woudl eventually like to replace xslt with somthing a bit more lightweight.. but there is allot preventing that at the moment ;)
10:38 cait the problems are in the result list
10:38 cait but much more complete too... the old display is quite ugly. i think we could probably remove the detail page
10:37 ashimema it's the price for the flexability it brings.. and using XML.. yuk
10:37 xarragon Okay, do not look at my code. Must be basic PEBKAC error, not even a 'hello world' style dataset is buitl correcly.
10:37 ashimema XSLT is deffo much slower..
10:37 ashimema sounds mean.. but I would suggest those people actually using such feature should take some more responsability for replicating them when we wish to deprecate old code ;)
10:36 cait but that's why the deprecating /kicking out came to a halt basically
10:36 cait there is also a report from gaetan somewhere about it being much slower that we didn't really investigate yet
10:36 cait HighlightOwnItemsOnOpac and OpacPopupAuthosSearch for sure
10:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12561 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views
10:35 cait bug 12561 - look at the depends ons
10:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2619 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Turning on XSLTResultsDisplay preference turns off item detail display
10:35 cait bug 2619
10:35 cait sec
10:35 ashimema what feature is it then?
10:34 xarragon I must be doing something really stupid because not even the branch code gets set corretcly it seems
10:34 cait one for highlighting your own branch or something
10:34 cait the feature is not that old
10:34 ashimema In all seriousness, I'd like to see if HEA can say whether anyone is using non-xslt and those features we'de be deprecating ;)
10:34 * ashimema thinks that's also a good excuse to remove unused features ;)
10:34 June I can only retrieve by ID with this link http://127.0.0.1/cgi-bin/koha/ilsdi.pl?service=GetRecords&id=1
10:33 cait ashimema: some features only work with it
10:33 cait ashimema: it's regression if we kick it out now
10:32 June is there any web services to retrieve the item information by using Barcode number?
10:31 June Hello
10:31 xarragon I have trouble creating a complex, linked dataset with test::builder, the dumped output differs from my input, I am probably chaining it together incorrectly. Can anybody spot the error? http://39650b7456cbbba6.paste.se/
10:20 * ashimema needs more tea
10:19 * ashimema is in cruel dictator mode today ;)
10:18 ashimema has been deprecated long enough now me thinks ;)
10:18 ashimema kill all reference to non-xslt everywhere :)
09:59 Joubu thanks magnuse
09:58 magnuse Joubu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#DEPR1:_non-XSLT_search_results_and_bib_display_templates_deprecated : "Consequently, the non-XSLT option is now deprecated and it will not be maintained."
09:52 * atheia waves
09:51 cait Thx Joubu :)
09:50 cait morning atheia :)
09:41 atheia morning!
09:37 * andreashm imported our database to my Kohadevbox yesterday. About a million records or so. Now I'm reindexing zebra.... and can actually see it working, line by line. Oh my, this is going to take a while. =)
09:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , OPAC system preference BiblioDefaultView is ignored
09:37 Joubu cait: what do you think of bug 14259, should we continue to maintain non-xslt views?
09:35 * andreashm waves
09:15 * cait waves
08:20 * magnuse waves
08:14 Amit_Gupta hello gaetan__B
08:03 alex_a bonjour
08:02 gaetan_B hello
08:01 Amit_Gupta hi joubu
07:58 Joubu good morning #koha
07:49 reiveune hello
05:46 mveron Bye #koha
05:32 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 6.0°C (6:20 AM CET on November 13, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
05:32 mveron @wunder Allschwil
01:16 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on November 13, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
01:16 Francesca @wunder wlg
01:08 * Francesca waves
01:04 TGoat leaving for the gym with the wife. thanks again dcook.
01:02 TGoat nite
01:02 cait bye all
01:02 cait i should sleep :)
01:01 cait the effect is similar as for arabic - with the mirroring effect in the gui
01:01 cait but they could fix that :)
01:00 cait hm I think hebrew was not very complete as a translation last time i checked
01:00 dcook Don't know anything about Hebrew myself
01:00 TGoat I have as hebrew library that is asking questions too.. you guys are hitting all my sweet spots
01:00 cait yeah i think currently we onyl have arabic and hebrew
00:59 dcook Hebrew is right to left too I think
00:59 dcook Don't know about its direction..
00:59 dcook Agreed
00:59 cait but so pretty
00:59 dcook sanskrit is intimidating for sure
00:59 cait hm sanskrit?
00:59 TGoat I went to Dubai and Abu Dhabi this year and it was awesome. if you have the chance go
00:59 cait i think some other scripts even more so
00:58 dcook (so much for Arabic numerals..)
00:58 dcook Used to work in a library that had some Arabic collections.. taught myself numbers 1-10 then forgot them..
00:58 TGoat it looks ike it belongs in a painting
00:58 cait for being an RTL script
00:58 cait yeah that has an additioanl difficulty
00:58 dcook Once upon a time, I thought about studying it
00:58 dcook I wish I could read it :/
00:57 TGoat that's what Im dealing with.. Arabic
00:57 wahanui aye aye cap'n
00:57 TGoat roger that
00:57 dcook While I could probably do an OK job of French, there's no way I could provide translations for our Arabic clients
00:57 dcook translations are something I'm grateful to other people for
00:57 TGoat you guys are all awesome!
00:57 cait translations are obviously something i have to deal with :)
00:57 dcook hehe
00:57 huginn TGoat: I suck
00:57 cait lol
00:57 TGoat @dcook++
00:57 huginn TGoat: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
00:56 TGoat @cait++
00:56 dcook For being a master at all the things :D
00:56 dcook cait++
00:56 dcook TGoat: no worries
00:56 dcook Database is probably better at it tbh
00:56 dcook Could do the same thing with a database rather than xml files
00:56 dcook And the code just uses a pointer to whatever string that locale is set to
00:56 TGoat cool.. thanks
00:55 dcook And you use a locale to choose between them
00:55 dcook A lot of Java-based things I've seen allow you to have a string in lots of different languages
00:55 TGoat that would be nice
00:55 cait we can't do that right now
00:55 dcook We could do more with "locale" for sure
00:55 cait and then be able to send them a notice in the preferred language
00:54 dcook ^
00:54 cait what would be a nice addition: a preferred language setting for the patrons
00:54 TGoat yea, not two at once :p
00:54 cait so all our libraries provide english and german actually, some have more languages
00:54 dcook Not having two at once though :p
00:54 dcook Yeah, switching between languages makes sense
00:54 cait we also get a lot of foreign students here
00:54 TGoat they could choose between languages
00:54 dcook ^
00:54 cait it shoudl all swtich using the language switcher at the bottom
00:54 TGoat many folks in in the EU speak more than one langiage
00:54 cait doesn't have to
00:53 TGoat more than one language.. say a user chooses a language at login
00:53 cait i secretly hope someone will do authorised values next... becuase with locations and collections that would pretty much cover the OPAC
00:53 cait there is a new patch to provide that for the itemtype description
00:53 dcook ?
00:53 TGoat I understand. Ever think we'll get to the poin t that it can translate into more than one?
00:52 dcook ^
00:52 cait template things that won't change work well, but everything you enter into the database is harder
00:52 dcook ^
00:52 cait you can pretty much translate everything... having it in mulitple languages at once is a bit more difficult
00:51 cait to make things muddy again...
00:51 cait hm basicaly
00:50 TGoat in the NAVY we had a saying, "clear as mud". you've made it less murky :) much appreciated
00:49 dcook I try :). Hope it helped.
00:49 TGoat thanks cait and dcook. you've been very helpful!
00:48 TGoat right
00:48 TGoat I feel like if you don't ask the exact quesiton then you may miss it completely
00:47 cait you can 'switch on' the right content with css and hide the other
00:47 TGoat saying something can be translated seems so open ended
00:47 cait like if you want one of the opac html sysprefs be in multiple languages
00:46 dcook I left before they made the decision, so I've always wondered what happened
00:46 TGoat right.. but
00:46 dcook They said it was just a demo... but...
00:46 dcook And they showed us the French side... it was completely wrong
00:46 TGoat work around cait?
00:46 dcook I once needed a system in French and English
00:46 cait very far from perfect...
00:46 TGoat true that
00:46 cait using jquery and the like
00:46 dcook Google translate isn't perfect ;)
00:46 cait but there are workarounds
00:46 cait not for all things.. just item types
00:46 TGoat but with google translate nowadays you never know for sure
00:45 TGoat makes sense
00:45 dcook Database data doesn't get translated, but I believe newer versions of Koha allow for multiple languages to be stored for things
00:45 TGoat oh, that's what I was thinking. It has to be in the original language
00:45 dcook If it's in Arabic, it'll be displayed in Arabic
00:44 dcook If a MARC record is in English, it'll be displayed in English
00:44 dcook It won't be translated on the fly.
00:44 dcook No
00:44 TGoat like the MARC or patron data
00:44 dcook What do you mean by "the data that is being queried"? :p
00:44 TGoat the data that is being queried
00:44 TGoat duno why I've been getting so many questions about translation lately
00:43 dcook What does "data as it is presented" mean?
00:43 TGoat gotta a guy with the Gates Foundation asing me some questions
00:42 TGoat so just to be clear that's both the information on the pages and the data as it is presented .. right?
00:42 TGoat for sure..
00:41 cait we got a lot better about translatability
00:41 TGoat thanks rangi and cait..
00:34 cait i think even more like 99% these days
00:33 rangi so the marc frameworks are translated, the opac is, all the prefs are, and the help and staff interface are too
00:33 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org/ar/3.22/
00:33 rangi here
00:33 rangi you can check
00:33 rangi staff and client
00:32 rangi but 98% of it will be by then
00:32 rangi there are still a few bits untranslatable
00:32 rangi most of it yes
00:31 TGoat hey #koha if a language pack is complete (for this instance it's Arabic) does that mean Koha is translated completely into Arabic? Both OPAC and Staff-side? The external portions that show to patron and staff as well as the data/information that populates and displays the queries/results into the results fields.