Time  Nick        Message
00:41 eythian     ex-parrot: welkommen
00:41 ex-parrot   hey eythian
00:41 wahanui     go back to bed, eythian
00:41 ex-parrot   I just came to harass cdickinson
00:42 eythian     seems reasonable
00:42 ex-parrot   (koha is cool too)
00:42 dcook       ^
00:51 Francesca   I don't think cdickinson is around
00:52 ex-parrot   I managed to get ahold of him :)
00:52 cdickinson  I just got back, Francesca
00:52 Francesca   sup
00:54 Francesca_  ugh mac just crashed
01:33 eythian     what's the table that stores what permissions borrowers have?
01:35 eythian     oh
01:35 dcook       hehe
01:35 eythian     maybe user_permissions
01:35 eythian     or maybe not
01:36 eythian     it's hard to tell
01:36 dcook       Well, flags in the borrower table, and then I think a mix of..
01:36 eythian     ah
01:36 dcook       `permissions` i think is subpermissions?
01:36 eythian     I bet it's the flags one I want
01:36 dcook       I would think so
01:36 dcook       And then you compare that against...
01:36 dcook       `userflags`
01:37 dcook       Right, `userflags` has the permissions... `permissions` has the subpermissions...
01:37 dcook       In the best naming scheme ever
01:37 eythian     ikr
01:37 dcook       And I think `user_permissions` might store somethihng about subpermissions?
01:38 eythian     all I need to see is the users that have any permissions, so it's easy enough.
01:38 eythian     huh, it's weird seeing the name of someone I used to work with pop up in there.
01:38 eythian     oh, she used to work there too
01:38 eythian     I'd forgotten about that
01:39 eythian     ("there" being the client whose database I'm poking in)
01:39 eythian     http://beatonna.tumblr.com/post/132828069225/discardingimages-lions-beatus-of-li%C3%A9bana <-- unrelated
01:39 dcook       And people think there isn't any interesting data in library databases
01:39 dcook       The potential for data misuse seems fairly high to me...
01:39 dcook       hehe
01:39 dcook       I like that image
01:40 eythian     that's why we don't let people get to the database who aren't supposed to :)
01:42 eythian     oddly, I'm totally not finding the user I'm expecting to
01:43 eythian     maybe it's vanished
01:43 dcook       deletedborrowers?
01:43 eythian     nah, I expected it on staging, it's probably been zapped by a database refresh
03:08 dcook       eythian: I was just thinking... in theory Zebra could handle other formats than just MARC, yeah?
03:08 dcook       The problem would be with Koha
03:08 eythian     well
03:08 dcook       That it would try to get MARC out and that wouldn't work for non-MARC
03:08 eythian     Probably
03:08 eythian     but, I don't know if you can mix them up
03:09 eythian     however, it's way outside my scope of knowledge of zebra.
03:09 dcook       hehe
03:09 dcook       Fair enough
03:09 dcook       Yeah, it's outside mine as well
03:10 dcook       Thinking about all the different challenges we face with supporting different metadata formats...
03:11 dcook       Zebra is a free, fast, friendly information management system. It can index records in XML/SGML, MARC,
03:11 dcook       e-mail archives and many other formats, and quickly find them using a combination of boolean searching
03:11 dcook       and relevance ranking.
03:11 wahanui     relevance ranking is broken by QueryAutoTruncate
03:11 dcook       Shh
03:11 * dcook     wonders if he was the one who wrote that..
03:12 dcook       But even if you stored multiple things in Zebra... you'd need some sort of way to get them out..
03:12 eythian     yeah
03:12 eythian     Koha really expects marc formats
03:12 dcook       Yeah
03:12 dcook       I wonder how Zebra returns thing...
03:13 dcook       Does it store the original and its own internal record?
03:13 dcook       It certainly stores the latter..
03:13 dcook       If only windows would let me open things..
03:13 eythian     heh windows
03:13 eythian     I have no idea how zebra stores things
03:13 dcook       Kill windows with fire..
03:14 eythian     not ex-parrot, windows
03:14 eythian     zebra is mostly a mysterious black box to me
03:14 dcook       Fair enough
03:17 dcook       Come on, Zebra, tell me your secrets...
03:19 dcook       This install looks funny..
03:28 dcook       Ahhhh
03:28 dcook       "A parser for binary MARC records based on the ISO2709 library standard is provided, it transforms these
03:28 dcook       to the internal MARCXML DOM representation"
03:28 dcook       Actually, save the ahhh moment for later..
03:32 dcook       I think I understand everything except how it outputs usmarc..
03:32 dcook       iso2709 rather..
03:38 dcook       It doesn't store iso2709 internally... not even in GRS1
03:38 dcook       GRS1 used it's own internal format..
03:40 dcook       But we only care about DOM now..
04:01 dcook       So with DOM... it'll parse iso2709 into MARCXML... and it just stores MARCXML as MARCXML in the Zebra storage...
04:01 dcook       Which is why the identity.xsl will return MARCXML for "elements marc" and "elements marcxml"
04:01 dcook       Neato burrito
04:03 dcook       In theory you could index whatever into Zebra and get out MARCXML... so long as you could specify a XSLT to make it so
04:04 dcook       Although the smarter thing to do would probably be to define some sort of intermediary format...
04:04 dcook       Which would require re-doing all the XSLTs for course
04:05 dcook       Or would it..
04:06 dcook       You could actually expand the existing detail and result XSLTs...
04:06 dcook       Or refactor them to make the better...
04:06 dcook       We could have templates for discrete parts of the detail page
04:07 dcook       Title template, author, the rest, etc.
04:07 dcook       Well... that could be tricky..
04:07 dcook       Might get confusing for developers
04:08 eythian     that's sooorrrrttttaaa what I'm doing with ES
04:08 eythian     though, it's not really used
04:08 eythian     it could be though
04:08 dcook       How do you mean?
04:09 eythian     all the fields are converted (mappings) to things like "title" and so on
04:09 eythian     it's more aimed at searching though
04:09 eythian     I don't think putting display elements into the index is a good idea
04:09 eythian     I think putting the record in and converting it to display after fetching is better
04:09 dcook       Agreed
04:10 eythian     after all, you might want different displays in different situations
04:10 dcook       The XSLT for the detail page could check if it's MARCXML or whatever else
04:10 dcook       Yep
04:10 eythian     I think you would need an XSLT for each format you support
04:10 eythian     it's the only sane way
04:10 dcook       It would be the easier way :p
04:10 eythian     insofar as XSLT is sane
04:10 dcook       True that
04:10 dcook       You could do multiple ones..
04:11 dcook       And have one top level one
04:11 dcook       Well...what do I mean..
04:11 dcook       Really one XSLT
04:11 eythian     I suppose you could
04:11 dcook       You'd import the other ones in just to get access to their templates
04:11 dcook       The idea would be to make the search results and detail pages modular
04:12 dcook       So the XSLT needs to create certain blocks of HTML
04:12 dcook       Title, author, details, etc
04:12 dcook       And the way that each metadata format does that is up to its particular template
04:12 dcook       Which the top-level template will call depending on the metadata format
04:12 dcook       Easy peasy
04:12 eythian     yeah true
04:12 eythian     good thinking
04:12 dcook       Thanks
04:13 eythian     you could even have the XSLT extract parts and put them into XML, then that's rendered using a display XSLT
04:13 eythian     so you'll have a conversion XSLT for each format, but only one display one for each display situation.
04:13 eythian     e.g. results vs. detail vs. staff client
04:14 eythian     Alien vs Predator vs Brown vs The Board of Education
04:14 dcook       I'm not sure I entirely follow but I think I agree
04:14 dcook       Ah, yes, I getcha
04:14 dcook       That's another way of doing it
04:14 dcook       I think it would be more work in the short-term, but much smarter in the long term
04:15 eythian     little modular lego bricks :)
04:15 dcook       And you can specify that extraction XSLT in the Zebra config
04:15 dcook       Have an intermediate format that you can use for the display XSLT
04:15 eythian     can you do it per record?
04:15 dcook       per record type
04:15 dcook       So yes
04:15 eythian     ah OK
04:15 dcook       So I think search could be achievable
04:16 dcook       And in the short-term... I'm thinking that search is the most important thing
04:16 dcook       Because that leads you to external resources or to items
04:16 dcook       Items...
04:16 wahanui     i guess items is library-speak for books.
04:16 dcook       I suppose items is the next hurdle
04:17 dcook       (And facets for search)
04:17 dcook       Although the Zebra facets would get around that problem..
04:17 dcook       And you could even do facets the way we already do them and hard code them for different formats... which is ugly but doable
04:17 dcook       Just need to detect the namespace in the incoming record which is easy enough as well
04:17 dcook       Ah but not if we do the intermediary format
04:18 dcook       But then if we do the intermediary format, we could use a standard way of getting our own facets out
04:18 dcook       Bam!
04:18 dcook       Logic all over the place..
04:19 dcook       I suppose any multi-format effort would have to look at search... and item creation... possibly all cataloguing...
04:19 dcook       Well maybe not cataloguing. That could maybe be done later. As we could get the records in...
04:19 * dcook     is just babbling now
04:24 dcook       I wonder how it would work with RDF...
04:24 dcook       I suppose you can display RDF however you want
04:24 dcook       In terms of linked data, you'd just need to publish the original record at the prescribed URI
04:24 dcook       (and probably via a SPARQL endpoint)
04:25 dcook       And that's something that magnuse is already working on
04:25 dcook       was/is*
04:25 dcook       I think..
04:36 dcook       Although I guess with RDF it's much more difficult..
04:39 dcook       As sometimes you need to follow the link..
04:53 Amit_Gupta  hi dcook
04:53 dcook       hey Amit
04:57 Francesca   hey dcook
04:57 dcook       hey Francesca
04:57 wahanui     is waging a war against the video driver that continues to fail on her vm
04:57 Francesca   lol
04:58 Francesca   not anymore
04:58 Francesca   how goes aussie
04:58 dcook       Mmm it goes
04:58 dcook       Reading more about RDF :p
04:59 dcook       You?
04:59 wahanui     You are welcome
05:06 Francesca   apart from being welcome, I am kinda bored
05:06 Francesca   need a cat
05:06 Francesca   cats?
05:06 wahanui     The only good cat is a stir-fried cat.
05:07 dcook       Bored?
05:07 dcook       Cats will certainly keep you from being bored
05:08 Francesca   my cats are outside right now
05:08 Francesca   they dont want to cuddle me or entertain me
05:09 dcook       You could figure out how to integrate RDF into Koha :p
05:20 Francesca   what is RDF
05:20 wahanui     RDF is, like, just spinning round in circles on the water
05:20 Francesca   apart from that
05:20 dcook       resource description framework
05:21 Francesca   and what does it do
05:21 dcook       Example: http://dbpedia.org/page/Tim_Berners-Lee
05:21 dcook       Good question :p
05:21 dcook       In theory, it lets you link machine readable resources together
05:21 Francesca   ah
05:21 dcook       So look at that web page
05:22 Francesca   sorry don't know if I can help with that - interesting but I don't quite understand
05:22 dcook       I don't know if I understand quite yet either :p
05:22 Francesca   lol
05:22 dcook       The idea is that you have lots of datasets out there, and instead of copying the data... you put in a pointer
05:22 dcook       So for "birthPlace", you put a link to London rather than saying London
05:23 Francesca   huh
05:23 dcook       Well, let's use you for an example
05:23 dcook       Instead of using the plain text of your parents names in your record
05:23 dcook       You'd put in the URIs to their records
05:23 Francesca   ok
05:24 Francesca   so kinda just adding all the info in one place via links
05:24 dcook       So if we're trying to view a record on you, the server should parse your record, and realize that your parents are referred to at those URLs
05:24 dcook       Yep
05:24 dcook       So the server would fetch the records for your parents and display their info
05:24 dcook       How it decides what info to show... I don't know
05:24 dcook       I think that's up to the server... which is where it all falls apart imho
05:24 Francesca   lol
05:26 Francesca   server side I might not be as helpful
05:27 dcook       Well, you could do it via AJAX :p
05:27 dcook       I just figure your machine has to be programmed with some knowledge of the schema of the remote resource
05:28 dcook       I think there might actually be some facility for that with <rdfs:label/> in RDF/XML...
05:28 dcook       Which makes sense to me
05:28 Francesca   heh I've never worked in AJAX
05:28 dcook       If there is a RDF field to refer to the thing in plain text at its most base level
05:28 dcook       Well jeez, Francesca!
05:29 Francesca   lol
05:29 Francesca   my work mainly consists of looking at something and going hey can I re-style it
05:30 dcook       That's also good :)
05:31 Francesca   got any webpages that need styling
05:31 Francesca   I could do that quite quickly
05:31 dcook       Oh probably but not off the top of my head
05:32 Francesca   lol if you think of any you know where to find me
05:33 dcook       Sounds good ;)
05:35 Francesca   good luck with the RDF
05:36 dcook       Thanks
05:36 dcook       At the moment, I don't know how it could ever be useful for searching
05:37 dcook       Browsing for sure
05:37 dcook       If you have the record retrieved, it could show you all sorts of interesting links
05:37 dcook       But how do you retrieve that record?
05:37 Francesca   yeah
05:37 Francesca   an interesting problem for sure
05:37 dcook       For sure
05:38 dcook       I suppose you could query your RDF triple store and say who who has a reference to this URL?
05:38 dcook       But that's not very user friendly
05:39 Francesca   yeah
05:51 dcook       @later tell magnuse Yo, we should chat RDF!
05:51 huginn      dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:53 Francesca   dcook: if its any comfort I think my job searching is going about as well as the RDF
05:53 dcook       :(
05:53 dcook       That doesn't sound good
05:53 dcook       You're still in uni, yeah?
05:56 Francesca   yeah
05:56 Francesca   I was hoping to get an internship this year but things didnt work out
05:57 dcook       :(
05:59 Francesca   so now I have to find a summer job because work would be good
07:14 * magnuse   waves
07:17 magnuse     dcook: yeah, let's talk rdf at some point
07:20 magnuse     dcook: have you seen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Linked_Data_RFC - it's a braindump that is getting to be a few years old, but i think it still sums up my thinking on rdf and koha
07:33 marcelr     hi #koha
07:34 cait        morning all
07:34 cait        bbl
07:36 magnuse     hiya marcelr and cait
07:36 magnuse     ...and matts and fridolin
07:36 matts       hi !
07:36 fridolin    bonjour magnuse and all of u
07:37 magnuse     @wuner boo
07:37 huginn      magnuse: downloading the Perl source
07:37 magnuse     @wunder boo
07:37 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Falling).
07:49 reiveune    hello
07:50 magnuse     bonjour reiveune
07:57 alex_a      bonjour
08:12 jajm        hi
08:15 Francesca   hey jajm
08:17 * cait      waves
08:17 * Francesca waves back at cait
08:17 cait        hi Francesca :)
08:18 Francesca   sup :)
08:18 cait        did you have a nice weekend?
08:33 gaetan_B    hello
08:33 wahanui     hello, gaetan_B
08:42 Francesca   cait: yes, good weekend thanks
08:48 Amit_Gupta  heya gaetan_B
08:48 wahanui     i think gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons
08:50 gaetan_B    hi Amit_Gupta
09:34 fridolin    I have a problem with debian jessie + indexdata repo, libnet-z3950-zoom-perl can not be installed
09:34 fridolin    because of a dependancy on perlapi-5.18.2, but the version 5.20.0 is installed
09:34 fridolin    maybe  a problem with the packaging by indexdata
09:47 Joubu       hi #koha
09:47 cait        hi Joubu!
10:09 mveron      Hi #koha
10:14 Joubu       cait: Are you able to recreate the failure on the report tests?
10:15 Joubu       I have just recreated a fresh DB and the tests still does not fail for me
10:15 cait        only the one time
10:16 cait        not sure what needs to be done to get it back to the state before...
10:16 cait        it would point to something changing in the database then?
10:16 cait        i can try and load an older dump - but only tonihgt
10:17 cait        i was testing with my 'play' db - so ther are probably some reports
10:20 Joubu       Tomas told us that Jenkins loads a new DB now, so no reports should be there
10:20 cait        hm eah
10:20 cait        some variable not set the first time?
10:20 cait        I am really not sure why this happens
10:48 Joubu       @later tell tcohen please send me a dump of a DB to recreate the failure on Repots_Guided.t
10:48 huginn      Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:28 Amit_Gupta  hi cait
11:52 cait        first time patch writer.... someone around for testing? bug 15136
11:52 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15136 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, contact, Needs Signoff , Display item's homebranch in patron's fines list
12:11 drojf       hi #koha
12:18 tcohen      morning #koha
12:19 tcohen      Joubu: it is in /home/jenkins/koha_3_20_00.sql.gz
12:19 Joubu       ok thank
12:26 tcohen      Joubu: the problem I think is on side effects from previously run tets
12:26 Joubu       tcohen: the tests pass with this DB...
12:28 tcohen      Joubu: :-(
12:29 tcohen      maybe try to run the previously run tests (on jenkins list)
12:30 Joubu       tcohen: how do you generate the 'fresh' DB on jenkins?
12:30 tcohen      Joubu: only the file I mentioned earlier
12:30 tcohen      (3.20.0 + updatedatabase.pl)
12:31 Joubu       tcohen: I got some errors on updatedatabse: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table 'audio_alerts' already exists [for Statement "
12:31 Joubu       and some otheres
12:31 Joubu       so it's not a 3.20 db
12:31 tcohen      http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/lastCompletedBuild/console
12:31 Joubu       hum...
12:32 Joubu       ok I know, I haven't erase the previous DB, so the tables existed
12:32 tcohen      that sounds promising :-D
12:33 * tcohen    goes prepare coffee while the kohadevbox fires
12:33 * cait      waves
12:33 Joubu       ok drop + create + update + prove => ok
12:33 tcohen      Joubu: f*ck
12:34 tcohen      on jenkins, the only one failing is GetTopIssues.t, maybe is date-related?
12:34 tcohen      jajm: were you involved on GetTopIssues.t?
12:34 Joubu       no
12:35 Joubu       ha sorry :)
12:35 jajm        tcohen, yes i think...
12:36 tcohen      it's been failing for the last couple weeks
12:36 tcohen      if you have the time, i'd appreciate that you took a look
12:37 jajm        tcohen, where can I find the test output ?
12:37 tcohen      http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/572/console
12:37 jajm        thx
12:39 Joubu       jajm: at one point, the AI for biblio and biblioitems are not in sync anymore
12:39 jajm        17:33:39 [10:54:22] t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t ................. ok     9952 ms
12:39 jajm        tcohen, ^
12:39 Joubu       http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/lastCompletedBuild/console
12:39 Joubu       18:28:12 t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t               (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 0 Failed: 0)
12:41 tcohen      ah, wrong one
12:41 tcohen      heh
12:41 cait        tcohen: could you foward the latest release notes to my workmail maybe?
12:41 tcohen      I think it is TooMany.t's fault
12:42 tcohen      I'm regenerating them anyway
12:42 tcohen      jajm: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/lastCompletedBuild/console
12:42 tcohen      it's a problem with the tests
12:43 tcohen      and I had the test failing without biblionumber-bibioitemnumber divergence
12:44 tcohen      the problem is the biblioitemnumber retrieved is NULL
12:44 tcohen      don't ask me how that happens :-D
12:46 tcohen      jajm: to reproduce what i do is
12:47 tcohen      vagrant up jessie ; vagrant ssh jessie ; cat /vagrant/scp koha_3_20_00.sql.gz | sudo koha-mysql kohadev
12:47 tcohen      sudo koha-shell kohadev; cd kohaclone ; perl installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
12:48 tcohen      and then if you run prove t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t it passes
12:48 tcohen      (run it many times, it works)
12:48 tcohen      then run prove t/db_dependent/Circulation/TooMany.t prove t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t => FAIL
12:54 * magnuse   waves again
12:56 tcohen      jajm: ok?
13:16 tcohen      jajm: https://theke.io/static/koha_3_20_00.sql.gz
13:18 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:18 huginn      tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 29.0°C (10:00 AM ART on November 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
13:22 magnuse     @wunder boo
13:22 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (1:50 PM CET on November 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Steady).
13:22 magnuse     tcohen wins
13:23 tcohen      heh
13:30 jajm        tcohen, i reproduce the bug, investigating now... :)
13:30 tcohen      jajm: AWESOME
13:40 jajm        tcohen, is there a bz where i can send a patch or should I create a new one ?
13:41 tcohen      there's a bug i think
13:41 tcohen      Joubu: ?
13:42 tcohen      jajm: fill a new one
13:44 jajm        ok
13:45 Joubu       I didn't open it
13:48 jajm        tcohen, http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15158
13:48 huginn      04Bug 15158: minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t is failing in Jenkins
13:49 tcohen      jajm: i owe you a pastis bottle this time
13:49 mario       morning
13:49 jajm        tcohen, thanks, but i hate pastis... :)
13:49 tcohen      ok, so i'll keep the bottle :-P
13:53 cait        heh
14:03 pastebot    "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: the test" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/157
14:04 Joubu       tcohen: I suspect that it is mysql specific
14:05 tcohen      yeah, but that's what the DBIC people told on
14:05 tcohen      s/on/me/
14:07 tcohen      Joubu: the other option is to just create two consecutive biblios and check they have consecutive biblionumbers
14:07 tcohen      what do u think #koha
14:07 Joubu       this is certainly better
14:13 pastebot    "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: it even reads better :-P" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/158
14:21 tcohen      bug 15159
14:21 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15159 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , TestBuilder behaviour on AI values should be tested
14:24 tcohen      jajm++
15:05 cait        jajm: around? i had a line with pull downs showing up when i had applised the statistic wizard cataloguing patch
15:05 cait        no label in front
15:06 cait        it's still there with the patch applied
15:06 cait        the second row
15:07 cait        i have no idea what it does, the code refers to it as cotedigits.... ?
15:11 gaetan_B    in the cirulation rules the "Default checkout limit by patron category" says "For this library, you can edit rules for given itemtypes, regardless of the patron's category."
15:11 gaetan_B    but http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/default_borrower_circ_rules.html doesn't store the branch
15:12 gaetan_B    is it stored somewhere else or is the interface wrong?
15:13 gaetan_B    ok this is indeed stored elsewhere
15:21 xarragon    Hmm, I was changing C4::Members::Attributes.pm and tried running ./t/db_dependent/Members_Attributes.t which failed. It fails for current master as well as 3.20.3. Am I doing anythign wrong?
15:21 xarragon    1/60 Can't call method "default_privacy" on an undefined value at /var/koha/Koha/C4/Members.pm line 750
15:24 xarragon    Guess I need to check the test invocation, b/c the file is only 350 lines long
15:24 gaetan_B    cait: "cote" is the french word for "callnumber" maybe a bad translation from jajm ?
15:25 xarragon    Ah, I see.. probably need to have PWd be t subdir
15:25 jajm        cait, I don't have this row... :/
15:27 tcohen      xarragon: it is not failing in master for me
15:27 jajm        cait, ah yes I see... :)
15:27 tcohen      xarragon: are you sure you updated your db, etc?
15:28 xarragon    tcohen: I think I just invoked it wrong. Just checked the wiki.
15:29 xarragon    tcohen: I jsut called prove ./t/db_dependant/Members_Attributes.t
15:30 cait        jajm: did you find it? was making tea :)
15:31 jajm        cait, i don't know exactly what it's supposed to do, but it's in master too, maybe you should file a new bug for this ?
15:32 cait        yeah that's what i meant in my comment - old problem.. but gah. :)
15:32 cait        not going to force you to fix it ;)
15:33 jajm        cait, it's really nice of you :)
15:34 jajm        it's there since 2005 ...
15:34 cait        one of the old and weird things we have where probably noone knows what it's supposed to do... )
15:53 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15158: Fix t/db_dependent/Circulation/GetTopIssues.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e44c97829687d0eb57df8d84f0d3502ae3153bd> / Bug 14867: userid not generated when defined in BorrowerUnwantedField <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cbc65111c735e699d94d50ad09c17fb7b7b8913> / Bug 14388: Funds should be sorted by budget_code <http://git.koha-community.org/gi
16:06 tcohen      @later tell marcelr can we fix that "WARNING: You do not have upload_path..." thing? setting a default path and taking care of the installer creating it?
16:06 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:46 pianohacker hello
16:53 cait        hi pianohacker
17:11 gaetan_B    bye
17:17 reiveune    bye
17:47 wnickc      @later tell wizzyrea I redid bug 14739 for 3.18, give it a once over and let me know if you spot any problems
17:47 huginn      wnickc: The operation succeeded.
18:05 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14402: (QA followup) Add notes to usage text about --fees <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=02c69b218ad4a7a5e6aa7d390409de1d30a0ddbd> / Bug 14402: Make purge_zero_balance_fees() delete fees with NULL balance. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee6029c841840f82ba1d8c3c181bba8d55c43bc4> / Bug 14402: Add option --fees to /misc/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl <http:/
18:47 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8064: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e72482340f8a0274a6489dc08c8f9e4ac80be5f3> / Bug 8064: Fix unit tests for createMergeHash <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20636ce19476fb7f31ebef0264537cb1bec3ef54> / Bug 8064: Little fix for 003, 005, 008 in MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d87ea53560b411dd44e14
19:07 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15036: Do not overwrite complete status in basket ops <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a4dbbf1237c93e0233eef0600015c9be3320bf0>
19:31 tcohen      vagatn destroy jessie
19:31 tcohen      oops
19:31 tcohen      bye #koha
20:52 bdonnahue   hey guys is there a way to have koha import mark 21 records in batch?
21:11 pianohacker bdonnahue: yes, there's the stage marc records for import under Tools, there's the bulkmarcimport.pl script
21:18 bdonnahue   pianohacker: thanks
21:18 bdonnahue   is there any way to have koha "look up" a marc record from a reputable source like lib of congress and then import it if it is correct?
21:58 eythian     bdonnahue: yes, that's Z39.50 under the cataloguing screen
22:16 eythian     dcook: your email feels a bit stream-of-consciousness :)
22:16 dcook       eythian: Well... you know me
22:16 dcook       Definitely stream-of-consciousness
22:16 dcook       I really did intend it just to be about library size at first
22:16 dcook       :p
22:16 eythian     heh
22:17 eythian     it sure veers off
22:17 dcook       I figure no one is really going to read the whole thing anyway
22:17 dcook       Yeah, the size thing had to do with database size and I started thinking about how we probably could handle a lot more records than we do
22:17 dcook       I mean... I work on other databases with millions upon millions of rows and it's not a big deal
22:18 dcook       But it's more complex than that of course
22:18 dcook       eythian: I wrote a thing for library school students about how it would be wise to concentrate more on learning than marks
22:19 dcook       Closed it with </unsolicited rant>
22:19 dcook       Which a friend pointed out could be my middle name :p
22:19 eythian     haha
22:19 dcook       Whoops. Wrote eythian in the 40$c
22:19 dcook       Don't think you're the transcribing agency..
22:19 pianohacker ha!
22:19 eythian     I am now!
22:20 dcook       hehe