Time Nick Message 00:06 mveron Good night / daytime #koha 02:29 Francesca @wunder wlg 02:29 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on November 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 02:36 wizzyrea http://taiga.koha-community.org/project/koha-release-324/ 03:11 wizzyrea bug 15145 03:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15145 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, francescalamoore, NEW , Fix hover state on bugzilla theme header so it doesn't jump on hover 03:11 wizzyrea francesca ^ 03:11 Francesca sweet 03:11 wizzyrea bug 15144 03:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15144 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, francescalamoore, NEW , Fix dashboard font to be Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif for all text 03:11 Francesca heh 03:11 wizzyrea :) 03:11 wizzyrea you wanted things to do ^.^ 03:11 Francesca is it wrong that I'm excited to have actual bugs 03:11 Francesca I did 03:11 wizzyrea nope :) 03:11 Francesca I don't mind 03:16 mtj http://www.radionz.co.nz/programmes/first-person/story/201776580/first-person-with-john-campbell-apple's-high-ideals-and-low-tax-bill 03:16 mtj interesting ^ 03:17 wizzyrea whoa 03:18 mtj you couldnt make this shit up, huh.. 03:18 wizzyrea for real. 03:18 northcottc Hi everyone, how do you get debug messages from the Koha::Cache and C4::Items? I've been having a hard time debugging a cache addition I'm trying to do because I can't see any of the warns I'm putting in and would really appreciate any help 03:18 wizzyrea "cost of sales" my ass. 03:20 wizzyrea you're looking in the /var/log/koha/instance/intranet-error.log? 03:20 northcottc Yes I am 03:20 wizzyrea and you don't get anything at all? not even a "something went wrong?" 03:21 northcottc Not even that. 03:21 wahanui i guess not even that is cold :) 03:21 wizzyrea oh 03:21 wizzyrea um, in C4 items we don't have use warnings or modern:perl 03:21 wizzyrea use warnings is commented out in the one I'm looking at 03:22 wizzyrea (which should be master) 03:22 northcottc I have tried using carp and uncommenting use warningsit, but haven't had much luck. 03:24 wizzyrea hm, use Modern::Perl? 03:25 wizzyrea Carp is in the one I'm looking at 03:27 wizzyrea and Koha::Cache has both already 03:27 wizzyrea which I'm sure you knew :) 03:28 northcottc wizzyrea: But the warns I have in Koha::Cache haven't appeared either, and I don't know why :( 03:28 wizzyrea the only reason I know of why that happens is that you're not executing the code where the warn is 03:28 wizzyrea :/ 03:29 wizzyrea (sorry the really smart people are away from their desks atm) 03:30 wizzyrea this is the vagrant box ya? 03:30 wizzyrea er, the kohadevbox 03:33 northcottc wizzyrea: yes, it is. It's really unfortunate timing too, I need to get this fixed tonight :( 03:39 jcamins Off the top of my head, Koha::Cache degrades gracefully, so if your warn is assuming that there is caching happening, and the warn isn't being called, it might be because there's no caching happening. 03:39 * jcamins departs. 06:56 indradg hi #koha 06:59 * magnuse waves 07:06 indradg hi magnuse 07:11 * indradg scratching over staff client missing all styling after upgrade of ancient 2.2.8 07:13 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 07:13 mveron @wunder Allschwil 07:13 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 10.0°C (8:00 AM CET on November 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). 07:16 indradg good morning mveron 07:16 mveron Hi indradg :-) 07:16 indradg @wunder Kolkata 07:16 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 32.0°C (12:20 PM IST on November 06, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 07:17 mveron Oh, that is a little bit warmer... 07:17 indradg just a bit :P 07:17 mveron The best temperature is somewhere between... 07:18 magnuse @wunder boo 07:18 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:50 AM CET on November 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 07:19 mveron Oh, that is a little bit colder... 07:19 mveron Hi magnuse :-) 07:39 fridolin hie thereee 07:47 magnuse hiya mveron saiful Viktor fridolin reiveune 07:47 reiveune hello 07:48 * Viktor waves 07:48 mveron Hi everybody! What a bright day! 07:58 gaetan_B hello 07:58 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B 08:24 Amit_Gupta hi indradg 08:25 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a 08:25 indradg Hi Amit_Gupta 08:25 alex_a hello Amit_Gupta 08:26 * mveron waves 08:27 mveron 4 bugs left to so for C4::Dates removal / 2 for qa 08:27 putti Hi! 08:30 putti mveron, talking about bug 14954 ? 08:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14954 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from holiday related files in folder tools 08:30 mveron Hi putti 08:30 putti is there 3 more similar bugs? 08:31 mveron Search for "Remove C4::Dates" 08:32 mveron It is 14946, 14954, 14960, 14969 08:33 mveron drojf is working / signoffing on 14969 at them moment 08:33 putti okay 08:37 mveron :-) 08:48 putti mveron, misc/cronjobs/gather_print_notices.pl is using still C4::Dates, line 84 08:49 putti bug 14960 08:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14960 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, j.kylmala, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files in misc/cronjobs 08:49 mveron putti: Thanks for testing. I will have a look at it. Other things OK? 08:50 putti mveron, not sure yet! I Just got started with the code review 08:51 mveron Ok, I'll wait before I do follow-ups. 08:51 Francesca hi 08:54 putti mveron, in gather_print_notices.pl there wasn't any other dependencies to c4::Dates than the $today variable + it's dependencies.. but now let me look the other files 08:54 mveron putti: OK :-) 08:58 mveron Great, drojf is sign-offing 14969, putti is sig-noffing 14960... Remaining C4::Dates removal to sign-off are 14954 and 14946... 08:59 Francesca sig-noffing lol 09:00 mveron :-) 09:01 * mveron needs some more espresso 09:05 putti mveron, why the sub parse_letter got into this remove C4::Dates patch? O.o 09:05 mveron putti: Let me see... 09:06 drojf mveron: and mtompsett is listed for 14946 in trello 09:07 mveron putti: It seems that it came in when I amended to make the patch apply. Maybe I mitaked somehow. 09:08 putti Alright :P 09:08 mveron drojf: Oh yes, indeed... Remains14954... 09:09 * mveron ...mistaked.. Should put his glasses... or buy new ones... 09:15 Francesca wahanui coffee 09:15 wahanui http://www.workbuffer.org/presentations/pizza/images/coffee.jpg 09:23 * andreashm waves 09:23 * cait waves 09:25 * cait will be travelling without computer this weekend, so no more qa before sunday night i am afraid 09:26 drojf travelling without computer? you are weird 09:29 mveron cait: Gute Reise! 09:35 Joubu Good morning 09:35 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 09:42 Francesca lol wahanui 09:48 mveron Hi Joubu :-) 09:48 * mveron is back from a quadruple espresso... 09:49 Francesca lol feeling more awake now mveron? 09:50 mveron Francesca: Yes, a little bit... 10:00 Joubu fyi 3.18.12 is buggy, don't update 10:02 Joubu ok forget that, not critical 10:02 drojf Joubu: what is the problem? 10:02 wahanui https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg 10:03 drojf thanks wahanui, that was helpful 10:03 Joubu drojf: bug 14820 c8 10:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14820 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , SMSSendUsername and SMSSendPassword are not listed in the system preferences 10:18 cait drojf: a family thing... they won't let me use it anyway 10:20 cait Joubu: that explains the mail to the mailing list 10:20 Joubu cait: I have answered 10:21 cait Joubu++ 10:25 cait hi Traumatan 10:25 Traumatan hey 10:31 cait Joubu: if you have a second, could you maybe take a look at the last comment on bug 12224? i am not sure about the test question 10:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12224 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, j.kylmala, Failed QA , Allow easy printing of patron check-in slip 10:31 cait i'd love to see that move 10:34 Joubu commented 10:35 drojf cait: sounds scary :D 10:36 cait Joubu++ i asked the right person! :) 10:36 cait drojf: hm? 10:36 Joubu cait: he just needs to rebase, the problem is fixed in master 10:36 drojf the family thing :P 10:38 cait drojf: aah, they just expect me to talk to them i guess ;) 10:39 drojf good luck ;) 10:41 drojf later #koha 10:44 Joubu @later tell pianohacker do you know if someone's still using misc/maintenance/fix_accountlines_date.pl? 10:44 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 11:21 * mveron is called to lunch 11:24 drojf ok so mojolicious- and swagger-things are pushed now and i have to finally learn what that is? 11:25 cait guess so ;) 11:26 drojf if we will actually use it, i think i can do that ;) it was not really obvious to me what of all the things mentioned regarding the api would actually be used and did not bother to check everything ;) 11:31 Joubu yes we have it but without any guidelines to use it from Koha... 11:31 drojf that sounds like it should be fixed… soon 11:35 cait have a nice weekend all 11:42 drojf is "test prediction pattern" really supposed to start with the first issue publication date, not the subscription start date? 11:42 drojf in the serials module 11:42 drojf i would expect it to predict the pattern for what i am actually going to receive 11:43 drojf or i misinterpret the meaning of first issue publication date 11:44 drojf looks like there are two related bugs in bz 11:59 drojf can i add "see also" in bz? i thought i had seen that before, but i only have "depends on" and "blocks", both don't really apply 12:01 mveron-away drojf: Top right, below "Ignore Bug Mail"? 12:02 drojf ah, yes. thanks! i would have expected that on the other side with the rest. to small for me to see :D thanks 12:02 drojf mveron++ 12:15 * andreashm is back again. does the usual waving 12:15 * mveron waves back 12:16 * magnuse waves too 12:16 andreashm hi mveron, magnuse 12:16 mveron :-) 12:18 tcohen morning 12:19 mveron Hi tcohen :-) 12:21 magnuse tcohen! 12:21 wahanui tcohen is 122 12:21 magnuse uh huh? 12:22 andreashm hi tcohen 12:27 magnuse tcohen is 123 according to the current history.txt 12:29 mveron Joubu: About Bug 14985 - Are the changes to C4/VirtualShelves/Page.pm obsolete? 12:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14985 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from 6 files in folder C4/*.pm 12:29 Joubu yes 12:30 drojf putti: did you take over bug 14960 as assignee by accident? you should only do that if you are doing the patches, not if you are testing them :) 12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14960 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, j.kylmala, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files in misc/cronjobs 13:00 andreashm . 13:07 fridolin tcohen: bonjour 13:07 tcohen hi frido! 13:07 fridolin tcohen: you wanted me for Bug 15142 13:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15142 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, NEW , Titles facet does not work in UNIMARC 13:07 tcohen ah, yes 13:08 fridolin i have seen your last message 13:08 fridolin indeed, config is also wrong with GRS1 indexing :D 13:08 tcohen i supposed 13:08 fridolin maybe it is a only-MARC21 feat ? 13:08 fridolin any UNIMARC specialist ? 13:08 tcohen frido, i'm not sure why it is wrong 13:09 fridolin #MarcWars 13:09 fridolin :) 13:09 tcohen why you say... 13:09 fridolin tcohen: ah, simple facet will use su-ut index 13:09 fridolin su-ut => Subject 13:09 tcohen try applying the biblio-indexdefs-zebra.xsl (unimarc) to a marcxml with any of those fields 13:10 tcohen you will notice that no matter what indexes you have defined 13:10 tcohen the "facets" indexed are populated 13:10 fridolin oki 13:10 tcohen you will see <z:index name="su-ut:0">value<... 13:10 fridolin yep 13:10 tcohen i'm not saying the definition is correct 13:10 fridolin it is build with 5xx 13:11 tcohen only that facets vs. search indexes don't need to match 13:11 fridolin but in koha the link will try to search on Subject 13:14 fridolin Koha search limit uses the index no ? 13:14 fridolin I try to test on a 3.18 13:16 fridolin tcohen: i confirm, it doe not work 13:16 fridolin I have a UNIMARC + DOM with use_zebra_facets on 1 13:18 barton @seen ashimema 13:18 huginn barton: ashimema was last seen in #koha 1 day, 20 hours, 25 minutes, and 1 second ago: <ashimema> even 13:31 drojf whats the name of the koha statistics thing with the external server? 13:34 mveron http://hea.koha-community.org/ 13:35 mveron Administration preferences -> Share anonymous usage statistics 13:38 tcohen #koha: bug 15150 is a blocker for building the packages 13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15150 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , t/ tests should pass if Test::DBIx::Class is not available 13:38 tcohen please take a look if you have a minute 13:39 mveron drojf: Or do you mean Piwik for your own statistics? 13:39 drojf i meant hea 13:51 ashimema sorry barton, been bashing bugs in DBIx::Class::DeploymentHandler and Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 the past few days so havn't had a chacne to look at that bug yet. 13:51 ashimema will try to take a look over lunch 13:53 barton thanks ashimema! 13:57 tcohen oh fuck 13:58 barton ?? 13:59 tcohen if ( C4::Context->preference('NorwegianPatronDBEnable') && C4::Context->preference('NorwegianPatronDBEnable') == 1 ) { 13:59 tcohen load Koha::NorwegianPatronDB, qw( NLUpdateHashedPIN NLEncryptPIN NLSync ); 13:59 tcohen } 13:59 tcohen it requires DB access... to skip loading the lib (99% of the times) 13:59 barton ick. 13:59 tcohen it took me a while 14:00 tcohen to track it down 14:00 tcohen for bug 15151 14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15151 blocker, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t fails if no DB present 14:00 tcohen shouldn't we just require Koha::NorwegianPatronDB ? 14:00 barton oh, so that's a *good* 'oh fuck' :-) 14:01 barton in a manner of speaking. 14:05 tcohen any norwegian around? :-D 14:05 andreashm_away you mean magnuse? =) 14:06 tcohen magnuse: 14:06 magnuse huh? 14:08 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "magnuse: we need to get rid of this" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/153 14:11 drojf do we have big university libraries with koha other than in france? 14:12 andreashm soon 14:12 andreashm =) 14:12 misilot what's *big* ? 14:12 tcohen drojf: what do u call big? 14:12 drojf heh :) that is great but does not help 14:12 tcohen i work for a 100K students university 14:12 drojf tcohen: ah right you giot a university :) 14:13 tcohen and have 3 customers that are universities 14:13 drojf i would call that big, yes 14:13 * andreashm too 14:14 misilot guess a 10k student population (on campus / online) isn't that big in comparison for a university 14:14 andreashm tcohen: is that 100k in the database or students at the univ per semester? 14:15 tcohen that's the students that sign for courses at the beggining of the year, and have "some activity" 14:15 tcohen if we don't filter like that, the count is ~120k 14:17 magnuse tcohen: i think i did it like that so that everyone shouldn't have to install SOAP::Lite etc 14:17 andreashm around the same size as us then. we have 60-70k per semester 14:17 magnuse if there is a better way, that is fine by me 14:18 magnuse now i gotta run off and start dinner - visitors coming! 14:18 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "magnuse: would this work?" (43 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/154 14:19 mveron putti: I changed Bug 14060 following your comments from today morning - ready again to sign-off :-) 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14060 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove readonly on date inputs 14:19 mveron sorry, mistaked with the bug number... 14:19 mveron Bug 14960 14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14960 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files in misc/cronjobs 14:20 * mveron should finally put his glasses... And take another quadruple espresso... 14:26 andreashm time to go home. bye #koha 14:27 putti drojf, I took over it for testing. But now I know that in the future i won't do so when only testing :) 14:29 putti mveron++ 14:36 mveron kitoos, putti :-) 14:37 mveron putti++ 15:00 mveron Joubu++ Bug 15146 15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15146 trivial, P5 - low, ---, veron, Passed QA , Format date of birth on patrons requesting modification page 15:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15130: useless unitialization warnings when updating authorities <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c94dc79878c727b47f0617548613e1b7f5794a3> / Bug 14632: (QA followup) Restore missing "Delete batch" button. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3083387e1cd0945cb6ccea4c5eafbb01b176d984> / Bug 14632: Fix alert message for single item batch <http://git.koha-communit 15:19 xarragon Hmm, so is there a way to distinguish between empty strings and undef's/null with the output from CGI? 15:19 xarragon Or do i have to do that manually, converting empty strings to undef? 15:23 * mveron will be back in about 6 hours... 15:24 Joubu xarragon: I don't understand the question, what are you trying to do? 15:24 Joubu $query->param('empty') and $query->param('do_no_exist') will both return an empty string 15:25 xarragon Ok, but the manual says: "If the parameter does not exist at all, then param() will return undef in a scalar context, and the empty list in a list context." 15:26 xarragon http://perldoc.perl.org/CGI.html 15:28 xarragon But that is not the issue I am having.. I have a dropdown with a set of values or 'All', represented by an empty string/value. When not set, it defaults to all and I get an empty string. However, my code assumes an unset parameter to be undef. 15:29 xarragon So either I need to make CGI return undef, convert it or have my code accept an empty string as a null value. 15:29 Joubu xarragon: yes sorry, I have tested correctly. Seemed weird 15:30 xarragon Well I am basically just curious what the "best practice" is for building a form where controls can have a null value. 15:33 Joubu xarragon: $value = undef if $value and $value eq q|| 15:34 Joubu but you will have to deal with under vs empty string. Why don't you behave undef and empty string similarly? 15:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15150: Make t/ tests skip if Test::DBIx::Class absent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=946cbf71a767c47d5cbed71f5ba1f4110476290a> 15:47 drojf what package am i missing for Test::DBIx::Class? 15:54 drojf it's not libdbicx-testdatabase-perl. is it not available in wheezy maybe? i can't seem to find anything 16:22 putti How can I have a notice witch is in the state waiting? 16:22 putti witch* 16:23 putti which* 16:56 reiveune bye 17:04 gaetan_B bye 17:21 tcohen back 17:23 drojf hi tcohen 17:28 drojf all C4::Dates patches signed off apart from the one putti was working on 17:29 tcohen yay! 17:29 tcohen koha++ 17:38 * drojf heads home 18:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14202: Unexpected parameter for window.open in marc21_linking_section.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57d74255498ab428b887bf9022cc3eae6a8b8bf7> / Bug 11431: (QA followup) remove diags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c237ed7b352152e738894264bccbb15007ecb4ed> / Bug 15146: Format date of birth on patrons requesting modification page <http://git.koha-commu 18:17 tcohen qa? 18:17 wahanui qa is Quality Assurance? 18:17 tcohen ashimema or marcelr? 18:18 tcohen needs someone to qa 15151 18:18 tcohen so we can build the master packages 18:19 tcohen (for the beta ;-)) 18:33 tcohen byw #koha 18:47 ashimema on it 18:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14878: (QA followup) Remove useless diag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ce858491b86b6fe4f85c0cb5e50f66288c474b0> / Bug 14878: Tests - Create the branchcodes when needed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=142eb5ed387c2ef65df8a02f9d63bb531067da36> 19:00 ashimema done.. looks good 21:39 mveron Back from BuchBasel (Book festival) and... 21:40 mveron yay! all but one C4:Dates removal bugs signed-off! 21:40 mveron Koha++ 22:01 mveron Good night / daytime everybody