Time  Nick          Message
22:38 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
22:21 wizzyrea      I fixed it :)
22:20 jcamins       wizzyrea: FF just blocks Flash for me.
22:05 cdickinson    once you fix the typos and syntax errors of course
22:04 cdickinson    don't you love it when something just works immediately after a big rewrite
21:53 Francesca     lol
21:52 wizzyrea      also, that restriction would be a reason to make me stop using chrome if I did :/
21:51 wizzyrea      chrome isn't open source :P
21:51 cdickinson    which means you can't uninstall Flash :P
21:51 * Francesca   uses chrome
21:50 cdickinson    the only site that I use that still uses Flash is Stuff.co.nz
21:49 cdickinson    I'm almost ready to uninstall Flash entirely
21:46 wizzyrea      that's a terrible TIL but there you go.
21:46 wizzyrea      it was set to "ask to activate"
21:45 wizzyrea      addons -> plugins -> Shockwave Flash -> Never activate
21:45 wizzyrea      Yes you can
21:44 wizzyrea      I just want it to always block it
21:44 cait          haven't tried
21:43 wizzyrea      can I tell firefox to quit hassling me about blocking flash forever?
21:20 Francesca     I love it
21:19 wizzyrea      it was very festive :D
21:19 rangi         Francesca: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/22395590030/in/dateposted-public/
21:18 Francesca     yeah I will
21:18 wizzyrea      you could maybe leave it strong if you added some more margin or padding, not sure, give it a play.
21:17 Francesca     I can do something about that
21:17 Francesca     yup ok
21:17 wizzyrea      just something to think about
21:16 wizzyrea      I'm not sure I approve of the hover effect being a "strong" instead of a colour change, mostly because it surprises me that the text jumps. But, I don't feel so strongly about it that you have to change it
21:16 Francesca     dont think so
21:16 rangi         did you see my desk last year?
21:16 rangi         cool
21:15 Francesca     yeah I'll have a look at that as soon as I finish my halloween project
21:15 wizzyrea      *nod*
21:15 rangi         you could always grab those images and change their colours too if you wanted
21:15 Francesca     sweet
21:15 wizzyrea      cool.
21:14 cait          sounds good to me
21:14 wizzyrea      If people find problems in the theme, suggest they should file bugs under website and I'll assign them to Francesca?
21:13 Francesca     lol ok
21:13 cait          don't!
21:13 * Francesca   dies of excitement
21:13 wizzyrea      I like it, it's pretty.
21:13 wahanui       well, mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
21:13 cait          mailing list?
21:12 cait          maybe we can advertise it :)
21:12 rangi         (if they have changed their theme ever that is)
21:12 Francesca     ok
21:12 rangi         its switched to the default, i think it might just apply to new users .. existing users might have to switch it themselves
21:11 pianohacker   +1
21:10 cait          +1 frem me
21:10 Francesca     they're back
21:10 rangi         if people like it, I can switch it to the site default
21:09 rangi         hows that now?
21:06 Francesca     whoops
21:06 Francesca     uhh I didn't do anything with the images so yeah I guess I just missed them
21:06 Francesca     yay thanks
21:06 cdickinson    Francesca++
21:05 wizzyrea      Francesca++
21:05 cait          Francesca++!
21:05 cait          it's really nice
21:05 wizzyrea      yeah probably just missed adding them in your commit?
21:05 rangi         i think i can fix it by copying the images over 2 secs
21:05 Francesca     don't know why those images have vanished
21:05 Francesca     ok
21:05 wizzyrea      \o/ yay for matching
21:05 Francesca     oh wow I see what you mean
21:05 wizzyrea      tis pretty!
21:04 Francesca     thanks
21:04 pianohacker   it's pretty tho
21:04 pianohacker   oh heh yeah
21:04 Francesca     give me a sec
21:04 Francesca     huh weird
21:04 rangi         looks like we are missing some images?
21:04 rangi         then go to http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/
21:03 rangi         and set the skin to koha
21:03 rangi         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi
21:03 rangi         Francesca: if you go to
20:46 pianohacker   we could put it on the github repo description (it shows up at the top)
20:46 cait          but i have no idea how and where
20:45 cait          maybe we shoud put some information somewhereon github...
20:45 wizzyrea      but hate the idea that someone would have to watch both queues.
20:45 wizzyrea      I sometimes wish that we could come up with a workflow that used pull requests
20:41 cait          hm tried to
20:38 pianohacker   tell them to file a bug :)
20:37 cait          hmwhat do we do with pull requests on github? https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/pull/8?
20:34 cait          or i hope...
20:33 cait          my guess was that it happened when the record was still in zebra index..
20:33 cait          i don't hope so
20:32 pianohacker   does koha seriously use what's already in the 999 on import?
20:32 pianohacker   oh fleebus I just saw the email about reusing deleted biblionumbers
20:31 cait          compared to other systems - they all look so different :)
20:31 cait          i like that with koha there is lots if individuality
20:30 Francesca     I like all of them
20:30 cait          waitaki is cool
20:29 Francesca     that last one is really nice
20:28 cait          thx all!
20:28 cait          i like the greens
20:28 rangi         http://obs.library.workbuffer.org/ <-- bootstrap
20:28 wizzyrea      yeah that's one they did themselves, a nice example
20:27 rangi         http://library.waitaki.govt.nz/ bootstrap
20:27 Francesca     lol
20:27 * cait        feels a bit like she is cheating with her homework
20:27 wizzyrea      we have so many others that are simply gorgeous, but they aren't public.
20:26 cait          great picture
20:26 wizzyrea      but all of the other ones I sent are.
20:26 wizzyrea      possibly not the last two
20:26 cait          wizzyrea: i think not bootstrap yet?
20:26 cait          wizzyrea: hehe
20:25 wizzyrea      http://www.stratfordlibrary.govt.nz/
20:24 wahanui       wizzyrea: I forgot demo.mykoha.co.nz
20:24 wizzyrea      forget demo.mykoha.co.nz
20:24 wizzyrea      ^ cait
20:24 wahanui       somebody said demo.mykoha.co.nz was runnign it now
20:24 wizzyrea      demo.mykoha.co.nz
20:23 wizzyrea      please note they did those logos at the bottom themselves ha
20:23 wnickc        I got vetoed every time I tried to add pink into our system
20:23 wizzyrea      http://ils.stdc.govt.nz/
20:22 cait          ;)
20:22 Francesca     no
20:21 cait          are you saying pink was not pretty?
20:21 Francesca     ohh the second one is pretty though
20:21 wizzyrea      that's their corporate style ^.^
20:21 Francesca     its pink!
20:21 wizzyrea      hewitson.mykoha.co.nz as well
20:21 wizzyrea      ihc.mykoha.co.nz is a nice public one
20:21 cait          thx a lot :)
20:20 cait          yep they are pretty!
20:19 cait          we have changed the colors on ours.. .but they are still a bit plain :)
20:19 nengard       I like the last 3 best
20:19 cait          thx a lot :)
20:19 nengard       of course they're all ours ... but still nice
20:18 nengard       I use them in demos
20:18 nengard       :)
20:18 cait          nengard++
20:18 wahanui       That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cait
20:18 cait          oh awesome!
20:18 nengard       cait i have a list
20:17 cait          still looking for nice customized bootstrap opacs... :)
19:34 huginn        mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 10.0°C (8:20 PM CET on October 29, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
19:34 mveron        @wunder Allschwil
19:34 mveron        Hi again #koha
19:27 rangi         not by design
19:27 rangi         yeah it would happen by accident
19:27 * cait        doesn't want to try and find out
19:26 cait          maybe ... if the zebra index still had the deleted record - then they would match... and the overlay could..
19:26 cait          hmmm
19:23 cait          you like the chaos eh?
19:23 cait          i answered too.. now let's see how it can get worse :)
19:23 * jcamins     is morally opposed to referential integrity.
19:23 jcamins       We can single-handedly DESTROY ALL REFERENTIAL INTEGRITY!
19:22 * cait        disagrees about giving up being a great idea
19:22 jcamins       rangi: this is a great idea!
19:15 rangi         i give up
19:15 rangi         yay misinformation about biblionumbers ... and a horrible idea of reusing deleted ones
18:46 pianohacker   nengard_mtg: ah, yeah. I'd email tcohen
18:45 nengard_mtg   well that didn't work
18:45 nengard_mtg   table&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=BLOCKED&f1=keywords&list_id=144964&o1=equals&query_format=advanced&v1=rel_3_22_candidate
18:45 nengard_mtg   http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=In%20Discussion&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&bug_status=Signed%20Off&bug_status=Passed%20QA&bug_status=Pushed%20for%20QA&bug_status=Failed%20QA&bug_status=Patch%20doesn%27t%20apply&bug_status=Pushed%20by%20Module%20Maintainer&bug_status=Pushed%20to%20Master&bug_status=Pushed%20to%20S
18:44 nengard_mtg   piano not sure that search worked
18:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Professional cataloger's interface
18:43 pianohacker   check bug 11559
18:43 pianohacker   nengard_mtg: I think there's a 3.22 candidate tag on bugzilla
18:43 nengard_mtg   I'm working on getting the manual up to date
18:43 nengard_mtg   is there a way to see what features have been pushed 3.22 so far - like a pre-release notes?
18:21 * pianohacker waves
18:18 * cait        waves
17:29 bag           ashimema++
17:25 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11881: QA follow-up - rename class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=05d377042715261f0a905cb505ee3b5098651626> / Bug 11881: Small improvements for Items available for reference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5adb2268f0a51c3c2675cdc7bea9c8bdefdc48a7> / Bug 11881: Small improvements for the availability informations in the search results... <http://git.koha-
17:22 gaetan_B      bye
16:38 bag           silly permissions can only keep me down for a little bit of time
16:37 bag           muhahahaha
16:37 bag           sweet I’m back
16:16 Joubu         bye #koha
16:16 * Joubu       will be back tomorrow
16:15 * mveron      will be back later in the evening
16:03 reiveune1     bye
15:55 pianohacker   Still, goodness gravy
15:55 pianohacker   ... yes. I should probably put in my contacts
15:55 Joubu         acqui/ you mean
15:54 pianohacker   admin/currency.pl is terrifyin
15:54 pianohacker   oh my goodness gracious
15:54 Joubu         I am not sure how risky it is actually
15:54 Joubu         [off] and have a look at 15083
15:53 Joubu         pianohacker: I let you git grep  :)
15:53 pianohacker   (that last fixme)
15:53 pianohacker   where the heck was that?
15:52 * mveron      feels with Joubu
15:52 Joubu         [off] And this fixme made my day : # FIXME: CHECK AUTH
15:49 drojf         heh
15:49 Joubu         Thanks Koha for that
15:49 Joubu         You start to rewrite a simple script with 100lines and you finish with 7 patches modifying 30 different files, adding 1 DB column, removing 1 unused file and adding a missing FK...
15:47 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the currency related code to Koha::Acquisition::Currenc[y|ies]
15:47 Joubu         ashimema: bug 15084
15:46 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Elasticsearch support for Koha
15:46 Joubu         the easy solution is bug 12478 ;)
15:44 tcohen        the facets slowliness is non-sense
15:44 tcohen        ill try again
15:42 drojf         we'll see if anything comes out of it
15:41 drojf         i did, kind of
15:40 tcohen        but you can try too :-D
15:40 tcohen        sort of
15:39 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13665 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from zebra is slow
15:39 drojf         tcohen: have you spoken to indexdata people about bug 13665?
15:14 misilot       thanks :) *
15:14 misilot       thanks :(
15:13 misilot       ah so it won't pull attributes. Ok
15:13 matts         Nope, CAS just says if the auth is ok or not, no more, no less.
15:10 misilot       ahh probably a version further then 3.18. Is there an attribute mapping for CAS like LDAP? I looked through the documentation a while ago but didn't remember finding it
15:09 huginn        04Bug 13507: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Add intranet support for CAS authentication
15:09 matts         misilot, yes it does : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13507
15:08 misilot       matts: does CAS work with the staff side as well? or just the OPAC?
15:05 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14931: (qa followu-up) small improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a636f2223cec1c190b7379529eba88c8c584ab70> / Bug 14931: (Follow-up) Validate date entry in contracts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f461de794b2538319f67b266e2c90228f46eb3ad> / Bug 14931: Remove C4::Dates from files admin/aq*.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
14:59 drojf         it did sound interesting. we'll see
14:59 mveron        drojf: Hope it helps  :-)
14:58 drojf         thanks for the fwd, i got it from several people :D
14:58 mveron        hi drojf :-)
14:58 drojf         hi mveron
14:57 mveron        hi tcohen :-)
14:56 tcohen        mveron
14:56 tcohen        hi mveon
14:49 mveron        Hi again #koha
14:14 Oak           hola señorita nengard
14:05 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14100: (QA followup) add missing mocked sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=201935cb6244e652f6a5d3b239a88ad869af6e2f>
14:01 nengard       hola Oak
14:01 * Oak         waves
13:02 cait          ah cool, it's the first time we have encountered it :)
13:01 matts         Hmm, I don't know, I would say between 5 and 10 (rough guess)
13:00 cait          do yu use it with a lot of institutions currently?
13:00 matts         yep, but enabling DEBUG in koha will be very helpful
12:59 cait          does it work well in Koha currently?
12:59 cait          the usual trouble :)
12:59 cait          understandable
12:59 matts         Not to mention inbetween firewalls and such
12:59 matts         Because the CAS server is often setup by another entity than the koha, if something goes bad, it will be hard to get the CAS server's logs, in order to understand what's happening.
12:58 matts         Hmm.... The koha part is easy to setup. However, in my experience, you *will* experience troubles.
12:57 cait          in general - how hard is it to set up with koha?
12:57 cait          matts ^^
12:57 matts         shoot :)
12:57 cait          I got questions about CAS - do you have a moment?
12:57 cait          hey :)
12:53 matts         and now I'm back :)
12:53 matts         cait, yep ?
12:41 cait          now he is away....
12:41 cait          matts_away: oh
12:41 tcohen        \o/
12:38 magnuse       \o/
12:36 druthb        Hi, tcohen.  :)
12:35 tcohen        hey druthb
12:35 druthb        \o/
12:33 tcohen        hi
12:27 huginn        druthb: The current temperature in Waller, TX ProjNevada, Waller, Texas is 14.4°C (7:25 AM CDT on October 29, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
12:27 druthb        @wunder 77447
11:54 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14100: Fix Search.t tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9426ddfc5c4b9bc91f39117e7a96adc1aae47ef> / Bug 14100: Fix t/db_dependent/Items.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c103508b2d631a2b70dda005763b4d50b3d289b> / Bug 14100: Fix test xt/author/valid_templates complaining on opac-topissues.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff
11:49 tcohen        JOubu: I was sure I pushed them! sorry for that
11:42 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 17.0°C (8:40 AM ART on October 29, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
11:42 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
11:30 magnuse       give it a decade or so...
11:29 * ashimema    just tried three time to exit postgres.. exit and q are far to quick to my fingers.. q isn't yet :(
11:28 ashimema      now that would be cool
11:27 ashimema      [off] not got mine yet :(
11:27 drojf         not sure yet if we could integrate it in the koha-create process
11:26 drojf         [off] heh. awesome!
11:25 cait          [off] gmcharlt seems ahead of you :) https://twitter.com/gmcharlt/status/659551636831010817
11:22 drojf         [off] got my letsencrypt beta invite :)
11:19 ashimema      coolios
11:19 ashimema      :)
11:19 cait          you answered that - plugin :)
11:19 cait          ah thing
11:19 ashimema      I'm not sure what you meant?
11:19 ashimema      you asked how were doing new items hinting..
11:19 cait          hm?
11:18 ashimema      new items hinting?
11:17 ashimema      (with one tiny alteration to fetch the covers from a paid for provider they already had a subscription for)
11:17 cait          khall++ :)
11:17 cait          it's nice
11:17 cait          oh
11:17 ashimema      the cover thing it khalls plugin
11:17 cait          sneaky
11:17 cait          aah
11:17 ashimema      does for js too.. just stick a load into the top of opacuserjs and the first thing it will do is retrieve the js file from the server
11:16 cait          the cover thing... how? heh
11:16 ashimema      it does indeed :)
11:16 ashimema      but it is all doable via config ;)
11:16 cait          i think koha supports that - at least for the css file
11:16 ashimema      that was because they added so much that the db couldn't fit it all into the field..
11:16 cait          makes sense
11:16 ashimema      Having said that.. I think at the very end we moved the config opacusercss and opacuserjs into a pair of files on the server...
11:15 cait          how are you doing the new items hting?
11:15 cait          heh
11:15 ashimema      was a nightmare
11:15 cait          perfect :)
11:15 ashimema      all in config
11:15 ashimema      it'll save you a shed load of db calls
11:15 ashimema      and call it in array context.. then loop the array of results..
11:15 cait          ashimema: did they cheat or is it all in config? :)
11:14 ashimema      putti.. if you know before hand that you actualy want all the results.. add ->all instead of ->next onto the end..
11:14 cait          matts: around?
11:14 putti         Let's see
11:14 ashimema      cait: those guys are pretty arty.. being an arts university
11:13 ashimema      in fact.. In dbic I'm not even sure you actually ened to call search.. resultset('Whatever')->next should also do the trick I think
11:13 ashimema      that's how you would in dbic ;)
11:12 ashimema      at least I believe that's somehing we've done transparently via koha::objects
11:12 putti         thanks
11:12 ashimema      so ->search();
11:12 putti         alright :)
11:12 ashimema      putti.. just call search without any params
11:11 ashimema      cait: https://ual.koha-ptfs.co.uk/
11:10 putti         how can I use koha::objects to go trough all the objects (not limited by any search)?
11:08 cait          oh if someone has a nice bootstrap opac to share - i am lookig for examples:)
11:07 ashimema      but that where I would have started :(
11:07 ashimema      I haven't actually tried it yet
11:07 ashimema      oh.. really
11:06 ashimema      http://paste.koha-community.org/149
11:06 Joubu         so it's hard to know if an attr is passed or not
11:06 Joubu         That's what I am doing, but there are several ways to call search
11:05 ashimema      so will paste
11:05 * cait        loves to see devs talking on irc about dev things... :)
11:05 ashimema      can do a similar overload I believe
11:05 ashimema      the dbic guys just pointed out that the txn_do needs a sub ;)
11:04 pastebot      "ashimema" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "wrapped delete" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/148
11:03 Joubu         for instance archived = 0 if archived is not given to the search method
11:03 Joubu         ashimema: and do you know how could I set a default value for search?
11:02 ashimema      but I might be wrong.. never tested it
11:02 ashimema      else I don't think dbic can step in and be clever..
11:02 ashimema      but.. I believe you probably have to call the top level transaction using the dbic schema.. not a plain dbi handle..
11:01 ashimema      unless I'm mistaken..
11:01 ashimema      https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/DBIx-Class/lib/DBIx/Class/Manual/Cookbook.pod#TRANSACTIONS
11:01 ashimema      I'm reasonably confident you can nest transactions in dbic
11:01 ashimema      hmm.
11:00 ashimema      data integrity++
11:00 * cait        agrees :)
11:00 Joubu         maybe Dbix::class does, but not sure about that
11:00 Joubu         DBI didn't support encapsulated txn
11:00 Joubu         ashimema: we have a problem with transactions: we used them for tests.
11:00 ashimema      Joubu++ #for being generally awesome
10:59 cait          Joubu++ for doing a lot in that area and in general :)
10:59 ashimema      Joubu that paste was meant to be for you.. I'd do somthing like that in the result class
10:58 ashimema      oops..
10:58 pastebot      "ashimema" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "wrapped delete" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/147
10:41 putti         Koha::Object is really good! We need to change all the code to use it because it so easy to use and maintain! :P
10:39 putti         Joubu++
10:31 magnuse       Joubu++
10:22 putti         Thanks!
10:22 putti         Joubu, ok, now I see how I should do it :)
10:21 putti         Joubu, haven't checked out these
10:19 Joubu         putti: 14889, 14836, 13828, 10363 (pushed), 14888 (pushed)
10:19 * Joubu       always pastes the them bug numbers...
10:18 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8369 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , default_branch_circ_rule and default_circ_rules tables useless
10:18 putti         Bug 8369
10:16 putti         Joubu, last bug I rember you messaged me was about also refactoring issuing rules, do you mean that?
10:15 putti         Joubu, which bugs? I guess not.
10:14 Joubu         putti: did you check the bugs I gave you yesterday?
10:13 putti         I mean that do we call, for example, Koha::Item->new() everywhere and not some wrapper which then calls it.
10:12 putti         magnuse, yeah. I'm just not sure if the Koha::object implementation is enough abstraction. Have people done usually some other modules for adding/rmving/updating/etc. objects, for example, Koha::Item? Or is Koha::Item (&Items) the only way to manipulate items?
10:09 magnuse       C4 is what we are trying to get away from
10:09 magnuse       putti: the code you should be looking at is in the Koha:: namespace
10:06 putti         Is C4/Reserves.pm considered bad design? If it is, are there any good example(s) which I may take a look at about how it's implemented in OO way?
09:47 magnuse       kia ora atheia
09:22 magnuse       run mveron run
09:21 * mveron      is running out of time - and has to run.
09:21 magnuse       liw: ah, tricksy!
09:21 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14954 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove C4::Dates from holiday related files in folder tools
09:21 mveron        Joubu asked for a second sign-off for Bug 14954 , I would really appreciat if anybody could take care of it.
09:21 magnuse       liw: yup that's the one :-)
09:19 liw           (there're I think three pictures from that time circulating the Internet, sometimes attributed to me, but that attribution is wrong -- I only uploaded them to an ftp site, with the photographer's permission)
09:19 mveron        Hi #koha
09:17 liw           magnuse, http://www.linux.com/news/galleries/1-linus-torvalds-in-pictures/1 -- like that?
09:15 liw           magnuse, magnuse does it contain a beer bottle?
09:11 magnuse       liw: btw: i bought linux voice in an airport recently, and lo and behold, on one of the first pages was an old pic of linus, credited to one lars wirzenius :-)
09:10 liw           magnuse, well played :)
09:09 magnuse       http://div.libriotech.no/files/2015/stormen.jpg
09:09 magnuse       liw: oh wait, something like this perhaps?
09:08 cait          :(
09:08 cait          but... i don't manage to :
09:08 cait          to not confuse students about electronic resources and other things
09:07 cait          hm i want to hide the availabiltity line in opac results if all it says is 'no items available"
09:07 magnuse       oh please do! :-)
09:06 liw           I thus conclude that I need to visit more places in person
09:05 magnuse       yeah, sounds very impractical
09:04 liw           I'm thinking some kind of tiny colourful spots arranged in a matrix, with colours carefully chosen so their arrangement mimics the reality, but finding someone to choose the invidial colours doesn't seem likely: you'd need dozens, maybe hundreds of them
09:03 magnuse       hm, got any suggestions on how to accomplish that?
09:02 liw           we need a way to communicate that kind of thing without having to resort to describing it in words, so the receivers get a clearer, more accurate impression of the reality
09:00 magnuse       lots of small fishing boats just outside the window, snow capped mountains, not a cloud i sight...
09:00 magnuse       cait: oh yes
08:44 drojf         hi cait, magnuse and gaetan_B
08:43 cait          enjoying the view?
08:43 cait          morning magnuse :)
08:43 * magnuse     waves from the public library in Bodø
08:42 gaetan_B      hello
08:42 cait          morning drojf
08:41 drojf         morning #koha
08:27 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:27 Joubu         @later tell tcohen they fix all master failures actually :) (except the guided report ones)
08:26 huginn        Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:26 Joubu         @later tell tcohen yes Search.t is broken but the last 3 patches on 14100 fix it
08:03 wahanui       privet, Joubu
08:03 Joubu         hi
08:02 alex_a        bonjour
07:52 reiveune      hello