Time  Nick              Message
21:10 cait              *sleepy cait is now confused*
21:09 pianohacker_DND   tell Katrin I said hi, sleepy cait
21:09 cait              *sleepy cait waves back*
21:09 cait              :)
21:08 * pianohacker_DND waves at assorted kohaers
19:29 cait              ohoh
19:29 tcohen            gotcha
19:28 tcohen            hi cait
19:18 * cait            hides
19:08 tcohen            oh, jenkins is unstable!
19:03 * cait            waves
18:58 druthb            Hi!. :)
18:56 TGoat_Demo        HI Nicole
18:56 nengard_demo      Hi everyone demoing for a library say hello if you're around
17:13 cait              bye all :)
17:12 cait              ok, need to pack up here
17:12 cait              :)
17:09 pianohacker_DND   if you have time to QA this weekend, I have time to fix any issues you find this weekend :)
17:09 cait              probably won#t get around to test before tomorrow
17:09 cait              i know... running out of time htis week - still at work
17:08 pianohacker_DND   know you're busy, just checking in
17:08 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Professional cataloger's interface
17:08 pianohacker_DND   cait: any progress on bug 11559 QA?
16:23 * druthb          nods.
16:23 wahanui           She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know?
16:23 druthb            wahanui:  druthb?
16:23 * druthb          pokes wahanui with a pointy stick.
15:48 wahanui           well, it's morning somewhere, yes
15:48 pianohacker       good morning
15:27 reiveune          bye
15:12 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14778: Remove t/Acquisition/Invoices.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=371c08281e425309411da62b32eab4c4c14f8b04> / Bug 14778: Mock the dbh for t/db_dependent/Search.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1e8497140bfc310a3e3d4f85c46777324d96c96> / Bug 14778: Make Barcodes_ValueBuilder.t db dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif
15:08 andreashm         time to go home. bye #koha
15:05 cait              bye Joubu
15:04 Joubu             have a good w-e #koha!
15:04 * Joubu           redirects jenkins' emails to the spam folder for the w-e
15:03 tcohen            later actually!
15:03 * tcohen          runs at the right time
15:03 khall             bye!
15:03 tcohen            ;-)
15:03 tcohen            bye #koha
14:46 Joubu             ???
14:46 Joubu             ok 8 - Correctly removes only final LIMIT (with offset)
14:46 Joubu             and
14:46 Joubu             not ok 8 - filter takes report id
14:46 cait              i can only say i am sure it ested it :(
14:46 Joubu             tcohen: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/%28root%29/t_db_dependent_Reports_Guided_t/filter_takes_report_id__838_/
14:46 Joubu             jenkins is failing because of this test file, and it fails locally
14:46 cait              sosomething else changed?
14:46 Joubu             cait: I am using master
14:45 cait              did you apply both patches?
14:45 cait              Joubu: weird about the opac-topissues patch - i am sure I ran the tests
14:35 Joubu             me too
14:35 tcohen            I'mk using jessie
14:35 ghoulmann         cait, thank you
14:35 tcohen            i get KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml everywhere
14:35 Joubu             yes
14:35 tcohen            Joubu: have you pulled the latest ansible branch?
14:34 tcohen            vagrant@kohadevbox:~$
14:34 tcohen            KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml
14:34 tcohen            vagrant@kohadevbox:~$ set | grep KOHA
14:34 Joubu             yes
14:34 cait              thx - hope to get to it before the deadline
14:34 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14248 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, xarragon, Signed Off , Optionally display authorship for news items
14:34 cait              bug 14248
14:34 tcohen            KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xm
14:33 Joubu             tcohen: yes
14:33 wahanui           somebody said reports library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
14:33 cait              reports library?
14:33 drojf             ghoulmann: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Query_MARC
14:33 cait              take a look at the example sin the reports library
14:33 cait              ghoulmann: there are xml functions in mysql
14:33 tcohen            sudo koha-shell kohadev?
14:33 tcohen            ??
14:32 Joubu             tcohen: kohadevbox:ansible $KOHA_CONF I get <pass>password</pass>
14:28 ghoulmann         in bibliographic record, we have a field called notes we think. Inside notes, there's 526 interest level. I think this is a blob of xml within a field. We'd like to pull out that insterest level from the ....blob.
14:27 mtompset          cait: 14248 is rebased and set back to signed off again. :)
14:26 cait              well your results depend on this... in general you can get out any field into a report
14:26 cait              i think
14:26 cait              depends on how it's cataloged
14:24 ghoulmann         I'm trying to generate a query to pull "interest level" out of the general note field to produce a report. Is this possible?
14:18 tcohen            maybe something from Interpol?
14:17 * tcohen          wonders what will be this one's song
14:17 tcohen            when Jared released 3.12 I remember I was hearing Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life) from Green Day a lot, and that's how I remember that release
14:13 tcohen            Joubu++
14:13 tcohen            khall++
14:13 tcohen            ashimema++
14:13 khall             ashimema: will do!
14:13 tcohen            khall: great
14:13 * ashimema        goes back to the RESTful base followups
14:12 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14778 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DBIC should create/own the DB handler
14:12 ashimema          khall bug 14778 is singed off now.. feel free to add your QA stamp (knowing I've run the qa script already ;) and tested the code pretty thoroughly)
14:12 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15053 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , sample_creator_data.sql now fails during a fresh install
14:12 khall             tcohen: bug 15053
14:09 tcohen            ashimema++
14:07 khall             passed every time
14:07 khall             I tried with 1 bib, 0 items, 1 item, and 2 items
14:06 Joubu             With the biblio, the tests don't pass, if I remove it, they pass
14:06 Joubu             khall: I am not sure. I have only 1 biblio without any item.
14:05 khall             Joubu: not sure what it could be, but it definitely isn't a problem since the unit test should have had clean tables to begin with.
14:03 Joubu             khall: I maybe there is something hidden behind that...
14:03 khall             if it fits it ships!
14:03 ashimema          lol
14:03 Joubu             actually it's not weird, it works for me without biblio
14:03 ashimema          given is experimental, when is experimental
14:02 ashimema          lol.. going through adding my signoff to the patches.. my pre-commit hook keeps complaining at me ;)
14:02 Joubu             khall: that's work... weird
14:02 tcohen            ah, and now he steps back.... coward .-P
14:02 Joubu             tcohen: note that I cannot simulate 50 librarians behind circulation desks, so no idea of the result in a production env :)
14:02 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10363: Fix Updatedb entry on MariaDB <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4427c194b72802e361c1626657922bd746bccdc>
14:01 khall             : )
14:01 * tcohen          trusts ashimema, khall and Joubu THAT much
14:00 khall             agreed
14:00 tcohen            Let's push it and fix whatever problems we find
14:00 ashimema          I had no idea you could stick three packages into the same file though.. that's really odd
14:00 * tcohen          thinks this is always a phrase people regrets but...
13:59 ashimema          I'm gonna sign it
13:59 ashimema          a prove over the updated test files does all pass..
13:59 ashimema          'tis only the qa script complaining.. which we think from the sounds of it in this case is a red herring..
13:59 ashimema          well.. I'm happy to sign off.. as in all my testing it all works
13:58 khall             Joubu: yes, I created a bib with two items.
13:58 Joubu             things-no-to-do-list
13:58 ashimema          new style on my
13:58 * Joubu           is too slow
13:58 ashimema          I've never seen that before
13:58 Joubu             yes 3 packages in the same file
13:58 ashimema          three packages in one file..
13:57 ashimema          ValueBuilder is weird
13:57 tcohen            ashimema: ?
13:57 Joubu             khall: did you try to create a new bib?
13:57 wahanui           somebody said the was a stop word
13:57 ashimema          what the..
13:56 tcohen            khall++
13:56 khall             tcohen: will file, I'll try to fix
13:56 Joubu             There are 3 occurrences......
13:55 Joubu             ashimema: grep 'my $DEBUG' C4/Barcodes/ValueBuilder.pm
13:55 tcohen            khall: will you fix it/fill a bug?
13:55 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12803 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add ability to skip closed libraries when generating the holds queue
13:55 khall             Joubu: can you re-test HoldsQueue.t on bug 12803? I still can't trigger your failure, but the followup I added should take care of it
13:55 Joubu             ashimema: I think not introduced by this patch but raises by a package somewhere
13:54 Joubu             ashimema: ok, get it
13:52 ashimema          sorry Joubu.. I wasn't clear
13:51 Joubu             ashimema: sorry, I didn't get it was the qa script
13:51 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12194 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , Some fonts don't work on printing label
13:51 ashimema          'qa -c 20 -v 2 | more' is what I'm using
13:51 Joubu             khall: bug 12194
13:51 Joubu             khall: ark, the new oblique column
13:51 ashimema          very odd
13:51 ashimema          ok.. fails consistently via the qa script for me.. but passes fine if I run prove directly... with or without DEBUG=1
13:48 khall             •	ERROR 1136 (21S01) at line 6: Column count doesn't match value count at row 1
13:48 khall             tcohen: FYI sample_creator_data.sql now fails during a fresh install : \
13:48 tcohen            ashimema: do u want me to take a look?
13:46 ashimema          that's not due to the move
13:46 tcohen            maybe for Koha 5.0
13:46 ashimema          but the DEBUG one seems a bit mroe odd to me.
13:45 ashimema          not a problem..
13:45 tcohen            we should teach the qa scrript
13:45 ashimema          yeah.. that's what I said..
13:45 tcohen            not a legit problem
13:45 Joubu             yep, exactly
13:45 tcohen            that's noise, because it cannot find the file to do a diff between commits
13:44 ashimema          is that not correct?
13:44 ashimema          I thought that was just noise tcohen.. usually just continue for me..
13:43 tcohen            ashimema: the koha-qa.pl script doesnt' survive moving files
13:43 ashimema          how odd
13:43 Joubu             DEBUG=1 prove t/db_dependent/Barcodes_ValueBuilder.t returns "all tests successful"
13:43 ashimema          but that's just noise isn't it
13:42 ashimema          fatal: ambiguous argument 't/Barcodes_ValueBuilder.t': unknown revision or path not in the working tree.
13:42 ashimema          Processing files after patches
13:42 ashimema          hmm.. also got:
13:42 ashimema          i did indeed :)
13:41 Joubu             I have moved it to db_dependent, did you notice hat?
13:41 ashimema          it's just complaining about a $DEBUG variable assignment getting masked.
13:41 Joubu             hum, weird, I have fixed this one
13:40 ashimema          Barcodes_ValueBuilder.t
13:40 Joubu             k
13:40 Joubu             which one?
13:40 ashimema          pasted the failure into a comment on the bug
13:40 ashimema          Sorry Joubu.. one of the tests now fails for me.. looks trivial to fix from the error message.. but I've not dug into it
13:33 ashimema          didn't realise it was so heavy.. seems to have loads of dependencies?
13:33 ashimema          wow Test::DBIx::Class pulls in allot..
13:32 tcohen            ashimema++
13:27 ashimema          tis a nice break anywys ;)
13:27 * ashimema        has paused writting the rest followups and documentation for 20 minute whilst he signs of dbic bug :)
13:22 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14918: [QA Follow-up] Correct enddate and use constant <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=304dd2b0512eb82962e0425d8183b15785252913> / Bug 14918: Remove C4::Dates from circ/pendingreserves.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c43e10f06ea35ae17a6efcb24efc4280804cb682> / Bug 14776: Remove 'selfcheck' patron related links from and add language selector... <http://
13:21 mtompset          As a result. I'm not going to be spending time testing that stuff... I don't have time to research and tweak that.
13:20 tcohen            that would run the playbook (as a command line script) inside the VM
13:20 misilot           where is the ansible stuff for windows? I can try and take a look at it
13:20 tcohen            i don't have the time to find out now, but I think you can add another provisioning method in the vagrantfile
13:19 * tcohen          saw that once
13:19 tcohen            maybe you can tweak the Vagrantfile, so the script is run within the VM
13:19 tcohen            mtompset: unfortunately (?) I don't have a windows machine to test
13:18 tcohen            https://servercheck.in/blog/running-ansible-within-windows
13:17 mtompset          And it may not be free, from what I have tried to find.
13:17 mtompset          And I don't know how to get it.
13:17 mtompset          the provisioning script for the ansible branch doesn't run in my windows environment, because I don't have ansible-playbook.
13:16 ashimema          will go ahead now
13:16 ashimema          sure.. all works in my testing so I'm happy to sign it off :)
13:16 wahanui           it is probably something we could get funding for (hint, hint). =) so what would you think is needed more than adding a triple-store for Koha to be able to harvest records from LIBRIS (if we also develop the harvester to handle RDF)? Any ideas?
13:16 mtompset          where is it?
13:15 tcohen            what about it?
13:15 tcohen            whatsup?
13:15 mtompset          ansible playbook for windows. :P
13:15 tcohen            mtompset: it depends :-D
13:15 wahanui           the first one is probably looking weird - it says 9 centerville, but there is also an item at liberty
13:15 tcohen            ashimema: yes, the first one
13:15 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4778 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
13:15 ashimema          bug 4778 you mean?
13:15 ashimema          14778 you mean?
13:15 mtompset          tcohen: You here?
13:14 mtompset          Greetings, #koha.
13:12 tcohen            ashimema: could you please pass the DBIC patchset?
13:05 andreashm         ah, nice
13:04 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add ability to charge fines at start of charge period
13:04 cait              bug 13590
13:04 cait              just happy to see the grace period patch go in
13:04 andreashm         woohoo?
13:04 cait              yes?
13:04 andreashm         cait:?
13:03 cait              woohoo
13:01 huginn            New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12194: (QA followup) remove useless diags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5153d04e41f2502160d18ae6340c82d5b15e261e> / Bug 12194: followup to fix test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ea8280d294dc5fd0953cd8a8148e1e7356595da> / Bug 5685: (RM followup) opac.less and opac.css out of sync <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48f8698
13:01 misilot           question how do you add a marc field to the default framework?
12:49 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14238 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , C4::Matcher is mangling data to match on
12:49 misilot           question if i wanted to take a stab at understanding bug 14238 where should I start looking. Thanks!
12:33 tcohen            and no question sign
12:32 cait              just one more word heh :)
12:32 khall             tcohen: that sounds good to me!
12:32 tcohen            cait said "When to charge"
12:32 khall             tcohen: do you have any suggestions?
12:31 wahanui           i heard gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology.
12:31 tcohen            gmcharlt?
12:31 khall             tcohen: I couldn't think of a good terse way to put it
12:31 druthb            hey, that was amazing!  Cait is a sorceress!
12:31 wahanui           khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;)
12:31 tcohen            khall?
12:31 cait              When to charge?
12:31 khall             'sup?
12:31 wahanui           suggestions are still there
12:31 tcohen            suggestions?
12:31 * cait            summons khall
12:30 cait              ah
12:30 tcohen            it's the column name on the circ rules matrix
12:30 cait              hm where?
12:30 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to charge fines at start of charge period
12:30 tcohen            I don't think "Charge when?" is idiomatic/right, on bug 13590
12:29 tcohen            cait: have a minute?
12:29 wahanui           privet, andreashm
12:29 andreashm         hi
12:29 cait              morning tcohen :)
12:26 tcohen            Joubu: merged
12:21 tcohen            morning
12:19 cait              sounds good
12:17 khall             cait: help updated. I added the example you were looking for. Also, now that you can edit you can play sounds for existing alerts, does that work for you cait?
12:16 drojf             hi #koha
12:15 cait              thx!
12:00 khall             cait: I will update the help as well
11:58 khall             yep!
11:58 cait              with samples
11:58 cait              and we could have a wiki page
11:58 cait              it's a cool feature, very flexible
11:58 khall             np!
11:58 cait              khall: thx a lot :)
11:57 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add additional sound options for warnings
11:57 khall             cait: bug 11431 is ready for qa again!
11:55 andreashm         We don't play anymore.
11:54 andreashm         this band: www.amandinemusic.com
11:54 cait              andreashm: wha are you playing?
11:52 andreashm         magnuse: so two tours, technically. =)
11:50 andreashm         magnuse: yes, back in 2005 and 06.
11:49 khall             cait: of course!
11:47 magnuse           andreashm: you went on a tour of the us?
11:46 cait              hope not only for me and thinking it will be helpful too :)
11:46 cait              :)
11:46 khall             cait: working on edit feature for audio alerts right now for you ; )
11:45 cait              thx khall :)
11:35 andreashm         I still fondly remember the look of horror I got the first time on tour in the us (a bunch of years ago) when I said good luck to another musician. =)
11:33 andreashm         eythian: I know your not... but was unsure how nz handle good luck calls.
11:32 andreashm         cait: I thought you didn't have enough on your plate already, so I added some more! =)
11:32 andreashm         cait: you're welcome!
11:32 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14674 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , koha-create should set upload_path in koha-conf.xml
11:32 marcelr           thx Joubu++ #bug 14674
11:30 eythian           I'm not American 😉 if you look though the logs or Google you can find my one from last year too.
11:29 cait              andreashm: thx for the update!
11:16 andreashm         (or if you are like the Americans - break a leg!)
11:16 andreashm         good luck
11:15 andreashm         eythian: great. I hope I'll be able to watch it later then!
11:11 magnuse           sounds awesom eythian - have fun!
11:08 eythian           andreashm: typically they're recorded
11:04 andreashm         sounds like a speech I would like to hear!
11:04 * andreashm       is back. went away for a while to look at the OAI harvester with a colleague
11:03 eythian           I'm going to be in Australia for the week at a conference, speaking about Elasticsearch, Catmandu and Koha. So don't bother me until next week eh? ;)
11:00 khall             ah, ok
11:00 Joubu             khall: I don't know, I don't know how it works on master
11:00 Joubu             hi/bye eythian :)
11:00 eythian           also bye
11:00 eythian           hi
10:59 huginn            04Bug 14293: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Error in the calculation of the suspension of users per day
10:59 khall             Joubu: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14293#c3 was never addressed. Is Nick correct?
10:51 magnuse           automate all the things!
10:21 cait              Joubu: i think i might have lost track too - would be good to have an automated test for sure!
10:21 cait              back for a little bit
10:16 ashimema          :)
10:15 Joubu             yep
10:15 Joubu             if one has changed, lessc ; git diff | wc should be 0
10:15 ashimema          might be worthwhile going forward.. once we've resynced them
10:14 Joubu             yep the qa script could do that
10:14 Joubu             but on master the files differ
10:14 Joubu             I meant, manually
10:14 Joubu             ashimema: yes, I already check that
10:14 ashimema          wonder if that could be added to the qa script Joubu?
10:13 ashimema          we likely need a QA rule.. if opac.css has changed, opac.less likely should have done too.. make sure it has :)
10:05 huginn            Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:05 Joubu             @later tell tcohen did you see my pull request on kohadevbox (commit author email vs name)?
09:50 huginn            Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:50 Joubu             @later tell tcohen opac.css and opac.less are not in sync (??)
09:44 * mveron          is running out of time. Good bye, #koha
09:43 hasenbear         wir kriegen die meldung, dass keine exemplare verfügbar sind (opac meldung z.b. bei "vormerken") das können wir aber im ils nicht nachvollziehen.  hilfe?
09:43 hasenbear         cait: wir haben festgestellt, dass viele einträge vom ils-interface im opac-interface nicht richtig angezeigt werden
09:32 blax8777          "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/DBI.pm line 2064."
09:32 blax8777          And got an't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20/DBI.pm line 2064.
09:32 blax8777          I change $sth = $dbh->prepare("select userid from borrowers where cardnumber=?"); to $sth = $dbh->prepare("select userid from borrowers where email=?");
09:31 blax8777          Hi, I'm working on CAS and want to change the check field to email
09:24 ashimema          didn't mean to dump you guys in it at all.. it's the whole cross company collaboration (read cross community collaboration) which is always hard.. you guys have been doing a great job getting it all to where it is so far
09:23 ashimema          brill.. thanks paul_p
09:23 paul_p            ashimema = jajm can dedicate the beginning of the next week (up to 1, maybe 2 days) to this task. So start & we will continue !
09:23 ashimema          after that, it opens the door again for any further work from jajm depedning on what kyles qa review says
09:23 andreashm         ashimema++
09:23 andreashm         ashimema: woho!
09:22 * ashimema        has a meeting in ten minutes.. but will then dedicate 2 hours to getting the promised followups done on the restful base bug
09:21 ashimema          indeed.. 24 hours isn't enough.. need to submit a bug.. need more hours in a day.
09:21 ashimema          ++
09:20 paul_p            andreashm & stockholm univ++ !
09:20 ashimema          right at the minute andreashm.. I don't think we (ptfs-europe) could actually accept any more development work.. but that's my problem.. wejust can't keep up with demand at the moment.. which is both great and horiffic at the same time ;) )
09:20 andreashm         paul: you could upgrade that to 100 if the base gets in 3.22
09:20 paul_p            andreashm (hoping you agree with this % ;-) )
09:20 andreashm         paul: =)
09:20 andreashm         damn you day, only 24 hours to work with!
09:20 paul_p            ashimema = the fines routes are funded (90% sure).
09:19 ashimema          just ened to find some damn time to work on it.. as usual time is a nightmare
09:19 andreashm         ashimema: could this be remedied by specific funding?
09:19 ashimema          really want to see it happen :)
09:19 ashimema          paul_p.. I totaly agree with that route :)
09:18 ashimema          part of the problem is a lack of expertise.. Joubu is trying his hardest to impliment a few good examples.. but he needs feedback from some people (likely working outside of the koha space) to showcase how best to use an api like this (using non-blocking async requests, and a js framework for instance)
09:18 paul_p            Joubu that I missed, as most IRC meeting those months :(
09:17 paul_p            side note : I really want this patch into the release (as everybody I think). I have some proposal pending for adding routes in other modules (fines for example). The idea being to be able to drive all data through webservices, then use them internally, then our ILS is disintegrated ;-)
09:17 Joubu             (all of this was part of the last dev meeting)
09:17 jajm              paul_p, ashimema, of course we can help writing swagger specs
09:17 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use the REST API for cities
09:17 Joubu             paul_p: and I have asked all parties concerned to have a look and comment on bug 14974, I did not get any line of codes from anybody so far
09:16 ashimema          its' a chicken/egg problem.. I've also been trying to write up some documentation for the community on the wiki on how best to make use of all the swagger features.
09:16 ashimema          but an example is worth 1000 words..
09:16 ashimema          the details of how to write a schema are http://swagger.io/specification/#schemaObject
09:15 paul_p            jajm = can we do that ourself ? (what ashimema propose)
09:15 * ashimema        did offer to do it.. as I think I understand it out of the box mroe than jajm does so far)
09:15 Joubu             paul_p: Glabally, the "base" is stuck at the QA step because we would like to see specs and examples on how we could use the api from Koha
09:14 ashimema          it's not a huge amount of work.. just is a piece I've not had time to followup on yet.
09:14 ashimema          that sort of level description in the specification file..
09:14 ashimema          so far, they just say.. you might get field x.. what they should say is.. you will get field x (required = true), it will be a string (type = string).. you maight get feild y (required = false), it will be an integer (type = int)
09:13 ashimema          basically.. we want to showcase the positives of swagger a bit more paul.. the first part of that is my commentreagarding having 'proper' schema's for the responses for the patrons example route
09:12 paul_p            ashimema = thus my question : can we help ?
09:12 ashimema          paul_p.. you guys have done a great job getting it going.. I'm just commenting on my lack of time to get it moving through qa with a few followups I need to add
09:12 paul_p            ashimema = is there something we can do with your patches ? (cc: jajm)
09:11 andreashm         paul_p: great!
09:11 ashimema          money has always been a hard one to work through.. there is the whole central fund rainsing thing going on (which is what Joubu is being paid out of at the moment to work entirely on community stuff without the bias of being under a particular support company)
09:11 paul_p            ashimema & andreashm = part of ebsco money goes into my (BibLibre) pockets. We're working hard on but 13799.
09:10 ashimema          and part of my job in the support company I work for is to keep up community relations.. which I translate into doing QA and taking on Maintainer roles (thus I do get paid by my company to do some qa work)..
09:09 ashimema          sure.. as support companies we all scratch each others backs for the good of the community..
09:09 andreashm         I believe there are people willing to sponsor work on this to help/speed things up, us included, if we had a clear idea on what this mean.
09:09 ashimema          in fact.. in general.. development goes along the lines of a customer pays a support company for some development.. that development then may or may not get submitted upstream.. then the signoff and qa, and release team are all volunteers.. so they never see a monetary feedback from this..
09:07 ashimema          I have no idea where the ebsco money has gone
09:07 andreashm         ah
09:06 ashimema          ebsco are generically funding some bits somewhere.. but they're not put any money my companies way in particular
09:04 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add base for building RESTful API
09:04 andreashm         at least the base (bug 13799)
09:04 andreashm         ashimema: I thought the rest api stuff was funded by ebsco?
08:55 Joubu             (actually it's not really critical, but major at least)
08:55 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10799 is not accessible.
08:55 Joubu             off-topic: I don't really know who has access to the bug, but please have a look at bug 10799, it's critical/sco-related, would be good to have it for the release
08:53 ashimema          it is high up my list.. but can't take priority over paying customers systems I'm afraid
08:53 ashimema          I've been writing up the wiki notes.. but there allot of info to get down
08:52 ashimema          our schema objects are so basic that they're barely worth beign there at all.. the followup I wanted was to showcase a full schema for the patron response.. i.e incuding al fields, with required and type flags as a minimum.. not jsut the description.
08:51 ashimema          this is whats missing: http://swagger.io/specification/#schemaObject
08:49 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add base for building RESTful API
08:49 * ashimema        apologises for that slight rant
08:49 wahanui           bug 13799 is probably ready to go in master, if nobody complains about it
08:49 magnuse           bug 13799
08:48 * ashimema        would love someone to actually plump up some money for these pieces of work.. it's pretty hard to justify time when it's not something any of your won customers are paying for ;)
08:46 * andreashm       apparently likes repeating himself.
08:46 andreashm         so, my usual question of the day, does the rest api base look like it will make it into 3.22? Did ashimema look more at it the other day?
08:45 andreashm         atheia: flu free? where? (looks around) not here anyways. =)
08:36 huginn            Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:36 Joubu             @later tell tcohen have a look at bug 15052 (jenkins fails on TestBuilder tests)
08:35 atheia            A wonderful, flu free, day to you #koha! :-)
08:18 * andreashm       waves
08:12 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14834 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add range parameters to membership_expiry cronjob
08:12 marcelr           bug 14834
08:11 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Separate temporary storage per instance in Upload.pm
08:11 * marcelr         still hopes for a signoff on bug 14893 and perhaps 14834 (they still apply)
08:05 Joubu             ho no :)
08:02 marcelr           or you should be the next RM
08:02 marcelr           heh
08:02 Joubu             but without to know the RM, it's hard to know if you want to be in the team
08:00 Joubu             I don't :)
08:00 marcelr           Joubu: do not forget the roles 3.24 on the wiki :)
07:59 marcelr           cait: yeah
07:59 cait              marcelr: i hope not only you and me for qa next term!
07:59 cait              will be back in a bit
07:59 wahanui           it has been said that meeting time is always going to favour one section of the globe
07:59 cait              meeting time
07:52 cait              i will do some more qa - but i think the sign offs might be the bigger problem
07:51 mveron            cait: In that case it IS frustraiting.
07:48 cait              deadline is on monday
07:48 cait              mveron: it might be too late now :(
07:48 * mveron          waves back to cait
07:47 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy
07:47 mveron            Bug 12072
07:47 mveron            marcelr: Yes, I know. I really hope that somebody finds time to sign off. I'm a little bit afraid that 12072 will not make it for the next release, and that would be frustrating...
07:47 marcelr           hi cait
07:47 * cait            waves
07:45 marcelr           there are none in the SO queue for now..
07:45 marcelr           mveron++
07:45 huginn            04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14918 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Remove C4::Dates from circ/pendingreserves.pl
07:45 mveron            marcelr ++ for Bug 14918 - It decreases the bugs to sign off for C4::Dates removal to 17  :-)
07:41 mveron            Good morning / daytime #koha
07:29 wahanui           hi, gaetan_B
07:29 gaetan_B          hello
07:01 reiveune          salut marcelr magnuse rangi
07:00 marcelr           hi alex_a Joubu and reiveune
06:56 wahanui           niihau, alex_a
06:56 alex_a            bonjour
06:52 wahanui           bonjour, Joubu
06:52 Joubu             hi
06:46 reiveune          hello
06:27 marcelr           hi #koha
06:18 magnuse           people++ for signing up on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.24
06:08 magnuse           hiya dojobo
06:07 dojobo            'morning
06:07 * magnuse         waves
02:59 wahanui           just move to elasticsearch
02:59 Francesca         wahanui be eythian
00:58 Francesca         sup
00:39 huginn            eythian: The operation succeeded.
00:39 eythian           @later tell cait http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/73322470/lost-in-translation-german-couple-try-to-flee-dunedin-due-to-quake-forecast <-- oh, those crazy Germans
00:03 cdickinson        that's good enough for me
00:02 eythian           he wrote it in the first place
00:02 eythian           http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33267765/why-is-xmlsimple-discouraged <-- quoting from this, but for more detail ask grantm in irc://irc.perl.org/#wellington.pm
00:02 eythian           oh
00:02 cdickinson        <eythian> wahanui: XML::Simple is the most complex XML parser available.
00:01 eythian           ?
00:01 cdickinson        eythian: want to talk about the bitter experience?