Time  Nick       Message
00:33 mtj        hey eythian, is rangi about?
00:33 Francesca  rangi is away
00:34 mtj        hi Francesca, thanks.. (its not urgent)
00:34 Francesca  he'll be back sometime next week I think
03:08 Amit_Gupta hi all
04:51 eythian    wahanui: \is your zebra running is <reply>http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra#Is_your_zebra_running.3F
04:51 wahanui    OK, eythian.
04:55 Amit_Gupta hi eythina
04:55 Amit_Gupta hi eythian
04:55 eythian    hi
06:06 mveron     Good morning / daytime #koha
06:42 * magnuse  waves
06:55 marcelr    hi #koha
06:55 Joubu      morning #koha
06:59 mveron     morning Joubu
06:59 alex_a     bonjour
06:59 wahanui    salut, alex_a
07:04 matts      hi !
07:08 putti      Hello :)
07:09 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a
07:09 Amit_Gupta @bug 6810
07:09 huginn     Amit_Gupta: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Send membership expiry reminder notices
07:15 reiveune   hello
07:28 putti      Joubu, what's columns config page?
07:33 magnuse    @wunder marseille
07:33 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
07:33 magnuse    @wunder boo
07:33 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:00 magnuse    guten morgen, gnädigen fräulein cait
08:00 cait       heh
08:00 cait       guten morgen werter herr magnus
08:02 magnuse    :-)
08:11 mveron     Joubu: In march 2015 you asked if opac/opac-ics is still used. Did you get / find an answer?  I can not find occurences with git grep 'opac-ics'.
08:11 mveron     ...and hi again everybody!
08:15 Joubu      mveron: I guess it has been removed
08:16 mtj        hey peeps
08:16 mtj        mveron:  great work on the C4::Dates patches, thanks!
08:16 mveron     Joubu:  Thanks.
08:17 Joubu      mveron: sorry, the script is still in master actually
08:17 mveron     Joubu: I do not find where to trigger it. Is it dead code?
08:17 Joubu      I don't know what is it
08:19 Joubu      mveron: you should ask rangi
08:19 mveron     Joubu: I'll leave it with the C4::Dates patch set for Opac, we can remove the file later.
08:19 Joubu      "Script to allow patrons to download the due dates for the books in ICalendar format" d40e78cf04af11cc1b72803c7ef8722ce1735fc5
08:19 mveron     mtj: Thanks - it is a long journey... :-)
08:22 mveron     Joubu: Oh, that is a nice feature, but I do not find a way to trigger it. I would expect it on the 'your summary' page (opac-user.pl)
08:28 magnuse    i remember that was talked about at some point
08:28 magnuse    i think i made a bug for it
08:28 magnuse    bug 5456
08:28 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Create a link to opac-ics.pl
08:30 magnuse    wow, 5 years ago...
08:30 magnuse    mveron, Joubu ^^
08:31 mveron     magnuse ++
08:37 magnuse    and mveron++ for the c4::dates work!
08:37 mveron     :-)
08:38 magnuse    excellent proof that we can modernize koha gradually over time
08:51 magnuse    kia ora Viktor
08:51 Viktor     Kia ora Magnuse!
08:53 mtj        Joubu: i think we have some consensus about an issue-tracker for the koha-qa repo
08:56 Joubu      more or less, yes
09:00 cait       mveron: i think you can build an url with the right parameters...
09:00 cait       butit might still be broken by now
09:01 drojf      hi #koha
09:02 cait       hi drojf
09:03 drojf      hi cait :)
09:03 * mveron   waves to cait and drojf
09:03 cait       morning mveron
09:03 mveron     hi cait :-)
09:04 drojf      hi mveron :)
09:04 mveron     cait: I took a note about the url for the ics thing
09:05 mveron     Hi drojf :-)
09:13 drojf      @wunder berlin, germany
09:13 huginn     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:47 mveron     @wunder Allschwil
09:47 huginn     mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 16.0°C (11:30 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
10:32 magnuse    @wunder boo
10:32 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
10:53 Joubu      fridolin: around?
11:05 * cait     waves
11:41 fridolin   Joubu: yes
11:43 fridolin   Joubu: but I'm qwite buzy
11:44 tcohen     morning
11:45 cait       morning tcohen
11:45 tcohen     hi cait :-D
11:46 Joubu      fridolin: context: bug 14666: Just to let you know that you should communicate and have a look at other works.
11:46 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14666 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , adds fixed_fines for overdues
11:46 Joubu      Otherwise none of you will manage to integrate his work into master
11:48 fridolin   Joubu: oki a BZ in particular ?
11:48 Joubu      bug 14666...
11:49 Joubu      and the ones I have linked last week
11:49 fridolin   linked ?
11:49 Joubu      "see also"
11:58 fridolin   in BZ 14666 ?
11:58 fridolin   Joubu: ^
12:10 magnuse    huh, why does <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/tools/overduerules.pl not show every patron category?
12:11 * druthb   blames cait.
12:13 magnuse    yeah, i was starting to lean that wat myself
12:13 magnuse    s/wat/way/
12:13 druthb     :P
12:15 cait       because you said 'no overdue notice# in the category type definiton
12:15 cait       and i know this, because i field a bug for not all categories showing and was told that ;)
12:18 magnuse    ah
12:19 magnuse    that did the trick
12:19 magnuse    cait++
12:19 * magnuse  blames druthb for blaming cait
12:20 magnuse    that was quick
12:21 tcohen     hi again
12:22 magnuse    ¡hola tcohen!
12:24 tcohen     hi magnuse
12:24 druthb     hey!  magnuse, if I had not blamed cait, she might not have answered so quickly. So it's a good thing to blame her!  :P
12:24 tcohen     @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:24 huginn     tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.0°C (9:20 AM ART on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
12:24 cait       hmpf
12:30 tcohen     cait: whatsup?
12:36 cait       tcohen: they are blaming me for things working like they should
12:37 tcohen     oh
12:40 tcohen     jajm: bonjour
12:40 wahanui    hey, tcohen
12:41 tcohen     did u have any chance trying to integrate the restful api with the packages setup AND plack on packages?
12:42 tcohen     Joubu: remind me the bug # for the patch removing DBIx::COnnector?
12:50 Joubu      bug 14778
12:50 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Get rid of DBIx::Connector
12:51 magnuse    druthb: so true!
12:56 * druthb   hunts for something else to blame cait for.
13:03 * cait     goes :P in druthb's direction
13:04 druthb     :)  :P
13:08 tcohen     who has the reboot button for git?
13:09 tcohen     gmcharlt: could you take a look at the git repo? thanks!
13:11 cait       hm it seems working for me
13:22 tcohen     cait: git://git.koha-community.org/qa-test-tools.git
13:22 tcohen     I cannot clone it
13:54 tcohen     #koha anyone around has access to the git server?
14:06 tcohen     thanks git.koha-community.org
15:03 reiveune   bye
15:03 tcohen     Joubu: Koha::Borrowers::Categories?
15:05 tcohen     Koha::Borrower::Categor(y|es)
15:16 Joubu      tcohen: ?
15:16 Joubu      Should have been Patron?
15:16 Joubu      that's it?
15:17 tcohen     nope, I was thinking... how should we standarize?
15:17 tcohen     we have Koha::Borrowers
15:17 Joubu      and already 4 modules in Koha::Borrower::*
15:18 Joubu      that's why I didn't create a Koha::Patron
15:18 tcohen     you patch introduces Koha::PatronCAtegories
15:18 tcohen     bug 14836
15:18 Joubu      ha
15:18 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::PatronCategories
15:18 Joubu      :D
15:19 Joubu      I don't remember why I did that
15:19 Joubu      but definitively, it's not the best one :)
15:19 Joubu      Either Koha::Patron::Category or Koha::Borrower::Category
15:22 tcohen     borrower coff coff
15:23 Joubu      yes but... already 4 modules in i
15:23 Joubu      t
15:24 Joubu      but I'm ok to open the door :)
15:24 tcohen     and the problem is.... ?
15:24 Joubu      so you move it to Borrower?
15:24 * tcohen   hides
15:24 Joubu      sorry, not concentrate...
15:26 tcohen     Joubu: au contraire
15:27 Joubu      so go for Patron :)
15:37 tcohen     Joubu: nooooo
15:39 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14917: 700/710/711 fix path for icon in XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58a0186dd243d011954e06dc314df2e462b1e1fe> / Bug 14518: Allow deleting records with holds (and no item) after confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69400a635c98f2da7ddfc3d4902a087cff12dce3> / Bug 6379: Fix if the reviewer is not the same patron <http://git.koha-community.or
15:55 nitz0      Hi people...
16:01 nitz0      I mysqldump a DB from Koha 3.08, then I upload it to koha 3.20. Finally I mysqldump 3.20 and the size of boths SQLs files are not the same. Is that ok? Or I am losing information data?
16:06 nitz0      cait_: Hi. Are you there?
16:22 nitz0      @hi
16:22 huginn     nitz0: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
16:22 Joubu      tcohen: ?
16:22 Joubu      your follow-up on bug 14888 is wrong
16:22 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the cities related code to Koha::Cities
16:24 Joubu      @later tell tcohen IMPORTANT your followup on bug 14888 is wrong, revert! Otherwise the tests are not launched in a transaction and data are modified
16:24 huginn     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:30 Joubu      bye
17:30 * cait     waves at mveron
17:31 * mveron   waves back...
17:31 cait       khall: the document delivery looks really interesting :)
17:32 khall      thanks! still a work in progress, but it's getting close to done!
17:36 mveron     Hi khall :-)
17:36 khall      good day mveron!
17:36 mveron     khall: ....rather evening at our place :-)
17:37 khall      lol
17:37 mveron     khall: Are you expert for TalkingTech? I need somebody testing Bug 14960 (one of the files)
17:37 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14960 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files in misc/cronjobs (part 1)
17:38 khall      I saw that. I suppose I *am* the TT expert. I'll put that bug on the todo list
17:38 mveron     Great!
17:39 cait       mveron: could you do me a favour? :)
17:39 cait       a small one
17:39 cait       just a quick test of bug 14377
17:39 mveron     A recceipee?
17:39 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Failed QA , Indicate that a record is suppressed in staff client
17:39 mveron     :-)
17:39 cait       because i couldn't get it to work
17:39 cait       in my installation
17:40 cait       shouldn't take long
17:40 mveron     cait: I will have a look...
17:40 cait       thank you
17:40 cait       i was puzzled by it, but I really couldn't get it to work
17:40 cait       the test only showed up for me when i set the test to "1" to be always true
17:40 cait       so the right XSLT file was used... but the condition was not true for my record...
18:00 mveron     cait: It works for me - but I had to wait until the index cronjob triggered.
18:00 mveron     To be sure I changed 942n to 1 and additionally 245 a to something like Blahblah.
18:00 cait       i reindexed manually, but it didn't show hm
18:00 Kchris     I am testing the patch for bug 14776 on kohadevbox. Once the patch is applied, the SCO user's information disappears. But the OPAC language menus never display. I am thinking that this may be because I only have English installed. However, I haven't been able to install additional languages on the Kohadevbox.
18:00 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14776 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , SCO/shelfcheck 'log out' option redirects to OPAC, not back to SCO
18:00 mveron     Then I searched for Blahblah...
18:00 cait       how does your 942 look like?
18:01 cait       could you try with 'my' 942 from the bug report?
18:01 mveron     cait: in n I have 1
18:01 mveron     cait: Will try...
18:02 cait       thank you
18:02 tcohen     Joubu: hmpf
18:06 mario      back
18:07 tcohen     khall: are you taking care of 14915?
18:07 Kchris     If anyone has experience installing languages on Kohadevbox, advice would be most appreciated.
18:07 khall      tcohen: not sure what you mean
18:08 tcohen     khall: I just read my email and saw some concern from Jonatahn
18:08 khall      yes, I had not seen that. I will look into it
18:08 tcohen     was just checking if you were the one working on that bug
18:09 khall      tcohen: yes I am!
18:09 huginn     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14888: Revert "Bug 14888: (QA followup) remove unused lib/var" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c066239f38ac03dad12fd57cbfdae1745fa9fbf>
18:09 cait       tcohen: does kohadevbox work like packages?
18:10 tcohen     hi cait
18:10 cait       hi tcohen
18:10 tcohen     kohadevbox install the packages, and gitifies the install
18:10 tcohen     so yes
18:10 cait       so installing new languages...
18:11 tcohen     you should use the ansible branch
18:11 Kchris     hi cait, tcohen.
18:11 tcohen     ah
18:11 tcohen     good question
18:11 cait       for Kchris
18:11 cait       :)
18:11 tcohen     for languages, perl translate install de
18:11 tcohen     because koha-translate is not tweaked to work on the kohaclone dir
18:12 Kchris     tcohen: I think I this is where I was getting stuck on a bug you proposed I attempt to "sign off" on earlier.
18:12 Kchris     I couldn't get the languages to install on the kohadvebox.
18:13 tcohen     oh, i'm sorry!
18:13 tcohen     you should cd kohaclone/misc/translator
18:13 tcohen     perl translate install <lang_code>
18:16 Kchris     hmm. I think the perl libraries are not being located. or I don't have them installed.
18:17 Kchris     "can't locate Koha/Config/SysPrefs.pm in @INC" etc
18:36 mveron     cait: If I put an additional blank after the 1 in 942n it does not trigger. I have then to change the XSL, add the normalize-space function, and it works again.
18:48 cait       ah
18:48 cait       i used the yesno authorised value
18:49 cait       hm but it was not visible in the marcxml output
18:49 cait       oh
18:49 cait       could it be some replace thing for fields linked to authrosed values?
18:49 cait       i will check that
18:59 mveron     cait: yesno doesn't seem to trigger at my site
18:59 cait       did you link the authorised vlaue to the 942n ?
19:00 cait       it still stores the 1... but i think there might be some magic going on for display that breaks the check
19:10 mveron     cait: I tweaked the xsl to display the value for 942n, and it magically.... displays... Yes  :-)
19:10 cait       argh
19:11 cait       that means we got a problem
19:11 cait       because the yes_no is translated
19:11 cait       thx for the help mveron
19:11 cait       mveron++
19:11 cait       in german we have ja/nein etc.... not sure how to check that in xslt
19:12 cait       and i think linking the field with an authorised value is recommended, but yes_no was introduced late... so not even that is a sure thing
19:14 mveron     Welcome...
19:14 wahanui    Welcome to zombo.com
19:14 mveron     cait: I made some notes on the bug
19:14 cait       oh awesome
19:14 cait       i will check in a bit... doing the dishes first
19:34 mveron     cait: I created an authorized value category ONE_ZERO and gave it 0 / 1 for the values and for all descriptions. It works, and it displays 1 or 0 correctly on 942 n fields that had YES_NO before
20:31 wizzyrea   has anyone else observed a problem with authority searching where the results don't turn up, on a fully up to date Jessie?
20:36 mveron     Good night / daytime #koha  :-)
20:42 cait       wizzyrea++
20:42 wizzyrea   ?
20:42 cait       mailing list :)
20:43 wizzyrea   ohh
20:43 wizzyrea   yeah I'm about to address his other 3.18.11 bug as well
20:43 wizzyrea   I think his DB has gone funny
20:44 wizzyrea   OpenSUSE, I mean who knows.
20:46 wizzyrea   it all wfm - rather looks like he missed a db update or is using old mysql or he's somehow messed up his schema - case in point, auth_subfield_structure.linkid is a bit value, not an integer...
20:47 cait       hm think i missed that one
20:48 wizzyrea   http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14952
20:48 huginn     04Bug 14952: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , web installer database errors on 3.18.11
20:48 wizzyrea   I couldn't replicate either of them
20:48 cait       hm maybe an even older problem
20:50 wizzyrea   also in the schema, the address can be null so...
20:50 wizzyrea   looks local.
20:51 cait       hm yeah
20:51 wizzyrea   well it can't be null, but it can be empty, I should say
20:52 wizzyrea   anyway.
21:34 eythian    hi
22:04 eythian    @wunder nzwn
22:04 huginn     eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
22:04 dcook      @wunder syd
22:04 huginn     dcook: The current temperature in Mascot, Mascot, New South Wales is 22.8°C (8:21 AM AEDT on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
22:04 eythian    huh. above 14. Haven't seen that for a while
22:04 dcook      You guys didn't get that heat yesterday?
22:10 cdickinson it wasn't that hot yesterday, but god was it nice
22:11 cdickinson and it's even better today
22:11 cdickinson this is my favourtie weather, now if only I didn't have a cold
22:11 cdickinson favourite*
22:25 Francesca  wahanui fire
22:25 wahanui    I'm on fiiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaah!
22:25 Francesca  fire is also http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/72725341/man-accidentally-sets-room-on-fire-during-live-stream
22:25 wahanui    okay, Francesca.
22:52 eythian    http://www.androidplanet.nl/nieuws/android-6-0-marshmallow-downloaden/ <-- wizzyrea, marshmallow is officially out now if you feel like a manual upgrade
22:52 wizzyrea   nexus 4 :(
22:53 eythian    ah
22:53 wizzyrea   someday soon I might get a 5x
22:53 wizzyrea   I really like my nexus 4
22:53 wizzyrea   it's the perfect size.
22:53 dcook      wizzyrea: how big is the screen?
22:53 Francesca  I have a s5
22:53 dcook      I find my S3 a bit on the hefty side..
22:53 Francesca  do you think ti will get marshmallow
22:53 wizzyrea   4inch I think
22:53 Francesca  I just replaced my s3
22:53 wizzyrea   not for ages
22:54 Francesca  sad
22:54 wizzyrea   because samsung is daft.
22:54 dcook      ^
22:54 wizzyrea   it's just true.
22:54 wizzyrea   they take ages.
22:54 Francesca  ah well lollipop is cool
22:54 cdickinson wizzyrea: everyone but google
22:54 eythian    wizzyrea: when you've had a better sized phone than the N4, it starts to feel like a tiny tiny iphone or something though :)
22:54 Francesca  still want marshmellow though
22:54 wizzyrea   because of their stupid proprietary UI
22:54 cdickinson I'm still on an S3 mini
22:54 wizzyrea   idunno
22:54 cdickinson and I never got more than 4.1 Jelly Bean
22:54 cdickinson CyanogenMod to the rescue
22:54 wizzyrea   I play around with trea's bigger phone
22:54 Francesca  My s3 got up to 4.3
22:54 dcook      Yeah, I keep meaning to try CyanogenMod
22:54 Francesca  I think
22:54 wizzyrea   and it feels like carrying around a frikkin tablet.
22:54 dcook      ^
22:55 Francesca  My s5 came with lollipop out of the box
22:55 wizzyrea   which, I don't much like.
22:55 Francesca  you don't like lollipop?
22:55 wizzyrea   I have a tablet for tablet-y things
22:55 eythian    oh, rats. I can't manually update because I foolishly didn't unlock my bootloader when I got my new phone. I need to wait for the OTA update images.
22:55 cdickinson I have bigger hands than Francesca and I'm not sure about the size
22:55 wizzyrea   no no I like lollipop just fine
22:55 eythian    I have two hands.
22:55 Francesca  I'd hope so
22:57 wizzyrea   it's probably an actual security concern to not be on the latest android.
22:57 Francesca  yeah
22:57 wizzyrea   which is why I'll end up with a new phone sooner than later :(
22:57 wizzyrea   one that I'll likely like less.
22:57 Francesca  lollipop is quite cool and I don't wanna lose the awesome built in camera on samsung
22:57 Francesca  why don't you use a custom ROM?
22:57 wizzyrea   because I'm lazy :P
22:58 wizzyrea   it may come to that
22:58 wizzyrea   maybe.
22:58 Francesca  lol
22:58 cdickinson CyanogenMod is good, but Lollipop is taxing on old hardware
22:58 wizzyrea   well my tablet is probably due for a hardware refresh. I might not replace it though.
22:58 wizzyrea   so a bigger phone might make sense
22:59 wizzyrea   but seriously, holding some of these phones up to your head looks ridiculous.
22:59 dcook      eythian: You have two hands? I must use my phone more than I should, as it always seems like one of my hands is occupied while the other is using the phone
22:59 dcook      That sounds worse than I mean...
22:59 wizzyrea   it's like people who take pictures in public with an iPad
22:59 wizzyrea   that is just silly.
22:59 dcook      Carrying groceries, holding the bars on the bus..
22:59 wizzyrea   (looking)
22:59 cdickinson lol
22:59 Francesca  I have always needed 2 hands to use my phone
22:59 dcook      wizzyrea: A friend lost her phone recently, so now she does phone calls on her iPad as well ;)
22:59 Francesca  well not always
22:59 Francesca  but I have small hands
22:59 wizzyrea   I am so sorry for your friends.
22:59 wizzyrea   friend*
23:00 dcook      hehe
23:00 dcook      "I am so sorry for your friends."
23:00 Francesca  the s5 is probably as a big as I'll go in screen sizes
23:00 dcook      The context with that could make that so amusing..
23:00 wizzyrea   well that isn't what I meant.
23:00 wizzyrea   :P
23:00 dcook      :p
23:00 eythian    https://twitter.com/simonpegg/status/15788826307 <-- dcook
23:00 dcook      Well, I count you as a friend, wizzyrea, so there we go :p
23:00 wizzyrea   YES exactly
23:00 Francesca  beautiful
23:00 dcook      eythian: Yes. That.
23:00 wahanui    i heard yes. that was what we are doing now. if we have more patrons then it becomes tough.
23:00 wizzyrea   that is the perfect thing.
23:00 Francesca  just why
23:01 Francesca  why would you make calls on an ipad
23:01 dcook      You don't have a phone?
23:01 cdickinson might as well be holding up our laptops to our ears in a couple of years
23:01 wizzyrea   necessity, I'd reckon.
23:01 dcook      cdickinson: Laptops?
23:01 Francesca  hahahaha
23:01 wizzyrea   I'd buy a $20 dumb phone before I'd do that.
23:01 dcook      I'm hoping in a couple of years we won't even need laps
23:01 Francesca  making a call on my macbook pro
23:01 Francesca  hmmm
23:02 dcook      See... I was thinking of a lapless life as being either a cyborg or some sort of digital consciousness, but now I can just imagine gruesome possibilities...
23:02 Francesca  don't think it'd work somehow
23:02 Francesca  dcook: should we be concerned
23:02 dcook      That could make for an interesting short story...
23:02 dcook      All the rich transfer their consciousnesses to the web and the poor people tend the machines that keep them literally in power
23:02 Francesca  maybe I should have written my essay on technology
23:02 Francesca  instead of cats
23:03 dcook      Then some visionary just decides to pull the power plug O_O
23:03 dcook      The rich will wish they invested in solar panels and wind power then...
23:03 Francesca  lol
23:03 dcook      Technology cats...
23:04 Francesca  duh duh duuuuuh
23:04 Francesca  smartcats
23:04 dcook      If only I had rapid photoshop skills to make a Thundercats gif with them all wearing nerd glasses...
23:04 cdickinson iCats
23:04 * dcook    figures this gif exists now that he's typed that sentence out
23:04 Francesca  hahaha probably
23:05 cdickinson http://www.research.philips.com/technologies/projects/robotics/images/icat-0.jpg
23:05 cdickinson creepy
23:05 Francesca  there is an ibin outside the pire street dairy
23:05 dcook      Oh no...
23:05 * dcook    closes his HexChat window for a bit
23:05 dcook      Too creeped out :p
23:06 cdickinson /clear is your friend
23:06 Francesca  it gets rid of everything
23:08 wizzyrea   smh
23:08 Francesca  smh?
23:08 dcook      Sydney Morning Herald
23:08 * dcook    giggles
23:08 cdickinson lol
23:08 cdickinson Shaking My Head
23:08 dcook      The funny thing is that "smh...smh" still works
23:08 Francesca  oh ok
23:09 dcook      Ok, actually closing this window
23:09 cdickinson that's something wahanui could do that's actually useful for a change
23:09 dcook      Err minimizing...
23:09 Francesca  lol ok
23:09 cdickinson outside of nslookup, which is awesome
23:12 Francesca  alright I should probably go
23:13 Francesca  *sigh*
23:13 Francesca  have work to do at home
23:55 dcook      "The DOM XML record model is experimental, and its inner workings might change in future releases of the Zebra Information Server."
23:55 dcook      Didn't know that...
23:55 * dcook    wonders how old that statement is
23:56 dcook      Fun software idea:
23:57 dcook      Government announces a 13th month and mandates that all software must be updated to support this new 13th month
23:57 dcook      I suppose that's actually not that bad...
23:57 dcook      It would be worse if we did away with months and just used years and days...
23:59 dcook      Is there an ISO format for taking into account planetary time differences?
23:59 * dcook    needs more science friends