Time Nick Message 00:33 mtj hey eythian, is rangi about? 00:33 Francesca rangi is away 00:34 mtj hi Francesca, thanks.. (its not urgent) 00:34 Francesca he'll be back sometime next week I think 03:08 Amit_Gupta hi all 04:51 eythian wahanui: \is your zebra running is <reply>http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra#Is_your_zebra_running.3F 04:51 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:55 Amit_Gupta hi eythina 04:55 Amit_Gupta hi eythian 04:55 eythian hi 06:06 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 06:42 * magnuse waves 06:55 marcelr hi #koha 06:55 Joubu morning #koha 06:59 mveron morning Joubu 06:59 alex_a bonjour 06:59 wahanui salut, alex_a 07:04 matts hi ! 07:08 putti Hello :) 07:09 Amit_Gupta heya alex_a 07:09 Amit_Gupta @bug 6810 07:09 huginn Amit_Gupta: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Send membership expiry reminder notices 07:15 reiveune hello 07:28 putti Joubu, what's columns config page? 07:33 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 18.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 07:33 magnuse @wunder boo 07:33 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 08:00 magnuse guten morgen, gnädigen fräulein cait 08:00 cait heh 08:00 cait guten morgen werter herr magnus 08:02 magnuse :-) 08:11 mveron Joubu: In march 2015 you asked if opac/opac-ics is still used. Did you get / find an answer? I can not find occurences with git grep 'opac-ics'. 08:11 mveron ...and hi again everybody! 08:15 Joubu mveron: I guess it has been removed 08:16 mtj hey peeps 08:16 mtj mveron: great work on the C4::Dates patches, thanks! 08:16 mveron Joubu: Thanks. 08:17 Joubu mveron: sorry, the script is still in master actually 08:17 mveron Joubu: I do not find where to trigger it. Is it dead code? 08:17 Joubu I don't know what is it 08:19 Joubu mveron: you should ask rangi 08:19 mveron Joubu: I'll leave it with the C4::Dates patch set for Opac, we can remove the file later. 08:19 Joubu "Script to allow patrons to download the due dates for the books in ICalendar format" d40e78cf04af11cc1b72803c7ef8722ce1735fc5 08:19 mveron mtj: Thanks - it is a long journey... :-) 08:22 mveron Joubu: Oh, that is a nice feature, but I do not find a way to trigger it. I would expect it on the 'your summary' page (opac-user.pl) 08:28 magnuse i remember that was talked about at some point 08:28 magnuse i think i made a bug for it 08:28 magnuse bug 5456 08:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Create a link to opac-ics.pl 08:30 magnuse wow, 5 years ago... 08:30 magnuse mveron, Joubu ^^ 08:31 mveron magnuse ++ 08:37 magnuse and mveron++ for the c4::dates work! 08:37 mveron :-) 08:38 magnuse excellent proof that we can modernize koha gradually over time 08:51 magnuse kia ora Viktor 08:51 Viktor Kia ora Magnuse! 08:53 mtj Joubu: i think we have some consensus about an issue-tracker for the koha-qa repo 08:56 Joubu more or less, yes 09:00 cait mveron: i think you can build an url with the right parameters... 09:00 cait butit might still be broken by now 09:01 drojf hi #koha 09:02 cait hi drojf 09:03 drojf hi cait :) 09:03 * mveron waves to cait and drojf 09:03 cait morning mveron 09:03 mveron hi cait :-) 09:04 drojf hi mveron :) 09:04 mveron cait: I took a note about the url for the ics thing 09:05 mveron Hi drojf :-) 09:13 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:13 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 15.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 09:47 mveron @wunder Allschwil 09:47 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 16.0°C (11:30 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 10:32 magnuse @wunder boo 10:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). 10:53 Joubu fridolin: around? 11:05 * cait waves 11:41 fridolin Joubu: yes 11:43 fridolin Joubu: but I'm qwite buzy 11:44 tcohen morning 11:45 cait morning tcohen 11:45 tcohen hi cait :-D 11:46 Joubu fridolin: context: bug 14666: Just to let you know that you should communicate and have a look at other works. 11:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14666 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , adds fixed_fines for overdues 11:46 Joubu Otherwise none of you will manage to integrate his work into master 11:48 fridolin Joubu: oki a BZ in particular ? 11:48 Joubu bug 14666... 11:49 Joubu and the ones I have linked last week 11:49 fridolin linked ? 11:49 Joubu "see also" 11:58 fridolin in BZ 14666 ? 11:58 fridolin Joubu: ^ 12:10 magnuse huh, why does <intranet>/cgi-bin/koha/tools/overduerules.pl not show every patron category? 12:11 * druthb blames cait. 12:13 magnuse yeah, i was starting to lean that wat myself 12:13 magnuse s/wat/way/ 12:13 druthb :P 12:15 cait because you said 'no overdue notice# in the category type definiton 12:15 cait and i know this, because i field a bug for not all categories showing and was told that ;) 12:18 magnuse ah 12:19 magnuse that did the trick 12:19 magnuse cait++ 12:19 * magnuse blames druthb for blaming cait 12:20 magnuse that was quick 12:21 tcohen hi again 12:22 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 12:24 tcohen hi magnuse 12:24 druthb hey! magnuse, if I had not blamed cait, she might not have answered so quickly. So it's a good thing to blame her! :P 12:24 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:24 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.0°C (9:20 AM ART on October 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 12:24 cait hmpf 12:30 tcohen cait: whatsup? 12:36 cait tcohen: they are blaming me for things working like they should 12:37 tcohen oh 12:40 tcohen jajm: bonjour 12:40 wahanui hey, tcohen 12:41 tcohen did u have any chance trying to integrate the restful api with the packages setup AND plack on packages? 12:42 tcohen Joubu: remind me the bug # for the patch removing DBIx::COnnector? 12:50 Joubu bug 14778 12:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14778 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Get rid of DBIx::Connector 12:51 magnuse druthb: so true! 12:56 * druthb hunts for something else to blame cait for. 13:03 * cait goes :P in druthb's direction 13:04 druthb :) :P 13:08 tcohen who has the reboot button for git? 13:09 tcohen gmcharlt: could you take a look at the git repo? thanks! 13:11 cait hm it seems working for me 13:22 tcohen cait: git://git.koha-community.org/qa-test-tools.git 13:22 tcohen I cannot clone it 13:54 tcohen #koha anyone around has access to the git server? 14:06 tcohen thanks git.koha-community.org 15:03 reiveune bye 15:03 tcohen Joubu: Koha::Borrowers::Categories? 15:05 tcohen Koha::Borrower::Categor(y|es) 15:16 Joubu tcohen: ? 15:16 Joubu Should have been Patron? 15:16 Joubu that's it? 15:17 tcohen nope, I was thinking... how should we standarize? 15:17 tcohen we have Koha::Borrowers 15:17 Joubu and already 4 modules in Koha::Borrower::* 15:18 Joubu that's why I didn't create a Koha::Patron 15:18 tcohen you patch introduces Koha::PatronCAtegories 15:18 tcohen bug 14836 15:18 Joubu ha 15:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the patron categories related code to Koha::PatronCategories 15:18 Joubu :D 15:19 Joubu I don't remember why I did that 15:19 Joubu but definitively, it's not the best one :) 15:19 Joubu Either Koha::Patron::Category or Koha::Borrower::Category 15:22 tcohen borrower coff coff 15:23 Joubu yes but... already 4 modules in i 15:23 Joubu t 15:24 Joubu but I'm ok to open the door :) 15:24 tcohen and the problem is.... ? 15:24 Joubu so you move it to Borrower? 15:24 * tcohen hides 15:24 Joubu sorry, not concentrate... 15:26 tcohen Joubu: au contraire 15:27 Joubu so go for Patron :) 15:37 tcohen Joubu: nooooo 15:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14917: 700/710/711 fix path for icon in XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58a0186dd243d011954e06dc314df2e462b1e1fe> / Bug 14518: Allow deleting records with holds (and no item) after confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69400a635c98f2da7ddfc3d4902a087cff12dce3> / Bug 6379: Fix if the reviewer is not the same patron <http://git.koha-community.or 15:55 nitz0 Hi people... 16:01 nitz0 I mysqldump a DB from Koha 3.08, then I upload it to koha 3.20. Finally I mysqldump 3.20 and the size of boths SQLs files are not the same. Is that ok? Or I am losing information data? 16:06 nitz0 cait_: Hi. Are you there? 16:22 nitz0 @hi 16:22 huginn nitz0: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 16:22 Joubu tcohen: ? 16:22 Joubu your follow-up on bug 14888 is wrong 16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move the cities related code to Koha::Cities 16:24 Joubu @later tell tcohen IMPORTANT your followup on bug 14888 is wrong, revert! Otherwise the tests are not launched in a transaction and data are modified 16:24 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:30 Joubu bye 17:30 * cait waves at mveron 17:31 * mveron waves back... 17:31 cait khall: the document delivery looks really interesting :) 17:32 khall thanks! still a work in progress, but it's getting close to done! 17:36 mveron Hi khall :-) 17:36 khall good day mveron! 17:36 mveron khall: ....rather evening at our place :-) 17:37 khall lol 17:37 mveron khall: Are you expert for TalkingTech? I need somebody testing Bug 14960 (one of the files) 17:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14960 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Dates from files in misc/cronjobs (part 1) 17:38 khall I saw that. I suppose I *am* the TT expert. I'll put that bug on the todo list 17:38 mveron Great! 17:39 cait mveron: could you do me a favour? :) 17:39 cait a small one 17:39 cait just a quick test of bug 14377 17:39 mveron A recceipee? 17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wsalesky, Failed QA , Indicate that a record is suppressed in staff client 17:39 mveron :-) 17:39 cait because i couldn't get it to work 17:39 cait in my installation 17:40 cait shouldn't take long 17:40 mveron cait: I will have a look... 17:40 cait thank you 17:40 cait i was puzzled by it, but I really couldn't get it to work 17:40 cait the test only showed up for me when i set the test to "1" to be always true 17:40 cait so the right XSLT file was used... but the condition was not true for my record... 18:00 mveron cait: It works for me - but I had to wait until the index cronjob triggered. 18:00 mveron To be sure I changed 942n to 1 and additionally 245 a to something like Blahblah. 18:00 cait i reindexed manually, but it didn't show hm 18:00 Kchris I am testing the patch for bug 14776 on kohadevbox. Once the patch is applied, the SCO user's information disappears. But the OPAC language menus never display. I am thinking that this may be because I only have English installed. However, I haven't been able to install additional languages on the Kohadevbox. 18:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14776 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , SCO/shelfcheck 'log out' option redirects to OPAC, not back to SCO 18:00 mveron Then I searched for Blahblah... 18:00 cait how does your 942 look like? 18:01 cait could you try with 'my' 942 from the bug report? 18:01 mveron cait: in n I have 1 18:01 mveron cait: Will try... 18:02 cait thank you 18:02 tcohen Joubu: hmpf 18:06 mario back 18:07 tcohen khall: are you taking care of 14915? 18:07 Kchris If anyone has experience installing languages on Kohadevbox, advice would be most appreciated. 18:07 khall tcohen: not sure what you mean 18:08 tcohen khall: I just read my email and saw some concern from Jonatahn 18:08 khall yes, I had not seen that. I will look into it 18:08 tcohen was just checking if you were the one working on that bug 18:09 khall tcohen: yes I am! 18:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14888: Revert "Bug 14888: (QA followup) remove unused lib/var" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c066239f38ac03dad12fd57cbfdae1745fa9fbf> 18:09 cait tcohen: does kohadevbox work like packages? 18:10 tcohen hi cait 18:10 cait hi tcohen 18:10 tcohen kohadevbox install the packages, and gitifies the install 18:10 tcohen so yes 18:10 cait so installing new languages... 18:11 tcohen you should use the ansible branch 18:11 Kchris hi cait, tcohen. 18:11 tcohen ah 18:11 tcohen good question 18:11 cait for Kchris 18:11 cait :) 18:11 tcohen for languages, perl translate install de 18:11 tcohen because koha-translate is not tweaked to work on the kohaclone dir 18:12 Kchris tcohen: I think I this is where I was getting stuck on a bug you proposed I attempt to "sign off" on earlier. 18:12 Kchris I couldn't get the languages to install on the kohadvebox. 18:13 tcohen oh, i'm sorry! 18:13 tcohen you should cd kohaclone/misc/translator 18:13 tcohen perl translate install <lang_code> 18:16 Kchris hmm. I think the perl libraries are not being located. or I don't have them installed. 18:17 Kchris "can't locate Koha/Config/SysPrefs.pm in @INC" etc 18:36 mveron cait: If I put an additional blank after the 1 in 942n it does not trigger. I have then to change the XSL, add the normalize-space function, and it works again. 18:48 cait ah 18:48 cait i used the yesno authorised value 18:49 cait hm but it was not visible in the marcxml output 18:49 cait oh 18:49 cait could it be some replace thing for fields linked to authrosed values? 18:49 cait i will check that 18:59 mveron cait: yesno doesn't seem to trigger at my site 18:59 cait did you link the authorised vlaue to the 942n ? 19:00 cait it still stores the 1... but i think there might be some magic going on for display that breaks the check 19:10 mveron cait: I tweaked the xsl to display the value for 942n, and it magically.... displays... Yes :-) 19:10 cait argh 19:11 cait that means we got a problem 19:11 cait because the yes_no is translated 19:11 cait thx for the help mveron 19:11 cait mveron++ 19:11 cait in german we have ja/nein etc.... not sure how to check that in xslt 19:12 cait and i think linking the field with an authorised value is recommended, but yes_no was introduced late... so not even that is a sure thing 19:14 mveron Welcome... 19:14 wahanui Welcome to zombo.com 19:14 mveron cait: I made some notes on the bug 19:14 cait oh awesome 19:14 cait i will check in a bit... doing the dishes first 19:34 mveron cait: I created an authorized value category ONE_ZERO and gave it 0 / 1 for the values and for all descriptions. It works, and it displays 1 or 0 correctly on 942 n fields that had YES_NO before 20:31 wizzyrea has anyone else observed a problem with authority searching where the results don't turn up, on a fully up to date Jessie? 20:36 mveron Good night / daytime #koha :-) 20:42 cait wizzyrea++ 20:42 wizzyrea ? 20:42 cait mailing list :) 20:43 wizzyrea ohh 20:43 wizzyrea yeah I'm about to address his other 3.18.11 bug as well 20:43 wizzyrea I think his DB has gone funny 20:44 wizzyrea OpenSUSE, I mean who knows. 20:46 wizzyrea it all wfm - rather looks like he missed a db update or is using old mysql or he's somehow messed up his schema - case in point, auth_subfield_structure.linkid is a bit value, not an integer... 20:47 cait hm think i missed that one 20:48 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14952 20:48 huginn 04Bug 14952: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , web installer database errors on 3.18.11 20:48 wizzyrea I couldn't replicate either of them 20:48 cait hm maybe an even older problem 20:50 wizzyrea also in the schema, the address can be null so... 20:50 wizzyrea looks local. 20:51 cait hm yeah 20:51 wizzyrea well it can't be null, but it can be empty, I should say 20:52 wizzyrea anyway. 21:34 eythian hi 22:04 eythian @wunder nzwn 22:04 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 22:04 dcook @wunder syd 22:04 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Mascot, Mascot, New South Wales is 22.8°C (8:21 AM AEDT on October 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 22:04 eythian huh. above 14. Haven't seen that for a while 22:04 dcook You guys didn't get that heat yesterday? 22:10 cdickinson it wasn't that hot yesterday, but god was it nice 22:11 cdickinson and it's even better today 22:11 cdickinson this is my favourtie weather, now if only I didn't have a cold 22:11 cdickinson favourite* 22:25 Francesca wahanui fire 22:25 wahanui I'm on fiiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaah! 22:25 Francesca fire is also http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/72725341/man-accidentally-sets-room-on-fire-during-live-stream 22:25 wahanui okay, Francesca. 22:52 eythian http://www.androidplanet.nl/nieuws/android-6-0-marshmallow-downloaden/ <-- wizzyrea, marshmallow is officially out now if you feel like a manual upgrade 22:52 wizzyrea nexus 4 :( 22:53 eythian ah 22:53 wizzyrea someday soon I might get a 5x 22:53 wizzyrea I really like my nexus 4 22:53 wizzyrea it's the perfect size. 22:53 dcook wizzyrea: how big is the screen? 22:53 Francesca I have a s5 22:53 dcook I find my S3 a bit on the hefty side.. 22:53 Francesca do you think ti will get marshmallow 22:53 wizzyrea 4inch I think 22:53 Francesca I just replaced my s3 22:53 wizzyrea not for ages 22:54 Francesca sad 22:54 wizzyrea because samsung is daft. 22:54 dcook ^ 22:54 wizzyrea it's just true. 22:54 wizzyrea they take ages. 22:54 Francesca ah well lollipop is cool 22:54 cdickinson wizzyrea: everyone but google 22:54 eythian wizzyrea: when you've had a better sized phone than the N4, it starts to feel like a tiny tiny iphone or something though :) 22:54 Francesca still want marshmellow though 22:54 wizzyrea because of their stupid proprietary UI 22:54 cdickinson I'm still on an S3 mini 22:54 wizzyrea idunno 22:54 cdickinson and I never got more than 4.1 Jelly Bean 22:54 cdickinson CyanogenMod to the rescue 22:54 wizzyrea I play around with trea's bigger phone 22:54 Francesca My s3 got up to 4.3 22:54 dcook Yeah, I keep meaning to try CyanogenMod 22:54 Francesca I think 22:54 wizzyrea and it feels like carrying around a frikkin tablet. 22:54 dcook ^ 22:55 Francesca My s5 came with lollipop out of the box 22:55 wizzyrea which, I don't much like. 22:55 Francesca you don't like lollipop? 22:55 wizzyrea I have a tablet for tablet-y things 22:55 eythian oh, rats. I can't manually update because I foolishly didn't unlock my bootloader when I got my new phone. I need to wait for the OTA update images. 22:55 cdickinson I have bigger hands than Francesca and I'm not sure about the size 22:55 wizzyrea no no I like lollipop just fine 22:55 eythian I have two hands. 22:55 Francesca I'd hope so 22:57 wizzyrea it's probably an actual security concern to not be on the latest android. 22:57 Francesca yeah 22:57 wizzyrea which is why I'll end up with a new phone sooner than later :( 22:57 wizzyrea one that I'll likely like less. 22:57 Francesca lollipop is quite cool and I don't wanna lose the awesome built in camera on samsung 22:57 Francesca why don't you use a custom ROM? 22:57 wizzyrea because I'm lazy :P 22:58 wizzyrea it may come to that 22:58 wizzyrea maybe. 22:58 Francesca lol 22:58 cdickinson CyanogenMod is good, but Lollipop is taxing on old hardware 22:58 wizzyrea well my tablet is probably due for a hardware refresh. I might not replace it though. 22:58 wizzyrea so a bigger phone might make sense 22:59 wizzyrea but seriously, holding some of these phones up to your head looks ridiculous. 22:59 dcook eythian: You have two hands? I must use my phone more than I should, as it always seems like one of my hands is occupied while the other is using the phone 22:59 dcook That sounds worse than I mean... 22:59 wizzyrea it's like people who take pictures in public with an iPad 22:59 wizzyrea that is just silly. 22:59 dcook Carrying groceries, holding the bars on the bus.. 22:59 wizzyrea (looking) 22:59 cdickinson lol 22:59 Francesca I have always needed 2 hands to use my phone 22:59 dcook wizzyrea: A friend lost her phone recently, so now she does phone calls on her iPad as well ;) 22:59 Francesca well not always 22:59 Francesca but I have small hands 22:59 wizzyrea I am so sorry for your friends. 22:59 wizzyrea friend* 23:00 dcook hehe 23:00 dcook "I am so sorry for your friends." 23:00 Francesca the s5 is probably as a big as I'll go in screen sizes 23:00 dcook The context with that could make that so amusing.. 23:00 wizzyrea well that isn't what I meant. 23:00 wizzyrea :P 23:00 dcook :p 23:00 eythian https://twitter.com/simonpegg/status/15788826307 <-- dcook 23:00 dcook Well, I count you as a friend, wizzyrea, so there we go :p 23:00 wizzyrea YES exactly 23:00 Francesca beautiful 23:00 dcook eythian: Yes. That. 23:00 wahanui i heard yes. that was what we are doing now. if we have more patrons then it becomes tough. 23:00 wizzyrea that is the perfect thing. 23:00 Francesca just why 23:01 Francesca why would you make calls on an ipad 23:01 dcook You don't have a phone? 23:01 cdickinson might as well be holding up our laptops to our ears in a couple of years 23:01 wizzyrea necessity, I'd reckon. 23:01 dcook cdickinson: Laptops? 23:01 Francesca hahahaha 23:01 wizzyrea I'd buy a $20 dumb phone before I'd do that. 23:01 dcook I'm hoping in a couple of years we won't even need laps 23:01 Francesca making a call on my macbook pro 23:01 Francesca hmmm 23:02 dcook See... I was thinking of a lapless life as being either a cyborg or some sort of digital consciousness, but now I can just imagine gruesome possibilities... 23:02 Francesca don't think it'd work somehow 23:02 Francesca dcook: should we be concerned 23:02 dcook That could make for an interesting short story... 23:02 dcook All the rich transfer their consciousnesses to the web and the poor people tend the machines that keep them literally in power 23:02 Francesca maybe I should have written my essay on technology 23:02 Francesca instead of cats 23:03 dcook Then some visionary just decides to pull the power plug O_O 23:03 dcook The rich will wish they invested in solar panels and wind power then... 23:03 Francesca lol 23:03 dcook Technology cats... 23:04 Francesca duh duh duuuuuh 23:04 Francesca smartcats 23:04 dcook If only I had rapid photoshop skills to make a Thundercats gif with them all wearing nerd glasses... 23:04 cdickinson iCats 23:04 * dcook figures this gif exists now that he's typed that sentence out 23:04 Francesca hahaha probably 23:05 cdickinson http://www.research.philips.com/technologies/projects/robotics/images/icat-0.jpg 23:05 cdickinson creepy 23:05 Francesca there is an ibin outside the pire street dairy 23:05 dcook Oh no... 23:05 * dcook closes his HexChat window for a bit 23:05 dcook Too creeped out :p 23:06 cdickinson /clear is your friend 23:06 Francesca it gets rid of everything 23:08 wizzyrea smh 23:08 Francesca smh? 23:08 dcook Sydney Morning Herald 23:08 * dcook giggles 23:08 cdickinson lol 23:08 cdickinson Shaking My Head 23:08 dcook The funny thing is that "smh...smh" still works 23:08 Francesca oh ok 23:09 dcook Ok, actually closing this window 23:09 cdickinson that's something wahanui could do that's actually useful for a change 23:09 dcook Err minimizing... 23:09 Francesca lol ok 23:09 cdickinson outside of nslookup, which is awesome 23:12 Francesca alright I should probably go 23:13 Francesca *sigh* 23:13 Francesca have work to do at home 23:55 dcook "The DOM XML record model is experimental, and its inner workings might change in future releases of the Zebra Information Server." 23:55 dcook Didn't know that... 23:55 * dcook wonders how old that statement is 23:56 dcook Fun software idea: 23:57 dcook Government announces a 13th month and mandates that all software must be updated to support this new 13th month 23:57 dcook I suppose that's actually not that bad... 23:57 dcook It would be worse if we did away with months and just used years and days... 23:59 dcook Is there an ISO format for taking into account planetary time differences? 23:59 * dcook needs more science friends