Time Nick Message 00:01 wizzyrea yeah, idk. 00:01 wizzyrea oldest version ever. 00:01 wizzyrea I suppose we still have 2.2's hanging out there 00:01 wizzyrea since those are the ones that reliably work on windows. 00:03 eythian wizzyrea: <vex> is nz.archive.ubuntu.com 404'ing for anyone else 00:03 eythian not just you 00:03 wizzyrea \o/ 00:04 wizzyrea that's ubuntu, I was having trouble with debian - but yeah something is up there. 00:04 eythian same host, I think 00:04 wizzyrea good point 00:04 eythian citilink I think 00:05 wizzyrea kinda glad my thing got postponed, tbh 00:44 ibeardslee eythian: #ubuntu-nz was also mentioning that 02:53 eythian wow, that passport I completed the renewal for yesterday shipped today 02:53 eythian that's surprisingly fast 02:55 Francesca good news then? 02:55 wahanui well, good news then is that what koha displays is right on the page :) 02:56 Francesca is it one of those 10 year ones? 02:56 eythian no 02:56 eythian I need one sooner than they're coming out 02:56 eythian my current one is getting dangerously close to expiring and I have travel approaching. 02:56 Francesca ah 02:56 Francesca where are you going? travel sounds good right about now 02:57 eythian https://2015.osdc.com.au/schedule/presentation/39/ 02:57 eythian (i.e. Hobart) 02:57 Francesca hahaha 02:57 Francesca looks cool 03:02 eythian @later tell dcook flight fixed. 03:02 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 03:20 bwagman Hi. I am having an issue with a new install. I added a whole bunch of Z39.50 searches because I cannot seem to get any to find ISBN's. I am using a pre-made virtual machine running debian jessie. I am not much of a linux user and I dont know if there may be something set up wrong in the actual install coding or in the web interface. The virtual machine does have access to the internet but you cannot access the Koha instance fr 03:26 wizzyrea Do you have them set to unimarc instead of marc21? 03:26 bwagman hmmm... let me check 03:28 bwagman they are all unimarc -- and all utf8 except one which is marc-8 03:28 wizzyrea change them to marc21 03:28 wahanui wizzyrea: that doesn't look right 03:29 wizzyrea or change one, and see if that one works 03:29 wahanui wizzyrea: that doesn't look right 03:29 wizzyrea and if it does 03:29 bwagman ok one sec and ill try a search too 03:29 wizzyrea change the rest :) 03:29 wahanui wizzyrea: that doesn't look right 03:29 wizzyrea literal change 03:29 wahanui wizzyrea: change =is= done|to make it easier translatable - i think maybe not try tomake it do everything now, but make afirst step? 03:29 wizzyrea sh wahanui. 03:29 wizzyrea (he's a bot) 03:29 wizzyrea he/she/it. 03:31 wizzyrea we really ought to default that to blank. 03:32 bwagman thanks i was a little confused lol. Ive changed about 6 of my searches to MARC21 and will try a search now. Im sure at least one of those 6 will pick something up. one sec 03:33 wizzyrea if that was the problem, yeah :) 03:35 bwagman nope no dice. its still coming back no results 03:35 wizzyrea what sources are you using? 03:35 bwagman thank you for helping me by the way 03:35 wizzyrea you can paste them at paste.koha-community.org 03:36 wizzyrea ah it's what we do 03:36 bwagman sources? the z39.50 stuff? sorry i am not a librarian 03:36 wizzyrea yep, whatever you put in for them: hostname, port, database, syntax, encoding, record type 03:38 pastebot "bwagman" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "z39.50 sources" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/78 03:39 bwagman i guess i could have formatted that better. first time using the paste thingy 03:41 wizzyrea that's alright 03:42 wizzyrea what's the isbn you are trying with 03:43 bwagman 9780077341329 03:45 wizzyrea That doesn't seem like the best test book 03:46 wizzyrea 9780545010221 03:46 bwagman let me see if i can find another. im running through storage and seem to only be finding textbooks lol sorry be right back 03:47 wizzyrea sok 03:47 wizzyrea I don't get anything out of, at least, the access penn one 03:49 wizzyrea try adding lx2.loc.gov port 210 db LCDB USMARC UTF8 03:49 bwagman i didnt even get the penn one to pull that up and im searching all of them, 03:50 bwagman i found two regular books in storage 03:50 wizzyrea and with that ISBN I gave you 03:50 bwagman checking them know 03:50 wizzyrea I didn't get anything at all out of the penn one 03:50 wizzyrea LOC is the best to test with, as far as connectivity goes. 03:50 wizzyrea if you can find stuff in LOC, then something is wrong with your definitions 03:51 bwagman ok one sec i just saw your source to add 03:51 wizzyrea if you can't, you probably have some kind of problem with connectivity 03:51 bwagman oooh wait 03:51 bwagman so one of the bboks i found before i added your source pulled up a ton 03:52 wizzyrea cool :) 03:52 wizzyrea you'll probably want to set them all to MARC21/UTF8 03:53 bwagman however they are all wrong. maybe i mistyped. ugh. let me add your suggestion 03:53 bwagman nvm i puit yours in. i got harry potter 03:53 bwagman (facepalm) 03:54 bwagman let me try one of mine. 03:55 wizzyrea :) 03:55 wizzyrea at least we know it's not connectivity 03:55 pastebot "bwagman" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "harry potter" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/79 03:55 wizzyrea yep that seems right 03:57 bwagman maybe my books are just too off the wall 03:57 wizzyrea it can happen :/ 03:57 eythian MARC-8 needs to be put down, out of our misery. 03:57 wizzyrea library of congress should come up with something for them 03:57 bwagman well at least i know that it does work 03:57 wizzyrea maybe. 03:57 eythian wahanui: marc-8 03:57 wahanui i think marc-8 is let's take rule 123, combine it with incompetence, stupidity, and malice, and turn that into something we'll call a 'character set' that really isn't. 03:57 eythian that's about right 03:58 * wizzyrea nods 03:58 bwagman i will go through and change them all to marc21 03:59 eythian you really don't want to import unimarc into a marc21 library. Madness _will_ ensue. 03:59 wizzyrea ^^^^^ 03:59 wizzyrea Harry Potter is <reply> 9780545010221 03:59 wizzyrea ^ best book for testing z-targets 03:59 bwagman how do i know what my library is set up for? 04:00 eythian bwagman: where is your library based? 04:00 wizzyrea and what did you tell it when you installed Koha ^.^ 04:00 eythian also that :) 04:00 wizzyrea oh you said it was a virtualbox. It will probably be MARC21 04:01 bwagman it was a preconfigured virtual machine I got from the web 04:01 eythian ah 04:01 eythian probably MARC21 then, yeah 04:01 wizzyrea kohadevbox or something else? 04:01 bwagman um its the new version on debian jessie. i need to find my paperwork i printed to say the source 04:03 bwagman this guy -- http://www.joshhertel.com/home/newkohaimage 04:05 bwagman yup marc21. i will be sure to update the z39 searchs for that 04:05 eythian please don't put that into production with its default passwords though. 04:05 bwagman thanks again you guys were awesome. i was pounding my head on the desk for the past week 04:06 wizzyrea yep nw, good luck on your Koha adventure 04:06 bwagman I will not. I have to learn how to change the debian passwords. I think his manual mentions that 04:06 eythian ah cool 04:06 bwagman thanks again! ohy maybe one more quick question 04:07 wizzyrea shoot 04:07 bwagman how do i get the opac on the web? do i need a public Static IP from my ISP? 04:07 bwagman or can i link it somehow to my godaddy basic hosting? 04:08 eythian I wouldn't recommend hooking it up to something like that, that'd be quite complicated. 04:08 wizzyrea yeah, don't do that with a virtualbox 04:08 eythian you will need a static IP pointing to the server that it's running on. 04:08 eythian but also, ... 04:08 eythian what wizzyrea said 04:09 bwagman i converted it to a Hyper-v. But if i do, i will move it to a physical. 04:09 wizzyrea but. IF you wanted to actually connect it to the web on a real server, you'd want a static IP from your ISP, and probably a domain name to make things easy. 04:09 * eythian wonders if the vbox images can be updated from within them. 04:10 bwagman Thanks. I will definatly find someone to help with that when I get there but not for a few years lol 04:10 wizzyrea :) 04:10 bwagman @eythain what do you mean update? update the OS or the Koha? 04:10 huginn bwagman: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 04:10 wizzyrea probably - wouldn't you just update it, then take an image at the update point? 04:10 eythian bwagman: I was thinking Koha, but also the OS. 04:11 eythian wizzyrea: the question is, how is Koha installed within the image? 04:11 wizzyrea yeah good point, idk 04:11 bwagman You would just act as if its a physical machine your working with. Yes you can update it. 04:11 wizzyrea probably a package but... who knows 04:11 eythian bwagman: well, it's more a function of how the Koha image is built. 04:12 bwagman That link i gave explaines how to install from scrach if you wanted to on a vurtual machine 04:12 wizzyrea install instructions? 04:12 wizzyrea installation? 04:12 wahanui installation is, like, running a modified 3.6.x 04:12 wizzyrea bah 04:13 wizzyrea koha on debian 04:13 wahanui koha on debian is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 04:13 wizzyrea ^ these are really the only instructions you want to use 04:13 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 04:13 wizzyrea this actually 04:13 eythian no wahanui, installation is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 04:13 wahanui okay, eythian. 04:13 wizzyrea forget koha on debian 04:13 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot koha on debian 04:13 wizzyrea koha on debian is <reply> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 04:14 bwagman good point. i dont know much yet on koha. Ill figure out how to update it eventually (koha) 04:14 bwagman thanks for the link.... looks like i have a lot of "light" reading in my near future 04:14 wizzyrea those instructions aren't too much different from the ones on the wiki 04:14 wizzyrea from the (pretty literally) 10 seconds I spent looking at them 04:15 wizzyrea BUT 04:15 wizzyrea I wouldn't use those instructions. Always go to koha-community.org sites because we have the most recent everything. 04:16 wizzyrea </end schoolmarm advice> 04:16 bwagman ok cool. yeah i searched VM on there and it brought the outdated 2012 stuff up so i wandered away 04:16 wizzyrea Yeah, we don't really support VM's 04:16 wizzyrea except kohadevbox 04:16 wizzyrea and that's kind of a project outside of Koha 04:17 eythian and for dev rather than production 04:17 wizzyrea (and ^ that) 04:17 bwagman ok no i understand. I just dont know enough about debian to install it on a physical comp. Im not good with command line 04:17 bwagman and i did not have a spare server 04:17 wizzyrea it's alright. You could practice with an empty VM :) 04:18 wizzyrea for funsies. 04:18 wizzyrea what I would probably do 04:18 wizzyrea would be to find a debian image 04:18 wizzyrea then install koha on it 04:18 bwagman will do!thanks again! have a great night! i will go get my learn on! 04:18 wizzyrea good luck :) 05:28 Amit_Gupta hi all 06:09 * magnuse waves 06:43 alex_a bonjour 06:43 wahanui hey, alex_a 06:44 reiveune hello 06:44 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:46 fridolin hie there 07:04 magnuse bonjour france! 07:07 Joubu hello 07:07 wahanui kia ora, Joubu 07:55 cait1 morning #koha 08:00 * Francesca waves at cait1 08:01 * cait1 waves at Francesca 08:02 Francesca different nickname than usual today? 08:03 * magnuse waves again 08:05 magnuse ooh, has Viktor / viktorsarge_ managed to clone himself? 08:05 * cait1 wnats to be his pupil then and learn how to do that 08:06 * magnuse too 08:12 Francesca hahaha 08:12 * Francesca would like to clone herself too 08:21 cait1 magnuse: hm is one of the Viktors alive? 08:22 magnuse looks like one of them evaporated 08:22 magnuse so maybe he can clone himself, but the clones are short lived 08:22 cait1 too bad 08:22 cait1 there had to be a catch 08:23 magnuse yeah... 08:23 magnuse might be able to improve that over time, though 08:23 Amit_Gupta hi magnuse 08:25 Francesca cloning would be so useful for uni 08:25 magnuse hiya Amit_Gupta 08:46 magnuse oh noes, we lost the last viktor too! 08:50 cait1 it gets scary 08:50 cait1 maybe this cloning needs some more testing... and QA! 09:31 Francesca cdickinson /cdickinphone has learnt the art of cloning as well 09:32 cdickinson they're not quite the same 09:32 cait1 the art... or the curse? :) 09:32 Francesca hmmm cdickinson you tell me 09:32 cdickinphone But the same person 09:32 Francesca is cloning a curse or an artform 09:32 cdickinphone Art 09:32 cdickinson curse 09:32 Francesca hahaha 09:33 Francesca are you just going to contradict yourself everytime? 09:33 Francesca @wunder wlg 09:33 cdickinson yes 09:33 cdickinphone No 09:33 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (9:00 PM NZST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 09:33 * Francesca should have seen that coming 09:33 cdickinson lol 09:34 Francesca ohh look its actually warming up 09:34 Francesca maybe it'll be nice tomorrow? 09:34 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt 09:34 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 10.5°C (9:30 PM NZST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 09:35 vidya I am getting following error Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23. 09:42 vidya_ How to slove this error? Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 793. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 89. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-main.pl line 23. 09:44 cdickinson vidya_ / vidya: check your MySQL database details in koha-conf.xml are correct 10:05 Amit_Gupta bug @6810 10:34 cait1 bug 6810 10:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6810 enhancement, P4, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Send membership expiry reminder notices 10:43 magnuse @wunder boo 10:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 10:53 cait1 @wunder Konstanz 10:53 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 12.2°C (12:53 PM CEST on September 23, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 11:07 magnuse kia ora andreashm 11:07 andreashm hej magnuse 11:16 cait1 oh 11:16 cait1 now i missed andreas 11:23 cait1 Joubu++ 11:50 magnuse happy equinox, #koha! 11:59 cait1 hi Viktor 12:01 Viktor Hi cait1 12:02 cait1 hm seems today is the day of clones 12:03 magnuse druthb! 12:03 wahanui druthb is an amazing person 12:03 magnuse yay 12:05 Viktor As long as it's not the clone wars... 12:06 cait1 heh 12:06 cait1 not that bad yet i think 12:12 magnuse ah migrations! never a boring day 12:18 magnuse librarytech-- 12:23 cait1 *grumps along* 12:23 cait1 trying to make sense of all the price and tax stuff in acq right now 12:26 * magnuse feels sorry for cait 12:27 * magnuse sends cookies 12:27 cait1 acq data migration 12:40 * magnuse whips the data into shape anyway 12:41 Joubu cait1: it would have been easier with the tax rewrite ;) 12:41 cait1 i totally believe you 12:42 cait1 why do we store discount as 3.000 and gst as 0.07? when it's the same value? :( 12:42 cait1 i mean... both percentages 12:43 Joubu because it's much more complicated this way? 12:43 cait1 ah right 12:43 Joubu you can have a lot of pleasure with *100 and /100 in the code 13:16 cait1 Joubu: i am tryin to stay optimistic, but it's hard today :) 13:40 paul_p Joubu hello ;-) 13:42 Joubu paul_p: Salut! 13:54 cait1 Joubu: i see your call for me on the bugs - hope i will get to before monday 13:54 cait1 travelling again tomorrow and bug hunting in the acq migration :( 13:55 Joubu There is no bug in the acq module, we would know it 14:22 magnuse pianohacker! 14:22 wahanui regexes are AWESOME 14:22 magnuse yay! 14:22 pianohacker hi magnuse :) 14:45 cait1 Joubu: in this case, it's bugs in our migration program 14:49 Joubu @later tell tcohen never around when I need you! 14:49 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 14:54 magnuse would the koc system be up for ingesting 36000 issues/loans? 14:56 Joubu I would say yes, but just to let you give it a try :) 14:57 magnuse :-) 15:08 reiveune bye 15:44 Joubu magnuse: Could you explain me the point of the ansible branch in the kohadevbox repo? 15:44 Joubu Is there something we can do using ansible that we cannot with the master branch? 15:45 Joubu Does the idea to switch at some point to this branch? 16:09 xarragon_ Deep recursion on subroutine "t::lib::TestBuilder::build", is this normal when you have a foreign key constraint to the same table? 16:11 Joubu xarragon_: yes, certainly. You can try to define a value for it, the builder won't try to create it (maybe) 16:11 Joubu have to go, see you tomorrow 16:15 xarragon_ Yes, I set it to either undef or the primary key of another, existing element. 16:17 xarragon_ On line 118 TestBuilder::build calls $self->build for foreign keys.. 16:17 xarragon_ But I only have 4 values, an adjacency list. 16:17 xarragon_ It is hierartical data stored as id/parent on rows. 16:17 xarragon_ With a foreign key constraint to ensure the parent actually exists. 16:19 xarragon_ Hmm.. wait. I am being stupid. 16:21 xarragon_ Not sure if it is even advisable to use a fk on that since I do have root nodes with null for parent 16:25 xarragon_ well, it does seem to be common to use fks on them so 16:28 xarragon_ Ok guys.. A while back i completed an implementation of MARC Field history and rollback functionality 16:28 xarragon_ Anyone interested in that feature? Testing it, giving suggestions for improvement etc? It is filed as a bug complete with patches 16:29 xarragon_ http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14367 16:29 huginn 04Bug 14367: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , History for MARC records. Roll back changes on a timeline or per field. 16:30 xarragon_ Going to set it to 'needs signoff' 16:42 barton tcohen -- looks like bug 14217 is at passed QA -- do you still want an additional signoff? 16:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14217 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes 16:47 xarragon_ So even trivial schemas with onlyid/parent seems to trigger 'deep recursion', seemingly > 100 recursions. I must be using builder wrong. 17:32 tcohen hi 17:32 wahanui salut, tcohen 18:35 nitz0 Hi, I am having a weird issue with language: I installed es-ES (Koha 3.20). Then I allow users to change it but en-EN is disabled in L18N/L10N config. The issue is that I test it from different computers but there is one thata allways charge Koha using english (all firefox navigators). 18:52 cait hm strange 18:53 cait have you tried deleting cookies? 18:53 nitz0 I tried using lynx and the page opens using english. 18:53 nitz0 hi cait. 18:53 cait normally it detects from the browser first 18:54 cait the language settings for the preferred languages in the browser 18:54 nitz0 uhm, lets see.. 18:54 cait and also stores the user's preference in the cookie 18:54 cait so i wonder why it would only happen on one computer hm. 18:55 nitz0 I tried with different users in the same computer and all opens it using english. 18:55 cait didyou try deletingthecookies? 18:56 nitz0 I be back, I am going to try. 18:57 liw eat or eat not, there is no delete 19:03 chris_n liw: LOL... my thoughts exactly 19:16 Irene Hello! I have installed koha to a Local area networked computer. I was wondering how I can configure it to be accessible through my website 19:32 tcohen hi cait 19:32 cait hi tcohen 21:11 wizzyrea hi 21:26 nitz0 cait : I needed to configure spanish language in firefox language preferences. 21:27 cait ah, that explains 21:27 * cait waves at wizzyrea 21:27 wizzyrea hi 21:56 eythian hi 22:47 Francesca hey 22:48 wizzyrea hallo 22:48 Francesca sup