Time  Nick        Message
00:03 dcook       https://letsencrypt.org/2015/09/14/our-first-cert.html
00:14 pianohacker @letsencrypt++
00:14 huginn`     pianohacker: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
00:17 dcook       Encrypt all the things!
00:17 dcook       Also hey pianohacker :)
00:20 pianohacker hi dcook!
00:21 wizzyrea    yay!
00:21 * dcook     waves to wizzyrea too
00:23 pianohacker hi wizzyrea
00:36 dcook       I somehow have an entry in borrower_modifications with a borrowernumber... what does this mean...
00:38 dcook       Huh... I think I may have got a md5 collision as well
00:39 pianohacker dcook: with or without?
00:39 dcook       Actually, I have no idea what I'm talking about right now...lol
00:39 dcook       Wait no... yeah...
00:39 dcook       pianohacker: Somehow someone got an email with a md5 token which already existed in the database..
00:40 dcook       So when they tried to self-register... it actually used the pre-existing entry
00:40 dcook       Which was a bad entry and caused a database error
00:40 dcook       Both of which had borrowernumbers of 0... the entry with the borrowernumber seems unrelated?
00:40 pianohacker oh my.
00:41 dcook       Let's see if I can reproduce it..
00:46 dcook       But that doesn't make sense either..
01:00 pianohacker bye koha
01:12 wizzyrea    whooooah
01:12 dcook       O_O
01:17 dojobo      D:
01:37 dcook       TFW you reply to a digest and forget to change the subject heading... *shameface*
01:44 wizzyrea    SHAME
01:46 dcook       :(
02:22 dcook       Oh snap, I was able to do it...
02:22 dcook       Well I haven't reproduced it, but I think I know why I'm getting duplicate md5 hashes in the self-registration
02:22 dcook       Wicked..
02:26 dcook       Hmm...
02:26 dcook       So the self-registration does "my $verification_token = md5_hex( \%borrower );"
02:26 dcook       Which doesn't make a hash using the borrower details
02:27 dcook       Rather, it makes a hash using the memory address of the hash...
02:27 dcook       Like "HASH(0x18bb568)"
02:29 wizzyrea    I take it someone else has reported a md5 collision as well?
02:29 dcook       Nope, but I'm seeing lots of duplicates in my message_queue
02:30 dcook       Different patrons getting the same token with different details..
02:30 wizzyrea    that seems wrong.
02:30 dcook       Agreed
02:30 dcook       Let's see what the frequency is..
02:31 dcook       Hmm 19 instances of the same token
02:31 dcook       Or rather..
02:32 dcook       Yes, one token is shared 19 times, another is shared 2 times, another is shared 2 times, and the rest are unique
02:33 dcook       Started in July and it's gone on through September
02:34 dcook       It still seems a bit far fetched but it's happened..
02:34 dcook       Trying to make a script to prove that it happens...
02:35 wizzyrea    I'd have to really think through how often you'd end up with the same memory address
02:35 dcook       It seems like it would be rare
02:36 wizzyrea    that's what my intuition says but that is not grounded in facts.
02:36 dcook       Time for me to learn a new thing :)
02:36 wizzyrea    well and I guess it would really depend on the environment?
02:37 wizzyrea    me
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea
02:37 wizzyrea    depth
02:37 wizzyrea    :)
02:37 dcook       Yeah, I think it would really depend
02:44 dcook       Hmm, I can't reproduce it with a simple test..
02:44 dcook       2.5 million different tries and it came up with a different address each time
02:45 dcook       Ah... but it's moving sequentially..
02:46 dcook       Each is 24 decimal points higher than the last..
02:47 dcook       I don't think it would duplicate until I ran out of memory in that case..
02:48 dcook       Let's see if I can do this manually...
02:49 dcook       But the verification_token and borrowernumber are the a composite primary key which should be unique..
02:55 dcook       Whoa... what the..
02:56 dcook       It's not the memory address that's the problem...
02:56 dcook       It's the emails
02:56 dcook       In borrower_modifications, I have 3 different tokens
02:56 dcook       But in the message_queue, I only have 2 different tokens for 3 emails
02:56 * dcook     does a little dance
02:57 dcook       Ok, it was more of a rocking side to side in my chair...
03:08 liw         much energetic. such vigor.
03:14 wizzyrea    hehe liw
03:18 dcook       Hehe
03:18 dcook       Energy and vigor is the only way I know how...
03:23 liw         I got up at 4:30 to get to the airport for a work trip, so energy and vigor are absent. luckily I have a new laptop battery that should last me a few hours.
03:23 dcook       liw: You're on IRC, so you must have some energy
03:24 liw         don't count on that, I can irc in my sleep (or at least some of my irc logs look like that when I read them afterwards)
03:24 dcook       hehe
03:25 dcook       I won't feel bad if you stop answering then ;)
03:25 liw         :)
03:25 dcook       Now what am I missing to turn on the self registration..
03:26 dcook       Ah right..
03:27 dcook       Booyah. Reproduced again.
03:27 dcook       Now give me your secrets logs..
03:30 dcook       Ah I think this has been fixed in master already..
03:36 dcook       Need to upgrade to a newer version of Koha..
04:02 dcook       Now to remember how to fix the EDS plugin..
04:19 dcook       Ah, sweet I already have a pull request for that
04:19 dcook       And all the other remaining issues are still issues
04:25 Amit_Gupta  hi all
05:23 * magnuse   waves
06:12 * magnuse   waves again
06:14 * dcook     waves to magnuse
06:14 * magnuse   waves back
06:15 magnuse     almost timt to go home?
06:20 dcook       Mmm 40 minutes?
06:20 dcook       Still lots of time to get through some emails
06:21 magnuse     yay
06:34 reiveune    hello
06:39 fridolin    hie community, bonjour
06:39 magnuse     bonjour fridolin
06:40 magnuse     ...and reiveune
06:40 reiveune    salut magnuse dcook rangi and everybody
06:48 magnuse     ooh zebra merch http://www.zazzle.com/indexdata
06:49 Joubu       yop yop
07:00 alex_a      bonjour
07:00 wahanui     salut, alex_a
07:07 magnuse     not happy with the sorting of "norwegian wovels" - anyone know off the top of their heads which zbra config file to tweak?
07:13 cait        hm
07:14 cait        there is a sort file
07:14 cait        or 2 maybe even
07:14 cait        this one maybe? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=etc/zebradb/lang_defs/nb;h=a585b47ef1acd4612cd1bf76ef4eeeda30de528a;hb=8dfde8b85a6eeea4db4f79e35d6540d0bfc9cdf4
07:14 Joubu       @later tell pianohacker I'd say it depends :) What is the context? It it helps to understand the thought, several patches can be better
07:14 huginn`     Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:15 magnuse     yeah, i found sort-string-utf.chr but changing it does not affect the results (after reindexing)
07:15 cait        where are you looking at the results, the result list?
07:15 magnuse     yup
07:15 magnuse     but i probably need to restart zebra too?
07:16 magnuse     nope, that did not fix it
07:17 magnuse     restart + reindex = same result
07:18 magnuse     looking at result lists both in opac and intranet, sorted by title both az and za
07:25 Joubu       cait: bug 14821: so if the checkin has not been done, it shouldn't appear in the table, that's it?
07:25 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14821 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Don't show item in checked in list, when it wasn't checked in
07:26 Joubu       in the code, this looks like an enh, not a bug...
07:36 cait        Joubu: i'd think so yes - or at least display a note i the table 'not checked in'
07:36 cait        but might be good to get some opinions - pianohacker said that their customes got confused by it, maybe we shoudl check with him
07:36 cait        but could be an enh
07:38 cait        Joubu: bug 10612 is weird
07:38 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Add ability to delete patrons with batch patron deletion tool
07:39 cait        I didn't use any of the criteria, just the patron list in my tests
07:57 * magnuse   facepalms
07:57 wahanui     facepalms is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.
07:58 magnuse     i was editing the right file in the wrong location - gitified install...
08:15 cait        magnuse: oups
08:18 magnuse     patch coming :-)
08:34 Joubu       cait: sorry, didn't see your answers. I don't understand for 10612, I have just followed the plan I have put in the previous comment
08:34 Joubu       and it works quite well
08:35 cait        sorry phone, will check later
08:47 drojf       hi #koha
08:47 magnuse     there, bug 14824 is a fun little signoff
08:47 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14824 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix sorting of Norwegian vowels
08:50 drojf       that reminds me i should pick up the bug for the german language file one day :D
09:19 * andreashm waves
09:36 cait        drojf: yes, you should
09:45 drojf       cait: :P
09:45 drojf       later #koha
09:45 cait        tsk
10:04 drojf       hello again
10:30 jerwyn      guy!
10:30 jerwyn      guys!
10:30 jerwyn      is someone here?
10:31 jerwyn      drojf!
10:32 * jerwyn    slaps BobB around a bit with a large fishbot
10:34 Francesca   why fishbot
10:34 jerwyn      sorry
10:34 jerwyn      was new here
10:35 jerwyn      you there Francesca?
10:35 jerwyn      ~Francesca
10:35 Francesca   hi
10:35 jerwyn      nice
10:35 cdickinson  do you need some help, jerwyn?
10:35 jerwyn      someone is here
10:36 jerwyn      yes
10:36 jerwyn      have question..
10:36 jerwyn      glad there are people here
10:36 jerwyn      thought no one..
10:36 cdickinson  lol, the european guys should be around by now
10:36 cdickinson  it's late her in NZ
10:36 cdickinson  here*
10:37 jerwyn      oh
10:37 jerwyn      anyways
10:37 cdickinson  what was it you needed help with?
10:37 jerwyn      is there any problem with koha repository?
10:38 jerwyn      can't install either old and stable
10:38 cdickinson  not as far as I know, but I haven't refreshed my Koha as a Service for a couple of days
10:38 cdickinson  hmm
10:39 cait        lunch time:)
10:39 jerwyn      hmmn
10:39 cdickinson  I'll check on my end, jerwyn
10:39 jerwyn      thanks cdickinson!
10:40 cdickinson  I can update the package lists fine at the moment
10:40 jerwyn      sorry for my naivety how do you make your name red to me?
10:40 cdickinson  red?
10:40 wahanui     red is conflict, green is pushed, and black is "nothing done"
10:40 cdickinson  oh
10:40 jerwyn      sorry im new here
10:40 cdickinson  do you want any text from me to alert you?
10:41 jerwyn      2nd time so far
10:41 jerwyn      yes how do you make it red?
10:41 cdickinson  jerwyn: in that case, I'll just make sure to say your name like this
10:41 cdickinson  well, just mentioning it at all works
10:41 jerwyn      cdickinson: like this?
10:41 jerwyn      does it work?
10:42 cdickinson  it alerts me that you talked to me, yes
10:42 cdickinson  alerting you of every single thing I post, though, not sure
10:42 jerwyn      alright thanks for that
10:42 cdickinson  depends on the IRC client
10:42 jerwyn      okay going back
10:43 cdickinson  I'll just refresh one of my Koha instances and get it to install Koha again
10:45 jerwyn_     this is what
10:45 jerwyn_     I often get
10:45 jerwyn_     W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/dists/oldstable/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'debian.koha-community.org'
10:45 jerwyn_     any idea?
10:45 wahanui     rumour has it any idea is the  UseTransportCostMatrix  used anywhere
10:45 cdickinson  oh
10:46 jerwyn_     when I run apt-get update
10:46 cdickinson  that means you can't resolve the domain name for debian.koha-community.org
10:46 cdickinson  works for me here, that's weird
10:47 cdickinson  you might have a DNS problem on your connection
10:47 jerwyn_     hmmmmmmmn
10:48 jerwyn_     this one is from VMware
10:48 jerwyn_     installed debian wheezy 8.1
10:48 jerwyn_     rather
10:48 jerwyn_     7.8
10:48 cdickinson  shouldn't really make a difference
10:49 jerwyn_     from Oracle VirtualBox
10:49 cdickinson  what does 'nslookup debian.koha-community.org' say?
10:49 jerwyn_     what should I run? sorry
10:49 cdickinson  nslookup debian.koha-community.org
10:49 wahanui     debian.koha-community.org is
10:49 jerwyn_     ;; Got bad packet: FORMERR 59 bytes 35 f2 81 00 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 06 64 65 62          5............deb 69 61 6e 0e 6b 6f 68 61 2d 63 6f 6d 6d 75 6e 69          ian.koha-communi 74 79 03 6f 72 67 00 00 01 00 01 c0 0c 00 00 01          ty.org.......... 00 00 01 0a b7 00 04 43 dc 7f 91                         .......C...
10:50 cdickinson  wow, wahanuio
10:50 cdickinson  wahanui*
10:51 Joubu       ping ?
10:52 Joubu       more /etc/resolv.conf
10:52 jerwyn_     Joubu: is that for me?
10:52 Joubu       yes
10:53 jerwyn_     root@library:~# ping PING ( 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from icmp_req=1 ttl=44 time=136 ms 64 bytes from icmp_req=2 ttl=44 time=138 ms
10:53 cait        hi dro
10:53 Joubu       and resolv.conf?
10:53 wahanui     hmmm... resolv.conf is what the dhcp server dutifully gives everyone. should just work
10:53 cdickinson  jerwyn_: the second command helps us learn what nameserver you're using
10:54 jerwyn_     more /etc/resolv.conf
10:54 jerwyn_     root@library:~# more /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver
10:54 cdickinson  oh, a local one
10:54 wahanui     rumour has it a local one is probably installed through CPAN
10:54 Joubu       usually not a good idea to edit it when managed by network-manager
10:55 cdickinson  can you add, for instance, to the connection through NetworkManager, jerwyn_?
10:55 Joubu       and what's
10:55 cdickinson  Joubu: that would be provided by VMware's virtual network, presumably, apparently it's a VMware VM
10:56 cdickinson  so the host may have a bad DNS configuration
10:56 jerwyn_     network manager under virtualmachine
10:56 jerwyn_     ?
10:56 cdickinson  yep
10:56 cdickinson  give it a try
10:57 jerwyn_     I guess
10:57 jerwyn_     ok I'll try
10:57 cdickinson  not really fixing the underlying issue, but it would probably get it working for now
10:57 jerwyn_     not sure with
10:57 jerwyn_     since my eth0 is
10:58 cdickinson  jerwyn_: if it's a VM, the hypervisor would probably be using NAT
10:58 jerwyn_     I am using bridge
10:58 jerwyn_     should I use NAT?
10:59 cdickinson  bridge?
10:59 cdickinson  that means it shows up on your local network as if it was a real machine
10:59 jerwyn_     Bridge Adapter
11:00 cdickinson  can you check the nameserver the host machine is configured with?
11:00 jerwyn_     how?
11:01 cdickinson  what OS is your host machine running?
11:01 jerwyn_     Debian Jessie
11:01 cdickinson  in that case, same procedure
11:01 jerwyn_     also have a problem on this
11:02 jerwyn_     have read in the forum that there are some issues with jessie
11:02 cdickinson  use Ubuntu here so I'm not really though
11:02 cdickinson  sure*
11:02 cdickinson  though that has its own share of issues >_>
11:03 jerwyn_     as I have read community recommend debian
11:04 cdickinson  yeah
11:04 cdickinson  this isn't really a Debian issue though
11:05 cdickinson  your VM just isn't resolving the domain name which points to the package repository
11:05 jerwyn_     hmmn
11:06 jerwyn_     maybe because Im using the latest version?
11:06 cdickinson  nah, that's got nothing to do with it
11:06 jerwyn_     oh
11:06 cdickinson  something is wrong with either your DNS configuration on your network, or the DNS server itself
11:08 jerwyn_     my current setup is a typical broaband and a linksys router
11:11 jerwyn_     saw it on my iphone that my dns is
11:16 cdickinson is probably the IP address of your router
11:17 cdickinson  log into your router and check what DNS servers are configured on it?
11:17 jerwyn_ is the Ip of my router
11:17 cdickinson  well what is then?
11:18 jerwyn_     the DNS I guess
11:18 cdickinson  ping ?
11:18 jerwyn_     root@library:~# ping PING ( 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from icmp_req=1 ttl=63 time=4.07 ms 64 bytes from icmp_req=2 ttl=63 time=3.39 ms
11:19 cdickinson  nslookup debian.koha-community.org
11:19 jerwyn_     root@library:~# nslookup debian.koha-community.org Server: Address:  Non-authoritative answer: debian.koha-community.org	canonical name = kohawiki.esilibrary.com. Name:	kohawiki.esilibrary.com Address:
11:20 cdickinson  looks like it's working now
11:20 cdickinson  try apt-get update again?
11:20 jerwyn_     all static DNS are set to
11:20 jerwyn_     I'll check
11:20 jerwyn_     same
11:20 jerwyn_     Err http://debian.koha-community.org oldstable Release.gpg                        Could not resolve 'debian.koha-community.org'
11:21 cdickinson  ???
11:22 jerwyn_     same error i got
11:22 cdickinson  there must be something wrong with the configuration of the VM or something, then
11:22 jerwyn_     what do you use to get connection?
11:22 jerwyn_     NAT?
11:22 wahanui     NAT is fine, but you need to complement it with a host only.
11:23 cdickinson  cat /etc/nsswitch.conf
11:23 jerwyn_     root@library:~# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try: # `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.  passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 networks:       files  protocols:      db files servi
11:24 cdickinson  on the hosts line
11:24 cdickinson  in between mdns4_minimal and [NOTFOUND=return]
11:24 cdickinson  add 'dns'
11:24 cdickinson  try again after
11:24 jerwyn_     what should I do?
11:25 cdickinson  jerwyn_: change the hosts like so it looks like this
11:25 wahanui     cdickinson: that doesn't look right
11:25 cdickinson  jerwyn: hosts: files mdns4_minimal dns [NOTFOUND=return]
11:25 jerwyn_     the host
11:25 wahanui     the host is a technical institute.
11:26 cdickinson  by the way, ignore wahanui, it is a chat bot
11:26 jerwyn_     copy..
11:32 magnuse     after running gather_print_notices.pl the resulting html shows non-ascii chars as diamonds-with-questionmark: "F�rfattare" - anyone else seen that?
11:32 cait        hm not yet, but i'd file a bug
11:32 cait        hm thought we had fixed that once... but.
11:33 cdickinson  jerwyn_: how did it go?
11:34 cdickinson  I guess not
11:34 cdickinson  @wunder lower hutt
11:35 huginn`     cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 12.2°C (11:30 PM NZST on September 15, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
11:38 magnuse     cait: yeah, i think it is fixed in master by bug 11603
11:38 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export
11:38 magnuse     http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39037&action=diff is "fix encoding issues"
11:44 jerwyn      cdickinson: so far what I did is added a dns to my routher reboot the vm and changed Bridge Adapted to NAT
11:45 jerwyn      and still same error
11:45 cdickinson  can you access other sites on the VM?
11:45 cdickinson  as in, anything?
11:45 jerwyn_     yes
11:45 jerwyn_     I can
11:45 cdickinson  hmmm
11:46 cdickinson  jerwyn / jerwyn_: did you make the change to /etc/nsswitch.conf like I suggested before?
11:46 jerwyn      how about my source
11:47 jerwyn_     these are my sources
11:47 jerwyn_     deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main  deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
11:47 cdickinson  yeah, that should be fine
11:47 jerwyn_     well I guess it has no bearing
11:47 cdickinson  can you post your /etc/nsswitch.conf again?
11:48 jerwyn      still
11:48 jerwyn      the host has problem
11:48 jerwyn      cdickinson
11:48 wahanui     I run windows. Don't judge me.
11:48 jerwyn_     passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 networks:       files  protocols:      db files services:       db files ethers:         db files rpc:            db files
11:48 cdickinson  ohhh
11:48 cdickinson  get rid of [NOTFOUND=return]
11:49 cdickinson  try it after that
11:49 jerwyn_     what should I replace?
11:49 cdickinson  jerwyn_: <cdickinson> get rid of [NOTFOUND=return]
11:49 jerwyn_     I just leave the file
11:50 jerwyn_     same error with the update
11:51 cdickinson  jerwyn_: did you actually get rid of [NOT FOUND=return] from /etc/nsswitch.conf like I said?
11:51 jerwyn_     yeap
11:51 cdickinson  hmmm
11:51 jerwyn_     its now
11:51 jerwyn_     passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files networks:       files  protocols:      db files services:       db files ethers:         db files rpc:            db files  netgroup:       nis\
11:51 cdickinson  jerwyn_: it's supposed to be like this
11:51 cdickinson  hosts: files mdns4_minimal dns mdns4
11:52 jerwyn_     copy2
11:52 jerwyn_     still get
11:52 jerwyn_     W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/dists/oldstable/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'debian.koha-community.org'
11:53 jerwyn_     with this
11:53 jerwyn_     passwd:         compat group:          compat shadow:         compat  hosts:          files mdns4_minimal dns mdns4 networks:       files  protocols:      db files services:       db files ethers:         db files rpc:            db files
11:53 cdickinson  okay
11:53 cdickinson  nslookup debian.koha-community.org
11:53 wahanui     debian.koha-community.org is
11:54 jerwyn_     root@library:~# nslookup debian.koha-community.org ;; Got bad packet: FORMERR 59 bytes a4 11 81 00 00 01 00 01 00 00 00 00 06 64 65 62          .............deb 69 61 6e 0e 6b 6f 68 61 2d 63 6f 6d 6d 75 6e 69          ian.koha-communi 74 79 03 6f 72 67 00 00 01 00 01 c0 0c 00 00 01          ty.org.......... 00 00 00 fa d2 00 04 43 dc 7f 91                         .......C...
11:54 cdickinson  jerwyn_: that's not normal
11:55 cdickinson  but when we contact the DNS server directly for that address, it works fine
11:55 jerwyn_     hmmn
11:55 cdickinson  so I'm not really sure
11:55 cdickinson  what does /etc/resolv.conf look like right now?\
11:55 jerwyn_     # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver
11:56 cdickinson  jerwyn_: manually add to the top of that file, and then try again
11:56 jerwyn_     i'll comment out the 192?
11:56 cdickinson  you can if you want, but it shouldn't matter
11:57 jerwyn_     wait
11:57 jerwyn_     looks like working
11:57 cdickinson  something is weird with that local DNS server that you have there
11:57 cdickinson  nslookup debian.koha-community.org
11:57 cdickinson  give that a try?
11:58 jerwyn_     cdickinson: your the best!
11:58 jerwyn_     its now working
11:59 cdickinson  it's not fully fixed, your network has a configuration issue somewhere, but overriding the DNS server like that can help in the mean time, yeah
12:00 jerwyn_     yeah its just fine brother
12:00 jerwyn_     I'll just be using this for a offline presentation
12:00 cdickinson  ah, cool
12:01 jerwyn_     haha youre the best dude
12:01 cdickinson  no problem, happy to help
12:01 jerwyn_     your from new zld right?
12:01 cdickinson  yep, that's right
12:01 jerwyn_     from what library?
12:01 jerwyn_     are you a librarian?
12:01 cdickinson  no
12:02 cdickinson  I actually am at Catalyst, one of the companies working on Koha
12:02 jerwyn_     ohh I see
12:02 jerwyn_     heard a lot of stuff with your team
12:03 jerwyn_     is Chris Cormack is from your team?
12:03 cdickinson  I haven't been working with them for long, and I don't work on Koha itself as such, but the others do a lot of important work around here, yeah
12:03 cdickinson  yep, that's him
12:03 cdickinson  he is the Technical Lead for the Koha team here
12:04 jerwyn_     oh
12:05 jerwyn_     by profession you are IT?
12:05 cdickinson  yeah
12:05 cdickinson  I'm actually still a student, finishing off my last year in Network Engineering
12:05 jerwyn_     good to hear that
12:06 jerwyn_     really admire people in your country
12:06 jerwyn_     even though young people can do stuff as a professional
12:06 jerwyn_     heard even teen agers
12:06 jerwyn_     thats we lack here in the Philippines
12:07 cdickinson  in IT in general, it doesn't matter too much about your age or experience
12:07 cdickinson  knowledge is important, but teamwork and will/ability to learn are more important factors
12:07 jerwyn_     there should be a someone who can mentor
12:08 jerwyn_     yeah collaboration works best..
12:08 cdickinson  I have supervisors who watch over me doing my work on Koha
12:08 cdickinson  and I do co-ordinate with others as much as I can
12:09 jerwyn_     we dont have that kind of set-up here
12:11 cdickinson  really depends on the company you end up at, even here in NZ
12:12 cdickinson  I'm really lucky here at Catalyst
12:13 cdickinson  alright, it's time for me to hit the hay
12:13 cdickinson  00:13 here now
12:13 cdickinson  nice to chat with you, jerwyn_, good luck with that presentation
12:14 jerwyn_     alright cdickinson: thanks a lot!
12:16 cdickinson  no problem
12:16 cdickinson  good night jerwyn_, #koha
12:21 drojf       @seen marcelr
12:21 huginn`     drojf: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 43 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <marcelr> there is a report already for the duplicate code
12:22 drojf       @later tell marcelr for 14321, "Verify that you can download the file in OPAC without being logged in", how would i do that? where should i try to download it?
12:22 huginn`     drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:34 drojf       @later tell marcelr nevermind, i found it in a later step
12:34 huginn`     drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:59 * magnuse   cheers bug 8753 on
12:59 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
13:22 francharb   Hello #koha
13:23 francharb   Has anyone ever used the print transport type for overdue notices?
13:23 francharb   I can't trigger it
13:24 cait        have you checked the checkbox in the notice triggers for print?
13:24 francharb   yes
13:24 cait        hm
13:24 cait        it works ok for a library we have... 3.18.something
13:25 francharb   If my patron doesnt have an email, should it work like the email transport type?
13:25 cait        not quite
13:25 cait        an email with the text is sent to the library
13:25 francharb   I can't print it in the html file?
13:26 cait        i think it also creates a print entry
13:26 cait        and you shoudl be able to print all print entries with the job
13:26 cait        have you checked your database?
13:26 francharb   I will
13:26 cait        i just did: select * from message_queue where message_transport_type = "print"
13:27 francharb   thing is, I don't know what I should look for and how it should behave
13:27 cait        i can see some in this library - the third notice they always sent in print only and soem where I think there is no patron email
13:27 cait        oh
13:27 francharb   I like that option
13:27 cait        and you don't want the overdue_ntocies script
13:27 cait        look at gather_print_notices
13:28 cait        so first check there are print notices queued
13:28 francharb   Ok and then I should use the gater_print_notices
13:28 francharb   makes sense
13:28 francharb   That's the missing part!
13:28 francharb   Thanks cait!!
13:29 cait        :)
13:29 cait        bug 11678 is not in yet, but might be interesting in this context
13:29 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Gather print notices: send files by email
13:31 francharb   Thanks cait! what I need works. I'll have a look at this bug.
13:31 cait        have to go, bye all
13:42 magnuse     francharb: see also bug 11603, which is in master
13:42 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Gather print notices: add csv and ods export
13:42 francharb   thanks magnuse
14:56 tcohen      hi #koha
14:57 vfernandes  hi :)
14:58 vfernandes  one quick question: it's possible to have different from emails when processing the message queue?
14:59 vfernandes  is library X koha uses the FROM email Y, if library Z then FROM email W
15:09 tcohen      vfernandes: each branch has its own email address
15:10 vfernandes  but that email is used to process the message queue?
15:14 Joubu       vfernandes: it depends I'd say
15:14 Joubu       for instance, for overdue_notices, the branch's email should be used
15:15 Joubu       but fallback on the pref adminemailaddressorsomething
15:15 Joubu       KohaAdminEmailAddress
15:15 wahanui     KohaAdminEmailAddress is worth a look
15:48 nitz0       hi...
16:49 * Joubu     screams loudly to wake up #koha
17:02 * Joubu     will try again tomorrow...
17:02 pianohacker augh!
17:26 reiveune    bye
17:40 tcohen      hi
20:57 Francesca   morning
21:01 tcohen      hi Francesca
21:01 Francesca   hey tcohen
21:01 Francesca   sup
21:02 * cait      waves
21:03 wnickc      hi cait
21:03 tcohen      hi cait! wnickc!
21:03 cait        hi tcohen :)
21:03 cait        i was starting to get a little worried :)
21:04 tcohen      it's rosh hashanah
21:04 tcohen      we have a two-day national holiday for jewish people
21:05 cait        oh
21:05 cait        ok, so i  iwll stop to be worried
21:15 pianohacker wahanui: forget pianohacker
21:15 wahanui     pianohacker: I forgot pianohacker
21:15 pianohacker wahanui: pianohacker is <reply>regexes are AWESOME
21:15 wahanui     OK, pianohacker.
21:19 pianohacker pianohacker?
21:19 wahanui     regexes are AWESOME
21:19 pianohacker hell yeah wahanui
21:19 pianohacker high five
21:19 cait        pianohacker: i had already started on the wrong branch grump ;)
21:19 cait        i need to check again now
21:20 pianohacker hehe
21:46 * Francesca waves at cait and piano hacker
21:50 Francesca   @roulette
21:50 huginn`     Francesca: *click*
21:50 Francesca   @roulette spin
21:50 huginn`     *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
21:51 pianohacker hi Fran cesca
22:12 tcohen      eythian: ?
22:12 tcohen      around?
22:12 wizzyrea    nope
22:12 wizzyrea    tomorrow maybe
22:12 tcohen      do u know when he'll be a
22:12 tcohen      ah, that
22:12 wahanui     well, ah, that is just to say that everything should be on one line
22:12 tcohen      thanks wizzyrea
22:13 wizzyrea    :)
22:26 tmcmahon    Does anyone here have any idea what would cause the keyboard shortcuts to switch to the wrong tabs?  I've tried it with stable and oldstable packages on Debian 8.
22:26 tcohen      try to delete the cached content on the browser
22:27 tmcmahon    I tried that before and it didn't help.  Just tried it again.  Still the same.
22:28 cait        do you mean the circulation shortcuts for koha?
22:28 wizzyrea    did something change recently for you?
22:29 cait        there was something on the mailing list about that - but i need to leave
22:29 tmcmahon    I've been running on an older tarball install and have bee trying to migrate to a new server using debian packages.
22:29 cait        bye all
22:30 tmcmahon    Yes.  The shortcuts used in circulation.
22:30 wizzyrea    and you are sure you have cleared the cache. completely.
22:30 wizzyrea    did you try it in a private window?
22:31 tcohen      Ctrl+Shift+r
22:31 wizzyrea    private window lives completely outside existing caches, so when I'm unsure (or don't want to delete my caches aggressively) I start there.
22:32 tmcmahon    I just tried private windows in Firefox and Chromium.  No change.
22:32 tmcmahon    I also did Ctrl+Shift+r
22:33 wizzyrea    http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/circfaq.html#keyboardshort
22:34 wizzyrea    that's from this thread:
22:34 wizzyrea    https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2015-July/043373.html
22:35 tmcmahon    That's how it worked in my old version.
22:35 wizzyrea    and what does it do now? just go to the wrong ones?
22:35 wizzyrea    or something else
22:35 tmcmahon    Yes.  Wrong tabs.
22:37 tmcmahon    From mainpage.pl:  Alt+u=Search the catalog, Alt+r-Check out and Alt+q=Search patrons
22:38 wizzyrea    tcohen: I just got one of these from updatedatabase, maybe there's a typo in one of the db updates: [Wed Sep 16 10:37:57 2015] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Subquery returns more than 1 row at /home/liz/koha-src/koha/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 10862.
22:38 wizzyrea    I haven't looked into it any further than that
22:40 wizzyrea    tmcmahon: it works for me in master
22:40 tmcmahon    Alt+q=Check in from circulation-home.pl
22:40 wizzyrea    what version are you running - all 3 numbers please
22:41 tmcmahon    I tried it on some demo pages on the internet and they work fine.
22:41 tmcmahon
22:41 wnickc      I can confirm same behavior 3.18.6 Firefox+Windows 7
22:41 tmcmahon    At least that's the one I'm working on now.  I've tried oldstable too.  3.18.something
22:43 tmcmahon    The only thing in the database that I know would mess with javascript is intranetuserjs and I cleared that.
22:45 wizzyrea    what do you have in your staff-global.js, you should be able to just search for shortcut to see the code around it
22:45 wizzyrea    I'm looking at it, looks ok to me.
22:45 wizzyrea    so it seems odd that you'd have a problem on the packages, because the code is the same.
22:46 tmcmahon    I've been looking at it too.  It looks ok to me.  There should be no modified packages.
22:46 tmcmahon    or modified files.
22:52 tmcmahon    wnickc: You have the same problem?
22:52 wizzyrea    hm don't know, almost has to be local
22:53 wizzyrea    there *is* a bug in the cataloguing screen
22:53 wizzyrea    where it works weirdly
22:53 tmcmahon    I'm sure it is local or there would be more people complaining.  Unless nobody is using shortcuts.  I'm the only one here who does.
22:53 wizzyrea    :)
22:54 wizzyrea    have you hidden anything with CSS?
22:54 wizzyrea    in the search bar area
22:54 wizzyrea    theoretically it shouldn't make a difference
22:54 wizzyrea    or do you have any plugins
22:55 wizzyrea    that might change things
22:55 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
22:55 wizzyrea    or maybe do you have news items with malformed html
22:55 wizzyrea    or malformed html in any of the user configurable areas of the intranet
22:56 wizzyrea    hi mtompset
22:56 wnickc      I don't use them really, but it seemed to be matching what you said tmcmahon
22:56 tmcmahon    No.  It's just a stock install so far.  No plugins.  I checked to see if any css migrated in IntranetUserCSS.  No news items.
22:56 wnickc      alt+q on amin circ is check-in
22:56 wnickc      main circ
22:56 wizzyrea    anything in intranetnav?
22:57 tmcmahon    Intranetnav is empty.
22:57 wizzyrea    or intranetmainuserblock
22:57 tmcmahon    Also empty.
22:58 wizzyrea    hm.
22:58 mtompset    Greetings, wizzyrea. :)
22:58 wizzyrea    alt-q always gives me "search the catalogue"
22:58 wizzyrea    oh, heh no it doesn't
22:58 wizzyrea    it does on circ home
22:58 wizzyrea    and on the home page
22:58 wizzyrea    but not on any searches where there are additional tabs.
22:58 wizzyrea    i.e. members.
22:59 wizzyrea    /patrons
22:59 wizzyrea    and cataloguing
22:59 wahanui     somebody said cataloguing was always compelling
23:00 wizzyrea    on the serials search one, it actually takes you to returns.
23:00 wizzyrea    which seems wrong.
23:00 wizzyrea    so the shortcuts are just very buggy
23:01 wizzyrea    basically, if the tabs below the search aren't checkout, check in, and search the catalogue
23:01 wizzyrea    you can expect it to get weird.
23:03 tmcmahon    From the looks of the code it shouldn't get weird with extra tabs.  At least to me, but I don't know much about javascript.
23:04 wizzyrea    actual behaviour would indicate differently :)
23:05 wizzyrea    I'd have to poke at it - what I've just noticed isn't what you noticed though?
23:05 wizzyrea    or is it?
23:06 tmcmahon    It seems like my problem is a bit more than that.  None of it works for me.
23:13 wizzyrea    you don't have a non-US keyboard or a different keyboard layout? that's really grasping at straws, I recognise.
23:14 tmcmahon    Nope.  Regular US keyboard.
23:17 wizzyrea    add on's in your browser?
23:20 tmcmahon    I don't have any on the Windows machine I tried it from.  None on Chromium on this computer, but there are a few on Firefox on this computer.
23:20 wizzyrea    yeah probably not that then
23:20 wizzyrea    not sure, mystery problem :)
23:21 tmcmahon    I'll see if I can get the time to do a fresh install tomorrow without importing our database and go from there.
23:21 tmcmahon    Then I'll probably come back for more.
23:30 wizzyrea    yeah, with a fresh database would be instructive. good luck :)