Time Nick Message 22:20 bag enjoy the bush 22:16 mtj ciao cait, bag ;0) 22:14 mtj have a great weekend #koha 22:13 mtj so, will catch y'all later 22:12 mtj i am just getting ready to head outside for a bushwalk 22:12 cait hi mtj :) 22:11 * mtj waves to bag, cait, tcohen 21:57 nitz0 bye 21:57 nitz0 see you next week. 21:57 nitz0 thx mtj, cait, tcohen and pianohacker. 21:56 nitz0 very easy, all up to date... 21:56 nitz0 ii koha-common 3.20.03 all integrated (physical) library management system 21:55 nitz0 well, thats not so clean here 21:54 nitz0 Ju 21:54 nitz0 ii koha-common 3.20.03 all integrated (physical) library management system 21:54 nitz0 +++-=========================================-===================================================-============-=============================================================================== 21:54 nitz0 ||/ Nombre Versión Arquitectura Descripción 21:54 nitz0 |/ Err?=(ninguno)/Requiere-reinst (Estado,Err: mayúsc.=malo) 21:54 nitz0 | Estado=No/Instalado/Config-files/Desempaquetado/Medio-conf/Medio-inst/espera-disparo/pendiente-disparo 21:54 nitz0 Deseado=Desconocido/Instalar/Eliminar/Purgar/Retener 21:52 bag heya mtj 21:52 mtj ..something like that? ^ 21:51 mtj ii koha-common 3.20.02 all integrated (physical) library man 21:51 mtj $ dpkg -l koha-common 21:50 mtj nitz0: you can ask dpkg for a koha version 21:50 nitz0 Anyway, Version de Koha:3.20.03.000 21:49 nitz0 Well, it's ok. I was just playing with koha-* commands. 21:45 cait but i am not sure where the file is in a package installation 21:45 cait on file level... there should be kohaversion.pl with the version 21:44 cait koha shows it on the about page 21:43 nitz0 Is there a way to know koha version using, for example, koha-shell? 21:26 nitz0 vie sep 11 18:26:03 ART 2015 21:11 tcohen apt-get upgrade for the win! 21:10 tcohen nitz0: then go for it! 21:04 nitz0 I didn't 21:04 nitz0 great 21:04 cait if you haven't done that... you probably won't have a poblem :) 21:04 cait like a second library running form the same code, but haven't finished the installation 21:03 cait it only applies if you have created more than one instance 21:02 nitz0 Ok, no problem, I don't undertand what that means. What that limitation is. No problem. I will learn it day by day. 20:59 tcohen (like if you created an instance but never loaded a db or run the webinstaller 20:59 tcohen if you have non-populated instances 20:59 tcohen nitz0: one caveat (we are going to have fixed soon ;-)) but not yet 20:58 nitz0 ok, let's magically try 20:58 cait updating is cool :) 20:58 tcohen *automagically* 20:57 tcohen and it will autoagically run koha-upgrade-schema for your instances 20:57 tcohen sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 20:57 tcohen in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 20:56 wahanui tcohen: that doesn't look right 20:56 tcohen nitz0: change from oldstable to stable 20:56 tcohen ah, right 20:56 cait tcohen: about nitz0 question - updating with packages 20:55 cait ohoh 20:55 tcohen hmpf 20:54 tcohen cait? 20:53 cait tcohen: you stop me if i say nonsense, right? :) 20:53 cait so i think the answer is yes 20:53 cait cdickinson: we have way more of the weekend left ;) 20:53 cait doing a backup first 20:53 cdickinson 08:52 Saturday here 20:53 cait nitz0: you just install th enew package i think :) 20:52 cait it's 22:52 here :) 20:52 bag nah but cait - I am crazy hungry - which makes me grumpy 20:52 cait cdickinson: nope we are done 20:52 cdickinson you unlucky europeans, still working this week 20:52 nitz0 cait: I did a packet install in my computer. Then I import a DB dump from a 3.08v and run all commands lines to set up the 3.18v. I was asking my self if there is a way, now, not to do the same process. If there is a way to just upgrade from 3.18v to 3.20v. 20:52 pianohacker poor huginn, no ops :) 20:52 cait bad day at the office? 20:50 bag ha 20:50 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers. 20:50 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 20:50 bag @roulette 20:50 bag heya tcohen 20:48 tcohen hi bag 20:48 tcohen nitz0: no worries, we are really proud of 3.20 :-D 20:48 bag hi cait 20:48 cait hi bag :) 20:48 cait not sure what you mean by upgrade schema? 20:47 cait technically it works without a dump 20:47 cait nitz0: you should always do a backup 20:46 huginn bag: *click* 20:46 bag @roulette 20:45 huginn *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky? 20:45 bag @roulette spin 20:43 nitz0 it's possible to upgrade 3.18 to 3.20 without mysqldump and all that upgrade schema? (is not a lot of work, just asking) 20:42 tcohen why not 3.20 :-D? 20:42 tcohen congratulations! 20:41 tcohen nitz0: that's expected :-D 20:39 nitz0 actualice del 3.08.01.002 al 3.18.10.000 con todo funcionando sin el minimo problema 20:36 * cait waves 20:32 tcohen nitz0! 20:31 nitz0 tcohen! 20:28 Peggy Hi Jesse! 20:28 pianohacker Peggy: Hi! I'm Jesse Weaver with ByWater 20:27 Peggy Hi Pianohacker. Yes, I'm with Dovernet. 20:24 pianohacker ha! 20:24 bag here 20:24 bag should stick hre 20:17 pianohacker Peggy: hi! Are you with dovernet? 20:13 nitz0 Irma Tando? 19:44 barton besides, having an automated tool means that we can figure it out retroactively when it isn't there. 19:43 barton Peggy: yeah, that's always nice to have, but I far prefer the reliability of computers :-) 19:42 barton yeah... thats strange -- I looked at the timeline for a 3.18.06.000 server; it stopped at June 23 2013 -- Koha 3.12.1 released. 19:40 Peggy maybe we could request that a note be put in each bugzilla bug when it is added in a particular release. 19:40 wnickc took me a second to figure out why our timeline in production stops in the past 19:38 barton thanks, that's good to know. 19:37 wnickc about->timeline in master has dates for releases 19:37 wnickc barton:last time I asked, the answer was no to question 1 19:33 barton is there a calender which shows when releases were released? 19:31 barton hey, I was wondering if there was a quick and reliable way to find out which release a bug was pushed to master in. 18:59 cait hi Peggy :) 18:59 wnickc missouri = mo, montana=mt, you'd never guess them all 18:59 Peggy Hi Cait! 18:59 Peggy So we are neighbors, wnickc. 18:59 wnickc don't worry, state abbreviations are wierd and not obvious 18:58 cait not familiar with those abbreviations 18:58 cait oh :) 18:58 wnickc Vermont 18:58 cait VT? 18:58 wnickc Hi cait 18:58 cait hi wnickc?:) 18:58 wnickc VT Bywater customer here :-) In Hartford (Quechee) 18:56 Peggy New Hampshire. We're one of Bywater's customers 18:48 wnickc where are you from Peggy? just curious 18:48 Peggy will do. 18:46 wnickc I agree, you could also try here on another day, Friday afternoons are slow 18:44 Peggy Thanks. I think others would like it, too. 18:42 wnickc and a lot of decision on the how 18:41 wnickc but it is big, and would need a big push 18:41 wnickc I think it's a move that would be supported, I would try sending something out on the lists 18:41 Peggy http://alkindi.ideo-cairo.org/ 18:38 Peggy We seem to have the data available, but the FRBR info used to create the editions tab comes from an external source, so I wonder if performance would ever be good enough. 18:35 Peggy Yup. I searched the support site and found a presentation that mentioned one site, but that site is in arabic and french, so it was hard for me to tell exactly what was going on. 18:33 wnickc I don't know if anyone is working on it currently 18:32 wnickc Hi Peggy, I think that you are looking for FRBR support in Koha 18:28 Peggy Would it be possible to have one result in the summary screen for each title, and have an intermediate screen that lists the different formats? Then they could choose the format to go to the detail screen. 18:27 Peggy I like the Editions tab in the records. And I'm wondering if it would be possible (albeit probably pretty complicated and expensive) to change the summary screen to reflect the work rather that the individual bib records. 18:26 Peggy I'm trying to solve a problem that my library has. When someone does a search for a title they get up to 6 different bib records for all the different formats. And if they weren't really specific (i.e. they typed "Harry Potter") they are likely to give up before they find the book they are looking for. 18:20 drojf sorry i should have off-ed that 18:19 drojf ha! 18:19 drojf ha# 18:19 drojf http://downloads.lisolutions.org/uploads/Koha2.2.8-W32-R0.EXE 18:19 * tcohen is enjoying "the unsung heroes of Koha" epub 18:18 * tcohen downloads it, while wipes his Ubuntu to install Window$ 7 18:18 drojf oh sorry that link is dead 18:17 drojf tcohen: http://cid-6ac4b4f2fe0a3144.office.live.com/self.aspx/Public/Koha2.2.9-W32-R1.EXE if you wanna try :P 18:15 drojf great to see that good old windows version of koha is still "alive" 16:08 nitz0 good morning wahanui (?) 15:21 reiveune bye 13:21 magnuse have fun #koha! 13:21 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 13:21 magnuse @wunder boo 12:23 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7241] circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241> 12:17 wahanui rumour has it logo is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation 12:17 tcohen logo? 12:16 tcohen they want to make (our) oldstable, official on the current Fedora version 12:16 tcohen yeah, i still don't have enough coffee on my system 12:15 magnuse tcohen: a *Fedora* package for koha-common? 12:10 tcohen there will be a couple package maintainers that are interested in creating what is needed to have a koha package for koha-common 12:09 nengard :) 12:09 tcohen only to tell them they are falling behind 12:09 tcohen ehh 12:09 tcohen i plan to show debian's logo really big on the screen 12:09 tcohen thanks magnuse and nengard: i'll be there at some point :-D 12:08 nengard you're welcome whenever 12:08 * tcohen is presenting Koha in the Fedora Users and Developers Conference in an hour 12:08 nengard tcohen if you're okay with my furry children there is a room just for guests :) 12:08 magnuse and we have promises of 21 during the weekend 12:08 tcohen .-D 12:08 magnuse tcohen: it sure is warm for the middle of september! 12:06 tcohen i'd love to :-D 12:06 nengard tcohen come visit Austin :) 12:06 nengard :) 12:05 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Four Seasons, Austin, Texas is 23.9°C (7:05 AM CDT on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 12:05 nengard @wunder 78754 11:59 tcohen in Cordoba, we envy your warm weather :-D 11:59 tcohen magnuse: that's warm! 11:55 magnuse hiya tcohen 11:55 magnuse woohoo! 11:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 11:55 magnuse @wunder boo 11:54 tcohen morning 11:54 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.3°C (8:50 AM ART on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). 11:54 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 11:13 saiful that way we'll not violate the PK on old_issues table 11:13 cait hm probably the easiest 11:13 saiful then move the rows with returndate to old_issues table 11:12 saiful i think the correct strategy to migrate circulation history would be to first import everything into issues table 11:12 saiful thanks cait 10:58 cait saiful: make sure you also adjust the counter in the issues table then - i know it can be done, becasue the migration script did it - but not of the top of my head 10:57 Francesca night cait, #koha 10:57 saiful i guess, I need to re-import the data with manual primary key counter in old_issues table 10:57 saiful I set the old_issues.issue_id to auto_increment before importing.. and the site has gone live now 10:56 cait so it skips the numbers you have in old_issues 10:56 cait in issues 10:56 cait yeah, i think you can set the key on the table to a value 10:55 saiful the problem will happen when the checked out books gets returned 10:55 saiful i migrated currently checked out issues to issues table, then imported circulation history to old_issues table 10:55 cait it's a unique key for the issue process, it shoudln't change becuse we move it to another talbe - it's still the same process you can refer to 10:54 cait it is the unique key and could be referenced in other places 10:54 cait yes 10:53 saiful i don't see any relationship in the table schema 10:53 cait you could add ac ounter yourself and then adjust the counter for the issues table maybe 10:53 saiful but is there a reason the issue_id has to be same in those two tables? 10:53 cait i guess what you could do is look at the sql that introduced the ids - it's not so long ago - and see how to fill in old data 10:53 cait between those 2 tables 10:53 cait if it autoincremented - the numbers would get doubled up 10:52 saiful but i think, this will be a problem during circulation history migration 10:50 saiful thanks cait for the clarification 10:48 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:30 PM NZST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 10:48 Francesca @wunder wlg 10:47 wahanui thanks Francesca :) 10:47 Francesca wahanui botsnack smiley face 10:47 cait :) 10:47 Francesca cdickinson says hi 10:47 Francesca yay company! 10:47 cait hi Francesca :) 10:46 Francesca hi 10:46 cait old_issues contains the old entries from issues, which already have a unique id when they are moved to that table 10:45 cait saiful: the id is from issues 10:09 saiful i'm referring the to the database schema in 3.20x 10:08 saiful hi, i want to know if there's a reason the old_issues.issue_id is not 'auto_increment' 09:44 paul_p hi cait 09:44 cait hi paul_p 09:40 cait magnuse++ 09:40 cait i shoudl save that info too :) 09:01 andreashm I will so definitely save that info° 09:01 andreashm cool 09:00 magnuse with -I you can add paths to @INC 09:00 magnuse yay! 08:58 andreashm magnuse++ 08:58 andreashm It seemed to work! 08:58 andreashm You are brilliant magnuse! 08:58 magnuse it is more of a kohadevbox/gitified problem, than a problem with dcook's work 08:57 magnuse try something like $ sudo koha-shell -c "perl -I/home/vagrant/kohaclone kohaclone/misc/cronjobs/oai/oai_harvester.pl -d -v" kohadev 08:57 andreashm (or anyone else that might know? cait?) 08:56 andreashm any possible solution magnuse, or should I talk to dcook about it? 08:55 magnuse that is probably a result of running gitified 08:54 magnuse :-) 08:54 andreashm (should maybe have started with that) 08:53 andreashm oh, and hi magnuse! 08:53 andreashm magnuse: could you take a look at the paste and see if you have any idea what I did wrong? 08:53 andreashm sigh, running into trouble with my testing of the OAI-PMH harvester with Kohadevbox. 08:52 pastebot "andreashm" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OAI" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/68 08:52 magnuse hiya andreashm 08:51 andreashm hi cait 08:50 cait hi magnus, drojf and andreashm :) 08:50 * andreashm waves 08:37 drojf hi cait 08:23 magnuse kia ora cait 08:23 cait morning #koha 07:13 putti Hi ! 07:08 magnuse there is no way to show the item level itemtype icons in opac result lists in koha, right? 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:01 wahanui hey, gaetan_B 07:01 gaetan_B hello 06:39 * magnuse waves again 06:31 wahanui niihau, reiveune 06:31 reiveune hello 06:13 magnuse summer is back! 06:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Falling). 06:13 magnuse @wunder boo 06:13 magnuse moin drojf 06:12 drojf hei magnuse 06:12 * magnuse waves 06:12 drojf morning #koha 05:30 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 05:30 Francesca @wunder wlg 05:30 huginn Francesca: The operation succeeded. 05:30 Francesca @later tell ibeardslee hey do you want any helpers for the open source academy this summer? 05:12 irma https://bomdevel2-admin.calyx.net.au/cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?tagfield=942&frameworkcode=DF20 05:12 irma so if 538$a can't be used, I suggest 942$n Suppress in OPAC 04:15 huginn Francesca: The operation succeeded. 04:15 Francesca @later tell rangi look! progress in bugzilla! http://i.imgur.com/DaxwMA2.png 04:07 huginn Francesca: The operation succeeded. 04:07 Francesca @later tell rangi hi do you want me to put the koha icon in the header for the new bugzilla skin? 01:53 * Francesca waves at kathryn 00:02 cdickinson .......right 00:02 Francesca but of course 00:01 ibeardslee .. well behave yourself then 00:01 Francesca it just so happens that we're also the only people in the koha office at the moment 00:00 Francesca we're just the minions 00:00 BobB the wellington team is widespread though 00:00 Francesca rangi actually since irc 00:00 Francesca we need Chris 00:00 cdickinson I hereby proclaim myself as the Technical Lead of Koha at Catalyst 00:00 Francesca nether 00:00 Francesca we've not been abandoned!