Time Nick Message 00:00 Francesca we've not been abandoned! 00:00 Francesca nether 00:00 cdickinson I hereby proclaim myself as the Technical Lead of Koha at Catalyst 00:00 Francesca we need Chris 00:00 Francesca rangi actually since irc 00:00 BobB the wellington team is widespread though 00:00 Francesca we're just the minions 00:01 Francesca it just so happens that we're also the only people in the koha office at the moment 00:01 ibeardslee .. well behave yourself then 00:02 Francesca but of course 00:02 cdickinson .......right 01:53 * Francesca waves at kathryn 04:07 Francesca @later tell rangi hi do you want me to put the koha icon in the header for the new bugzilla skin? 04:07 huginn Francesca: The operation succeeded. 04:15 Francesca @later tell rangi look! progress in bugzilla! http://i.imgur.com/DaxwMA2.png 04:15 huginn Francesca: The operation succeeded. 05:12 irma so if 538$a can't be used, I suggest 942$n Suppress in OPAC 05:12 irma https://bomdevel2-admin.calyx.net.au/cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?tagfield=942&frameworkcode=DF20 05:30 Francesca @later tell ibeardslee hey do you want any helpers for the open source academy this summer? 05:30 huginn Francesca: The operation succeeded. 05:30 Francesca @wunder wlg 05:30 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 06:12 drojf morning #koha 06:12 * magnuse waves 06:12 drojf hei magnuse 06:13 magnuse moin drojf 06:13 magnuse @wunder boo 06:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Falling). 06:13 magnuse summer is back! 06:31 reiveune hello 06:31 wahanui niihau, reiveune 06:39 * magnuse waves again 07:01 gaetan_B hello 07:01 wahanui hey, gaetan_B 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:08 magnuse there is no way to show the item level itemtype icons in opac result lists in koha, right? 07:13 putti Hi ! 08:23 cait morning #koha 08:23 magnuse kia ora cait 08:37 drojf hi cait 08:50 * andreashm waves 08:50 cait hi magnus, drojf and andreashm :) 08:51 andreashm hi cait 08:52 magnuse hiya andreashm 08:52 pastebot "andreashm" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OAI" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/68 08:53 andreashm sigh, running into trouble with my testing of the OAI-PMH harvester with Kohadevbox. 08:53 andreashm magnuse: could you take a look at the paste and see if you have any idea what I did wrong? 08:53 andreashm oh, and hi magnuse! 08:54 andreashm (should maybe have started with that) 08:54 magnuse :-) 08:55 magnuse that is probably a result of running gitified 08:56 andreashm any possible solution magnuse, or should I talk to dcook about it? 08:57 andreashm (or anyone else that might know? cait?) 08:57 magnuse try something like $ sudo koha-shell -c "perl -I/home/vagrant/kohaclone kohaclone/misc/cronjobs/oai/oai_harvester.pl -d -v" kohadev 08:58 magnuse it is more of a kohadevbox/gitified problem, than a problem with dcook's work 08:58 andreashm You are brilliant magnuse! 08:58 andreashm It seemed to work! 08:58 andreashm magnuse++ 09:00 magnuse yay! 09:00 magnuse with -I you can add paths to @INC 09:01 andreashm cool 09:01 andreashm I will so definitely save that info° 09:40 cait i shoudl save that info too :) 09:40 cait magnuse++ 09:44 cait hi paul_p 09:44 paul_p hi cait 10:08 saiful hi, i want to know if there's a reason the old_issues.issue_id is not 'auto_increment' 10:09 saiful i'm referring the to the database schema in 3.20x 10:45 cait saiful: the id is from issues 10:46 cait old_issues contains the old entries from issues, which already have a unique id when they are moved to that table 10:46 Francesca hi 10:47 cait hi Francesca :) 10:47 Francesca yay company! 10:47 Francesca cdickinson says hi 10:47 cait :) 10:47 Francesca wahanui botsnack smiley face 10:47 wahanui thanks Francesca :) 10:48 Francesca @wunder wlg 10:48 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:30 PM NZST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 10:50 saiful thanks cait for the clarification 10:52 saiful but i think, this will be a problem during circulation history migration 10:53 cait if it autoincremented - the numbers would get doubled up 10:53 cait between those 2 tables 10:53 cait i guess what you could do is look at the sql that introduced the ids - it's not so long ago - and see how to fill in old data 10:53 saiful but is there a reason the issue_id has to be same in those two tables? 10:53 cait you could add ac ounter yourself and then adjust the counter for the issues table maybe 10:53 saiful i don't see any relationship in the table schema 10:54 cait yes 10:54 cait it is the unique key and could be referenced in other places 10:55 cait it's a unique key for the issue process, it shoudln't change becuse we move it to another talbe - it's still the same process you can refer to 10:55 saiful i migrated currently checked out issues to issues table, then imported circulation history to old_issues table 10:55 saiful the problem will happen when the checked out books gets returned 10:56 cait yeah, i think you can set the key on the table to a value 10:56 cait in issues 10:56 cait so it skips the numbers you have in old_issues 10:57 saiful I set the old_issues.issue_id to auto_increment before importing.. and the site has gone live now 10:57 saiful i guess, I need to re-import the data with manual primary key counter in old_issues table 10:57 Francesca night cait, #koha 10:58 cait saiful: make sure you also adjust the counter in the issues table then - i know it can be done, becasue the migration script did it - but not of the top of my head 11:12 saiful thanks cait 11:12 saiful i think the correct strategy to migrate circulation history would be to first import everything into issues table 11:13 saiful then move the rows with returndate to old_issues table 11:13 cait hm probably the easiest 11:13 saiful that way we'll not violate the PK on old_issues table 11:54 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 11:54 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.3°C (8:50 AM ART on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). 11:54 tcohen morning 11:55 magnuse @wunder boo 11:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 11:55 magnuse woohoo! 11:55 magnuse hiya tcohen 11:59 tcohen magnuse: that's warm! 11:59 tcohen in Cordoba, we envy your warm weather :-D 12:05 nengard @wunder 78754 12:05 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Four Seasons, Austin, Texas is 23.9°C (7:05 AM CDT on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 12:06 nengard :) 12:06 nengard tcohen come visit Austin :) 12:06 tcohen i'd love to :-D 12:08 magnuse tcohen: it sure is warm for the middle of september! 12:08 tcohen .-D 12:08 magnuse and we have promises of 21 during the weekend 12:08 nengard tcohen if you're okay with my furry children there is a room just for guests :) 12:08 * tcohen is presenting Koha in the Fedora Users and Developers Conference in an hour 12:08 nengard you're welcome whenever 12:09 tcohen thanks magnuse and nengard: i'll be there at some point :-D 12:09 tcohen i plan to show debian's logo really big on the screen 12:09 tcohen ehh 12:09 tcohen only to tell them they are falling behind 12:09 nengard :) 12:10 tcohen there will be a couple package maintainers that are interested in creating what is needed to have a koha package for koha-common 12:15 magnuse tcohen: a *Fedora* package for koha-common? 12:16 tcohen yeah, i still don't have enough coffee on my system 12:16 tcohen they want to make (our) oldstable, official on the current Fedora version 12:17 tcohen logo? 12:17 wahanui rumour has it logo is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/The_Koha_Logo_:_Origins_and_Explanation 12:23 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7241] circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241> 13:21 magnuse @wunder boo 13:21 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on September 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 13:21 magnuse have fun #koha! 15:21 reiveune bye 16:08 nitz0 good morning wahanui (?) 18:15 drojf great to see that good old windows version of koha is still "alive" 18:17 drojf tcohen: http://cid-6ac4b4f2fe0a3144.office.live.com/self.aspx/Public/Koha2.2.9-W32-R1.EXE if you wanna try :P 18:18 drojf oh sorry that link is dead 18:18 * tcohen downloads it, while wipes his Ubuntu to install Window$ 7 18:19 * tcohen is enjoying "the unsung heroes of Koha" epub 18:19 drojf http://downloads.lisolutions.org/uploads/Koha2.2.8-W32-R0.EXE 18:19 drojf ha# 18:19 drojf ha! 18:20 drojf sorry i should have off-ed that 18:26 Peggy I'm trying to solve a problem that my library has. When someone does a search for a title they get up to 6 different bib records for all the different formats. And if they weren't really specific (i.e. they typed "Harry Potter") they are likely to give up before they find the book they are looking for. 18:27 Peggy I like the Editions tab in the records. And I'm wondering if it would be possible (albeit probably pretty complicated and expensive) to change the summary screen to reflect the work rather that the individual bib records. 18:28 Peggy Would it be possible to have one result in the summary screen for each title, and have an intermediate screen that lists the different formats? Then they could choose the format to go to the detail screen. 18:32 wnickc Hi Peggy, I think that you are looking for FRBR support in Koha 18:33 wnickc I don't know if anyone is working on it currently 18:35 Peggy Yup. I searched the support site and found a presentation that mentioned one site, but that site is in arabic and french, so it was hard for me to tell exactly what was going on. 18:38 Peggy We seem to have the data available, but the FRBR info used to create the editions tab comes from an external source, so I wonder if performance would ever be good enough. 18:41 Peggy http://alkindi.ideo-cairo.org/ 18:41 wnickc I think it's a move that would be supported, I would try sending something out on the lists 18:41 wnickc but it is big, and would need a big push 18:42 wnickc and a lot of decision on the how 18:44 Peggy Thanks. I think others would like it, too. 18:46 wnickc I agree, you could also try here on another day, Friday afternoons are slow 18:48 Peggy will do. 18:48 wnickc where are you from Peggy? just curious 18:56 Peggy New Hampshire. We're one of Bywater's customers 18:58 wnickc VT Bywater customer here :-) In Hartford (Quechee) 18:58 cait hi wnickc?:) 18:58 wnickc Hi cait 18:58 cait VT? 18:58 wnickc Vermont 18:58 cait oh :) 18:58 cait not familiar with those abbreviations 18:59 wnickc don't worry, state abbreviations are wierd and not obvious 18:59 Peggy So we are neighbors, wnickc. 18:59 Peggy Hi Cait! 18:59 wnickc missouri = mo, montana=mt, you'd never guess them all 18:59 cait hi Peggy :) 19:31 barton hey, I was wondering if there was a quick and reliable way to find out which release a bug was pushed to master in. 19:33 barton is there a calender which shows when releases were released? 19:37 wnickc barton:last time I asked, the answer was no to question 1 19:37 wnickc about->timeline in master has dates for releases 19:38 barton thanks, that's good to know. 19:40 wnickc took me a second to figure out why our timeline in production stops in the past 19:40 Peggy maybe we could request that a note be put in each bugzilla bug when it is added in a particular release. 19:42 barton yeah... thats strange -- I looked at the timeline for a 3.18.06.000 server; it stopped at June 23 2013 -- Koha 3.12.1 released. 19:43 barton Peggy: yeah, that's always nice to have, but I far prefer the reliability of computers :-) 19:44 barton besides, having an automated tool means that we can figure it out retroactively when it isn't there. 20:13 nitz0 Irma Tando? 20:17 pianohacker Peggy: hi! Are you with dovernet? 20:24 bag should stick hre 20:24 bag here 20:24 pianohacker ha! 20:27 Peggy Hi Pianohacker. Yes, I'm with Dovernet. 20:28 pianohacker Peggy: Hi! I'm Jesse Weaver with ByWater 20:28 Peggy Hi Jesse! 20:31 nitz0 tcohen! 20:32 tcohen nitz0! 20:36 * cait waves 20:39 nitz0 actualice del 3.08.01.002 al 3.18.10.000 con todo funcionando sin el minimo problema 20:41 tcohen nitz0: that's expected :-D 20:42 tcohen congratulations! 20:42 tcohen why not 3.20 :-D? 20:43 nitz0 it's possible to upgrade 3.18 to 3.20 without mysqldump and all that upgrade schema? (is not a lot of work, just asking) 20:45 bag @roulette spin 20:45 huginn *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky? 20:46 bag @roulette 20:46 huginn bag: *click* 20:47 cait nitz0: you should always do a backup 20:47 cait technically it works without a dump 20:48 cait not sure what you mean by upgrade schema? 20:48 cait hi bag :) 20:48 bag hi cait 20:48 tcohen nitz0: no worries, we are really proud of 3.20 :-D 20:48 tcohen hi bag 20:50 bag heya tcohen 20:50 bag @roulette 20:50 huginn *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! 20:50 * huginn reloads and spins the chambers. 20:50 bag ha 20:52 cait bad day at the office? 20:52 pianohacker poor huginn, no ops :) 20:52 nitz0 cait: I did a packet install in my computer. Then I import a DB dump from a 3.08v and run all commands lines to set up the 3.18v. I was asking my self if there is a way, now, not to do the same process. If there is a way to just upgrade from 3.18v to 3.20v. 20:52 cdickinson you unlucky europeans, still working this week 20:52 cait cdickinson: nope we are done 20:52 bag nah but cait - I am crazy hungry - which makes me grumpy 20:52 cait it's 22:52 here :) 20:53 cait nitz0: you just install th enew package i think :) 20:53 cdickinson 08:52 Saturday here 20:53 cait doing a backup first 20:53 cait cdickinson: we have way more of the weekend left ;) 20:53 cait so i think the answer is yes 20:53 cait tcohen: you stop me if i say nonsense, right? :) 20:54 tcohen cait? 20:55 tcohen hmpf 20:55 cait ohoh 20:56 cait tcohen: about nitz0 question - updating with packages 20:56 tcohen ah, right 20:56 tcohen nitz0: change from oldstable to stable 20:56 wahanui tcohen: that doesn't look right 20:57 tcohen in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 20:57 tcohen sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 20:57 tcohen and it will autoagically run koha-upgrade-schema for your instances 20:58 tcohen *automagically* 20:58 cait updating is cool :) 20:58 nitz0 ok, let's magically try 20:59 tcohen nitz0: one caveat (we are going to have fixed soon ;-)) but not yet 20:59 tcohen if you have non-populated instances 20:59 tcohen (like if you created an instance but never loaded a db or run the webinstaller 21:02 nitz0 Ok, no problem, I don't undertand what that means. What that limitation is. No problem. I will learn it day by day. 21:03 cait it only applies if you have created more than one instance 21:04 cait like a second library running form the same code, but haven't finished the installation 21:04 cait if you haven't done that... you probably won't have a poblem :) 21:04 nitz0 great 21:04 nitz0 I didn't 21:10 tcohen nitz0: then go for it! 21:11 tcohen apt-get upgrade for the win! 21:26 nitz0 vie sep 11 18:26:03 ART 2015 21:43 nitz0 Is there a way to know koha version using, for example, koha-shell? 21:44 cait koha shows it on the about page 21:45 cait on file level... there should be kohaversion.pl with the version 21:45 cait but i am not sure where the file is in a package installation 21:49 nitz0 Well, it's ok. I was just playing with koha-* commands. 21:50 nitz0 Anyway, Version de Koha:3.20.03.000 21:50 mtj nitz0: you can ask dpkg for a koha version 21:51 mtj $ dpkg -l koha-common 21:51 mtj ii koha-common 3.20.02 all integrated (physical) library man 21:52 mtj ..something like that? ^ 21:52 bag heya mtj 21:54 nitz0 Deseado=Desconocido/Instalar/Eliminar/Purgar/Retener 21:54 nitz0 | Estado=No/Instalado/Config-files/Desempaquetado/Medio-conf/Medio-inst/espera-disparo/pendiente-disparo 21:54 nitz0 |/ Err?=(ninguno)/Requiere-reinst (Estado,Err: mayúsc.=malo) 21:54 nitz0 ||/ Nombre Versión Arquitectura Descripción 21:54 nitz0 +++-=========================================-===================================================-============-=============================================================================== 21:54 nitz0 ii koha-common 3.20.03 all integrated (physical) library management system 21:54 nitz0 Ju 21:55 nitz0 well, thats not so clean here 21:56 nitz0 ii koha-common 3.20.03 all integrated (physical) library management system 21:56 nitz0 very easy, all up to date... 21:57 nitz0 thx mtj, cait, tcohen and pianohacker. 21:57 nitz0 see you next week. 21:57 nitz0 bye 22:11 * mtj waves to bag, cait, tcohen 22:12 cait hi mtj :) 22:12 mtj i am just getting ready to head outside for a bushwalk 22:13 mtj so, will catch y'all later 22:14 mtj have a great weekend #koha 22:16 mtj ciao cait, bag ;0) 22:20 bag enjoy the bush